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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    Well, in keeping with the under $1,000 theme of this thread.
    I got a Boris yesterday. Found it on Craigslist. Lightly used (125ish) miles with a bunch of extras for $804.00 . That's what I had in my wallet. Its a 15" so it fits my wife perfect and me good enough to ride until I get the bike I want in my size which I found is 17". But, that bike is lots more than 1k$.
    I'm VERY happy to find this bike, at this time. And saved some money
    You may well like the Boris enough to buy another for yourself. I'll be buying a 2nd X9 for myself(Tacoma and Minnesota) and an X7 for my wife in a 13". Totally pleased with the bike for single track and snow. Was having a very hard time trying to figure out if I wanted front suspension, but after having spent the time through the rock and roots, I figured there was no sense in it, especially after riding my full suspension and a new trek 29er full suspension through the same terrain.
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    Mini Trail; thanks for mentioning the used market. That stuck with me and the day before we went to town I searched Craigslist, Anchorage. The Boris I got was on the first page and as we would be I town in the morning. I contacted the seller. Its the first time in 7 years that everything fell into place. There actually were other fairly good deals on some Pugsleysand a KHS 3000 . But they were all 19" and larger frames. And I feel good about already having a fatty that my wife can comfortably ride.
    Now that I'm more used to it . The Boris doesn't look quite as Bodatious as it did. But when we both first saw it our mouths about dropped open. It looked HUGE compared to what we were used to.
    Thanks again everyone for all the helpful tips and advice.
    Now that I've had my hands on a KHS 3000 with 4.8" Snowshoes on it I have something to gauge the Boris by. So far tho even the Boris is revolutionary in comparison to all our bikes previously ridden. And as I haven't ridden in a long time I don't notice it being slow. Seems to truck right along to me. :-)

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    Well, had a Boris in a larger frame size been available around here I would have bought it. But. The ordering and waiting just is too stressful for me.
    So I got a Cogburn CB4 in Realtree Snow Camo finish. Size L/XL. It was almost double the $1K , But it is just perfect for my needs. This winter I'll find out if I need wider tires than the 4.5" wide that the CB4 can run. Atm it has the oem Surly Nate tires on it in non holed Rollin Daryl rims. Which I prefer. One less thing that can potentially go wrong. I got this bike from an lbs and they have a great service plan. I plan on putting white bits on it. Handlebars, grips, stem, seat post and considering white On One Floaters that I will stud, if I find the rubber they r made from will take the cold. The country side around here will get tracked up with snow go tracks through out the winter so there will be no end to the fat bike trails I can ride. And my goal is to have a bike that a coyote can look at but not see. At least not be spooked by.

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    Maybe we were lucky but we bought 2 brand new Mukuks for $1300 each from a local dealer that had leftover stock..

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    Hello Glen, I'm about like you but just a tad older. 61, 250 with a bad left wheel that needs either to be replaced or long term, intense PT. I'll find out in a week.
    Just got into the Fat Bike thing and loving it..hopefully I'll never ride at minus 60 but it does get cool here in Wisconsin.

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    Nick; I don't "plan" on riding in that cold a weather. But, you know what can happen to plans :-).
    Which Mukluk did u get? . I'm guessing the 3 . I wanted to try one out but the only color the shop had was plum. So I got the Cogburn instead. However, I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get a Muk3 at some point. I'de love to have a Mukluk ( Walrus Hide and Fat) that had room to spare with the 2xl Snowshoes.
    That's not a reality yet so I'm wanting to see what comes out in 2016. 1300$ is a steal of a deal on a Mukluk. Congratulations.
    I just spin along at between 40 and 60 rpm and keep the resistance on the pedals light to moderate and don't over do it. This past weeks arborist work set me back a bit with my left knee. But spinning along on my bike makes it feel a lot better than any otc pain meds does. !!

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    Thanks....yes, I thought that $1300 for a new Muk was a heck of a deal. They are both fun bikes and if I ever get mine back from my 13 year old I'm sure I'll love it even more.

    Yup, I know all about plans...looking at cold weather now..as I sit in my AC house while it is 95 outside.

    Knee is bad, MRI and maybe knee replacement..

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    Good thing for a kid to work for. Hope he doesn't loose it for u .
    I didn't believe how much a bike would help my knees. . I figured the bike would b way cheaper than doctors . And if they didn't work out I could always pedal
    them. :-) .
    I'm trying to make my parts last as long as I can. Does your wife ride with u? . That has helped me. Except now she is beginning to learn what turning 50 and getting into shape feels like. Because I've worked outdoors all my life I'm very used to the things my bod goes thru to get in shape. She is learning. :-( .

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    Yes, we often ride together. The part of Wisconsin in which we live is very hilly with loads of great sweeping turns. I also have a Salsa Vaya which I find myself on more than the Mukluk.
    Trying to keep my parts also but somedays I just want them to take out the knee, fix it and put it all back. Oh to be 30 again.
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    Did anyone try the Gravity Knockout Complete Fat Bike ?
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    Is it a good deal for the 299$ ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aly View Post
    Did anyone try the Gravity Knockout Complete Fat Bike ?
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    Is it a good deal for the 299$ ?
    That's not a fatbike per se, rather a 26+ since it only fits 3.0 tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aly View Post
    Did anyone try the Gravity Knockout Complete Fat Bike ?
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    Is it a good deal for the 299$ ?

    Yes...I did...I bought just the frame and build it up with 85mm wheel with Origin8 Captiv8or 26x3.5 tires on it (actual width is 3.8" on an 80mm wheel)

    I put a 1x10 X7/X9 drivetrain on it with Elixir9 203mm rotor up front and 140mm rotor with BB7 out back..

    My build up of one is pretty well documented on this thread and over on Rat Rod Bikes......

    I use it as my exercise bike...mine came in at 27lbs...it's an "ok" bike that I let friends cruise around on...but NOT for much more than flatland cruising and beach cruising.

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    did the captivators on the 80mm rims fit in back ok? how much clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    did the captivators on the 80mm rims fit in back ok? how much clearance?
    There was not enough clearance....I had to (spread) the chainstays with a scissor jack just to get 4mm of clearance on each side (that's with 35psi in the tires though)

    on 50mm wheels, they *might* fit w/o much trouble.

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    Thanks Shank3r
    I did read your comments on Rod Rat and was very helpful on deciding this purchase.
    I was now asking about the package that comes with the complete bike.
    It seems they are adding a 150$ worth wheels:
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    and an Alivio Front and Rear Derailleur and other low end components

    What do you think of the overall setup ?

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    Does anyone know if the Frammed Wolftrax is with the extra $$ than the Minnesota 2.0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphere View Post
    Does anyone know if the Frammed Wolftrax is with the extra $$ than the Minnesota 2.0?
    I have not ridden one myself yet, but according to the Framed website the geometry (numbers-wise) is the same as their Alaskan model which is what I have. I much prefer the fit on the Alaskan versus the Minnesota which I rode for a season before getting the Alaskan.

    You sit more upright and slightly further back on the AK than on the Minnesota. It rides more like a trail bike whereas the Minnesota rides more like a cross-country bike, if that makes any sense. If you can, go test-ride both as there is a noticeable difference in fit between the two.

    If it were me, I'd take a risk and get the WolfTrax based on the fit alone. The base model uses all the same components as the Minnesota so the extra money is really only paying for a different frame. It will also be a little lighter.

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    This is another one of my ignorance borne questions. What is a cross country bike?

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    Wheeler SAVANA - I paid $999 right on the knocker but there was a $70 delivery fee because I didn't live in Victoria. If this link doesn't work then search "Wheeler fat" in eBay cycling.

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    I used this bike to cycle the Canning Stock Route (CSR) in August and part of September 2015. 1,650km over 25 days of cycling. Only problem was with the poorly sealed pedals. Standard seat wasn't up to 25 days of outback corrugations, but that was my fault for not realizing I should have bought a proper off-road seat separately.

    Expect to pay an extra $1,000 for anything better - SAVANA is fantastic value-for-money. See my recent post(s) in this thread:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/fat...l#post12213303

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    This is another one of my ignorance borne questions. What is a cross country bike?
    In a nutshell, a cross-country style mountain bike is designed mainly to be fast and agile and a good climber with a more aggressive, forward-biased riding position. A trail bike is designed to be a little more relaxed; in both riding position and handling. Here's a good (although lengthy) explanation between the two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnz7mEE7MtQ

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    I plan on getting a Framed minnesota 1.0 soon,seems $750 is good price for me.
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    Does anyone dirt jump one of these bikes? Looks like it would fun to do

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    Great thread with lots of info. I am currently looking at the following.

    KHS 500 or 1000
    Norco Bigfoot 6.2

    That Motobecane Boris X7 is interesting. I laid the Boris over the KHS in this photo. The second photo is the Bigfoot over the KHS 500. Also circle a few differences between the Boris and the KHS. I test rode the 17" Bigfoot and loved it. Still undecided though, but leaning towards the Bigfoot.






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    got a brand new Mongoose Argus for $900 here in Philippines frame size is only small
    no regrets from my end

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    The Wheeler Savana seems to be similar to the Bikesdirect Motobecane Lurch. The u sprung version no?

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    If anyone is interested in buying a Framed Fat bike. I have a coupon code for The House – Outdoor Gear, Outerwear & Bikes - Save up to 70% The code is: FAT7304
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    I chose the single speed Raw Black Soul Stomper from Soul Beach Cruisers. It isn't your traditional fat bike. Take a BMX bike and give it growth hormones, a bad attitude and performance enhancing drugs and you get a slight idea the kind of beast you can ride. At $699 it was at a price point that I could afford but I didn't feel like, nor was I settling.

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    Hey all, I searched for a fat bike that wouldn't break the bank and after searching far and wide it seemed like the Bikes Direct, Framed Minn, and a the SE [email protected]

    Price wise, I found the SE [email protected] on Nashbar and got it for $614. If you sign up for their email list they send you pretty insane deals. Other sites sell the same bike for hundreds more.

    Bike has a 190+ spacing in the rear, which is sweet. I wasn't crazy about the triple up front, but I will just get rid if it wears out. Samox is a decent build, and way better than the Minnesota's that I demoed.

    Just thought I would add my two cents. Let me know if you have any questions as there are few reviews on the SE [email protected]

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    Sounds like you got a very good deal! What tires come on it?

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    Se [email protected] Tires

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    Sounds like you got a very good deal! What tires come on it?
    They come with a Chaoyang 4 inch. I didn't think they would be all that great. But the are honestly better than the Vee Mission tire. The tread pattern is really pretty aggressive and not terrible.

    I will probably upgrade for for winter here in NH if they really suck however.

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    Considering buying my first fat bike. Would be for winter use only. Looking at the diamondback el Oso grande and the Minnesota 2.2 I can get both for ~ 1000$ I have some spare parts lying around ( hydraulic brakes, 1x crankset, derailleur) so I'm mostly looking at the frame and wheelset. DB has thru axels and wider hub spacing, is this going to be a better option for potential future upgrades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    Sounds like you got a very good deal! What tires come on it?
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    They come with a Chaoyang 4 inch. I didn't think they would be all that great. But the are honestly better than the Vee Mission tire. The tread pattern is really pretty aggressive and not terrible.

    I will probably upgrade for for winter here in NH if they really suck however.
    I had those tires last year on my 6.3 Bigfoot. The only fat bike tire I rode last year so nothing to compare to. Initially, based on horrible reviews of Vee Missions and similar bottom of the barrel tires, I thought I would have to replace them for sure after first snow, but they surprised me. Didn't experience any major issues and rode all winter on them.

    This year I got a new bike with Floaters. They do have more grip, although we just got a dusting of snow so far so will have to wait to see what they can do, but most importantly they have nice big side lugs. My only real complaint regarding those Chaoyang tires was that they really needed one more row of lugs on the side. I thought they were a decent budget tire, although in all fairness best suited for 3 season riding. Now waiting for my order of Dillinger 4's and a bag of carbide studs.
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    Good to hear that the Chaoyang isn't a complete waste! All of these >$1000 bikes get some sort of cheaper tire.

    Anyone here ever run a larger front tire with a 4" in back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridaho View Post
    Considering buying my first fat bike. Would be for winter use only. Looking at the diamondback el Oso grande and the Minnesota 2.2 I can get both for ~ 1000$ I have some spare parts lying around ( hydraulic brakes, 1x crankset, derailleur) so I'm mostly looking at the frame and wheelset. DB has thru axels and wider hub spacing, is this going to be a better option for potential future upgrades?
    I received my Origin8 Amarok on Friday, put a few miles on it already and super happy with it. Rides a lot like some other bikes I demoed over the years, and will allow me to slowly step into something nicer in the future.

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    You may want to check if there's an LBS near you carrying the Framed Wolftrax, it's got a larger rear (197) and can take up to 5" tire. It's also got a nice hydroformed frame with some internal cable routing and starts at $1000; plus, the shop may offer you to swap the tires for something different, if interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ridaho View Post
    Considering buying my first fat bike. Would be for winter use only. Looking at the diamondback el Oso grande and the Minnesota 2.2 I can get both for ~ 1000$ I have some spare parts lying around ( hydraulic brakes, 1x crankset, derailleur) so I'm mostly looking at the frame and wheelset. DB has thru axels and wider hub spacing, is this going to be a better option for potential future upgrades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by agarner View Post
    Hey all, I searched for a fat bike that wouldn't break the bank and after searching far and wide it seemed like the Bikes Direct, Framed Minn, and a the SE [email protected]

    Price wise, I found the SE [email protected] on Nashbar and got it for $614. If you sign up for their email list they send you pretty insane deals. Other sites sell the same bike for hundreds more.

    Bike has a 190+ spacing in the rear, which is sweet. I wasn't crazy about the triple up front, but I will just get rid if it wears out. Samox is a decent build, and way better than the Minnesota's that I demoed.

    Just thought I would add my two cents. Let me know if you have any questions as there are few reviews on the SE [email protected]
    How are you liking the bike. Nashbar has it on sale again and I am seriously looking at it. Have you had a chance to test it out in any snow by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenry View Post
    How are you liking the bike. Nashbar has it on sale again and I am seriously looking at it. Have you had a chance to test it out in any snow by chance?
    I'm looking at the same bike. Just wondering how it compares to the boris x5.

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    Raleigh just released a new steel 170mm bike with 4" CY tires. It's got trail bike geometry based on the Tokul, which is a hardtail with 120/130mm travel. The bike fits Specialized Ground Control 4.6 tires too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    I'm looking at the same bike. Just wondering how it compares to the boris x5.
    It can take bigger tires than the Boris. Not sure if you are planning on snow but if so it sounds like the wider the better. I just ordered a fat bike so this is not from personal experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenry View Post
    It can take bigger tires than the Boris. Not sure if you are planning on snow but if so it sounds like the wider the better. I just ordered a fat bike so this is not from personal experience.
    Is went with the Mongoose Vinson. First fat bike, small investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    Is went with the Mongoose Vinson. First fat bike, small investment.
    Congrats! Hope you enjoy the new ride!

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    Raleigh Pardner fitted with 4.6 Specialized Ground Control tyres. Rear tyre clears everything but is close to the front mech. It probably would throw snow on it. Best go 1X or get a better front mech on it.
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    I have been reading a lot on budget fat bikes, I kind of want one to keep at my office to get around base since I generally vanpool to work and don't have a way around. I can pick up one of those Pardners for $599.99 new through December. Seems like a really good deal, I need to go ride one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithe68 View Post
    I have been reading a lot on budget fat bikes, I kind of want one to keep at my office to get around base since I generally vanpool to work and don't have a way around. I can pick up one of those Pardners for $599.99 new through December. Seems like a really good deal, I need to go ride one.
    I saw that same deal at This Bike Life. for $599 you cant go wrong. I bought the mongoose vinson for $333 shipped after tax. Not quite as nice of a build, but its half the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    I saw that same deal at This Bike Life. for $599 you cant go wrong. I bought the mongoose vinson for $333 shipped after tax. Not quite as nice of a build, but its half the price.
    That's where I saw it. I would consider something like the Vinson, or other budget minded bikes, but they only come in one size normally and I am way too tall for that. I went up to TBL Saturday but they didn't have an XL in, actually they were down to M and SM. Oh well, I will find something at some point.

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    For anyone looking for a nice, but fairly inexpensive fat bike, Surly just dropped the price of the Pugsley to $899. SS version is $799.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassa89 View Post
    For anyone looking for a nice, but fairly inexpensive fat bike, Surly just dropped the price of the Pugsley to $899. SS version is $799.
    Its a nice starter but the frame will only accept tires up to 3.8 wide on 84mm rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Its a nice starter but the frame will only accept tires up to 3.8 wide on 84mm rims.
    It is far more than a starter. For many, a 4" tired fat bike is plenty and likely a better choice than a 5" tired bike.

    It works great in most sand and snow conditions and is a better dirt trail bike than a 5" bike. The bigger tires do help in the worst conditions, but the difference is not necessary for a lot of fatty riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chader09 View Post
    It is far more than a starter. For many, a 4" tired fat bike is plenty and likely a better choice than a 5" tired bike.

    It works great in most sand and snow conditions and is a better dirt trail bike than a 5" bike. The bigger tires do help in the worst conditions, but the difference is not necessary for a lot of fatty riding.
    That's true but while 5" is not best choice for many conditions and not always preferable, I run 4.25 most of the time, a frame limit of 3.8 is quite limiting in terms of options. There are many great tires over that size that will be out of range. I think size compatibility should be one of the considerations when investing in a new bike.

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    Another thing I would add is studded tires for winter snow riding. Hitting a sun exposed icy patch of a trail is not fun and can be very dangerous. Option to run a nice studded tire should be high on the list for people that might ride on snowy trails. Are there any factory fat tire options under 4"? Excluding home made stuff? Perhaps more will be available in the future

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    I have yet to see a better deal than the SE [email protected] They have them at performance for $999, and are clearing out the 2015 at Nashbar for $800 (they are almost identical to the 2016). I bought one with their 25% off and free shipping and so paid $599 delivered. It's got a 9-spd, 190mm thru-axle symmetrical rear, tapered head tube, double butted hydroformed frame, 100mm rims and BB. It's a good bike as is and a great platform for upgrading.

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    I just bought a Surly Ice Cream Truck Ops for $1199 at my LBS. Surly is apparently reducing inventory and have some select fat bikes on sale while their inventory last.

    You can now, put the Pugsley SS -$799 (only in a few sizes), Pugsley -$899 and Pugsley Ops -$999 into your Fat bikes under $1000 list; until Surly runs out of their inventory or they go off sale. Check your LBS.

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    Don't know if it's a Christmas thing, or just over the weekend, but if you are near a Scheels sporting goods store, they had this guy for something like $800-900 (don't remember exactly and didn't want my wife to think I was for looking at another bike). Decent 10-speed build with 4.7" tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    I just bought a Surly Ice Cream Truck Ops for $1199 at my LBS. Surly is apparently reducing inventory and have some select fat bikes on sale while their inventory last.
    Congrats! I just did the same thing!
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    Fatbikes under $1000 bucks

    Just picked up a new Nashbar fat bike. With sale and coupon codes, got it for $720. Great bike. Aluminum frame, X5 components, 2x 10 setup, tapered head tube, 4" tires. It does have a 170mm rear axle and only one set of water bottle braze on's but oh well.


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    since surly pugs are so tough to find in my area for the discounted price, i am looking at a origin8 amarok xlt. There is only one person on this site that had one, and i can find no other information. any other opinions about it?


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    What is a good bike under $1000 that I can easily upgrade as I want. A couple musts are Rockshox capable, front and back through maxles and I want a cross country type frame (more MT Bike) not Pugsley type. Prefer a 1x, I don't want a front derailer but not an absolute.

    Again - looking for a good platform for under $1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nit4FUN View Post
    What is a good bike under $1000 that I can easily upgrade as I want. A couple musts are Rockshox capable, front and back through maxles and I want a cross country type frame (more MT Bike) not Pugsley type. Prefer a 1x, I don't want a front derailer but not an absolute.

    Again - looking for a good platform for under $1000

    Thanks
    You're not going to have many options meeting all those criteria for under $1k, but I'm sure someone else will chime in (I assume you read the thread and it wasn't mentioned?). I believe there are one or two models of Motobecane at $1100 with TAs and tapered headtube for shock, but you'd need to convert to 1x. I believe the Framed wolftrax has a $1000 or $1100 model with tapered headtube, 1x, and front TA, but not rear.

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    dayooper - thanks for the reply. I know I might be asking a lot. I am just diving in and starting to learn. I figured I would shoot for the stars and make adjustments if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayooper View Post
    I believe the Framed wolftrax has a $1000 or $1100 model with tapered headtube, 1x, and front TA, but not rear.
    The Framed MN 2.2 (999.95) and 3.0 like the Wolf trax will have near the same pricepoint, but no rear thru axle and can't be converted to one either. One thing the Wolftrax has is internal cable routing and 3 mounting points on the front fork for a cage. Spec level should be the same for all 3 as well. There is a deal still going at the House for 100 off. The wheels are supposed to be tubeless ready, but may require the cut tube method.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    The Framed MN 2.2 (999.95) and 3.0 like the Wolf trax will have near the same pricepoint, but no rear thru axle and can't be converted to one either. One thing the Wolftrax has is internal cable routing and 3 mounting points on the front fork for a cage. Spec level should be the same for all 3 as well. There is a deal still going at the House for 100 off. The wheels are supposed to be tubeless ready, but may require the cut tube method.

    I really like the Framed bikes. I was just on the House site. They don't carry any Wolftrax, which is the one I am leaning towards. I am just frustrated that I live in a huge bicycle community (Madison WI) and no one seems to carry Framed bikes within an hours drive.

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    There's only maybe 20 dealers nationwide. I was at the House yesterday and they have the Wolftrax there, but perhaps since it is the newest model it's not on their site. I'll be going back today and will ask them about it. Perhaps you can call them and see if you can purchase from them over the phone. It is a 1-800 number and is free. You can find the specs on the Framed site.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Thank you!! I will do that!

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    Agreed. I preferred the Wolftrax and AK for geo (rode both) over the 2.2, but Wolftrax takes a larger tire in the rear which was key for me. Ultimately, I went in a different direction, but really liked the Framed bikes too.

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    The 3.0 xwt is a 4.7 tire, 190mm hub width. 4in for me will be plenty big, the 190 just looked too big and I didn't like how the chainstays looked to accommodate it, personal opinion. The 2.2 does have a very short eff top tube, but I put a 750 bar on it to compensate. I figure I'll ride it until the warranty is up and decide if I want to upgrade to something else. The other thing I thought may happen is people selling used rear 170 hub wheels so maybe I'll get a chance for a nicer wheel at some point next season. First fatty, 10spd, and tapered head tube for me so I tried to make the best decision I could for my pricepoint.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    That's right, the 3.0 did have the bigger capacity. Bottom line is Framed has a pretty nice spread of models for a variety of preferences, and all are a good price.

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    ^Agreed.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayooper View Post
    Agreed. I preferred the Wolftrax and AK for geo (rode both) over the 2.2, but Wolftrax takes a larger tire in the rear which was key for me. Ultimately, I went in a different direction, but really liked the Framed bikes too.

    What did you end up getting?

    Tomorrow I am going to go test ride a Pugs and an Ice Cream Truck. The ICT is out of my price range. Wish the OPs was still in stock.

    I just need to get on a Framed bike to see what I think. I have to drive an hour or more to make that happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nit4FUN View Post
    What did you end up getting?

    Tomorrow I am going to go test ride a Pugs and an Ice Cream Truck. The ICT is out of my price range. Wish the OPs was still in stock.

    I just need to get on a Framed bike to see what I think. I have to drive an hour or more to make that happen
    Well, I ended up bumping my budget a bit as I got into it ... ended up going with the Motobecane Sturgis Bullet, as it best met my criteria. I was really close to the Wolftrax, but ended up with carbon fork (sold bluto, bought carbon fork), 2x for winter riding, along with the TR Mulefut rims (that was big), TAs and crank upgrade for a total of $1350 delivered.

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    i will get a motobecaine fb4 delivered tomorrow from bike island for $650. sram x5 derailleur/shifters, sram db1 hydraulic brakes, 6061 frame. having to go up to $1500 to find similarly fitted bikes (i think). am i missing something or was this a great deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabbindan View Post
    i will get a motobecaine fb4 delivered tomorrow from bike island for $650. sram x5 derailleur/shifters, sram db1 hydraulic brakes, 6061 frame. having to go up to $1500 to find similarly fitted bikes (i think). am i missing something or was this a great deal?
    Bike Island bikes are seconds/thirds?? etc? Basically a scratch & dent or something worse wrong with the bike. Look carefully at the description to see what is actually wrong with the bike.

    The bike is also 135mm offset hubs (like the pugsley) so thats a matter more of preference, but this bike and a $1500 bike (pugsley, Charge, spec, trek, etc) are definitely different levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabbindan View Post
    i will get a motobecaine fb4 delivered tomorrow from bike island for $650. sram x5 derailleur/shifters, sram db1 hydraulic brakes, 6061 frame. having to go up to $1500 to find similarly fitted bikes (i think). am i missing something or was this a great deal?
    I'll agree with the poster above that you'd want to double check what's dinged up (edit: you probably already have, since it's being delivered today!), but my understanding is the BI bike issues are only cosmetic. I'll disagree that the other bikes mentioned are automatically at "different levels", as that's dependent on how they're spec'd and not necessarily the case (aside from brand name). The moto frames are quality, and the components are the components (which you can compare). That sounds like a quality ride for a great price, assuming the flaws aren't anything significant. I'd guess there's probably a thread here discussing that model specifically.

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    I've bought multiple bikes off bikeisland, and they've all been good. They definitely have stuff wrong with them though, but that's usually documented in the description. Normally scrapes from shipping, but if you don't put at least a couple scrapes on your bike, you're not riding properly. Almost all the bikes I've bought were missing forks. That was fine with me because the OEM speced suntour XCT forks are junk anyway. They still have the full "warranty", which boils down to bikeisland will normally work with you if something is messed up that shouldn't be messed up. This is usually by giving you back some money or sending replacement parts out. labor is still on you though.

    The bikeisland stuff has the same issues that bikesdirect bikes have. The derailure and shifter are nice, but other areas are skimped on. Cheap no name stems, handlebars, and seatposts. Strong, but heavy. Low end ball and cone hubs with cheap straight gauge spokes. They're assembled well, and I beat the snot out of some WTB rims on formula hubs for over 2 years, but they're heavy. Comparable to deore 525 or SRAM 306 hubs, just without the ability to easily get replacement freehubs.
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    The bikeisland stuff has the same issues that bikesdirect bikes have. The derailure and shifter are nice, but other areas are skimped on. Cheap no name stems, handlebars, and seatposts. Strong, but heavy. Low end ball and cone hubs with cheap straight gauge spokes. They're assembled well, and I beat the snot out of some WTB rims on formula hubs for over 2 years, but they're heavy. Comparable to deore 525 or SRAM 306 hubs, just without the ability to easily get replacement freehubs.[/QUOTE]

    True on the lower end models, as is also the case for most sub-$1500-2000 bikes sold locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nit4FUN View Post
    I really like the Framed bikes. I was just on the House site. They don't carry any Wolftrax, which is the one I am leaning towards. I am just frustrated that I live in a huge bicycle community (Madison WI) and no one seems to carry Framed bikes within an hours drive.
    The Wolftrax models are designed to be sold in local bike shops who are Framed Dealers - something to set apart from the Framed Minnesota models sold online I believe. Hope that helps.

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    ^ I was just writing that response as you posted it. That's what I learned from the House guys yesterday. I didn't post last night because I was out in the snow. The House guys said you could call them and talk to them about it. They made it sound like you could purchase from them and have it shipped to you Nit4FUN
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    The problem with Diadora and many around 650$ is about 36 teeth in the front plus the extra weight it is simply not designed to go uphill.
    Put on better wheels
    Put on better tires
    the transmission still creates problems in my opinion.
    The Norco Bigfoot 6.3 is about 1060$canadian with decent specs to avoid pushing it too often.
    You are welcome to correct me if i am wrong, i am a newbie

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33red View Post
    The problem with Diadora and many around 650$ is about 36 teeth in the front plus the extra weight it is simply not designed to go uphill.
    Put on better wheels
    Put on better tires
    the transmission still creates problems in my opinion.
    The Norco Bigfoot 6.3 is about 1060$canadian with decent specs to avoid pushing it too often.
    You are welcome to correct me if i am wrong, i am a newbie
    Diadora Artico is 2x9 (or even 2x8, can't remember anymore) drivetrain so granny gear would be anywhere from 22-26? I've seen one in person and yes it was quite heavy, I would guesstimate around 38lbs, just shy of 40. Then again, my own Fatty is at least 36lbs , but I don't really care...

    I second the 6.3, had a 2015 as my first fat bike. Great bike to start on especially if you're outside of US and BD, Framed and Mongoose (Vinson) bikes are not available.
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    Just got my wife a SE [email protected] from Nashbar for $640 delivered. Anything I need to know about the wheels? Can't find much on them. Brands of rims and hubs? Easy to set up tubeless?

    If the bike would have had a 15mm TA it would have been about perfect. I figure I can spend another $300 and put on a XT 1x11 drivetrain and if the brakes or tires suck drop another $100 and have a pretty sweet bike for about $1000

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    My guess is they are either Weinmann or similar, which pretty much mean Split tube for tubeless and also using some form of Sill foam. If those are Vee Mission tires, plan on replacing those and they aren't very good. Prices are from $60~$70 to $150ish (more for studded) per tire.

    If brakes suck you could do BB7's if you want mech or go with Shimano XT.

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    I have read they don't ship with the Mission anymore. Why don't the Weinmann work with tape for tubeless? They also seem to be an interesting width at 93mm.

    Yeah for brakes I will go with m785. Can get a set for about $150

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourrealdad View Post
    I have read they don't ship with the Mission anymore. Why don't the Weinmann work with tape for tubeless? They also seem to be an interesting width at 93mm.

    Yeah for brakes I will go with m785. Can get a set for about $150
    There is a whole big thread about Weinmann HL-80 tubeless woes. The bottom line, it's spit tube and foam has been the only semi-reliable method. It's possible that they aren't Weinmann but since much hasn't been said/found about them, they most likely aren't tubeless rims (UST, etc)

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    Went a different direction. Picked up a Surly Wednesday. Having the 2x switched out for a 1x. Pick up this week!! Super excited!!

    I liked what I read about the Framed bikes. Wish I could of test rid a Wolftrax. But the nearest dealer is 2 hours away. I picked the Wednesday over the Pugsley b/c it is more upgradeable. Tapered head tube and also the Wednesday felt just like riding my Trek 830. That is what I wanted. More than I wanted to spend, but I think I will be happy in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nit4FUN View Post
    Went a different direction. Picked up a Surly Wednesday. Having the 2x switched out for a 1x. Pick up this week!! .
    Please let us know the weight

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    Please let us know the weight
    Lol! You got me there, it's a fattie. Hoping to lose a bit from losing the 2x. Eventually I'll pick up some lighter wheels. But still think it's going to be around 36 or more...I was told I can go tubeless also, so that might help a bit too. Otherwise don't talk about her weight in front of her, she gets self conscious

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    As long as you're super excited with the Wednesday there's no need to lament the possibility of the Wolftrax. If the 3 shops that I called last Sunday had been open it's very possible that I would be riding a Pugsley instead of the MN 2.2. That said I'm happy with my purchase. The weight I saved with the aluminum frame is a trade-off for me, since a steel frame would dampen more of the trail/road vibrations. So thankfully I have big tires. Also, you're not likely to save much weight with the loss of a chain ring and shifter and you're right about it being a fat-tire from Surly and not a weight weenie carbon build. There's a guy at the end of my block who has an ICT, the weight doesn't seem to bother him at all. Get out there and ride to put a smile on your face, that's all that matters.

    On a side note, those guys at Surly sure do like the Addams family kids.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    :-) .
    Your last sentence is quotably appripo . What size tires will the Wednesday take ? Also, What is all the fuss about going tubeless????
    The hell people seem to go thru , It doesn't seem to be worth all the fuss.
    Unless everyone on here makes a living winning bike races. It seems to be some form of ocd. I never even heard of tubeless bike tires until I joined here. If I had an ICT. I would be riding the thing everyday !

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    ^ Boo
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    I picked up a origin 8 Amarok XLT today at the Westminster Md swap meet for $650 new with warranty from one of my LBS. Took it in the woods on some singletrack and had a good time with it. The price was right and could not resist. If it turns out I like the bike I will do some upgrades to the drive train and other components. Just looked outside and lowe and behold it is snowing in Maryland and I just got a fat bike! Am off tomorrow and will go play! I am Excited!

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    Bill; that looks like a very good deal . The only thing I can see that I would change right off in the chain ring. The specs say it.is a 32 tooth. Which for.Me is fine for a 2x set up. But on a 1x I would want a 22~26 t and maybe a 40~44 in the rear.
    It looks like Bud&Lou will fit right on so your float will b good .
    Good deal !!

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    Nice bike. I also prefer the 24 or 26T chainring for 1x fatbike with snow duty in mind, but I don't know if it would fit with those 4.9" tires. If you try to use the inner chainring position (assuming the crankset has the 64 BCD holes drilled), almost guaranteed to rub. Spec's say it's got a single 33T ring, which should match up with a 104BCD crankset. Time to grab a 30T narrow wide.
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    I don't think it will work with the 4.9" tires. It is real tight now. am toying with trying to switch it over to 1x10 or 11. I definitely ran out of gear on a few climbs. Here is a question being new to the fat world. are the components the same on the fat bike as a mountain bike. I know the bb and cranks are not the same but i would believe the rest are the same.Seeing on ebay x9 groups for $400-500 new. She has a 120mm crank so need to see what is out there. for now am gonna run it. Took it out in the snow today and what a blast! I am now in a sling! found I must be a little more careful in tight spaces. Was on a nice decent that I rid regularly on my flash. Found that the fatty was a bit tighter and caught a pedal on a small tree.( That's why they call em fat I guess) Went flying and landed on my shoulder. Bike flew over me and landed in front. Picked myself up ,put the bike back together and rode 2 more hours. Tore some ligaments and stretches some tendons. The bike seems to have survived ok though.

    What fun though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishboy316 View Post
    ...are the components the same on the fat bike as a mountain bike. I know the bb and cranks are not the same but i would believe the rest are the same.
    For the most part, yes. fork/frame, bottom bracket, axles lengths, and obviously the tires/rims. Everything else is pretty much standard stuff. However, I wouldn't buy a "groupset" for this. If you want to go 10-speed, I'd stick with an x7 or x9 rear derailure, shifter, chain, and raceface NW 30T chainring. Throw in a sunrace 11-42 10-speed cassette, and you're good. Out the door cost should be less than $250-300.

    If you haven't checked yet, make sure the crankset uses the 110mm 4-bolt pattern. If it uses a 5 bolt or the spider thing, more options might be available.
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    Picked up a Charge Cooker Maxi 1 today off eBay for 500 bucks, should be here in about a week. I'll be sure to post up when I get it!

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    Here goes, trying to post pics of my fatty. Went to sports med at the hospital and all will be fine. Hand and shoulder are sprained. Will take about 3-6 weeks for recovery. I say 3!

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    that's are big tires. I sorta have tire envy.
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    They are pretty huge! Almost rediculous! The response from the neighbors is "What the hell is that!!!". I think I love the darn thing. I have a question though. Looking at wide range cassettes and came across this thing. It is a 9spd that has a 42t added to it. What do you know about it. I have been looking at some x9 componets and saw this. And what about the sunrace cassettes anyone have one? Are they worth a darn? Feel like I am going to be riding this bike for a while so I need to add a gear for climbing. Guess I need to research what i can do to make this thing mine. any advuce would be appreaciated.

    Dave that's a good deal on the cooker. Good luck with it.
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    My Cooker came in on Saturday, and I was able to get it built up that night. Haven't had a chance to get out and rip around on it yet though. Should be able to Wednesday for a bit in the morning.

    Based on the condition (eBay find) I am beyond happy with the pricing, I think I came out pretty well on this one. It was relisted a few times, and has a replacement fork on it. Seller stated it was a floor model and the fork was damaged.

    Everything else is pretty much MINT.

    $500 was a steal.

    36.6 lbs as pictured.

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    Just resurrected a old forum membership I had forgotten about, to join an active fat bike community with my 6-week old Voodoo Wazoo. At 395 new, I think it qualifies for less than $1000.

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    Any good deals out there currently on frames only? Looking to slowly build my first fat bike on a budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averbuks View Post
    Any good deals out there currently on frames only? Looking to slowly build my first fat bike on a budget.

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    Check the Great Deal thread:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/fat...-948598-4.html

    I posted earlier about 9Zero7 had frame and forks for $450 USD in purple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averbuks View Post
    Any good deals out there currently on frames only? Looking to slowly build my first fat bike on a budget.

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    I think the On One's fatty and fatty trails are on sale right now too. Hard to beat the 907 deal though if that's what you want. Otherwise, take a look at your CL offerings. I've seen a number of options posted since it's the end of the fat season for some.

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    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    My re commendation , for what it's worth. . Get a frame and fork that is at least big enough to fit Bud+Lou s . If your on a budget atm you can go with a basic wheel set to save $$$ .
    But if later on you find you REALLY WANT to run 4.8" tires, but your frame will only take 4.3" . Well, you get the idea.

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    That 9zero7 frame and fork are a very good deal imho.

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    The Framed Alaskan is $500 from The House, and will take 4.8" tires (upsized for 2016 model), but I think that was without fork. The Motobecane sturgis, which is a few oz lighter and will also take 5" tires is $700 with Bluto from Bikes Direct, if I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayooper View Post
    The Framed Alaskan is $500 from The House, and will take 4.8" tires (upsized for 2016 model), but I think that was without fork. The Motobecane sturgis, which is a few oz lighter and will also take 5" tires is $700 with Bluto from Bikes Direct, if I recall.
    That's for the alloy version.

    BTW Averbucks, what's the budget?
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    That's for the alloy version.

    BTW Averbucks, what's the budget?
    Im looking for a thru axle frame in alloy under $700

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    I just ordered the Charge Cooker Maxi 2 Fat Bike for 699 from price point... I am pretty happy as it seems like a nice bike and a good deal.
    Got the L at 6'1'', hope it is the right size...

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    [email protected],

    Don't worry, at 6'1" that Cooker Maxi 2 will fit you perfect. You may end up getting riser bars, but that is standard procedure for any bike, that you'll have to make some adjustments.

    Don't be discourage if you think the bike is heavy. I have a Surly Wednesday and it is about the same weight, that's just the nature of steel fat bikes. They make up for the weight with how much fun they are to ride.

    You got the best $700 bike you will ever own.

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    Thanks Sandman!
    I am not concerned about the weight at all. I ride a steel road bike with fenders and a steel 650B hardtail. The way I see it, the heavier the bike, the more exercise I get.

    Why do you recommend riser bars? Thanks

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    [email protected],

    I only recommend risers if you need them. I like to have make handlebars about the same height as my saddle. I am about 6'2"ish. So, it seems like every bike I buy, in order to get my handlebars to the height I like, I end up using riser bars even with using a lot of steertube spacers.

    But everyone is different. At 6'1" this bike might fit you perfectly with the standard height handlebars.

    Note, even though I like my handlebars about the same height as the top of my saddle, I usually end up putting the handlebars slightly lower.

    I use to ride lower handlebar height and longer stem, and then I though that flying over the handlebars all the time was just part of the sport.

    To stop from flying over the handlebars a person could: A.) become a more skilled rider, or B.) Shorten the stem, raise the handle bars, and/or get a setback seat post.

    I guess I have choosen the easy way out by doing option "B".

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    To OP... Don't discount the K2 sideshow. Hydraulic brakes, SRAM x5/x7. Little heavy but nice ride. On sale for $799. My $.02.

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    Keep your eyes on your local craigslist.

    I paid $760 last night for a new Surly Pugsley at a local bike shop who was looking to make some room by quickly moving some inventory.

    https://lancaster.craigslist.org/bik/5604404129.html

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    What ever you guys do don't get the walamart one. Its no good, I owned one for a couple of weeks.

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    I want a fat bike now lol the problem is I just bought a new bike so I wouldn't be buying right now... But I thought it never hurt to ask what is a good fatbike? I was look at the Charge Cooker Maxi but idk if it's good. Again not buying soon just wanted to ask.


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    Good fatbike =
    BUCKSAW CARBON X01 | Bikes | Salsa Cycles

    Good fatbike for under $1k,
    Charge cooker,
    bikesdirect
    Minnessota
    mongoose off Nashbar
    Plenthora of fatbikesl isted throughout this thread.

    There will always be sacrifices at the sub $1k pricepont. What are you most interested in keeping, and what do you not care about?
    "a hundred travel books isn't worth one real trip"

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    Good fatbike =
    BUCKSAW CARBON X01 | Bikes | Salsa Cycles

    Good fatbike for under $1k,
    Charge cooker,
    bikesdirect
    Minnessota
    mongoose off Nashbar
    Plenthora of fatbikesl isted throughout this thread.

    There will always be sacrifices at the sub $1k pricepont. What are you most interested in keeping, and what do you not care about?
    To be honest I don't know I'm new to MTB and know nothing about fat bikes! What would you recommend?


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    How much do you want to spend? Good bikes can be had down in the $400-500 range, and better bikes can be had for $1k.

    What do you plan on riding? Beach, gravel hills, rocky and rooty trails, winter fatbiking, 1,000 mile bikepacking trip?
    "a hundred travel books isn't worth one real trip"

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    How much do you want to spend? Good bikes can be had down in the $400-500 range, and better bikes can be had for $1k.

    What do you plan on riding? Beach, gravel hills, rocky and rooty trails, winter fatbiking, 1,000 mile bikepacking trip?
    The cheaper the better. Mostly just some trails and some winter riding and a few hills but I just want to ride it and have fun.


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    Mongoose Argus when nashbar does a 20% off. They do them randomly, so keep checking back daily. It's not an amazing bike, but it's a good bike with reliable build for a really low price. It also comes with the kenda juggernaut tires, which is a common upgrade a lot of people do to the other cheap fatbikes. One less upgrade, so the final cost is even less.

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    This is my first post, so please excuse my noobish question. I'm going to be buying a Fat Tire bike in the next week or two and I had been eyeing the Boris X9 for $799. That Argus looks like it's on par or maybe even better than the X9. Especially at the $529 price point. Which bike would you recommend?

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    The boris x9 is beget, but for the price, it should be. More on line with the boris x5. Good, but not great.
    "a hundred travel books isn't worth one real trip"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bflaker View Post
    That Argus looks like it's on par or maybe even better than the X9. Especially at the $529 price point.


    Today is the Nashbar discount day, so the Argus is $473.99 shipped (discount shows up in cart).
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    Quote Originally Posted by vid1900 View Post
    Today is the Nashbar discount day, so the Argus is $473.99 shipped (discount shows up in cart).
    Buy it, buy it now.
    "a hundred travel books isn't worth one real trip"

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    It's coming up as $488.98 shipped for me. I'm on the East Coast. I'm really torn now. Pay almost double for the X9, or buy the Mongoose. Decisions.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bflaker View Post
    It's coming up as $488.98 shipped for me. I'm on the East Coast. I'm really torn now. Pay almost double for the X9, or buy the Mongoose. Decisions.....
    Buy 2 of the Mongi

    One for you, and one for your buddies who will no doubt want to ride it as soon as they see it.

    I might order that Argus tonight, just as a spare bike.

    Specs/price can't be beat for that sale.

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    The Boris X5 ,is a good first fatbike. Much better than all the Mongeese I've seen. My wife has been riding her's for a year now and she still really likes it. No, It's not a 1,300$ or more bike. But. I can't see the advantage of spending more for a first fatty unless your already a real avid cyclist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    Check the Great Deal thread:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/fat...-948598-4.html

    I posted earlier about 9Zero7 had frame and forks for $450 USD in purple.

    Pro Deal Purple Frameset Special (Color-Matched Fork Included) - Fatbikes
    For a build. This is a very good deal imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    The Boris X5 ,is a good first fatbike. Much better than all the Mongeese I've seen.
    For clarification, the Mongoose Argus is in no way related to the wally world fatbikes. It's closer to the motobecane boris x7 or the minnesotta 2.0 fatbike. It actually is a pretty good fatbike for the money.
    "a hundred travel books isn't worth one real trip"

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    I went ahead and ordered the Argus. I'll post pics in the pic thread once it gets here.

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    Ok, good to know. !!

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    Do you know how much it would be to ship the Nashbar Argus to Canada (Saskatchewan)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallzy4Life View Post
    Do you know how much it would be to ship the Nashbar Argus to Canada (Saskatchewan)?

    Just add it to your cart, then in the address section you choose US or Canada.

    All other countries have a drop down menu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vid1900 View Post
    Just add it to your cart, then in the address section you choose US or Canada.

    All other countries have a drop down menu.
    I did that and unfortunately it won't ship to Canada... So I guess no Argus for me :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallzy4Life View Post
    I did that and unfortunately it won't ship to Canada... So I guess no Argus for me :/
    Do you have the Performance Cycle chain of stores in Canada?

    Nashbar is part of that company, so maybe you have to go directly to the store?


    (or just go totally old school and call them on the phone. They are super nice anytime I've called).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vid1900 View Post
    Do you have the Performance Cycle chain of stores in Canada?

    Nashbar is part of that company, so maybe you have to go directly to the store?


    (or just go totally old school and call them on the phone. They are super nice anytime I've called).
    After a quick Google search I couldn't find any.... But I will give them a call and see what turns up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bflaker View Post
    I went ahead and ordered the Argus. I'll post pics in the pic thread once it gets here.
    I ordered an Argus as a secondary bike, too.

    For $473 it's a bargain.

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    Today is 25% off Nashbar day, so the Argus is only $449.99 shipped!

    (if you ordered last week, call Nashbar customer service at 1-877-688-8600 Monday - Friday, 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. ET, and they will credit you the difference.)

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    Yea, I saw that. Even better! They still haven't shipped it out though. Been 3 business days now.

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    Got the partial refund and the bike showed up today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grubetown View Post

    ^^^This, mine is on the way. Easily the best bang for the buck out there. All it needs is brakes and a few small things

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    How often does Nashbar offer discount days? I am interested in getting one of the Mongooses as my first fat bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afteamroper View Post
    How often does Nashbar offer discount days? I am interested in getting one of the Mongooses as my first fat bike.
    Seems like at least once or twice per month. Sign up for their mailing list to get the updates quickly. Be warned, they send out mailings frequently, but that is the best way to see the 20%+ sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chader09 View Post
    Seems like at least once or twice per month. Sign up for their mailing list to get the updates quickly. Be warned, they send out mailings frequently, but that is the best way to see the 20%+ sales.
    Copy thanks

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    25% day at Nashbar, through tomorrow (the 24th). Looks like I'm upgrading my Malus to an Argus.

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    Mongoose Argus?

    Hello all, new member here with my first mountain bike/fat bike. I picked up a Mongoose Argus on amazon for $471 last week and was wondering if it's a decent bike. I called up a friend of mine who is a roadie to check it out and he wasn't impressed with it. I think that may have something to do with it being a mongoose because he said I should know better than to buy a bike from wally world. I though it had decent components on it for the price but I don't really know about these things. It is the 2015 model with the deore components and tektro hydraulic brakes. Dig i get hosed or is this a decent bike for the price?
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    Jd10ac,

    That is a great bike to start mountain biking on. Tekro Brakes will stop you just fine, and if your Deore derailleur is tuned it will shift as good as any shifters on the market. If it's not shifting smoothly, just take it to your local bike shop and have them tune the gears. You usually have to have this done twice near the beginning of owning a bike. Once to set the bike up, and then later the cables start to stretch and you need to have it done again.

    You may need to make some changes on your bike just for the right fit, like swapping out the stem for a shorter or longer one. And I would recommend getting a good pressure guage to measure your air pressure. You want more air pressure if you are riding on the road/urban (maybe 15 PSI), than in the woods which might be half that pressure. You can get a great tire pressure guage, Meiser ACCUGAGE for around $13 on amazon. If you have presta valves, they make a great low pressure gauge for fat bikes which goes up to 15PSI.

    You should have a blast on this bike, I think you did well. Just remember it will take some experiment with air pressure, you may have to have the gears and brakes tuned by a local mechanic at a bike shop near by, and you may need to get a new stem in order to get the bike to fit you perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    Jd10ac,

    That is a great bike to start mountain biking on. Tekro Brakes will stop you just fine, and if your Deore derailleur is tuned it will shift as good as any shifters on the market. If it's not shifting smoothly, just take it to your local bike shop and have them tune the gears. You usually have to have this done twice near the beginning of owning a bike. Once to set the bike up, and then later the cables start to stretch and you need to have it done again.

    You may need to make some changes on your bike just for the right fit, like swapping out the stem for a shorter or longer one. And I would recommend getting a good pressure guage to measure your air pressure. You want more air pressure if you are riding on the road/urban (maybe 15 PSI), than in the woods which might be half that pressure. You can get a great tire pressure guage, Meiser ACCUGAGE for around $13 on amazon. If you have presta valves, they make a great low pressure gauge for fat bikes which goes up to 15PSI.

    You should have a blast on this bike, I think you did well. Just remember it will take some experiment with air pressure, you may have to have the gears and brakes tuned by a local mechanic at a bike shop near by, and you may need to get a new stem in order to get the bike to fit you perfectly.
    Thanks for they reply Sandman, I am pretty new to this and am just looking to get out of the house and get a little healthier. I figured being a big guy 6ft 250lbs the fat bike would hold up to my weight better than a regular bike, plus I got to be honest I just think they look super cool. I thought the Deore stuff was decent, I know my buddy can be a little pompous if it isn't the best most high end stuff out there and I just can't afford that. My friend used to work for a bike shop so he helped me assemble it and get it fit fairly close, I'm going to ride it a little and take it to the LBS to have them go through it after it has a few miles on it and settles in.

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    Jd10ac,

    Your friend, who is a roadie, probably doesn't understand that Fat bikes are just pure fun. People who don't own a Fat Bike see them as heavy and slow, but when you ride them they are just so much fun.

    I have 2 fat bikes, Surly Wednesdays, one for me and one I loan out to friends. On Thursday I took a buddy of mine out on the Fat Bikes just cruising downtown Tampa. He is not a real biker, but he loved riding around on the Fat Bike. Now, he wants me to take him out to the woods.

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    Hello MTBR world!

    I am itching to get my feet wet into fat biking.

    I live on Long Island and ride primarily single track. My current bike is a Trek 8000 series from 2009. It's an outdated 26" tire hardtail which needs some major servicing (rear brake is seized and needs to be rebuilt/replaced) needs new tires, cassette, chain, and a major tune up.

    It's treated me well over the past 6 seasons, but I want to try something new.

    My LBS has great end of season deals on 2016 Specialized Fatboys (20-25% off MSRP) but with tax I would still need to spend ~$1600-1700 on this bike.

    I have recently started doing research on the Mongoose Argus. Finding it on Nashbar for ~$500 shipped to my door......the deal is tempting.

    My question boils down to, is the Fatboy worth the extra $1000 long term? I plan on riding this thing for many years to come. I know the Spec has better components, is ~5lbs lighter, and has wider tires and wider dropout.

    I do plan on riding on snow, here on Long Island sometimes it snows and doesn't melt for 2-3 months at a time.

    I also plan on riding on sand, we are on a huge island with hundreds of miles of public beach.

    Will 4.6" vs 4.0" tires make a significant difference?

    What would you do given the information provided.

    I can afford either bike, the question is, is the Fatboy worth the extra $$?

    If storage wasn't an issue (I live in 1 bedroom apt) than I would buy the Argus and then the Fatboy once I fall in love with fat biking, keep the Argus as backup/friend loaner. But don't have the space for that.

    Thanks in advance for feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
    Will 4.6" vs 4.0" tires make a significant difference?
    A Juggernaut 4.5 Pro is usefully better on beach sand than the 4.0 Sport on the front of my Argus Sport. Better traction, more resilient and less bogging down.

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    Ok, I need a fatbike (with front suspension)

    • Framed Minnesota?
    • Framed Alaskan?
    • Motobecane Lurch?
    • Motobecane Boris
    • or I can get a Reid Hercules new at work for about $650, but then I would need to invest in a fork. Also, the tire nubs look shallow.




    Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    Ok, I need a fatbike (with front suspension)
    • Framed Minnesota?
    • Framed Alaskan?
    • Motobecane Lurch?
    • Motobecane Boris
    • or I can get a Reid Hercules new at work for about $650, but then I would need to invest in a fork. Also, the tire nubs look shallow.




    Any suggestions?
    Any of those bikes with Bluto forks are probably over the $1000 limit of this thread.

    But all would be decent choices.

    Right now, I believe the closest aluminum fatbike to $1000 with Bluto forks, hydraulic Brakes, thru-axles and 4.5" tires is the Mongoose Argus Expert at $1199 shipped - from Nashbar.

    It goes on sale about every other week, only buy it during the 25% off Nashbar days.

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    Just came across this bike:
    https://moosebicycle.com/us/bicycles...-fat-bike.html

    Looks very interesting - I would buy, but it's too small for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    Just came across this bike:
    https://moosebicycle.com/us/bicycles...-fat-bike.html

    Looks very interesting - I would buy, but it's too small for me.

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    Would any of those 1000$ bikes handle really cold temperature well? (-40F)
    I was looking at SE [email protected] and El Oso Grande Fat Mountain which are right around 1000$.
    Any experience/advice welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    Just came across this bike:
    https://moosebicycle.com/us/bicycles...-fat-bike.html

    Looks very interesting - I would buy, but it's too small for me.

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    Nice looking ride. I went with the argus sport.
    Stop making me think, I'm busy believing over here
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    Anyone know when the 2017 Mongoose Argus Expert is going to hit the market?

    It's currently shown on the international Mongoose sites, but not the US version:
    Mongoose | Argus Expert

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    Just found this deal on Amazon. The Small is half the price of the Large for some reason, but I'm sure this will fit someone well.

    https://smile.amazon.com/Diamondback...DER&th=1&psc=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    Anyone know when the 2017 Mongoose Argus Expert is going to hit the market?

    It's currently shown on the international Mongoose sites, but not the US version:
    Mongoose | Argus Expert
    If you go to the "Argus, Fatbike for the Masses" thread, on the next to last page there is a Amazon link to 2017's that they are selling.

    I definitely need to learn to link threads................
    Stop making me think, I'm busy believing over here
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    Quote Originally Posted by knarrly View Post
    If you go to the "Argus, Fatbike for the Masses" thread, on the next to last page there is a Amazon link to 2017's that they are selling.

    I definitely need to learn to link threads................
    Thanks for the link. So, it looks like the Argus does not come in an XL, which is a bit of a disappointment.

    As for linking to other posts, see the #366 in the upper right of your post? You can either right click on it and "copy link address" or click it and copy it out of the browser address bar. Ta da!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    So, it looks like the Argus does not come in an XL, which is a bit of a disappointment.
    The 2016 large Argus Expert is a very big bike.


    Where Seat Tube meets Top Tube: 30.25"

    Where balls hit Top Tube if you slip from seat: 31.5"

    Where Top Tube meets Head Tube: 38.25"


    Make sure you will clear that top tube in an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    Anyone know when the 2017 Mongoose Argus Expert is going to hit the market?

    It's currently shown on the international Mongoose sites, but not the US version:
    Mongoose | Argus Expert
    I love the glossy paint logo over the flat black on this bike!

    Here it is for sale on Amazon

    https://www.amazon.com/Mongoose-Argu...ose+argus+bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by vid1900 View Post
    The 2016 large Argus Expert is a very big bike.


    Where Seat Tube meets Top Tube: 30.25"

    Where balls hit Top Tube if you slip from seat: 31.5"

    Where Top Tube meets Head Tube: 38.25"


    Make sure you will clear that top tube in an emergency.

    I'm 6'4"ish+ with a 34-35" inseam. Sounds like it might work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoveMaine View Post
    I'm 6'4"ish+ with a 34-35" inseam. Sounds like it might work?
    With a 34" inseam, sounds like you would easily have the recommended 2" clearance over the top tube .

    Got to keep your balls safe!

    (this is for the 2016 Argus, I have not measured the 2017. So if you get the 2017, please post the measurements )

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    I'm 6'2" with a 33-34" inseam. My large fits pretty well.

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    Can anyone recommend a good cheap fat bike out there that will either come with 4.8+ inch tyres or at least allow them? It seems most of the cheap bikes are limited to 4.

    I know I can get cheap frames that accommodate what I need but I don't want to build it myself.

    I'm in the UK if it helps?

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    Here ya go. Sorry its not exactly under 1k but I figure 1.1k is ok

    I would just check to see if they ship to the UK.

    Free Ship 48 Plus Save up to 60% off new MuleFut Tubeless Compatible Wheel Fat Bikes and Mountain Bikes - MTB - Motobecane Sturgis NX MuleFut Tubeless Compatible Wheel Fatbikes


    Edit: Looks like it will be hard to get it to the UK

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    Here is one but don't know the size or if they have all sizes. One to search for though. Should be able to find it for around 1k. This one is $850

    New Bike Diamondback Bicycles El Oso Grande Fat Mountain Bike | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by alouest View Post
    Would any of those 1000$ bikes handle really cold temperature well? (-40F)
    I was looking at SE [email protected] and El Oso Grande Fat Mountain which are right around 1000$.
    Any experience/advice welcome!
    Go for the Grande. I bought mine and have loved every second of it. You might want to upgrade the stock chaoyang tires to some vee bulldozers for summer and a snowshoe XL for winter, But that is really a personal choice. The stock 95mm rims are great and the overall frame construction is super strong.
    I see that your post is a few weeks old so I hope I am not to late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourrealdad
    Edit: Looks like it will be hard to get it to the UK
    Indeed. Thanks for your efforts but both bikes you mention can't be sent over here for various reasons. There are lots of good deals in the US but I think the very nature of how large & heavy these bikes are makes it difficult to keep the savings internationally.

    I'll keep looking.

    My total budget is somewhere around 1500 GBP but I want to leave around 5-600 for a stages power meter if possible so it's a tough call.

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    Sorry about that. At the bottom it said they were shipping internationally. I guess not for the bike

    Quote Originally Posted by James Bass View Post
    Indeed. Thanks for your efforts but both bikes you mention can't be sent over here for various reasons. There are lots of good deals in the US but I think the very nature of how large & heavy these bikes are makes it difficult to keep the savings internationally.

    I'll keep looking.

    My total budget is somewhere around 1500 GBP but I want to leave around 5-600 for a stages power meter if possible so it's a tough call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Bass View Post
    Indeed. Thanks for your efforts but both bikes you mention can't be sent over here for various reasons. There are lots of good deals in the US but I think the very nature of how large & heavy these bikes are makes it difficult to keep the savings internationally.

    I'll keep looking.

    My total budget is somewhere around 1500 GBP but I want to leave around 5-600 for a stages power meter if possible so it's a tough call.
    If you are in the UK, there is always planet X. On-One Fatty Trail SRAM NX1 Fat Bike | Planet X
    I have no idea about the quality, but it is in your price range and local(ish).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benskoning View Post
    If you are in the UK, there is always planet X.
    I'm 99% sure they wont take 5 inches unfortunately. A pal of mine emailed them this morning to ask though because he's looking at fat bikes too. I'll let you know if they get back to him.

    Planet X and On-One bikes are generally very good though.

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    My buddy got me interested in a fat bike. $600-$800 range would be ideal. I'm wanting one with a 1x or maybe a 2x up front. My list so far includes:

    Norco Bigfoot 6.3 for $899
    Rocky Mountain Blizzard -10 for $999 - LBS only had a med...stand-over is too tall
    Charge Cooker Maxi 1 for $999 - LBS only had a med...stand-over also too tall

    I'm leaning towards the Norco but my LBS doesn't have any in stock. To get one in I have to pay for it upfront. I'm thinking I'll need a small but Norcos have a really low top tube. It would be nice to ride it before I buy it though
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    Was looking for a 5" with max price tag of $1000. The Motobecane Sturgis NX was just over that but no tax or shipping justified it. Been on it for a few months now and love it. Switched out tubes, post and saddle and good to go. Great components for the coin. IF Kinesis frames are good enough for Trek, that's good enough for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vid1900 View Post
    Handsome looking bike!
    Good Day,

    I am Etienne D. GM @ Moose Bicycle. We three former mountain biking racers based out of Montreal, Quebec. If you have any questions regarding our bike or us, feel free to ask.

    Our yellow and black model is our 2016 model. Our 2017 features a charcoal and matte black design.

    Warm regards,

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    Could anyone recommend which of the under $1,000 fat bikes would be best suited for riding in snow? With the cost of new tires I'd assume it would be more cost effective to buy a bike with the appropriate tires already spec'd. Unless that isn't an option like that and new tires need to be added to the budget.

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    ^ Do you mean to ask which sub 1K bike has 5in tires and 190/197 rear hub?

    10 years ago the Pugsley came out with 3.8s, that's been fine for lots of folks but the newer stuff is going to 5in. I'm fine with 4in so far, but I do admit that I'll need to flatten an area of trail to get going after a fresh snow fall. I think geo will play into if as well.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    ^ Do you mean to ask which sub 1K bike has 5in tires and 190/197 rear hub?

    10 years ago the Pugsley came out with 3.8s, that's been fine for lots of folks but the newer stuff is going to 5in. I'm fine with 4in so far, but I do admit that I'll need to flatten an area of trail to get going after a fresh snow fall. I think geo will play into if as well.
    Maybe? Completely new to the fat tires but have been reading up. Basically what I'm seeing is that more of the Bikes Direct offerings will need new tires if you want to play in the snow. Wondering if there are options in the budget that won't need much upgrading to be alright this winter season (New England).

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    Quote Originally Posted by basso4735 View Post
    Maybe? Completely new to the fat tires but have been reading up. Basically what I'm seeing is that more of the Bikes Direct offerings will need new tires if you want to play in the snow. Wondering if there are options in the budget that won't need much upgrading to be alright this winter season (New England).
    Actually, the 4.8" minions coming on the ~$1000 bikes direct sturgis are probably some of the better gripping/width snow tires you'll find in that price range. You want studs for ice, but there are plenty of threads/opinions on tires based on conditions, etc. I believe you can have The House put one of a variety of tires on any of the Framed bikes ordered, though some may add a bit of cost. Your best bet is probably to get a bike you like based on other factors, then buy the specific tires you want for your riding conditions separately. You can always sell the new take-offs on ebay or craigslist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basso4735 View Post
    Basically what I'm seeing is that more of the Bikes Direct offerings will need new tires if you want to play in the snow.
    Some of that is because their choosen tires are usually just not good for snow. I have the boris with 4" vee missions. They work in the snow and they are fun, but a 4.5" snowshoe is called a snowshoe for a reason. Ultimately, anything you ride in the snow will slip and slide. some worse than others. A guy a ride with was having all sorts of fun on some 1.9" tires, but he did fall more often.

    The gravity bullseye monster LTD is acceptable with 4.25" hillbillie tires. They're not 5", but not bad. I'd be hard pressed to buy it over the standard bullseye monster and put the extra $100 towards some better tires of my choice.
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    Just got my 2016 Rocky mountain blizzard - 10 for under a grand after tax on sale (cdn).

    Will update after Sunday when I test her on the trails. From what I researched though, the rims, tires and rear hub are beast. I'm concerned for 9mm qr on the front tho. Time will tell.

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    Hi all, this seems like the appropriate thread.

    I needed a bike that could be my 'grocery getter', as I was sick of contemplating the short trip to the shops on my expensive carbon FS 29er' so I inquired into the fatbike world. I live near the beach so a cruiser also appealed to me.



    I decided on a Progear Domino, as it was about as cheap as I could get for a fatbike (n+1 was a stretch for the significant other.) It came with a 'one size fits all' promise haha. I also read a few posts saying that it was an Avanti Tracker, frame. Sold!



    I had a negotiable price deal on ebay and ended up nabbing one for approx AUD$460 from memory. I picked it up from the factory only 15km from home and grew to love the beast. It was a toy bike. And I was proud to own a toy.

    The road noise was the first thing I, and everyone else noticed. The second thing was the kickback from the wheels, the contact patch was so large that you really had to fight the bike to keep it on track. I put a lot of that down to it's cheap heavy tires. They were CHAO YANG 26x4.0

    I swapped the loopy, cruisey, bars out for a 700mm flat piece and upgraded the brakes to a base level Shimano. It cost about AUD$100 with parts and labor. Bargain, the bike changed completely.

    Surprisingly, the bike was geared fantastically. Shimano Alivio was chunky and mechanical and just what the bike needed. A few soft sand rides later revealed that the bike worked well but just didn't have any purchase in the lose stuff. Riding on the seaweed line was magic. It took the idea of bike freedom to a new level.

    Fatbikes started to make sense to me and my toy bike didn't seem so much like a toy anymore.

    The cleandown was always a pain but I made sure it was done well.





    The next major step was drilled rims. They looked heavy and felt heavy. Anyway, a deal came up for tires and I ended up with some Jumbo Jims. I am absolutely blown away with these tires. Grippy, low rolling resistance, light weight, and they made the bike feel like a regular bike. I could dig in the corners without the kickback and the entire bike changed for the better.

    All up at this stage, about AUD$760

    Anyhow, there's still a lot more to do but the overall point I want to make is that the cost -> fun ratio is ridiculously high on this bike. It seriously rivals my $6K other bike. I've owned the bike for approx 2 years now. It's not at all what I expected and I thank it for taking me to places I didn't expect a toy bike to go.






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    Here is my find under $1K
    I got this Dainichi X-7 Bluepoint at al local store here in Japan for $600!Fatbikes under 00 bucks-img_4077.jpgFatbikes under 00 bucks-img_4076.jpg

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    Solon bicycle in solon ohio (northeast ohio) has 2015 salsa beargrease X5 fat bikes for 999.00 brand new ! quite a few left but medium and large only.one heck of a deal I saw them today 11/15/2016.might be worth the drive for somebody looking for a good quality fat bike at a great deal.

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    As basic as she is, I'm loving my '16 Rocky mountain blizzard 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4nt3ch View Post


    As basic as she is, I'm loving my '16 Rocky mountain blizzard 10
    Basic is beautiful! Easy to maintain and fun to ride. Have fun with your new friend!
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    Another option is the Louis Garneau Gros Louis 3 for $899.99. I think this one stands out from many of the others, so perhaps taking a few for a demo ride might answer the question.

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    For those taking a look at this thread, I've been doing the same. It seems that right now, the lower priced options are:

    -Mongoose Dolomite/Hitch/Malus: I have one, can't set up tubeless, no QR, bad tires and tubes that are a first upgrade. Heavy steel frame. That said, it can be a very cheap intro. ~$250ish

    -Mongoose Argus Sport: Decent components for the price (as of now ~$650)

    -Bikes Direct Variants: Bullseye/Boris. Decent components and prices ranging from $450 to $999 for a Bluto Boris/Bullseye.

    -Framed Minnesota Variants: Much loved on this board for their quality/price. $600-$999 (RST fork).

    -SE [email protected]/[email protected]/Fuji Wendigo: Decent bike, but I think the Minnesota/Argus bikes have a better price/component set. ~$850

    -Diamondback variants: the de Aceroand Gordo ($400-$500) variants seem to be steel. I think the aluminum (Grande) variants are above $1000 and a little overpriced comparatively.

    -Alton Mammoth 2.0: Just saw this on Amazon...don't know anything about it, but the frame looks like an SE [email protected] frame maybe?...Uses an unsealed BB.

    Am I missing at the $500-$800ish bracket?

    **Edit** to add DB and Alton bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Bass View Post
    Can anyone recommend a good cheap fat bike out there that will either come with 4.8+ inch tyres or at least allow them? It seems most of the cheap bikes are limited to 4.

    I know I can get cheap frames that accommodate what I need but I don't want to build it myself.

    I'm in the UK if it helps?
    You might try looking for last years Scott Big Jon. They got good reviews, are well set up or future proofed with thru axles etc (so you can put a bluto on in future) should be around 1100, more or less in your price range. Or else check the Silverback Scoop range, they're from Germany and prices range from about 1100 to 1300 depending on spec and should be available in UK. This years range is also well set up with thru axles, except the cheapest ones. I bought one last year, regrettably the prior models are only QR, so upgrade to a bluto will be a sleep, with a need for new wheel or hub. Otherwise a nice bike.
    Both come stock with 4.7/8 tires, which saves you in the long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazed View Post

    Will 4.6" vs 4.0" tires make a significant difference?

    What would you do given the information provided.

    I can afford either bike, the question is, is the Fatboy worth the extra $$?
    Given that you're already into biking etc I would recommend something that is set up with 197 and 150 thru axles so you can add a susp fork in the future if you feel like it/ get into fattys, as most do once they try them. Many cheaper bikes are still set up with QR so upgrading gets very expensive. The likes of the Scott Big Jon are somewhere in the middle of your price range and come with full size JJ tires etc. Not sure but I think many of the BD fattys are similarly set up nowadays.

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    I would imagine 1100 is way over $1000, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll look around.

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    No probs was reply to James Bass who had that sort of budget. Sorry for jacking the thread. Still think it's worth spending a little more to get components (particularly wheels due to cost) you can use in an upgrade if you know you're an upgrade sort of person. A bluto etc gets spendy if you have to change wheels/ hubs etc

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