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    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike

    Is anyone out there gotten one of these? i search for reviews did not find any sorry if this is already been posted.

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    I too have noticed the lack of attention to the Fatback 190 on here. I'm picking up my Fatback 190 this weekend (not X01- down specced to save money) and will post impressions and pics when I get it. It's the 190 rocker single speed, but I'm getting the components to add gears which I will likely do for the winter, then convert back to SS for the summer. Will ride it for awhile at 32x21 first to see if I can hack it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
    I too have noticed the lack of attention to the Fatback 190 on here. I'm picking up my Fatback 190 this weekend (not X01- down specced to save money) and will post impressions and pics when I get it. It's the 190 rocker single speed, but I'm getting the components to add gears which I will likely do for the winter, then convert back to SS for the summer. Will ride it for awhile at 32x21 first to see if I can hack it.
    Sounds like a nice build.. I am thinking of this instead of waiting for 2-3 more months for the expert FATboy!!!!! i am just tired of waiting

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    My Singletracks compadre got to check one out at Outerbike last fall:

    Review: 4.8in Fatback Aluminum Fat Bike | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddslacker View Post
    My Singletracks compadre got to check one out at Outerbike last fall:

    Review: 4.8in Fatback Aluminum Fat Bike | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog
    Thanks for the reply much appreciated!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    Sounds like a nice build.. I am thinking of this instead of waiting for 2-3 more months for the expert FATboy!!!!! i am just tired of waiting
    Having seen both in person, I'd take this over the Fatboy.

    meanwhile I have *only* 3.8' on my Fatback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    Sounds like a nice build.. I am thinking of this instead of waiting for 2-3 more months for the expert FATboy!!!!! i am just tired of waiting
    I definitely considered the Spec. Ultimately decided on the Fatback because it can go singlespeed and being local to 907 it's cool to be able to go into the shop where my bike was designed at any time. USA made frame and fork are gonna cost a bit more, so I'm okay with paying that premium. Finally (subjective) I like the looks of the Fatback a lot more, hard angled toptubes rather than curves are my preference.

    However, for $500 less than the Fatback 190 I ordered, the Spec expert has hydraulic brakes (okay as long as you don't live somewhere really cold, I hear mineral oil hydros are bad choice at 10F and colder) and a carbon fork. So it's hard to argue with the value of the Fatboy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddslacker View Post
    meanwhile I have *only* 3.8' on my Fatback.
    3.8 feet is an exponential leg up on 99.9% of the industry.
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    I had my LBS order Mine today!!!! i am excited should see it the end of next week unless the holiday causes a day or two delay..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
    I too have noticed the lack of attention to the Fatback 190 on here. I'm picking up my Fatback 190 this weekend (not X01- down specced to save money) and will post impressions and pics when I get it. It's the 190 rocker single speed, but I'm getting the components to add gears which I will likely do for the winter, then convert back to SS for the summer. Will ride it for awhile at 32x21 first to see if I can hack it.

    Post some PICS when you get it after your first ride!!!! thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
    the Spec expert has hydraulic brakes (okay as long as you don't live somewhere really cold, I hear mineral oil hydros are bad choice at 10F and colder) and a carbon fork. So it's hard to argue with the value of the Fatboy.
    I think it depends on the quality of mineral oil. I've ridden my 907 with XT brakes down to 3F without issue. From what I've researched mineral oil has a freezing point somewhere around -20F.
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    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike

    I have never had issues with my hydro brakes either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    I have never had issues with my hydro brakes either.
    I never had a problem with DOT brakes but I did with a mineral oil system at about -10f

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    I built a 190mm 9Zero7 for a friend a couple weeks ago. He's like 160 pounds, so he went with Rolling Darryls and 45Nrth Husker Dus. It's built with the Moonlander spec Surly OD crankset and Sram X7 shifter and derailleur on an XT ten speed cassette.
    It has a ton of chain clearance in any gear.
    If he ever decides to go to Clownshoes, he still has room.

    I just finished my Clownshoes and I'll be wrapping mine up shortly. Probably right after Christmas.

    Ooops. Never mind. I just looked back and realized this is a Fatback thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DITCHMAN View Post
    I never had a problem with DOT brakes but I did with a mineral oil system at about -10f
    I emailed about Fatback but didn't get a response. Maybe I'll try again. My hydros worked fine at 9f this week (mineral). My Avids were the same junk at 0f they were at 100f

    I've noticed the viscosity of the mineral oil changes, which changes the action a little.

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    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike

    Fatback was very responsive to my questions. I would try again they seemed to be happy to be talking about the products they sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaycj View Post
    I emailed about Fatback but didn't get a response. Maybe I'll try again. My hydros worked fine at 9f this week (mineral). My Avids were the same junk at 0f they were at 100f

    I've noticed the viscosity of the mineral oil changes, which changes the action a little.
    Maybe the new ones will be fine, I don't know bigger ports or something. I had problems with the 775's, the fluid got so thick it blew the rear caliper apart. Gregs a good guy he will talk to you about it.

    Also I found either Formula or Hopes are the hot ticket for the cold, I'm not a Avid fan either.

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    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike-zici2ifl.jpg
    Here she is, fat & single at 32x21 with Bud/Lou/Clownshoe. No "real" ride report but around the block the gear felt good for plowing through 3-4 inches unpacked snow, my back yard at about a foot unpacked is another story. Look forward to a real ride hopefully tomorrow.

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    Looks Great, that is the color that i ordered.

    looking forward to a ride report, very cool single-speed and all!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
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    Here she is, fat & single at 32x21 with Bud/Lou/Clownshoe. No "real" ride report but around the block the gear felt good for plowing through 3-4 inches unpacked snow, my back yard at about a foot unpacked is another story. Look forward to a real ride hopefully tomorrow.
    Good to meet you Willum today at Speedway - That 20" green machine with the big skids is a head-turner for sure. I was the gimpy guy picking up the raw 18" Fatback. Will post a pic of mine tomorrow. See you out on the trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum
    Here she is, fat & single at 32x21 with Bud/Lou/Clownshoe. No "real" ride report but around the block the gear felt good for plowing through 3-4 inches unpacked snow, my back yard at about a foot unpacked is another story. Look forward to a real ride hopefully tomorrow.
    Sharp rig, I still live the Fatbacks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesotony View Post
    Good to meet you Willum today at Speedway - That 20" green machine with the big skids is a head-turner for sure. I was the gimpy guy picking up the raw 18" Fatback. Will post a pic of mine tomorrow. See you out on the trails.

    Any photos? what are the specs on your FATBACK?

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    Looks awesome man! I'm wondering if I can fit a Bud on the rear of my 170mm Fatback on 70mm UMAs...

    Singlespeed 20" Fatback here as well. Love it!
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    I ordered an XO1 that should be here Friday (27th) and can hardly wait. I've bought a couple bikes from them in the last 2 years and couldn't be happier with their customer service. After I move some parts over from my old Fatback (carbon fork, XTR brakes, Syntace flexible post, convert it to tubeless, etc) I will post a pic or two and weigh it as well. Of course to anyone who's interested I am happy to give you a ride report as well, I guarantee I'll have at least 10 hours on it over the coming weekend...Can't wait. Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I ordered an XO1 that should be here Friday (27th) and can hardly wait. I've bought a couple bikes from them in the last 2 years and couldn't be happier with their customer service. After I move some parts over from my old Fatback (carbon fork, XTR brakes, Syntace flexible post, convert it to tubeless, etc) I will post a pic or two and weigh it as well. Of course to anyone who's interested I am happy to give you a ride report as well, I guarantee I'll have at least 10 hours on it over the coming weekend...Can't wait. Jeff
    I hope that mine is in by Friday as well but i would expect more on Monday next week!!!! looking forward to seeing pics and a ride report...

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    Ride report

    Rode for about an hour and a half yesterday making fresh tracks in 3-4" of snow over a groomed trail (Bolling Alley in its entirety). Was VERY glad to be rolling maximum sized tires!

    On this ride I couldn't tell a difference in cockpit geometry, etc. from my other Fatback (a 20" 170 frame with regular dropouts). I love my 170 Fatback and I love the new 190. The single speed is also a very satisfying ride - although I did some hiking/pushing on soft steep uphill sections, the 32x21 gear is adequate for these fresh snow conditions with level and gradual uphills. I'm happy with that ratio after ride one and will hold off adding gears for awhile longer I think. I'm really into the pure connected zen feeling of singlespeed riding....

    I have size 13 feet and ride with platforms, but didn't notice any heel strikes on the chainstays, so that's good.

    One minor complaint is that my new bike was given to me with a slow leak in the front tube Luckily the front wheel from my 170 fatback (Bud on a 90mm UMA rim) plays nice with the new aluminum fork on the 190 so I didn't have to monkey with a tube change before I could play with my new toy! Note the mismatched, dirty front wheel:Fatback 190 XO1 Bike-9y2jwgl.jpg

    I was glad that the shop was willing to down-spec the components to make it more affordable. Build came in at $3100 including the following:
    -bud/lou/clownshoe
    -$100 to upgrade the 190 frame to 190 rocker
    -Lower-end (for Fatback) Race Face stem, handlebar, seatpost
    -nice FSA Comet cranks and bottom bracket
    -1x10 x7/x9 drivetrain (derailleur, shifter, cassette, and multi-speed chain) which I then had them take off the bike after dialing in the derailleur tune and cable/chain length
    -Singlespeed rear cog, singlespeed chain, and cog spacers on the bike
    -Labor for the above-mentioned singlespeed and 1x10 monkey business

    With 907 selling bud/lou/clownshoe builds for $2400, if I were Fatback I would offer a lower-cost option right on the website rather than making customers put it together with a custom build. As it stands the only 190 build on their website is the $3700 X01, so it looks like a $1300 premium to go Fatback 190 over 907!

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    Willum, I saw your bike on back your car as I leaving Kincaid yesterday. You're a beast, I like my gears! But very nice ride!

    I rode Mighty Bike and Bowling Alley (counter-clockwise) to Tower Power a little ahead of you I think. It was a lot of work with my Endo/Larry combo. Definitely a time when the bigger tires would have helped! The section between the Sandbox and Tower Power was much better - perhaps it had been drug/packed more recently. I bailed and took the trail from Tower Power back over to the multi-use trail to get back to the Chalet where I started, rather than finishing on Bowling Alley. But as always, a great day to be riding.

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    907 is a good value no doubt and I don't think you could go wrong with either bike, but the 1X drivetrain is easily the more desirable build (at least for me anyway) and it is quite a bit more money to purchase. Another thing to consider though, all these companies are struggling to keep up with demand and I think we'll have to give them all another season or so for the dust to settle. Now that 190 has been determined to be the "new standard" and everyone is doing carbon, I think you're going to see more uniformed and comparable build kits from everyone. Right now, everyone is just doing whatever they can to piece together complete bikes and get them out the door so as not to lose any sales. If you compare apples to apples (9zero7 XO1 to Fatback XO1) they are really close in price, with 9zero7 being about $500 more, but it does come with a carbon fork. No offense to anyone riding the White Bros carbon fork, but it really isn't that light and it's kinda pricey, in all honesty that isn't where I would put my money on this bike. The new wave of carbon forks are going to blow the old carbon forks out of the water and I'd rather not pay for the older one's now. So getting back to comparing similar builds between the 2 bikes, the Fatback wins IMO...and their new carbon fork will be a thru axle to boot. BUT, I'd gladly ride either one and be glad to have it, I really like all the choices we have now.

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    Cancelled my Fatboy order and went with the 190 XO1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kovickc View Post
    Cancelled my Fatboy order and went with the 190 XO1.

    Good Call!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kovickc View Post
    Cancelled my Fatboy order and went with the 190 XO1.

    The Fatboy is a pretty sweet value, but if you want to ride your new fatbike this year, then I am not sure you really had much of a choice. Even the two dealers I spoke to have no idea when they will be getting them in. I like what Specialized did right out of the gate though, 190 spacing and that carbon fork were a really great move by them IMO. I can't wait to see Trek and Specialized battle it out in this category for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    The Fatboy is a pretty sweet value, but if you want to ride your new fatbike this year, then I am not sure you really had much of a choice. Even the two dealers I spoke to have no idea when they will be getting them in. I like what Specialized did right out of the gate though, 190 spacing and that carbon fork were a really great move by them IMO. I can't wait to see Trek and Specialized battle it out in this category for years to come.
    I couldn't agree more that the Fatboy Expert once out will be a great bike!!! The Carbon Fork, nice looking tires and different wheels are all very nice. I would like to see some ride reports on the tires in the snow and what not have not seen many reports except for the one guy that is in Arizona.

    i am stocked to be getting a fatback i had been looking at them for some time and decided on the Fatboy based on the reasons above but just got tired of waiting for it to show up.

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    The only major complaint I would have with the Fatboy is with the rims, and their (lack of) bead hook. As in, there is none. Not sure why they are re-inventing this, bead hooks don't add much weight and make me feel a whole lot safer. I have no idea why you'd eliminate those on a bike like this, especially when you consider how low we get with air pressure's on these sleds, but then again I am no engineer, I just wouldn't touch it until other's had tried it out first.

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    Great review Willum!
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    Mesotony"s new 190 Fatback

    Fatback 190 1x11 in the raw. Quick photo on the trail behind my house. Usually sporting pogies and frame bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesotony View Post
    Fatback 190 1x11 in the raw. Quick photo on the trail behind my house. Usually sporting pogies and frame bag.
    Nice looking Ride!!!! hope to have one soon.

    what are your build specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    Great looking ride.

    But I don't get the reasoning for some things (no offence intended - I just don't follow):

    2 Buds?? But Lous are more square and perhaps better in big snow?

    Why 90 and not 100 Clowns? I don't get why not go for AWAP (as wide as possible) to take advantage of the 190 frame right off the hop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartski View Post
    Great looking ride.

    But I don't get the reasoning for some things (no offence intended - I just don't follow):

    2 Buds?? But Lous are more square and perhaps better in big snow?

    Why 90 and not 100 Clowns? I don't get why not go for AWAP (as wide as possible) to take advantage of the 190 frame right off the hop?
    Fatback has their own rim(s), 70 and 90, although as I understand it, they are getting out of the 90 biz. So the Clownshoe wasn't a legit option, although anything is possible of course. 90 is really close in width though, and they set up tubeless really easy.

    I bought mine with 2 Bud's as well. These tires are really big and meaty, and provide a ton of traction and a considerable amount of lower rolling resistance when compared to Lou's. Bud's with 7.5 psi are going to provide all the traction you need in 99.99999% of the riding you'll ever encounter IMO. But, like the author said, everybody has different wants and needs on these bikes, I'm just glad we have choices. It wasn't that long ago we had 2 tires total. I ride my bike 7.5 miles to the trail head, which of course is 7.5 back. So when I go for rides I am doing 15 total miles on pavement, and I appreciate the lower rolling resistance so for me it was a no brainer, your needs may vary.

    I think you're going to see more and more riders own 2 fat bikes. The XO1 190 from Fatback will be my "peacemaker" in really bad weather and or deep snow, and my next fat bike will be my "racer" and will be carbon with thru axles and weigh 25 lbs or less. If you really get into the sport, there is no way 1 fat bike will be enough. Min. of 2, with a spare set of hoops that you keep studs on is really the only way to cover all your bases IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Fatback has their own rim(s), 70 and 90, although as I understand it, they are getting out of the 90 biz. So the Clownshoe wasn't a legit option, although anything is possible of course. 90 is really close in width though, and they set up tubeless really easy.

    I bought mine with 2 Bud's as well. These tires are really big and meaty, and provide a ton of traction and a considerable amount of lower rolling resistance when compared to Lou's. Bud's with 7.5 psi are going to provide all the traction you need in 99.99999% of the riding you'll ever encounter IMO. But, like the author said, everybody has different wants and needs on these bikes, I'm just glad we have choices. It wasn't that long ago we had 2 tires total. I ride my bike 7.5 miles to the trail head, which of course is 7.5 back. So when I go for rides I am doing 15 total miles on pavement, and I appreciate the lower rolling resistance so for me it was a no brainer, your needs may vary.

    I think you're going to see more and more riders own 2 fat bikes. The XO1 190 from Fatback will be my "peacemaker" in really bad weather and or deep snow, and my next fat bike will be my "racer" and will be carbon with thru axles and weigh 25 lbs or less. If you really get into the sport, there is no way 1 fat bike will be enough. Min. of 2, with a spare set of hoops that you keep studs on is really the only way to cover all your bases IMO.
    Yeah, a Bud definitely rolls better than even a Nate. But I can barely fit the Lou on the Muk with Clowns, and had to go back to BFL. Bud would be impossible. How much space is there left at the BB fork with the Bud and 190? There's a thumb width on a friend's FB 190 with a Lou, but with this Muk experience, a 200 spacing seems likely for a 5+ tire with ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    Nice looking Ride!!!! hope to have one soon.

    what are your build specs?
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    Fatback Aluminum 190 mm X01 build
    Carbon Fat Back Fork (loaner aluminum on until arrives)
    Raceface Next SL Crankset
    Speedway Carbon Rims
    Tires are studded Escalator and Dillinger 190 studs each -running tubeless.
    Time Carbon Pedals ( good to -15 F, after that flats)

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I ordered an XO1 that should be here Friday (27th) and can hardly wait. I've bought a couple bikes from them in the last 2 years and couldn't be happier with their customer service. After I move some parts over from my old Fatback (carbon fork, XTR brakes, Syntace flexible post, convert it to tubeless, etc) I will post a pic or two and weigh it as well. Of course to anyone who's interested I am happy to give you a ride report as well, I guarantee I'll have at least 10 hours on it over the coming weekend...Can't wait. Jeff
    Did your bike show up? any pics ride review? I hope mine shows up at the shop today.

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    Yes it did show up and it is beautiful. Unfortunately, life got in the way and I haven't got it fully together or ridden it a single mile I suspect it will be Wed. or Thurs. before it's complete and ridden

    I did get the wheels sealed up tubeless though and have to say Fatback has a great rim/tape combination to do that with. Takes me 2hrs per wheel, but it's pretty fool proof and held air with 1 oz. of sealant. Still holding this AM.

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    Checking in after 5 rides on my singlespeed rocker. I wouldn't change a thing. Have really been enjoying the singlespeed and the Bud/Lou combo. None of my rides have involved long climbs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
    Checking in after 5 rides on my singlespeed rocker. I wouldn't change a thing. Have really been enjoying the singlespeed and the Bud/Lou combo. None of my rides have involved long climbs though.
    That is great, i can't wait to get mine only a few more days but i am having gears on My GREEN MACHINE!

    i just heard from my shop mine will be in Thursday because of the two holidays.

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    I love both shops and I tend to try to keep my money in AK. Bought a Fatback(non 190 mil) and a carbon 9:ZERO:7. Love both bikes. Its like being in love with two different girls. Ha. Having the crew at Speedway throw on a 1X11 setup today. Can't wait! Oh yeah, the single track out at Kincaid rips! Almost got lost out at Campbell Creek three days ago. hahahahaha.
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    Here it is...

    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike-20131231_193600.jpgFatback 190 XO1 Bike-20140101_072329.jpg

    Well it is finally finished. Couple things....

    I weighed on two different nice digital bike scales, one says it weighs 30.57lbs, the other says 30.9 lbs. This is with the XT trail pedals, 6oz of Orange Seal in each tire, cages, and two computer mounts. That's how I ride my bikes, so that's how I weigh them. Obviously if I weighed it like manufacturer's do, I'd strip all that stuff off and then lie by another half pound, but this is real world accurate.

    I used parts from another Fatback I had, like the carbon fork, Chris King bttm brkt and old crank, Enve bars, XTR brakes, Syntace post.

    Clearance is very tight on the front fork, and this is with 70mm rims. Clown Shoe with the big tires would be a no-go, but this fork was never designed to run that combo anyway so that isn't a complaint. However, I bought the thru axle kit for the front hub when I bought the bike and as soon as their new carbon fork is ready to ship, one will be shipped to my house and that will eliminate that (non)issue and shave some nice weight in the process.

    It is snowing as I type and this thing will be getting it's first ride in about an hour. Can't wait.

    Special note of thanks to Nick at Fatback, he really came through for me in several areas. Suffice to say Nick set me up with everything I needed, when I needed it and his customer service is one of the reason's I love Fatback.

    Already named her the "General Lee" in honor of my favorite TV show when I was growing up, The Dukes of Hazzard. Plus, they call the color Hemi Orange, so it seemed fitting.

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    Well it is finally finished. Couple things....

    I weighed on two different nice digital bike scales, one says it weighs 30.57lbs, the other says 30.9 lbs. This is with the XT trail pedals, 6oz of Orange Seal in each tire, cages, and two computer mounts. That's how I ride my bikes, so that's how I weigh them. Obviously if I weighed it like manufacturer's do, I'd strip all that stuff off and then lie by another half pound, but this is real world accurate.

    I used parts from another Fatback I had, like the carbon fork, Chris King bttm brkt and old crank, Enve bars, XTR brakes, Syntace post.

    Clearance is very tight on the front fork, and this is with 70mm rims. Clown Shoe with the big tires would be a no-go, but this fork was never designed to run that combo anyway so that isn't a complaint. However, I bought the thru axle kit for the front hub when I bought the bike and as soon as their new carbon fork is ready to ship, one will be shipped to my house and that will eliminate that (non)issue and shave some nice weight in the process.

    It is snowing as I type and this thing will be getting it's first ride in about an hour. Can't wait.

    Special note of thanks to Nick at Fatback, he really came through for me in several areas. Suffice to say Nick set me up with everything I needed, when I needed it and his customer service is one of the reason's I love Fatback.

    Already named her the "General Lee" in honor of my favorite TV show when I was growing up, The Dukes of Hazzard. Plus, they call the color Hemi Orange, so it seemed fitting.

    Sweet! So the carbon fork will work with Clown/Bud? How's the clearance in the rear triangle/fork?

    Wow, that's a huge cassette!

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    Sweet! So the carbon fork will work with Clown/Bud? How's the clearance in the rear triangle/fork?

    Wow, that's a huge cassette!

    Great looking Bike!!! Perfectly named

    the cassette is 10-42 XO1 cassette

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    Nice rig, and yeah the biggest combo you can use with the Fatback old carbon fork is 90mm rim and a Bud set up tubeless with very little clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DITCHMAN View Post
    Nice rig, and yeah the biggest combo you can use with the Fatback old carbon fork is 90mm rim and a Bud set up tubeless with very little clearance.

    Thanks. It's a great build, and I mean no disrespect. But I can't see upgrading to 190 unless Clowns/Bud/Lou is the minimum capacity…and being ready for even more advanced and wider tires for more float.

    Related: I had to ride with 4 lbs yesterday and the drag was wild; so a wider tire with more lbs may give the same float with better rolling??

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    "It's a great build, and I mean no disrespect. But I can't see upgrading to 190 unless Clowns/Bud/Lou is the minimum capacity…and being ready for even more advanced and wider tires for more float."

    Everybody's wants and needs are different, what works great for me might not for you. What's so awesome is that we have choices now. I've always owned multiple bikes, whether it be road or mountain, and fatbikes are no different. When you buy the second or third one, you can now start setting them up for the perfect combo of whatever you're doing that particular day. But for a single fat bike, I think the 70mm wide rims with the Bud is a great combo, not good, but great.

    I rode a moonie last week for about 3 hours on a nice slick and muddy/greasy trail. It had the Bud and Lou, with Clownshoe's. Traction was great considering the trail conditions, but no better than my new 70mm rim and Bud only combo. I don't think I could tell the difference in the traction dept if my life depended on it. Plus I weigh 170 max so I'm not a heavy guy that needs boatloads of float. I will take the 2lb less rotating weight any day and since this is my daily driver the 70mm rim was the best choice, your mileage and needs may vary.

    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike-20140101_130903.jpg

    Take this pic here....the center mogul isn't much, but because of the turn at the top it's hard to carry much speed in the snow leading up to it. On my old 170 Fatback with Husker Du's I wouldn't even attempt this because of the steep climb(s) on both ends of the mogul, but with the new ride and Bud's (each mounted in the propulsion direction and not the cornering direction mind you) I was able to grind up both steeps easy. The bigger tires open up a whole new world and I am stoked to have this in my arsenal now.

    Another thing I noticed was how much taller the bike is with the Bud's versus the Husker Du's, it's noticeable, and the g-forces in this trail now seem slightly shallower and rolling or hopping over logs is like the first time you rode a 29er, as in game changer. Overall the bike was just amazing and I did a 4+ hour ride in fresh snow in single digits and had arguably the best ride of my life (and that includes my trips to Moab) because of the new ride.

    If anyone is thinking of a new fatbike, I'd highly recommend buying something that you can run these bigger tires on, the ride is orgasmic and you don't need 100mm wide rims if you're at all concerned about the rotating weight like I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    "It's a great build, and I mean no disrespect. But I can't see upgrading to 190 unless Clowns/Bud/Lou is the minimum capacity…and being ready for even more advanced and wider tires for more float."

    If anyone is thinking of a new fatbike, I'd highly recommend buying something that you can run these bigger tires on, the ride is orgasmic and you don't need 100mm wide rims if you're at all concerned about the rotating weight like I was.

    Haha! Single digit riding - I always find it hilarious how much fun I can have at such slow speeds!

    I hear you about the rolling weight. There was a big difference going from RD's to Clowns. But without float, we walk...or trudge.

    And there was a big difference from Nate to Lou as well. Not as big as Larry to Nate, but still significant for sticking to the trail.

    And yeah, all's good with more bikes and more choice. Still, for this Clydesdale, float in 6inch+ of snow, is the priority.

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    Just picked up my 1x11 X01 190 GREEN Machine tonight got a short ride in!!! loved it will post pics tomorrow..

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    My GREEN MACHINE

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    Love the color!

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    Nice lookin ride, I almost got the green one as well. What do you think of the Sterlings by the way?

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    Before I got my long term test rig (170mm version) I told myself if it arrived in green I'd buy it. It did, so I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Nice lookin ride, I almost got the green one as well. What do you think of the Sterlings by the way?
    I got short ride in last night, but they seemed to handle very well even in the deep snow. I had a pugsley in the past and had an ENDO and LARRY on there so all i really have to compare. i am very impressed with them i may get another short ride today and a long one tomorrow so i will give more feedback tomorrow!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    I got short ride in last night, but they seemed to handle very well even in the deep snow. I had a pugsley in the past and had an ENDO and LARRY on there so all i really have to compare. i am very impressed with them i may get another short ride today and a long one tomorrow so i will give more feedback tomorrow!!!
    I also built mine up yesterday (with tadraper) but smaller frame and got in a short ride. It was a whopping 7 degrees F and in the negatives with the wind, but I had a huge smile the whole time. This was my first fatbike ride ever. I rode down a gravel road that has not been plowed, yet we have had 8-10" of snow the previous 2 days and the Fatback with Sterling tires handles great going through a few miles of a road only 4x4 and snowmobiles have been going on.
    We are planning on a longer group ride tomorrow that may mix some of the same roads and possibly trail...but another 4-7" of snow is forecast, so the trail with over a foot may be a little much.

    Overall: Happy Fatbiker!
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    Great looking Green Machine Tadraper! What fork might that be Anortherncrazy?
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    Great looking Green Machine Tadraper! What fork might that be Anortherncrazy?
    Carver O'beast. Love the damn thing!


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    Today's Frosty Bottom 50 won on a Fatback 190 X01 bike - Congrats Tim Bernsten. Top five were all "Alaska frames".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesotony View Post
    Today's Frosty Bottom 50 won on a Fatback 190 X01 bike - Congrats Tim Bernsten. Top five were all "Alaska frames".
    Cool. Doubt he needed the 190 though, seemed like a good day for knards on 70s. Do you know what rim/tire combo he was running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
    Cool. Doubt he needed the 190 though, seemed like a good day for knards on 70s. Do you know what rim/tire combo he was running?
    Fatback's carbon wheel and Husker Du's.

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    [QUOTE=I think you're going to see more and more riders own 2 fat bikes. The XO1 190 from Fatback will be my "peacemaker" in really bad weather and or deep snow, and my next fat bike will be my "racer" and will be carbon with thru axles and weigh 25 lbs or less. If you really get into the sport, there is no way 1 fat bike will be enough. Min. of 2, with a spare set of hoops that you keep studs on is really the only way to cover all your bases IMO.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Yes it did show up and it is beautiful. Unfortunately, life got in the way and I haven't got it fully together or ridden it a single mile I suspect it will be Wed. or Thurs. before it's complete and ridden

    I did get the wheels sealed up tubeless though and have to say Fatback has a great rim/tape combination to do that with. Takes me 2hrs per wheel, but it's pretty fool proof and held air with 1 oz. of sealant. Still holding this AM.

    To set them up tubeless did you do anything besides add STANS? reading they are tubeless ready and looking at them seems they are ready to go.

    thanks for the help

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    The following setup tubeless with no issues just added some stans and off i went.

    Rims UMA III 70mm Tubeless Compatible
    Tires Fatback Sterling 4.25" 120 tpi

    easiest tubeless setup i have used!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    To set them up tubeless did you do anything besides add STANS? reading they are tubeless ready and looking at them seems they are ready to go.

    thanks for the help

    Terry


    I have set up a couple sets of Fatback rims now tubeless and I will tell you how I do it, and I have had excellent luck with this and is the only way I'd do it going forward.

    Remove everything from rims, everything. Clean and wipe down with Acetone. Apply whatever you want for a rim strip, and use 3 pieces of 3M strapping tape #8898, 72mm wide. Lay a strip down each side going all the way over to the bead or side wall, but not up the sides (yet). Then lay the third strip down the center. Get all 3 as flat and smooth as you can. Then go to Home Depot and get a roll of closed cell foam insulation, it is pink in color and "ribbed" and about 10'' wide. Cut a strip the same width as the inner channel in the rim and put it in there, with a few pieces of the strapping tape to hold it. Then lay down two layers of Stans tape (that you can only buy from Fatback)....I use two layers because it creates a little tighter seal and is easier to mount up tire. Important to run the Stans from top of bead or rim sidewall, to the other side of the rim and the top of the bead/sidewall. You want this tape to cover the entire inside of the rim and up both sides. Then mount up tire and tube like normal using Orange Seal as the bead lubricant so you get the "pop's" when you air up tire. You want to hear these pop's so you know it is seated. Then break one side of tire off rim, remove tube, insert your tubeless valve and remount the tire bead. Now your ready to inflate tire. After it is inflated, remove valve core and insert your Orange seal into tire. I like to use Orange Seal for the lubricant, and I am very liberal with it, for two reasons...Lubricant of some sort is needed to get the "pop" when you inflate tire, and if you are liberal with it, the tire will actually seal with no other Orange Seal and that way you know it's a good seal, when it doesn't need more than an ounce or less to seal it up and it doesn't leak. Of course I deflate and use the rest of the Orange Seal so I have something in the tire, I just like to know it's a good seal and the tire doesn't need a gallon of it to seal up good.

    2 days ago I ran over a sharp object and destroyed a brand spanking new Bud tire and will be mounting up another tire as soon as it gets here. The nice thing about the way I do my tubless versus the split tube method is that it's ready to go now, no more fuss with an inner tube and or tape of any sort. It is done and unless you have to replace a spoke for some reason, it's the best and easiest way going forward to mount different tires, or replace a brand new one you just destroyed.

    PS-Very important not to use a razor blade to cut valve stem hole in tape. Use a very hot awl. I heat mine up with a torch then apply gentle pressure and make a very small hole, half the size of the valve stem. Also important to push down valve from the backside with your thumb while you tighten the nut on the outside, do this before you mount up the tire for the final time or you'll be chasing the nut tightness forever and it will leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I have set up a couple sets of Fatback rims now tubeless and I will tell you how I do it, and I have had excellent luck with this and is the only way I'd do it going forward.

    Remove everything from rims, everything. Clean and wipe down with Acetone. Apply whatever you want for a rim strip, and use 3 pieces of 3M strapping tape #8898, 72mm wide. Lay a strip down each side going all the way over to the bead or side wall, but not up the sides (yet). Then lay the third strip down the center. Get all 3 as flat and smooth as you can. Then go to Home Depot and get a roll of closed cell foam insulation, it is pink in color and "ribbed" and about 10'' wide. Cut a strip the same width as the inner channel in the rim and put it in there, with a few pieces of the strapping tape to hold it. Then lay down two layers of Stans tape (that you can only buy from Fatback)....I use two layers because it creates a little tighter seal and is easier to mount up tire. Important to run the Stans from top of bead or rim sidewall, to the other side of the rim and the top of the bead/sidewall. You want this tape to cover the entire inside of the rim and up both sides. Then mount up tire and tube like normal using Orange Seal as the bead lubricant so you get the "pop's" when you air up tire. You want to hear these pop's so you know it is seated. Then break one side of tire off rim, remove tube, insert your tubeless valve and remount the tire bead. Now your ready to inflate tire. After it is inflated, remove valve core and insert your Orange seal into tire. I like to use Orange Seal for the lubricant, and I am very liberal with it, for two reasons...Lubricant of some sort is needed to get the "pop" when you inflate tire, and if you are liberal with it, the tire will actually seal with no other Orange Seal and that way you know it's a good seal, when it doesn't need more than an ounce or less to seal it up and it doesn't leak. Of course I deflate and use the rest of the Orange Seal so I have something in the tire, I just like to know it's a good seal and the tire doesn't need a gallon of it to seal up good.

    2 days ago I ran over a sharp object and destroyed a brand spanking new Bud tire and will be mounting up another tire as soon as it gets here. The nice thing about the way I do my tubless versus the split tube method is that it's ready to go now, no more fuss with an inner tube and or tape of any sort. It is done and unless you have to replace a spoke for some reason, it's the best and easiest way going forward to mount different tires, or replace a brand new one you just destroyed.
    Thank you for the response i will try that for sure and order some of that tape from Fatback..

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    Please see the added paragraph at the end of my original reply. If you are unsure about the foam insulation I am talking about lemme know, I will shoot a pic of it for ya. It's great stuff and makes mounting the tire waaay easier.

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    just ordered 190 X01.
    Anodized Black, asked them to set up tubeless. I plan to upgrade to carbon fork. Will consider the Spec Fatboy fork, Carver, or the new Fatback Corvus fork that is "on the boat (or nearly on the boat)". Maybe eta mid next week on the bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by landho View Post
    just ordered 190 X01.
    Anodized Black, asked them to set up tubeless. I plan to upgrade to carbon fork. Will consider the Spec Fatboy fork, Carver, or the new Fatback Corvus fork that is "on the boat (or nearly on the boat)". Maybe eta mid next week on the bike
    Yeah it's kind of a shame the new carbon forks were not available yet or I would have gotten one right off the bat myself. Fatback uses a 455 A-C, and if you wish to match that, there is no other fork out there that I am aware of with the crown distance. But, the new Corvus fork is badass anyway and sounds like will be here very shortly, so whatev on that issue.

    You're going to love the bike. That Xo1 equipped model is the best bang for the buck out there at the moment, of course this sport is changing by the month so who knows what rolls out next week or month, but for now, easily the best value for under $4K. Smart move having them set it up tubeless if you're not comfy doing it yourself, it's worth having done, major upgrade over tubes.

    Have fun and be sure to post a pic and ride report, I think yer gonna love it, I know I do mine.

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    The Carver fork is 465 A-C. So that fork would be more slacker geo. I'll email Nick and ask if that will create a noticeable diff.

    One other question. Thought I read that the frame can handle 29er. Would it handle 29+?

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    I think it would be best to run that tire ? by Nick. I think so....but he'd know for certain. Corvus fork is literally made for that frame and looks great to boot IMO, plus you can get it with a thru axle and Nick can sell ya the front hub end caps to convert your stock hub set. I don't know if Carver has a thru axle option. Just something to think about.

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    I have had my FATBACK for a few weeks now just hit 200 miles on it and i must say i am so happy with it. everything just works as i would expect and have had no issues. Setup tubeless easy with the UMA 3 wheels and the Sterling tires. I am interested in the Carbon fork as well but figured i would wait until summer time before looking to get it, i was also thinking about rabbit holes with the 190 hubs from FATBACK to go 29er+ as i have seen a few have them setup this way and seems like a good option.

    Just did a 3 day Hundy with another guy all snowy gravel low teens and very windy so much so you could only laugh it slowed you down so much.

    thanks to the team at FATBACK for putting out such a good product.

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    well, I discussed with Nick about the Carver fork...
    Carver, rake 45mm, A-C 465mm
    Fatback, rake 42mm, A-C 455mm
    He was more concerned that the rake will change the handling than the A-C.
    So I found the White Brothers fork: rake 42mm, A-C 455mm. Probably a nice fit, but it weighs 910g... which I will guess is not that much of a weight savings, since only the tube is carbon, everything else is still alum. I'll just wait...

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    Yeah that doesn't sound like something I'd do. Never was overly impressed with the White Bros. fork anyway, cost way to much for what it weighs compared to what else is out there. Fatback's old carbon fork is a bargain @ $200, and if you're only going to run 70mm rims, you can fit the big tires in there....but even then, if I had the aluminum fork and was willing to spend $200, I'd just cough up an additional $200 and get the Corvus. That's the ticket, and like I said, thru axle to boot. Can't go wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Yeah that doesn't sound like something I'd do. Never was overly impressed with the White Bros. fork anyway, cost way to much for what it weighs compared to what else is out there. Fatback's old carbon fork is a bargain @ $200, and if you're only going to run 70mm rims, you can fit the big tires in there....but even then, if I had the aluminum fork and was willing to spend $200, I'd just cough up an additional $200 and get the Corvus. That's the ticket, and like I said, thru axle to boot. Can't go wrong with that.
    The old Fatback carbon fork fits Bud on a 90mm Uma rim without issue - that's what my old Fatback has been running for the past year.

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    Yikes, I would literally bet $1000 that combo would not work on my "old" carbon fork, it's really close as it is. But if it works for you that's awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Yikes, I would literally bet $1000 that combo would not work on my "old" carbon fork, it's really close as it is. But if it works for you that's awesome.
    Maybe I lucked out with a straight tire and wheel; some have more wobble than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Yikes, I would literally bet $1000 that combo would not work on my "old" carbon fork, it's really close as it is. But if it works for you that's awesome.
    I was running a Bud on a 90 tubeless on the old Fatback fork as well, it was close though.
    Oh and here is a little proof
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    Also I was just curious so I went to the basement and what do you know, my bud/clownshoe also fits/spins in the old carbon fork. I'd estimate 3-4mm clearance on each side. Not a ton, but enough.

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    well, I discussed with Nick about the Carver fork...
    Carver, rake 45mm, A-C 465mm
    Fatback, rake 42mm, A-C 455mm
    He was more concerned that the rake will change the handling than the A-C.
    So I found the White Brothers fork: rake 42mm, A-C 455mm. Probably a nice fit, but it weighs 910g... which I will guess is not that much of a weight savings, since only the tube is carbon, everything else is still alum. I'll just wait...
    I got a Carver on my Fatback and it works great. Didn't notice any change in handling and it is light as heck!


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    Just checking in....

    I have had this bike now since the 1st of the year (first ride was actually 1/1) and have 11 rides on it and 250 miles. Love the bike overall but if I HAD to nitpick something, that would be the extra weight of the 2 Bud's I am running. I had been running Husker Du's prior to the Bud's, which of course are significantly lighter, and yes I realize I am talking about tires now and not the bike itself, which I love BTW. BUT, the extra weight of the tires is noticeable and if you do 3 hour rides on actual trails with any climbing at all, the extra weight does add up. My solution is to build a second (carbon) fatty, of which I already have the complete build kit for, minus the frame/fork. But back to this bike....it's pretty awesome and am glad I bought it. Can't recommend it enough. Fatback 190 XO1 Bike-20140122_172221.jpg

    I do wish the Corvus would hurry up and get here though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anortherncrazy View Post
    I got a Carver on my Fatback and it works great. Didn't notice any change in handling and it is light as heck!
    good to know. I'm waiting for the Corvus fork to land... so I'll wait a bit.

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    Received the new bike... pretty fast shipping. Build it up (actually, just re-assembled it). Added Stans to the tire and rode it around inside. Still need to adjust the fit. It weighed in right about 28lbs. it was 28.7, but I had the plastic pedals already put on. I'm guessing the cheap pedals are about .7-.8lbs. I had to use the flash to get a nice pic... so the reflective rim tape looks like LED lights... nice touch from Fatback... Their service is great and Nick answered my many questions.... Thanks.

    But, and this is the only nitpick... the 16" frame only has room for one bottle cage inside the triangle. I may try a bottle cage re-positioner...


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    Quote Originally Posted by landho View Post
    Received the new bike... pretty fast shipping. Build it up (actually, just re-assembled it). Added Stans to the tire and rode it around inside. Still need to adjust the fit. It weighed in right about 28lbs. it was 28.7, but I had the plastic pedals already put on. I'm guessing the cheap pedals are about .7-.8lbs. I had to use the flash to get a nice pic... so the reflective rim tape looks like LED lights... nice touch from Fatback... Their service is great and Nick answered my many questions.... Thanks.

    But, and this is the only nitpick... the 16" frame only has room for one bottle cage inside the triangle. I may try a bottle cage re-positioner...
    Is that the anodized black? i really like the look of it. I like that color did not have it in my size but my GREEN MACHINE is great!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I have had this bike now since the 1st of the year (first ride was actually 1/1) and have 11 rides on it and 250 miles. Love the bike overall but if I HAD to nitpick something, that would be the extra weight of the 2 Bud's I am running. I had been running Husker Du's prior to the Bud's, which of course are significantly lighter, and yes I realize I am talking about tires now and not the bike itself, which I love BTW. BUT, the extra weight of the tires is noticeable and if you do 3 hour rides on actual trails with any climbing at all, the extra weight does add up. My solution is to build a second (carbon) fatty, of which I already have the complete build kit for, minus the frame/fork. But back to this bike....it's pretty awesome and am glad I bought it. Can't recommend it enough. Click image for larger version. 

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    I do wish the Corvus would hurry up and get here though...
    Nice looking bike and no SNOW.... have not seen dirt it what seems like months here in Michigan!!!

    i have had a few 3 hour rides on mine with the Sterling tires setup tubeless and was happy they did not weight more!

    keep the photos coming.

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    Yes, It is the Anodized black color. I really like it.
    Yes, the obligatory bike in snow pic will come... but it is polar bear weather here and I don't have enough clothing for this (yet)... maybe next week. Pretty sure the snow will be around... and I really want to ride this on the area's frozen lakes...

    and outside now.
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    Fatback 190 XO1 Bike

    Quote Originally Posted by landho View Post
    good to know. I'm waiting for the Corvus fork to land... so I'll wait a bit.
    Had that been available when I bought the bike I definitely woulda gone with that at it is a nice fork(seen one up close). Still happy with the Carver though. It's nice and snappy.


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    Yeah we got lucky this winter (or unlucky, depending on your point of view) with very little snow so far. I live in Omaha, NE. and while we don't usually get blasted, we usually have more than we got this year. I wouldn't mind a little snow, it's very good for my business, but I also don't mind a mild winter either. Although I am poorer for it, I have way more fun. Come to think of it, I think I'm poorer regardless, ever since I discovered fat biking. I'm sure you have no idea what I'm talking about right

    I took the after-noon off yesterday and did a huge ride, and had to actually layer down as the temps crossed the 50 mark. It was pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anortherncrazy View Post
    I got a Carver on my Fatback and it works great. Didn't notice any change in handling and it is light as heck!


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    I love that color and had it been available in my size, I would have gotten it Congrats on the new steed. Is this your first fat bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I love that color and had it been available in my size, I would have gotten it Congrats on the new steed. Is this your first fat bike?
    Thanks man. Love that stupid thing! Its my 2nd bike. My first was a first gen Mukluk.
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    If anyone is interested, my 20'' Orange Fatback 190 frame and both forks are for sale. I have the carbon fork which you see in earlier pics in this thread, and the matching Aluminum fork that was never used in case you want to go on an adventure somewhere (massive mounts all over to carry whatever your heart desires). I will also toss in the Syntace P6 Hi-Flex seat post ($200 post) that you see in the pics. Post itself is 30.9, and the new Fatback's (this one included) take 31.6, but I have the problem solver reducer shim currently in it and it works great. No slippage what-so-ever, no creaks or squeaks at all. Easy to adjust, and makes a HUGE ride difference. If you were to buy all this from Fatback you'd pay $995 for frame, $240 for aluminum fork, $200 for the carbon fork, and of course I am throwing in the $200 seat post as well. I will ship all of this to your door for $975. Not sure if this violates board rules, and if it does please take it down and accept my apologies. If not, you can contact me at camrymadone@Hotmail.com with any ?'s. Thanks.

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    Good job! FATBACK at the LUMBERJACK 100

    The bike was great to ride and handled the trail great.

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