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    Fatty Fatback BFL content

    I got a 4.5 BFL today and I wish I got 2. Shocking results, They fit with no problems!

    here they are mounted up to Speedway 50mm uma rims. i can get all of my gears. there is about 4mm of room between the chain and the tire when in the big rear gear and my 22t. my bb has about 3mm i can shim it over so i will be doing that to make sure i have no rub.
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    Sweet. I did ask for two. Need to check when they're due.

    I'll be looking forward to the pics - shoot the driveline too, por favor!
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    Yessssss, totally buying new tires.

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    Photos please....and what rims?
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    you can run a lot more rim than the 50mm speedway umas i am using.

    now for the side garage door shot.
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    and if you want more pics and to see if it works on a Maverick SC32 head on over.

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    Wow. I'm seeing a little muffin top action on that 50.
    I wonder about BFL's on an aluminum Fatback w/ 70mm Uma2's. Anyone have a report yet?
    I also wonder why Speedway is going w/ 90mm new rims as opposed to hundies. 90mm is cool...awesome, really. Is it a necessary move for fitting BFL's on existing aluminum FB's, or does Speedway simply see 90's as "enough?"
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    Thanks BigHit!

    One thing I have yet to see is: How tall do these tires measure?

    From what has been posted eslewhere...108mm X 2 = 216 + 559 = 775mm/30.5"?
    Salsa quotes the normal Fat Larry @ 740mm

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    Be interesting to see if they'll fit w/ the 100's... (obviously not on the Mav.)

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    I got the height over a stock 3.7 but i am at pt right now.
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    Wow, that is super-fat. I am interested in seeing the two (Larry 3.8 and Big Fat Larry) side by side, of course, mounted on rims, just for the whole circus bike effect.
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    Really hoping someone will be able to check chain stay / fork clearances on an aluminum Fatback with the BFLs on 70mm Uma rims, and eventually with the new 90mm Uma rims...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurkeVT View Post
    Wow. I'm seeing a little muffin top action on that 50.
    I wonder about BFL's on an aluminum Fatback w/ 70mm Uma2's. Anyone have a report yet?
    I also wonder why Speedway is going w/ 90mm new rims as opposed to hundies. 90mm is cool...awesome, really. Is it a necessary move for fitting BFL's on existing aluminum FB's, or does Speedway simply see 90's as "enough?"
    I was not happy with the 100mm rims out there for several reasons, one of which was the belief that they were too wide for the tires, and I didn't like the way they handled when lowering pressure. 90mm had been the goal for several years but I couldn't convince the manufacturer to try them. It's not easy for them to make a quality wide single wall rim. Finally they caved. The BFL Uma 90 combo yields a tire width of over 111mm (and it it will probably vary a little either way). This width means you would need to lose a few cogs in the rear to make work.
    With the standard Endo or Larry, the width is about 103mm, and our new cranks accomodate this width so you can run all cogs.
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    Bighit, what tubes did you use in the BFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2 View Post
    Bighit, what tubes did you use in the BFL?
    standard surly tubes. they have never failed and worth the extra weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    Thanks BigHit!

    One thing I have yet to see is: How tall do these tires measure?

    From what has been posted eslewhere...108mm X 2 = 216 + 559 = 775mm/30.5"?
    Salsa quotes the normal Fat Larry @ 740mm
    i did the "waist measurement" technique, tape measure rim edge to rim edge and they are 1/2" bigger or fatter in overall volume on a 50mm rim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork View Post
    I was not happy with the 100mm rims out there for several reasons, one of which was the belief that they were too wide for the tires, and I didn't like the way they handled when lowering pressure. 90mm had been the goal for several years but I couldn't convince the manufacturer to try them. It's not easy for them to make a quality wide single wall rim. Finally they caved. The BFL Uma 90 combo yields a tire width of over 111mm (and it it will probably vary a little either way). This width means you would need to lose a few cogs in the rear to make work.
    With the standard Endo or Larry, the width is about 103mm, and our new cranks accomodate this width so you can run all cogs.
    Thanks - appreciate the insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork View Post
    I was not happy with the 100mm rims out there for several reasons, one of which was the belief that they were too wide for the tires, and I didn't like the way they handled when lowering pressure. 90mm had been the goal for several years but I couldn't convince the manufacturer to try them. It's not easy for them to make a quality wide single wall rim. Finally they caved. The BFL Uma 90 combo yields a tire width of over 111mm (and it it will probably vary a little either way). This width means you would need to lose a few cogs in the rear to make work.
    With the standard Endo or Larry, the width is about 103mm, and our new cranks accomodate this width so you can run all cogs.
    Would'nt running a 1x9 set-up with the single chainring in the outer position win you back the 8mm you need?
    ....or would the crossing be too much to use the big sprocket maybe?

    Questions, questions, questions. Sorry.

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    I was hoping you'd say, "The BFL's won't fit in a 70mm UMA II on my ti' Fatback."

    But it sounds like my weekend plans will now include stealing copper from abandoned homes to fund a new set of BFL's.

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    mangoman, fair, just be careful, I've heard of people dying fiery deaths doing that =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoman View Post
    I was hoping you'd say, "The BFL's won't fit in a 70mm UMA II on my ti' Fatback."

    But it sounds like my weekend plans will now include stealing copper from abandoned homes to fund a new set of BFL's.
    May have to try to talk my wife into selling the house and moving to an Apt. (trailer park,etc..) to play w/ all this awesome new stuff. Seriously, saving my lunch money as we speak... lot's of peanut butter & honey in my near future.

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    Aluminum Fatback & BFL

    Inspired by Bighit's success with the BFL I ordered one and mounted on by 2011 20" aluminum Fatback with Rolling Darryls. To summarize what I found with the Rolling Darryl and BFL: it's fat!, the BFL just fits in the frame with acceptable clearance (see below), hopes of using a 100mm rim and the BFL are gone, gearing will have to be altered by going single up front and eliminating 11 tooth cog and spacing cassette outboard to gain more chain clearance.

    Measurements on my current setup:
    • Rolling Darryl and Larry @ 15 psi = 97mm; Rolling Darryl and BFL @ 15 psi = 104mm
    • 2.5mm clearance between chain and BFL casing in middle ring and largest rear cog
    • 4.5mm clearance between BFL knobs and chainstay (with chainstay wrap)
    • 6mm clearance between BFL knobs and chainstay (without chainstay wrap)
    • Front derailleur and chain rub BFL in granny gear position
    • 8mm clearance between seat stays and BFL
    • 5.6mm clearance between top of BFL and body of front derailleur (snow and sand issue?)

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    Picked up 2 BFL yesterday after work - put the front on my 100mm rim:
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    I figure if I succumb to the bfl thing I'm gonna have to get the offset Whirley cranks
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    Wadester, How much clearance between the blades on the fatback fork with the bfl and 100mm? I got the same fork and have been wondering. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescyco View Post
    Wadester, How much clearance between the blades on the fatback fork with the bfl and 100mm? I got the same fork and have been wondering. Thanks

    Right now, the BFL is 109mm wide - vs the 113-118mm listed in the FAQ. I haven't ridden it yet or done more than put 8psi, so growth is quite likely.

    The Fatback fork is 119.4mm inside, giving me about 5mm clearance on each side. If BFL grows to 118, it will be close - but 113mm would still be 3mm each side. Sticky mud would use it up fast, but that's not a problem where I usually ride.

    I'll be messing with the back later - we'll see how that goes.
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    Thanks, Wadester. It's close but good to know it'll work.

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    Looking forward to your results Wadester...

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    baby got back! sweet looking rig, have you ever ridden the beaches? sandy hook looks like it has some possibilities

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    So - I put the BFL on the rear wheel, pumped it up to 20 and left it for several hours. It measured 113mm across. I aired it down to 8psi - 109mm. Front BFL has been sitting at 8psi for 2 days - 109mm. Both on USChoppers 26x4 rims (100's).

    I even took them out for a short arroyo ride last night. Still 109mm width. I'll check again in a week or so.

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    Thanks Wadester, looks pretty tight at the chain stays too. 'Corse they'll shrink down a bit at soft sand pressures... You going for the new Mr. Whirly too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ward View Post
    Thanks Wadester, looks pretty tight at the chain stays too. 'Corse they'll shrink down a bit at soft sand pressures... You going for the new Mr. Whirly too?
    I was thinking about it - but Profile Racing is going to get my vote. Tubular steel arms, mix&match parts, stack it like you want it. A little heavier than Mr Whirly, perhaps - but close in weight and cost. And available right now, not next month. Colors, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    I was thinking about it - but Profile Racing is going to get my vote. Tubular steel arms, mix&match parts, stack it like you want it. A little heavier than Mr Whirly, perhaps - but close in weight and cost. And available right now, not next month. Colors, too!
    "stack it like you want it" seems to be the key thing now.

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    I just put on my second BFL and took it for a ride. Let's just say I won't be doing much road riding on these. Just super squishy at 10psi and too grippy. Black floyds are in order.

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    here you go, but there is more here
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    How is that saddle working for ya? Looks good on your bike.

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    Thanks for the info and pics, bighit.

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    That saddle is amazing. It works great too. I stuck my finger down there to see if it was working and got pinched. I have just about every Brooks spring saddle and this one is the best one for riding off road. The others move too much and make noise.

    Looks like I don't need a moonlander

    Next up are the Jones bars for more bar options.

    After that the mega fat treatment, steel fork and 90 mm rims for winter riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    That saddle is amazing. It works great too. I stuck my finger down there to see if it was working and got pinched. I have just about every Brooks spring saddle and this one is the best one for riding off road. The others move too much and make noise.

    Looks like I don't need a moonlander

    Next up are the Jones bars for more bar options.

    After that the mega fat treatment, steel fork and 90 mm rims for winter riding.
    Couldn't get the Brooks thing to work for me, but I definitely loves me some Jones Loop bar.

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    My shoulder is lose and pops after the dislocation. I got to keep my arms tucked into my sides more so no more super wide downhill bars. Throw in a broken elbow clicking around and I need options for hand placement.
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    I can't find the post rightaway.
    But in one of the threads about the Hopey steering damper there was someone who mentioned a 1-armed rider who used one with good results.
    May be this can also be a part of a good solution ?

    Bike looks great !
    How about some nice shots in the sun so we can see the warm TI shine ?

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    I like your peddles. What are they....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    I can't find the post rightaway.
    But in one of the threads about the Hopey steering damper there was someone who mentioned a 1-armed rider who used one with good results.
    May be this can also be a part of a good solution ?

    Bike looks great !
    How about some nice shots in the sun so we can see the warm TI shine ?
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    my new bar is here. pics tomorrow.
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    here is the latest update in my pimp my fatbike feature. Jones Loop Bar, Ergon Grips and Glitter Green rim tape. extra pics and tunes on my blog if you care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    here is the latest update in my pimp my fatbike feature. Jones Loop Bar, Ergon Grips and Glitter Green rim tape. extra pics and tunes on my blog if you care.
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    thanks, but i am itching for a paint job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    thanks, but i am itching for a paint job.
    Paint your ti?

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    Something glitter green like this.
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...ot-260463.html

    My friend who owns a shop here in NJ knows Tom from Spectrum Cycles personally and has been selling his frames for years. When I brought it up he said we could drive out his shop in PA and have an in person with him. Can't ask for more than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Something glitter green like this.
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...ot-260463.html

    My friend who owns a shop here in NJ knows Tom from Spectrum Cycles personally and has been selling his frames for years. When I brought it up he said we could drive out his shop in PA and have an in person with him. Can't ask for more than that.
    Thats a very sexy colour.

    I'd leave some bare/clear coated Ti for bragging rites.


    Makes me think of Baum. Super sexy Ti.
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    That would look cool with my fatback sticker right in the middle.

    Thanks for the pic.
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    That toxic green colour looks amazing up against bare Ti.

    Jealous.

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    Just a suggestion, and I don't know if the paint exists, how about polishing the ti to a brilliant shine, and then painting it with a see thru metallic green, or having it anodized after polishing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankyandy View Post
    Just a suggestion, and I don't know if the paint exists, how about polishing the ti to a brilliant shine, and then painting it with a see thru metallic green, or having it anodized after polishing?
    Sounds like a version of the 'flamboyant' process. I have a budget version of this on my steel fixed. The process on steel involves chroming followed by a translucent colour finish. Mine is a metallic silver coat followed by a translucent green (much cheaper). I have no idea how this would translate to Ti.

    Personally I like the idea of an inversion of the Baum I posted. Toxic green, with bare ti bands containing the decals.

    I'm sure Bighit will make something special though. Its already a sexy ride.

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    I want to knock the look down from Ti Racer to fun time fat cruiser with some Team UGV bass boat glitter green
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    hahahaha, yeah I'm sure he will, and it's definatley already a sexy ride. I'm just bored, having complications with hernia surgery, the computers the only thing keeping me occupied between hospital visits, I'm gonna be off my bikes for a while.

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    I hear that it's been a shade over a year since I really rode mine because of injuries.
    Knee surgery Oct 2010
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    Broken elbow July 2011

    I am just finishing up PT for my elbow. It's going to be lots of flat touring for me this year.
    I am done with the gnar core rock crawling for a while.
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    Thanks bight, I'm expecting a moonlander, and plan on doing a lot of beach riding this spring, one side fisherman, moony coming thru!

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    you know once i realized i was too old to fall and slow no matter what i just started having fun. i sold all the high zoot bikes and embraced the fat side. now no matter where i ride i am having fun.

    speaking of fun you know Undergroundvelo always digs deeper right. i found this on a site i couldnt even read because it was in another language, but they were speaking the universal language of fun A fat Tandem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    you know once i realized i was too old to fall and slow no matter what i just started having fun. i sold all the high zoot bikes and embraced the fat side. now no matter where i ride i am having fun.

    speaking of fun you know Undergroundvelo always digs deeper right. i found this on a site i couldnt even read because it was in another language, but they were speaking the universal language of fun A fat Tandem.
    It looks like she is not sure if she is having fun yet.

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    @Bighit :
    Can you post a link ?

    @Sryanak :
    I think this is charity ride for (mentally) disabled people held in Leuven in Belgium.
    Hence the vest, shoes and She's probably not enjoying the view in front...
    Caminoloco did some of those on the same tandem.
    Read about one HERE

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    i cant find it. i tried.
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    Brooks model?

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    I have just about every Brooks spring saddle and this one is the best one for riding off road. The others move too much and make noise.
    Which Brooks model is this?

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