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    Fat Biking and health

    I am starting this thread to allow some of us a way to share our rides and the benefits we gain from our rides healthwise. I am a 62 yr old cyclist that has weighjt and health issues. I ride a bout six days a week on local bike paths and trails . I have congestive heart failure (chf), diabetes type 2 and arthritis. When I first got back into cycling I weighed 329 lbs. Currently (3 months later) I am down to 289 lbs and My health has shown marked improvement. My bike that I ride currently is a Mongoose Dolomite. I used to ride a Marlin singlespeed but I need more a wider range of gears for my arthritic knees. Being on a fixed income I couldn't afford an expensive fat bike so I swallowed my pride and bought a big box store bike.

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    Welcome OB52

    Sounds like you are having fun and getting healthy, an awesome combo !

    Fat bikes ironically have the opposite effect on their riders ....... they also lead to over developed 'smile' muscles

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    We have found that If we ride one to two hours we recover quickly compared to some of the one hour rides we did on 26" x 2,0" hardtails. We ride three different trails that our in our area. All have varying difficulties.
    My background in cycling in the dirt goes back to The Mid 60's when our subdivision near Chicago Illinois had some undeveloped tracts of land. like a lot of guys in the era we used bikes to get around and while most of them used 20" bike I decided to try an old Phantom. Fast forward to 1983. I discovered Mt. Bikes and I was hooked.
    I have ridden ever since except for two years after om first heart attack. I have found that riding helps me recover much faster now. My recovery after a ride takes fifteen to twenty minutes. -and my resting heart rate is around 56-60 bpm compared to 75-78 bpm.

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    Way to go old bear. I'm an old guy too. Biking, along with healthy eating, is a great way to get back in shape. Good luck reaching your goals. If that's all you can afford, ride that dolomite with pride and give yourself credit for getting off the couch.
    Veni vidi velo!

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    I hope to keep riding in my 60s like you. Keep it up!

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    Thanks Guys for all the encouragement! I just checked my blood pressure and pulse rate and at three in the morning it is 115/67 rate is 54. The reason I'm up so early is that my hand is throbbing. I have a pacemaker/defibulator unit in my chest and it misread my heart the rhythm of my heart and went off Monday, putting me in the hospital until 4pm Tuesday. seems I have an infection where the IV was pulled out. So I just soaked the hand in hot5 water and now the throbbing is subsiding. the neat thing is that with my new bike I don't feel the pain as much when I ride.
    Adventure Rider; you will discover that no matter how old you are never to old to ride. My great uncle rode until he was 83. He raced in the 'old days' 1911 to 1925 on an old BSA fixed gear bike with no brakes! he was doing the Olympic trials back in the 20's and got the flu and missed his chance. could true wheel just by spinning them in his hands. He is the reason I ride today. He helped me strip down my '47 Schwinn and even put a 20's Brooks saddle on it. My sister has his 1913 BSA road bike with wheels he built6 and She doesn't know what to do with it. All it needs is a good cleaning and new tires. the only reason he quit riding because the streets in Chicago were getting a little hairy. Annnd i bet if he was alive today he'd be riding a Fat Bike.

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    40 lbs in 3 months is an incredible accomplishment!!! Keep up the hard work and keep us updated!!

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    Thanks thunderzy!
    Due to the fact that I have some restrictions due to to hot and cold temperatures, (no riding outside above 93 and below 25 before wind chill).I was wondering if anyone has heard of a wind trainer that could fir the Dolomite's tire? I wan to use the same tire and gearing indoors as I use outdoors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    We went riding at 6:30am and put in around four miles on a trail close to the house. my pulse before riding was 59 and my blood pressure was 112/78. at midpoint the heart rate had hit 110 and blood pressure was 130/85 after a half hour of rest my puilse was 60 and the blood pressure was 114/79.
    I am pleasantly surprised bny my recovery rate.

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    That's great! Keep on riding!

    I had to take a physical couple years ago, Doc said "whatever you are doing, just keep doing it!"

    ......sweet.....mountain biking & drinking beer. check! lol. Amazing what regular rides will do for your body. Not only physical though, but mentally as well. My stress levels drop significantly after a good ride. No worries about the usual junk like work & stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ...Due to the fact that I have some restrictions due to to hot and cold temperatures, (no riding outside above 93 and below 25 before wind chill)....
    I'm curious about those restrictions and the reason for them.

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    alphazz- Only about 45% of my heart beats unassisted. the rest is supporte0d by pacemaker. I was told that extremes of any outside temperature can adversely affect my Pacemaker/defib unit. What I have is referred to "left ventricular bundle damage". Right now we are having weather that is unusually cool for Missouri. the current temperature is 77. The usual temperature is around 80 to 90. It's nicve now but next week we go back into the 90's. So my rides will be early morning or just before sunset.

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    Beer, it does afat biker good

    Shark- Beer is good but unfortunately I have to drink non alcoholic beer. My daughter buys me some and a sixer of bud light for her. I am on so much meds that I can't run the risk of alcohol and drug interaction. lol. Annnnd my biggest worry is makling sure my wife takes her meds. I retired from the radio broadcast industry and now just tinker with our bikes and feed the cats.

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    Good job, oldbear52! I am a few years older than you, with a degenerative joint problem in my hip. My doctor told me to go out and ride to the limits of my pain threshold. He said, "You can't make it worse, unless you fall." I ride three or four times a week, and darned if my hip doesn't feel better after a ride. Fat biking is the fountain of youth!

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    joint problems.

    I too have some joint problems, Mainly my knees and lower back. riding keeps my knees nimble and the upright position of the Dolomite keeps the back pain to a minimum. I used to wear a back brace but as I went down in weight, my heaviest was 345, the need for support disappeared. Plus my Doctor took me off some meds that caused all that weight gain. I was on some anti depressant meds that pile on the weight because it caused me to eat more plus my diet was high in fat. Now we have teflon pans and we use no oil to cook. Eating sensibly really helps. I even cut refined flour and sugar from my diet. We use stevia and when a recipe calls for it raw sugar SPARINGLY. My usual after ride snack is a healthy granola bar and smart water. I do cheat sometiomes and bring along some dark chocolate and peanuts. We usually have a glass of whole milk after the ride or if I can find it Goats milk.

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    I said whole milk because I was raised on raw milk from a farm near our house and I just love the taste. Besides I read in a Goat keeping book that when raw milk goes through pasturization and homoginzationn it releases a substance harmful to the heart. Besides 1% or skim milk tastes like chalk water to me.

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    Re: Fat Biking and health

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    Shark- Beer is good but unfortunately I have to drink non alcoholic beer. My daughter buys me some and a sixer of bud light for her. I am on so much meds that I can't run the risk of alcohol and drug interaction. lol. Annnnd my biggest worry is makling sure my wife takes her meds. I retired from the radio broadcast industry and now just tinker with our bikes and feed the cats.
    All I can say is keep riding when you can. You might want to look into juicing vegetables and fruits. There is a good documentary on Joe cross you might want to watch:

    http://www.rebootwithjoe.com. He used this mean green juice recipe..

    http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/mean-green-juice/

    Ask your doc first though of course. Just something that kind of worked for me for losing some pounds. I just juice once a day though I never tried a juice fast.

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    Great job, keep it up!
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    Nice thread! I was about to ask something similar. I was about to ask if "fat bikes would be okay for persons over 50." I guess now I have my answer. Thanks!

    I have an uncle, used to ride a lot when he was in his 30's... now he's 51, and is sometimes suffering from arthritis. I persuaded him to try out biking again... but seeing that he now lives outside of the city, where there's more dirt roads than paved ones, I thought that a fat bike would be ideal (instead of a regular mtb). So 2 weeks ago, he tried out a surly pugsley, and he was smiling all over the whole day.

    He's now planning to buy his first fat bike. Just undecided at the moment if its going to be steel or aluminum for the frame. (for some reason... he doesn't like carbon).


    cheers!

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    Diffy- At 62 I find that my Fat Bike Rides just as easy as the bikes I rode as a preteen. After you get the psi down to a happy medium to cover the type of terrain you are going to ride. My Dolo seems to function best at 8 to 10 psi on our trails. I think your uncle should enjoy the extra 'cushioning' effect the big tires provide. We have a small compressor that operates off the truck battery and fills the tires pretty quick when I need to go up for pavement. This morning we rode from 6am to 8am and I found all my stats are holding . and my weight is steady at 288. So encourage your uncle to go fat he won't regret is. I enjoy the family aspect of the rides.

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    Reminds me to get out for a pre dawn ride Sunday, for many of the above reasons; good for what ails you.
    "Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway" John Wayne

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    My ride this morning was at a series of trails in the next town over. We rode on some moderate trails staying away from a black diamond that is loaded with rock gardens. My bp at the start was 110/77 and heart rate was 65. mid way my heart rate hit 127 and we couldn't check the bp as we travel 'light'. post ride my bp was 126/79 and recovery heart rate was 80. twenty five minutes later It was back down to 65. had a celebratory meal of bananas over cheerios with some goat milk from a friends herd. annnd I had an eight ounce glass for it to treat myself. My son from Jefferson city is coming down tonight and we plan on taking him on an easy ride on the Lion's club trail. He is 27 and is 'inheriting' my Trek Marlin SS. He wants it to ride to and from work and on trails at Binder Lake. He just quit smoking and tried running to work but his knees can't take it.

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    By 'traveling light ' We carry the bare minimum to keep us moving and a home blood pressure machine is like a luxury. We carry an extra tube, tire irons, small crescent wrench, and a small first aid kit, for hydration we carry a Camelback 70oz pack that doubles for a pack to carry our stuff. on the bike we carry 24oz waterbottles in a alloy cage. We also carry granola bars in case on of us hits 'the wall'. Around town, like for shopping trips, we ditch the pack in favor of the bottle and we have a trailer I bought years ago for $75 at a shop in Utah. we use 26" tires and it has a capacity of 100#. We are beginning to do most of our grocery shopping on a bike. My wife who is disabled rides in her power wheelchair and I ride with her on my Fat Bike. We used our bikes as our primary means of transport when we lived in Price Utah in the early 90's. It was something to see us go to the grocery store. all six of us. My wife on her diamondback, me on my gt, my daughter on her bridgestone, my Middle son on his haro bmx and the other two boys iin the trailer.

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    Just got back from 45 minutes of riding fun. My son came down and picked up the Trek. Then my sister stopped by on her way to Branson and brought me a present the 1913 BSA. I aired up the tires on the steel wheels and rode it around the parking lot. I measured the wheelbase and found it to be 45". it looks long and low compared to a road bike of today. As soon as I find some reproduction sewups it is going to get a good cleaning and will be placed on display in the living room along with the Schwinn Phantom klunker. That means we have to store at least two bikes. That BSA is a piece of cycling art and History. I even got his wool knickers, sweater with the Humbolt Park Cycling Club patch,cap and shoes. I twill be a family memorial to my great uncle and the man that continues to influence me from heaven. I will post sopme pics of that bike as soon as I clean it up. And not only that my brother-in-law who is an avid cyclist too, rode the Dolomite and wants a fatbike too. It's an addiction I love to spread.

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    Hi Fat Bikers!!
    I am new to the forum and new to Fat Tire Biking! I've been Fat Biking in NYC - Manhattan, for nearly two months now. I must tell you that my Fat Bike is Transforming my body!! For over 20 years, my pants waist size has been 36W. My waist is now size 32W. I am blown away. I have had Male Fat Belly Syndrome since I was in my late 30s. I just turned 49 last week and my belly is disappearing. Those fat rolls in my back are no longer rolls. My shirts hang differently now in the front. Last night, I was laying all over my couch watching TV. Wanting to change the channel, I had to raise up a bit to reach the remote control on the coffee table over there....as I raised up my left leg to thrust myself up into a sitting position, I saw all kinds of muscles jump out of my leg that I do not remember seeing there before. I was blown away. Living in NYC, I generally take subways everywhere. In my neighborhood, the subway is elevated and there are three sets of stairs I have to climb to get to the subway platform. Usually, that last set of stairs has me cussing under my breaths because my legs are burning and screaming at me at the same time. At the top of the stairs, I'm usually huffing and puffing like I sprinted a marathon or something. Yesterday, I ran up all three flights of the stairs nonstop, two steps at a time. Once I got to the top, no huffing....no puffing and my legs acted like nothing was going on. I was blown away. This Fat Tire Bike is Transforming my body!! I do not know if I would have achieved the same results had I just bought one of them skinny tire, urban bikes like my LBS was encouraging me to do....maybe....But this Fat Bike is doing stuff to me and I like it!! Did I mention that I am experiencing noticeable changes in my endurance and stamina too? I am blown away.
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    Phil:
    Welcome to the thread! sounds like you are progressing nicely. Keep it up! Seems that Fat Biking isn't just for the young. I hope you keep an eye on that bike. lol
    My doctor this week took me off any oxygen even as an emergency measure. My 02 level holds steady at 98% It only drops two percent when I am riding. (I bought a 02 pulse meter. ) But running up three flights of stairs sounds excellent! And your waist size is a good sign too. Just keep up the good work and ejoy your bike.

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    Thank you oldbear52. I'm so glad I decided on riding a Fat Bike. There are so few of them in Manhattan that I now feel like a Fat Tire Bike Ambassador. I use my bike mainly to commute to and from work. The ride generally takes me 1 hour to complete. I am discovering that I have to leave at least 30 minutes earlier to get anywhere....not because my Fat Bike isn't a "fast bike", but because people stop me to ask all kinds of questions about the bike. Thanks for your encouragement! Just this week, I've added 30 seconds of planking, 10 reps of squatting and 1 rep of 10 push ups prior to getting on my bike. I'm going to do that for one month and then see what my body is going to do in response to it!
    I'm very glad to be apart of this forum and it is so GREAT to read the experiences of other Fat Bikers! I hope that you will Fat Bike your way to fantastic health!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Diffy- At 62 I find that my Fat Bike Rides just as easy as the bikes I rode as a preteen. After you get the psi down to a happy medium to cover the type of terrain you are going to ride. My Dolo seems to function best at 8 to 10 psi on our trails. I think your uncle should enjoy the extra 'cushioning' effect the big tires provide. We have a small compressor that operates off the truck battery and fills the tires pretty quick when I need to go up for pavement. This morning we rode from 6am to 8am and I found all my stats are holding . and my weight is steady at 288. So encourage your uncle to go fat he won't regret is. I enjoy the family aspect of the rides.
    Good to know... that's very inspiring.
    I'll pass this on to my uncle, it will solidify his decision to go fat, thanks!


    cheers!

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    Getting a second fat bike!

    I wound up giving my son from Jefferson City my Dolomite instead of the Trek. My wife says I can spend up to 699 on a new bike so for now I am going to resort to riding the trek until the first so I can order a new one from bikes direct. . I decided on a Gravity Bullseye monster. I am getting so involved in a healthy recreation 'pastime' and it shows. It is weird riding the Trek since for the past month I have mainly ridden fatire. I hope to keep you all posted, Morning ride: 6:30am to 8am. My distance was 4.5 miles and It was beautiful. Went to a dinner last night at a friends house and climbed up three flights of stairs without tiring. Riding a fat bike makes a big difference.

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    Went out to get soda with my daughter. I rode the Trek but it isbn't the same as a Fatbike. I just can't wait until the first. lol. We rode around on the paved bike path to go to the store and while yet is was easier to pedal It didn't turn any heads. My bp at the start was 112/68 heart rate 68. when we got to the store I checked my heart rate it was 100. When we got home the bp was 122/88 heart rate 79. weighed myself and found I was holding at 288.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Another week and another two pounds!

    I went to the cardiologist this morning and found out that my weight has dropped to 86 pounds and that my oxygen level in my blood sits steady at 98%. Today is a 'rest' day, so took an easy ride around the neighborhood with my handicapped son. Maybe fifteen minutes saddle time and a lot of stops to say Hi to the neighbors and pet their dogs. One even asked where my other bike was. He is interested in a fat bike. He is 67 and a retired state trooper. ride putters around on an urban bike and wanted to try the trek. i let him and then the daughter showed up on her dolo and he tooled around the street and says he is going to get a fatty! I told him about bikes direct and he said he'll look them up. His wife rode the dolo too and said that they need to replace thier old beach cruisers anyway. So soon there will be two more 'converts' to the gospel of fatness!

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    I can see how the fat bike helps with weight loss. I too have the mongo dolo. You have to work harder on that bike. Only ridden it twice thus far. Can' ride again until I substantially change handle bar geometry. Then a lot of weight will betaken off my wrists. And it doen' feel good looking up while I am riding either. I look forward to the ride once that is fixed. Continue your great work!

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    Changing the cockpit

    Steve: have you conidered changing bars? something a little more backlswept with a little more rise? It may solve your problem. Maybe some one else a little more informed on physiology and cycling could weigh in here. I am thinking on my new bike of adding some sort of bar-ends. Got them on the Trek and the ability to change hand positions really helps my neck.I have osteo-arthritis in my neck and shoulders. I know Bar-ends are ols school and some might say outmoded but to each their own. Keep on riding everyone!

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    I recently bought myself a Dolomite to have some fun with while I'm getting rid of a few pounds.
    I'm not comfortable with the stock geometry. The bars are lower than I like. (I've grown top heavy and have become less flexible)
    So I ordered a trekking bar,
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    I got a stem raiser and short adjustable stem on the way fro amazon. Along with the stock stem this should open up a large variety of bars, including the stock bar. I should be able to ride it in better comfort until I figure out what bar will be best for me. This adjustability will allow many different choices

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    too darn hot

    I slept in this morning and have been rewarded with as no ride day It is 95 with a heat index of 105. maybe tonight. A city ride at dusk. I want the cooler weather to come back!
    Steve: I hope you get your parts soon. I got a phone call from my son< seems his boss wants a Fat Bike! The boss wants to buy David's bike but he won't sell. David Just might sell after he saves enough to get another bike. (possible Gravity Bullseye Monster). I also had a call from my Cardiologist .seems on August 12th they are going to replace my pacemaker battery. That means I have to find a stationary bike or not ride for a week because my left arm will be in a sling. so no t5rails for a week. Maybe I can ride around town?

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    Another Neighbor stopped by to chat and see If I would fix his Huffy 'Mtn Bike'. He needed some minor adjustments and to have it set up properly, if possible, so he could ride better. He notice my trek and had seen the dolo and asked what I paid for them. He said 'whoa that's way too much!'. then I went on comparing my Trek to his BSO. He was open and listened closely and still wouldn't believe the Trek was worth more than his. "mine was only $99 and gots more gears" he stated. He had bought some old Salsa barends at a yard sale and wanted me to install them for him. I put them on and then he said, "no I want them straight up!" I tried to explain that they were not supposed to be like that. I would up trading his an old pair of Bontragers I had because " the Salas's weren't shiny enough"> So I procured the Salas for my new bike and he went out and rode in the heat. Later he asked me if I could install 'ten speed' handle bars so he could ride more upright. I told him no. Thje I looked at his thirty year old girls Huffy and saw that the handle bars were flipped up and all the cables were stretched beyond repair. I told him that they were worthless and that he'd be better oiff leaving it alone. Which he finally agreed on. Tonight he's joining us on our exploration of the bike path the snakes through town. Maybe I will let him ride my son Sean's Beast and maybe that will convince him to get a newer bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Steve: have you conidered changing bars? something a little more backlswept with a little more rise? It may solve your problem. Maybe some one else a little more informed on physiology and cycling could weigh in here. I am thinking on my new bike of adding some sort of bar-ends. Got them on the Trek and the ability to change hand positions really helps my neck.I have osteo-arthritis in my neck and shoulders. I know Bar-ends are ols school and some might say outmoded but to each their own. Keep on riding everyone!
    . OldBear. Plan on new bars after I see what geometry the new parts will provide. I am not tall. With the seat at proper height bars too low. Strains old parts. I think that stem raiser and the short adjustable stem will allow me to look at a lot. I can reverse the stem and maybe even use the stock bars withe the raiser.

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    Also looking forward to new on ones in August. Decreased weight, I hope, will be amazing.

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    Twilight ride.

    I went out tonight and rode a bit of the bikepath here for fortyfive minutes. My daughter loaned the neighbor her dolomite and I rode my trek. my daughter rode her trek and bringing up the rear, at least for the first lap was Sean, on his beast. We went pretty eaasy and the neighbor ju8ust kept saying "wow, this rides different!" My heart rate got up to 110 and I fel;t fine. at home my blood pressure after a gool down was 102/62. annnd no pain. My daughter didn't even go for her after ride smoke. twenty minutes after the ride My heart rate was 61. Not bad recovery for an old Clydesdale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Thanks thunderzy!
    I was wondering if anyone has heard of a wind trainer that could fir the Dolomite's tire? I wan to use the same tire and gearing indoors as I use outdoors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    I used wind trainers until I was able to convince my wife to gift me a kreitler 4.5 with headwind attachment. I will never use a wind trainer again. Rollers are better trainers as they improve your balance and ability to hold a line, and they are super convenient as there's no setting up the bike each time you want to use them, you just put the bike on and go.

    Kreitler is super not cheap, but there are other brands like TACX, Cyclops, Minoura, Elite, Nashbar, Travel trac, etc, that have models as low as $150. There are also DIY instructables using PVC pipe.

    Being that you're using a fatbike, you might be more interested in a LOG ROLLER, which is apparently a thing. You have to add the word fatbike to google that.
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    [QUOTE=Flamingtaco;11340970]I used wind trainers until I was able to convince my wife to gift me a kreitler 4.5 with headwind attachment. I will never use a wind trainer again. Rollers are better trainers as they improve your balance and ability to hold a line, and they are super convenient as there's no setting up the bike each time you want to use them, you just put the bike on a
    Kreitler is super not cheap, but there are other brands like TACX, Cyclops, Minoura, Elite, Nashbar, Travel trac, etc, that have models as low as $150. There are also DIY instructables using PVC pipe.

    Being that you're using a fatbike, you might be more interested in a LOG ROLLER, which is apparently a thing. You have to add the word fatbike to google that.[/QUote}
    Flamingtaco: I haven't been on rollers since the 70's when I was a road racer in the Chicago area. But that might serve me well.

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    Found used rollers

    I found a set of older rollers for $75. It even has a rest to put the fork into so I won't have to worry about my balance. the only thing it I need to modify the bracket to fit the wider for. Thank goodness I have a friend who has access to the university's machine shop.
    On the ride front, we went out from 6:30 to 9 this morning on a trail in the nat'l forest. And I even looked for a campsite so we could go fishing and enjoy a day or two in the woods. found one on a bank of the creek so we can catch our dinner. (rainbow trout). I check my bp immediately after the ride and my heart rate and the results were good. 112/80 heart rate 80. Pretty good. However I do miss my fat bike. Had to push my 29er ss through some gravel that my daughter rode over on her dolomite. Luckily I didn't have the trailer with that would have made it impossible to go through the garvel towed by the Trek.

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    Hi Ho Neighborinos!

    Beautiful day here in the Ozarks. Just got in from the Kaintuck hollow Trails. did a complete loop with the daughter and a friend who insisted that his sears 'mtn bike" BSO, could keep up with us. this fellow uses a womens bike that has really seen better days.he carried a patch kit with him and strapped a bell floor pump on the rear rack. His bile weighed in probably just shy of sixty pounds. I was on my trek Marlin 29er single speed and my daughter rode her dolomite. We had to stop four times for hime to patch his dry rotted tires and for him to catch his breath. Finally I handed him my tube and a spare presta adapter. He wanted to see the creek and had to carry his bike through a crossing and across a sand bar. We rode across the crossing and I walked about half the sandbar. Even on wet sand our bikes were ridden. He has old I mean old skinny tire 26" X 1.75" which were OK on hardpack but got really squirrely on the technical stuff. My bp post ride: 123/68 heart rate 70. BTW He said he won't ride with us again.

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    I generally feel healther then everyone around me. I kind of contribute that to my riding. I keep hearing people sigh and sound stressed out. Im just relaxed after a ride and usually good for a day or two depending on how hard I ride. It takes the stress out and is mentally toughening too. When you push yourself harder or to go bigger. The mental effect is huge

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    Sounds like you've found the fountain of youth oldbear52.

    I dropped from 335 lbs to 165 over the last couple of years. Cycling has made a huge difference, though haven't gotten a fat bike yet. Picking one up this fall though, can't take another Minnesota winter where I can't ride for months at a time.

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    335 > 165?!! Damn that's amazing. Heh, I dropped 9 pounds after getting my fatty but as my fitness levels got better and I got stronger I replaced it with muscle. I'm climbing things I've never been able to clean before and my average speed has nearly doubled on most of my rides over last year. Now if I could figure out how to breathe better and didn't have to stop to recover at the top of those climbs I'd be all set. I stopped smoking 15 months ago but still feeling the effects...

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    Congrats to you gravity and thanks for the kudos...been a journey for sure. The fear, of course, is backsliding....so easy to slip back into old habits. I probably need to add more muscle and the cycling is helping with that and that's why I'm really wanting to get something for our long winters. Been haunting the forums here looking for advice...hope there are some reps and trial opportunities at Tour De Fat here this weekend.

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    Hi Everyone. glad to see so many newcomers to the thread. I just got weighed today at the clinic. 284lbs! may first I weighed 328. now almost 3 months later zi have lost 44 pounds and feel great. I don't have to walk up stairs one at a time and my oxygen content in my blood is 98%! Let me tell you hoe\w I have done this. Healthy eating, and cycling six days a week for two hours a day. The healthy eating I do is simple cut out fats and sugar and stop drinking non diet soda and tea. I keep water in the fridge and carry two water bottles. My snacks consist of fruits and baked chips. On the trail I eat granola bars and Jerky, ( a guilty pleasure). I allow myself one bowl of no sugar added ice cream a night and eat popcorn. I allow myself two non alcoholic beers a week and no wine. Today we rode two laps of Kaintuck Hollow loop and spent an hour fishing. caught four nice rainbows that we ate for dinner. served with oven baked steak fries and salad. so all of you keep riding. and get healthy.

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    It's great to see others using the fun of cycling to keep us healthy. As I get older, just the dynamics of balance alone has its challenges, and riding on two wheels helps improve psychological balance, too. I'm happy to see that you are using cycling to lose weight, too. Keep up the pumping!

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    I just read through the entire thread. Awesome to see so much enthusiasm for riding and the Fatties. Keep it going!
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    Good morning all!

    I just got back from an early morning ride through the Lion's Club Trails spent a little over an hour in the saddle and we are going to St. James this evening to ride the trails over there. BP 120/80 Resting heart rate 60. Six days until I can order my new bike. I am anxious to get it and see how well I can rid eit. I am getting a Bikes Direct bike a gravity Bullseye Monster.

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    Another sunny day here in the Ozarks. Spent the day fishing and biking with my daughter. I really feel so much better now that the weight is starting to go. Rode some excellent singletrack and fireroads near the creek. I have begun a regimen of drinking a f4ruiiy smoothie before the ride and eating oatmeal instead of eggs. I had my daughter tow the trailer to our campsite and chained it to a tree so we could ride awhile before fishing. My heart rate was 72 bpm and went up to 100 during the ride. We rode up a decent track that probably started out as a fisherman's foot path. then it went over a long gravel bar that I had to walk my bike. We ate a trout apiece and headed home to cook two more for my wife and son. I am getting anxious for the first. then wait for 7 days and I begin to ride a fat bike again.

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    Oldbear, your posts are an inspiration to read. Keep on posting and I really hope you ride the crap out of your new bike. My 70 year old father rode my Minnesota 2.0 and loved it. I am considering buying a Night Train Bullet and giving my bike to him. If it keeps him active, then it is money well spent.

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    Thanks Galen

    Thanks Galen. I sort of use this thread to be my blog sort of. I am not that computer savy. My 9overall goal is inspire others to get off the couch and paved pathways into the dirt and better health. I hope you encourage your Dad and get him riding, because you are never to old to ride a bike. when I was 12 I used to cut grass in the next town over and rode a klunker to and from the jobs. It was in 1964. and I found that bike in a neighbor's trash. I rode it because I preferred it to a Schwinn 3 speed traveler my dad bought me earlier that summer. DFast forward 52 years later and I am still pedaling.

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    You have truly inspired me and many others.
    Fat biking is one of the most entertaining ways to increase physical and mental fitness.
    I finally installed a few comfort items to my Dolo to give a more upright ride.
    I appreciate your motivation/inspiration.
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    My ride is a lot more comfortable now.
    There is noticeably less stress on my shoulders and lower back now.

    Keep up the good work and thank you.

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    Lbs bs

    My daughter and I went to another town to ride a rails to trails bike trail , the KATY to see what they has. I mentioned that I was getting a fat bike this month and the fella working there said fat bikes are just for winter and a big fad. I noticed that there were plenty of them (at least eight) on the KATY and told him they were a good all around bike for the money. He said he would only order tires and tubes on a as need basis and then he'd mark them way up. I left the store although I wanted to buy a pedal wrench he had in stock.
    Needless to say I left his store. We went back to the katy and rode 10 miles more Having a great time. I am ordering my Gravity Bullseye Monster Friday and then by next week it should be here I stopped at a friends ho8use and had lunch and they have a precision scale and I weighed myself, 283 is my current weight! By December I should be down to 200. My goal weight is 195. I want to thank everyone for ntheir kind comments. They make me want to write even more.



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    B y the way the Miyata 710 is a 1976.

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    I'm Back!

    I'm sorry I haven't posted for awhile. I have been Offline for almost a month due to the fact I had surgery to replace my pacemaker. Band I also had no way to access the web. Got my new fat bike on July 5th and it's a Gravity Bullseye monster. I have been riding it everyday except for three days after my surgery on the on July 6. I am down to 282 lbs and I have been able to tackle some substantial hills to and from the trials at Lion's Club Park. I average 12 to 20 miles a day. My ride today was on a paved bike path here in town. My bp was 112/87 and my heartrate was 60 before the ride. mid point my heartrate went up to 110 and I felt pretty good. I checked my bp after the ride and it was 125/90 heart rate 60.

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    One big difference is I don't fall and get hurt like I do on skinny tires. Matters more as we age (53 here).
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    Good afternoon all! Just got in from riding Lion's club trails and doing some light shopping. (had to pick up Ice cream and brownie mix) I rode two laps and then headed to krogers for the stuff. We rode a total of twelve miles today and my bp only went up slightly 125/89 heart rate 112. my Monster rides like a dream. I just might change the cassette in t6he rear to one a little more compatible to the hills we take on the way to the trailhead.

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    The waiting game.

    It rained last ni8ght and early this morning here and I slept in until ten. . Visited friends and rode the Acorn Trail here in town. I will go to the cardiologist tomorrow to check on the pacemaker and get refills on my meds. My weight is now 281 and I feel good. We are playing the waiting game until the Lion's Club Park Trail dry out a bit more. I rode with some friends from a mosque and they all want fatbikes to take home to Saudi.Seems that they all bought Mongeese at wallyworld and a couple of them needed work. I was surprised how well the guys rode on them, Got the original wheels for the 1913 qnd some tires that were in my Dad's garage they are goodyear tires and are about 100 years old the bike hangs in the living room on a rack all cleaned up. The tires were wrapped in oilcloth and suffered minor rot. I hope to post pictures of the bikes soon.

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    A short absence again

    I have been remiss in not posting, but I want to remedy that.
    We have been buy riding almost every day even in the heat. I now ride two laps around the trails at Lion's Club Park. Todays ride included some 'speed work', I tried intervals on a fat bike, lol.
    My BP at the start was 114/88 heart rate 60. After the two and a half hour session my bp was 126/89 with a resting heart rate of 65.
    The weather here in south central Missouri has begun to cool today it only hit around 78 and cleared off during the afternoon,

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    More weight loss

    :Been to the doctor and my weight is now 278 and my oxygen level is up from 94 to 97 percent. Went for an early morning ride on a bike path then hit the trails about 10am, My heartrate hit 90 and when I got home after twenty minutes the rate was 56. I am amazed at what a couple of months of riding have done. I plan on getting a computer that I can use to not only keep track of milage but also record my heartrate and cadence. any body have any suggestions?I want to spend around $75 . We are planning to head to Sedona this winter if Beth can get the time off. I have seen pictures of the area and it rivals Moab. Althjough I love Moab and want to retire there. We used to live in Utah and at least once a month traveled to Moab during the Spring, early summer and fall. We haven't been there since '95 as we were working at a radio station as DJ's and Managers. At that time I had an old stumpjumper and would ride on the dirt roads surrounding the station. The station was off grid. (solar powered with propane generator back up.) It was in the SE missouri Ozarks and there was plenty of hills to conquer. If I had my fatbike back then I would have been using it to go hunting and fishing and snow riding.

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    Cataracts and surgery.

    [I][/I Went to the eye doctor today to see about getting glasses. He examined my eyes and foung a large cataract.. Going to have surgery in November. Until then I will have to use reading glasses to read. I have trepidation about this and worry it will take me off my bike for a long time.
    I did ride today after the rain quit. rode out to Dolittle to see my daughter at work. 16 miles round trip. The trails were too muddy to ride so I rode on pavement. I had a nice sandwhich with her and met her boss. I found that the Gravity Bullseye Monster does handle exceptionally well on pavement especially down hill.
    My BP this morning was 114/72 on the beginning of the ride with a heart rate of 65. I checked when I finally got home was 128/82 with a resting heart rate of 60.

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    No worries on the cataract surgery. I had both eyes done ten years ago. Down time for each was only a couple days. As far as the reading glasses get used to them as the surgery will keep your overall vision for you but there is a compromise as they replace your eyes lens with a plastic one that is basically a contac and has a set numerical reading. I.E. It does not adjust like your natural lenze when your eye tries to focus at different distances. They usually give you a lenze some where in the middle distance vision field for overall good vision but reading glasses are usually a must.

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    Cataracts and surgery pt 2

    Gcappy: Thank you for your input. I had a friend that had cataracts removed and he has reading glasses and a pair to correct the other eye.
    Today I rode a lot around town. Had to go to the real estate office to add my son to the lease and then to pick up meds. I also visited the LBS to look at the Trek Farley they have there. It is the rigid model and it looks nice, but, almost 3k I just couldn't justify getting one unless I won the Powerball. LOL. I am riding better every time I got out. My cardiologist say that all the exercise shows in that I am getting muscle tone in my legs and my belly and neck are starting to shrink. I was even told by my wife that my face looks thinner. I sure do Feel much better. I rode the acorn trail today for two hours, It is paved and fairly flat . I really am hoping that the Lion's Club Trails dry out. Today was cooler and it felt like fall. It only hit around 70 today and tomorrow promises to be almost the same. I am getting anxious for fall to come. I am ready for cooler weather and changing colors. These Ozark hill only have color for about two weeks and the there is a bite in the air that requires tights and sweats and knit wool jerseys for riding. I even got beanie for inside the helmet. I will increase time in the saddle this week and maybe ride over to St. James to ride series of mtn bike trails over there. We haven't been to the Kaintuck trails lately because of my daughters work but maybe next thursday we'll go to check out the fishing. I also want to got to Steeleville to ride some trails there. There is a hiking/biking trails over there. I am searching for winter specific cycling clothes so when the first snow hits I will be ready to ride.
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    Finally, some Kaintuck time.

    It was a little chilly here today and my daughter stopped by to take me out for some trail time there were too many people on Lion's Club, so we headed out to Kaintuck and rode for about three hours. I bought a Oxygen sensor that also tells me my heart rate. My o2 level at the start was 98% and my hjeart rate was 62. at midpoint, my o2 was 96% and my heart rate was 95. and then at the end my o2 was95% and heart rate of 98. After we got ho0me I tested again and my o2 was 98 and my heart rate dropped to 64. I am getting stronger on the climbs and don't stand up to gain 'altitude'. Here in the Ozarks our climbs can go long and gradual or be short and brutal. we get a mixt5ure out by Kaintuck. I also get some climbing when I ride around town The area has some serious climbing especially if you ride south on RTte 63. I wouldn't try riding the road that way because there's lots of traffic and it seems even in bright green clothing you are invisible. I hope you all enjoy reading this as I do enjoy relating my riding experience with you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ...I bought a Oxygen sensor that also tells me my heart rate....
    Tell me more about the oxygen sensor please. I haven't heard of those for cycling. Could be useful for monitoring training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Tell me more about the oxygen sensor please. I haven't heard of those for cycling. Could be useful for monitoring training.

    Velobike: My visiting nurse found me one and It was worn out. I looked at our local pharmacy and they had one for around 30 usd. It is small and fit ion a pocket. It reads your O2 level and pulse, (heart rate) by being placed on a finger. I have COPD and congestive heart failure and need to monitor blood pressure, Pulse , and O2 levels on a daily basis. PEACE AND FREEDOM FOR SCOTLAND, Fred

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    Ride of the day 9-14-14

    Just got back from my daily ride. My bp is 146/84 and pulse is 81. Nice and cool 69 degrees and overcast. I rode out to LIon's club park and rode the trails , I found a center place that feels great. I got into a inner rythm and I rode two laps and even got up to a nice speed in the straights. I guess it takes time to recover some on bike skills and actually find some peace like I used to fifteen years ago. I was able to concentrate and not worry in the least about the bike. When I got my fatty I used to worry that it would self destruct like the wheels on my dolomite started to do. Mind you I don't ride like some of the reg mtn bikers do, I just ride at my own pace. I am looking forward to going to the Kaintuick next Thursday to ride and do some fishing. One of these days I hope to ride to Kaintuck and spend the night in the woods. I want to do this before the fall really sets in. spend a night and ride then come home. By the way my O2 level was 98 constantly during the ride and post ride. I really do hope that these posts help some folks. I haven't heard any feedback for quite some time. PEACE Fred (aka olbear52)

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    I got a mongoose beast and dolomite.

    Beast came first. I needed a way to build my knee back up after a knee injury. I was going to get a 29" mountain bike but then id have to load up the truck and drive somewhere. Our ride a cool bike after work daily which seemed healthy. Then pack on the 50 lb weight of the bike and it's a good workout. Best part is I can ride local without touching the vehicle.

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    A good workout indeed.

    ImaBum: Cycling is, at least for me, an excellent workout. Although the Dolomite is a little on the heavy side, it can provide that platform you need. I started on a Dolo. I gave it to my son and my wife allowed me to buy my current fatty a Gravity Bullseye Monster. I too ride daily. I average 12 to 15 miles and have lost twenty pounds I usually ride on trails five days a week. I also use it for light shopping and errands around town. I did the same with the Dolo. I would encourage you ti keep up the exercise. It will do you knees some good and if you have unwanted pounds they will melt away.

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    BEST EXERCISE in the WORLD ( Cycling )

    i am 45yrs of age & i have been riding sense i was 3yrs old.
    i work 3 days a week Sun Mon Tue .
    off on Wed Thur Fri Sat .
    on my work days . after work . me & wife ride 8 miles . our street that loops around in a circle is 4 miles . so we ride around it 2 times .
    on my days off we ride 40 to 60 miles around the Valley or other Cities .

    & all that on this !!!
    FatAlbert333 Ride Ride & Ride & Ride Even More !!!

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    More EXERCISE

    was riding from pier to pier back & forth from Santa Monica to Venice , in California . this is a clip from the end of the day after riding for 4hrs .

    FatAlbert333 Ride Ride & Ride & Ride Even More !!!

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    End of Day

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    Neat Looking Fatty!

    FatAlbert333: Neat looking bike! My son has a Beast and loves it. I admire what you have done with it and admire even more your dedication to cycling. My ride today was for four hours. Rode a bunch of loops on our local trail. Around six. My bike handling skills are coming back more and more every time I ride. I even did a track stand on the way home. I just can't wait to get a cycling computer to keep a record of my progress. That will come on the third. Keep on ridin'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    FatAlbert333: Neat looking bike! My son has a Beast and loves it. I admire what you have done with it and admire even more your dedication to cycling. My ride today was for four hours. Rode a bunch of loops on our local trail. Around six. My bike handling skills are coming back more and more every time I ride. I even did a track stand on the way home. I just can't wait to get a cycling computer to keep a record of my progress. That will come on the third. Keep on ridin'!
    Thanks !!! & keep on Riding yourself . Eat Healthy Too !!! ......Lot of Fruits Veggies Grains Nuts & Sea Food Too !!! ..... i have been drinking silk almond banana milk shakes since i was 5yrs of age .....Every morning i put in my pitcher of my blender = 2 bananas 2 raw eggs & almond milk filled half way & Yum Yum !!! .....You could do 1 & 1 & almond milk if You dont have any problems with Dairy ....... Latrz Gatrz & BEAST OUT !!! .....when You have a chance check out my Forum . Its Dedicated to all MONGOOSE FAT BIKES . (MONGOOSE FAT BIKES - Index ) ...... My YouTube channel Name is ( VeeDubzBugz )
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    My longest ride yet.

    Today I took my longest ride yet. Started at 9am and was gone until 6pm. I rode to St. James and did some laps on the Mtn Bike trails there. I also stopped at a church in toiwn to go to their giveaway of clothes and had a breakfast with milk, apple juice and pancakes. I also rode a piece of road out of St. James that took me back to Rolla and enjoyed all the Miles I put on.

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    ImaBum: Cycling is, at least for me, an excellent workout. Although the Dolomite is a little on the heavy side, it can provide that platform you need. I started on a Dolo. I gave it to my son and my wife allowed me to buy my current fatty a Gravity Bullseye Monster. I too ride daily. I average 12 to 15 miles and have lost twenty pounds I usually ride on trails five days a week. I also use it for light shopping and errands around town. I did the same with the Dolo. I would encourage you ti keep up the exercise. It will do you knees some good and if you have unwanted pounds they will melt away.
    Thankfully weight wise Iím spot on. Could use a few pounds if anything. But yes the bike is heavy and great workout. Which is good for me. Canít be an out of shape LEO. And pushing a 50lb bike on the daily sure does help with endurance. When I run itís like my upper body is trying to keep up with me legs. haha!

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    Way to go!

    Way to go, ImaBum! . I am proud that you are using your Dolo as a tool for fitness. There are things you can do to reduce the weight of the Dolo. Go to the Bikesdirect website and order a pair of the Mission tires and maybe change the tubes. I put a used pair of Surly Larry tires on my Dolo and it really made a difference. On my current bike I am waiting for spring for new tires. Probably go with some 45North Huskerdu's. or maybe I will get a pair for Christmas. lol As far as my own health and fitness goes I am down to 281 and my Heart doctor can see marked improvement in the muscles of my legs. I do need to get some cycling shorts with padding as the shorts I am using are basically built for swimming. (my butt gets a little sore.) I hope to get down to 200 by February. I eat sensibly and watch my salt intake and don't eat refined sugar. and watch my carbohydrate intake. I have Diabetes and Congestive Heart Failure, and monitor my vitals every time I ride. At 62 I feel like I am getting in better shape.

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    Hey thatís pretty damn good dude! Hopefully you get there. I donít see why not. Youíre a young buck that can ride so pedal on. Pedal on!

    Are you retired or limited work? I think using a bike provides a good few good outlets. Not only to provide great rewards in the health department but also allowing you to explore and see the sights and sounds around you. All while keeping you active and busy.

    I personally donít mind the weight as much. These are the first two bikes Iíve purchased/rode in roughly 15 years. So with the lack of memory of how it ďused to beĒ back in the day - the weight doesnít seem like much of an issue. Iím more of a slow go and enjoy the view kinda guy. Iím not looking for speed and enjoy pushing the weight around.

    However for my Beast I may upgrade the tires/tubes as I live in a hilly area and I enjoy riding the Beast around the neighborhood with my girl so having a little less weight to push for 5-10 miles would be a welcome.

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    'Back in the day'? lol I can remember the first Mountain bikes that came out. We owned a pair of Bianchi Grizzlies in '84. I sold a road racing bike to get. Those were traded off because I had warranty problems with the frame on min*/e.As far as my other Mountain Bikes go I have owned GT's, Redline Scott, specialized, Trek and now my gravity Bullseye Monster.

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    Retired

    ImaBum: I am a retired Radio DJ/Mechanical assembler. I retired from the broadcast iondustry in 2006 after close to 15 years on the air. I suffered my second heart attack and mini stroke in 2005 and my Doctor wanted me to tale it easy and get into an airconditioned building. I don't regret retiring and sometimes I miss being on the air but life goes on and now I just take it one day at a time. my wife is disabled and I am her caregiver part time.

    Today was a restday. My legs were sore from riding so much yesterday. I am looking at chamios lined shorts to relieve some of the chaffing too.

    I also started saving for a motobecane Lurch with a bluto fork. once I get 600 saved my son is going to make up the difference by buying my Gravity Bullseye Monster. it will be an early birthday present sometime early in 2015. (February or March). I guess you'd say I am addicted to cycling! Peace and lotsa miles to all.Fred

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    A good day.

    I spent four hours riding today. found a bunch of back road gravel and rode following them and riding some trails that led to a creek. I think I found a new fishing area. the water was sure cold enough.

    I hit 279 today too.

    On another note, I am glad that someone got rid of post that a fella wrote complaining about Fat Bikers that use frame bags and ssuch. way to go to the powers that be

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    Great job, keep it up!
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    Love reading this thread and hearing about your weight loss and enjoying it.

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    A short hospiyal stay.......

    I just got released from the Hospital........I had a minor stroke and had to stay for two days. I've mostly recovered from it except my left arm has slight weakness. The staff at the Medical Center were wonderful and took excellent care of me. The big thing is that we found out that instead of operating at 25%-35% my heart has improved to the point where it functions at 35%-45%! It owe it all to fat biking and a wise diet. The only bummer is I can't ride for two more days. So stay tuned for more information as it becomes availiable.

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    Also I am down to 275 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    I just got released from the Hospital........I had a minor stroke and had to stay for two days. I've mostly recovered from it except my left arm has slight weakness. The staff at the Medical Center were wonderful and took excellent care of me. The big thing is that we found out that instead of operating at 25%-35% my heart has improved to the point where it functions at 35%-45%! It owe it all to fat biking and a wise diet. The only bummer is I can't ride for two more days. So stay tuned for more information as it becomes availiable.
    Hope you feel better and recover completely. I am loving this thread because I can relate a little. You take care of yourself and keep the rubber side down.

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    Oldbear, rest up and heal up, and then get back out there.

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    Great thread Oldbear and happy to hear you are out of the hospital (wishing you better days). I'm 56 and way fat with a right knee that is bugging me. After reading your thread and others I decided to buy a matte black bullseye monster. I am hoping to join the "Getting Healthier" club real soon.

    PS- Listen to your Dr's, my pops has a defib and I know just how important it is to follow orders!

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    A little revision........

    I just looked at my discharge papers and found out that my final weight upon leaving the hospital was 269! I need to buy an accurate scale to use at home. Tequilasunset: when I first began this quest I weighed in around 313. I really encourage you to keep on riding and make sure your bike is set up for your own body type. Make sure the saddle is level and that you have it set so you can effectively pedal. My own rule of thumb, at least for me is that the saddle tip comes up to my tailbone (roughly 27"). As an old school dirthead I set up the saddle so that when my foot is on the pedal in the six o'clock position that my kneecap lines up with the ball of my foot when the ball is over the axle. Annnd I set up the saddle so that the tips of my fingers rest across the stem touching the front of the stem when the arm is placed against the tip of the saddle and extended towards the bars. It's a little old school but it works for me. I am 6'1" with an inseam of 32. and by the way I am 62. but when I am on my bike I feel like I did out in Utah 19 years ago. Thanks for all the kind comments. PEACE! Fred

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    So oldbear52, how are you feeling and have you been able to get back on your bike yet? I hope you are feeling better. Keep up the nice play and weight loss.

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    Just tonight and then I ride!

    robertdavid: Tomorrow I ride. Short trip to Lion's Club Park and the trails there . Maybe one lap. Except for a stinky running nose I feel pretty good the weakness has left the left side of my body so I ready to go. I JUST CAN'T WAIT!

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    Glad to hear you are feeling better. Take care and keep us/me posted on your progress.

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    First day back!

    I finally got back on the bike and tearing up the trails, sort of. I rode about 25 miles today and it felt GREAT! I rode the lions club trails and some gravel roads with the daughter. My BP was 118/89 when I started with a pulse of 65. I noticed that some of the hills aren't as steep as I am getting into better shape. I love the stares and some of the questions thrown my way. The majority of comments are about the bikes tires and their aboloity to ride over stuff. When we got home and after a twenty minute rest my BP was back down to 118/87 and my pulse was 70. We are planning a trip to Moab next spring as soon as my buddy gets his car and Bike. (aGravity Bullseye Monster of course). We also plan to ride part of an old rr bed down in the Durango area from a Rail Road that died in 1951 called the Rio Grande Southern. We will first doi a training ride on the KATYT Trail a rail to trail conversion that runs from St. Charles Mo. t

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    to sedalia Mo. We will ride the portion that runs from Jefferson City to Columbia Mo. It will be a good stretch of our legs. It is fairly flat with sections that run parallel to the Missouri River. It is fine gravel so you get all kinds of cyclists. No one rides it in winter so I might take the bike up then. until tomorrow ride on! Fred

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    Glad to hear you are back in the saddle. Have fun but listen to your body.

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    Thanks

    Thanks Robertdavid. I just fell good. No soreness ans no red ring about the bum either. You know it takes time to 'toughen' up the posterior. My legs don't get as wobbly after the rides either. Now when Wednesday comes around I have to buy a home scale to keep a record of my weight.

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    Another day another 25 miles.

    I rode out to Dolittle and back today and found even more gravel to shred. Had a nice sandwich and a diet Dr. Pepper cherry. The ride has got a couple hills that I am starting to be able to ride over. and alrhough it's on pavement I isn't all that bad. My BP this morning was 120/84 and Pulse was 70. after I got home I checked it again and found It was 136/69 ans after twenty minutes my Pulse was back down to 70
    I will see how much I have lost tomorrow as I visit my Doctor. until then Happy Trails to you all.

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    Thanks for the update and you better keep em coming. Good luck at the Doctor tomorrow.

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    Hey I just found this thread, this is awesome, congrats OldBear!! Inspiring to many of us, who understand just a tiny bit or more what you're going through. I bet those nurses love to hear about your cycling!

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    Hey, old bear, need a doctor's report soon. Hope it all went well.

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    Doctor says all systems go!

    ETchipolte and robertdavid: Went to the Doctor at 10nam and found out I've lost another 4 pounds! She said that I need my yearly Lipid test and made a referral to a Dermatologist for a sore on my ear. Then I went for my daily ride. Rode four laps out at Lion's Club and It was great. Beautiful early fall day high of 84 and clear skies. The trees are starting to become a lighter shade of green, and It is a little less humid. then a slight accident at home, , We raise guppies and Angelfish and there was a bucket on the floor and I stepped into it spraining my Right big toe! I really hurt but It's night here as I write this, and , aspirin will have to suffice along with elevating it when I go to bed. Luckily I can still get my cycling shoes on. By the way as a post script I forgot to put down my weight 265. The weight keeps coming off the more I cycle. We are looking to replace are 1980's bike trailer with something new. (and lighter) any suggestions? Peace Fred

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    Keep up the good work, Fred! You are getting stronger every day.

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    Good for you and not so good about your toe. Ice that puppy.

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    My toe wasn't broke Thank God. So I did a little ride to St. James and back. I am anxious for the colder weather. It is supposed to rain tomorrow so I'll use it as a rest day. I noticed that my recovery rate is about 20 minutes after a ride. My heart rate today reached 100 and after the ride It was 60. My toe didn't give me any trouble at all.

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    Rain, rain, RAIN!

    It rained all day off and on so I didn't get to ride. I don't like to ride on the Lion's Club trail after rain like this because of the potential for trail damage. Even though the trail is hard packed I just don't want to do any damage and ruin it for others. I have shared trails in Utah where the equestrians rode after a spring storm and the damage their horses did. Luckily we has a BLM ranger that was a Mountain Biker and he got a crew of us together to repair the damage. the repair crew was all volunteer and mostly bikers and families that hiked the trails on weekends the local equestrians did not volunteer at all. but that was twenty plus years ago and the equestrians now cooperate more. But here I guess tomorrow I will put on sweats and a hoodie and ride some gravel roads just outside town or ride the bike path or maybe both. When we lived in Utah trail advocacy was in it's infancy. There was a state rep that tried to get a special tax passed on 'offroad bicycles". His reasoning was to fund search and rescue so that stranded bicyclists could be rescued. The funny thing was there was never a rescue done for a Mountain biker, but, plenty for horse people who got lost in the high desert.
    I guess I am a little off topic but I guess Fat bikers are a mostly prepared lot that when going deep into the wilderness got loaded with survival supples and equipment. I carry a lot of extra gear in a back pack like a sheet of plastic and a space blanket and parachute chord to build a temporary shelter. plus I am a radio amateur (ham) and I carry a fully charged handheld two way radio so I can get help faster than a cell phone even though I carry one of those too. But Mainly I ride for health and to enjoy the scenery. I used to road race back in the sixties and seventies and was in excellent health. I quit in 81 and began to suffer weight gain. I kept cycling but I was as intense as used to be. I rode touring bikes and dabbled in riding centuries. It wasn't until '85 that I bought my first Mtn bike and the rest is history. PEACE Fred, OLDBEAR

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    Keep up the great work/play. It is nice to hear that you are doing something about feeling healthier. Good choice, IMHO.

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    Today was a treat for me. We went up to Columbia and rode out along the KATY trail for twenty miles out and twenty miles back The weather was great and I even did some intervals with my fatty against my daughter on her trek. Needless to say she did better than I. It was a blast from the past to do those and I recovered quickly between sessions. I hit 263 today and my son who is autistic said "Dad you're getting skinny". "Well, you are losing weight too.' I replied and he said "yeah". Along with the abundant sunshine, the temp only got up to 74 here today. and tomorrow is supposed to be more of the same. the coolest day they are forecasting this week is Friday, 61 for a high and mid forties for a low. Fall is here!

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    Nice ride. I rode 47 miles at one of my favorite trails on Sunday also. Keep up the good play because that's what it is. It's play that makes us feel better and alive.

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    A forced day of rest.......

    I guess that the title says it all....a forced day of rest....... You know that when you have some health problems you can only push the envelope so far. I did that on Monday. I tried to ride part of the Ozark Trail and hit the 'wall'> so Tuesday was a 'forced day of rest". I got sick and had to take it easy. I had the sniffles and a sore throat along with a weird stiff neck. My temp hit 101.9! I am pretty much over it now....Wednesday Morning at 4 am.....So I am planning a light ride around the block twice about four miles in length.

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    21 miles today!

    I rode 21 miles today. Most of it on dirt/gravel. The saddle time was split 80 percent off road and 20 on road. I enjoyed the workout and felt no ill effects in the least. The weather was beautiful and warm. I tested my Oxygen level/pulse mid point and it was 97/89. When I had my 20 minute cool down it was 98/61. my weight is 260lbs. and I feel less fatigue in my legs. When I started my program of cycling my legs would fell like rubber for a half hour after a strenuos (?) ride and It was not the best time to walk. But now I feel just a slight fatigue and it's pretty good. Saturday, we plan on riding the Kaintuck area and do a little Trout fishinbg and have a fish fry at home that night. It should be a nice time with my daughter and son who is coming down from Jefferson City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ...When I started my program of cycling my legs would fell like rubber for a half hour after a strenuos (?) ride and It was not the best time to walk. But now I feel just a slight fatigue and it's pretty good...
    I would say you are over the hump then. Now it's going to get easier each time.

    One thing I have noticed about heavy people who lose weight is that they usually have very strong legs. We need to get you on a singlespeed now.
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    Glad you are feeling better. I always take one day per week off from riding and listen to my body even when I do not want to.

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    RAIN Rain RAin!

    yesterday was another RaIN day! So I went for a walof all places, wallyworld. But today was far different......Just 24 hours later and it was perfect fall weather!. We went out to the trails at Kaintuck rec area. Spent about our hours out there riding and cleaning up our campsite. Seems that some teens or others found our site and used it as a party site. we packed out three bags of trash. they had made a nice bench out of a dead tree and we thank them for that, they also built a bigger fire ring too. again thanks. didn't do any fisas that time was spent cleaning but we did get in some ride time. we really enjoyed the day and the main loop out there and even expo;ored a bit of single track too. Didn't check the usual heart rate + oxygen level so sorry guys, nut I did real well even when climbing out of the saddle. Hope you all had awesome days wherever you are today around the globe. Asw the Rev. Robert Schuller used to quote form the Psalms: "this is the day the Loed hath made let us rejoice and be glad in it".
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    One day at a time. That is about all we can do. Keep it up.

    Hey, oldbear, any new reports?
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    Haven't written for a few days. rained all day yesterday8 so I didn't get a ride in. But today I went out and rode the Acorn trail, a paved trail that runs through the city. If the weather holds I will ride Lions Club trails tomorrow after they have dried out a bit. I am ordering some tires for the winter, any input? My gravity Bullseye Monster has Vee misions on it and they are wearing pretty good and they give good traction in the dirt. ''

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    Bout time we got an update. I rode 28 miles on the road tonight. Light mist but not bad with the correct apparel and good lights. My fat bike should be here by the end of this or next month. I have 4 other bikes but this will be my first fatty. I demoed one and loved it. It is new so it is taking awhile but it will be worth the wait. I saved 2.5 years for a full sup and now I am getting a Specialized Superlight Carbon Fatbike. Hey it was as fast and more fun.

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    Must be nice to get a carbon fiber fatty! Just kidding robertdavid. Went to the Doctor today, and , I now weigh 260! And my A1C is down to 8. I owe it all to biking and a sensible diet. I cut a lot of fatty foods out of my diet and now drink lots of water and the occasional diet soda, dr pepper cherry diet. We eat a lot of baked boneless skinless chicken breast and wheat bread. By the way, I figured out that I average about 25 miles a day on the bike. According to some old Fat tire lore if you ride 1 mile on dirt it's equal to 4 on the road, Given that I ride about 14 miles off road almost daily that means 56 road miles. I read that years ago in Mt bike action. '92-'95.

    ON the epic ride front, we have made reservations in Sedona Arizona foe next April. Annnd a September/October trip to our own Mecca,,,Moab Utah for two weeks. My wife and I are goiung out west to Moab to find a place to buy to 'retire' to. that's our epic schedule for 2015, plus maybe go to Dirt Rag's dirtfest. Since we have a 2004 Ford Crown Victoria coming our way in December we will be able to go throughout the Midwest.

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    Meant to write 250lbs inste4ad of 260. I guess I just got excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Meant to write 250lbs inste4ad of 260. I guess I just got excited.
    Nice!!!

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    robertdavid: you must be an early riser! Here I sit with a jar of Jiff and spoon in hand writing yet another entry to the thread. We have decided to definately make Dirt Fest a priority next year. and if we are lucky maybe send out some feelers about starting a Magazine devoted to our end of the sport. How would 'Fat Tracks' sound? A magazine for fat bikers by fatbikers. Just a thought. Now watch some slick paper publisher will take my name. It seems that today is going to be a warm day. 75 this afternoon and no rain in sight for the next three and then on Sunday a 10% chance for rain. That means lots of riding and lots of posts.
    Today I will ride over to St. James and ride the trails they have over that way/ that means a 4hr ride. Most of it will be pavement unless I can talk my Daughter unto taking me in her truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ...We eat a lot of baked boneless skinless chicken breast...
    Just make sure it's not intensively farmed and pumped full of hormones designed to make the chicken put on weight quickly...
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    We get ours through an Organic Farm network. We prefer it that way. We also do not eat a lot of pork. If I want bacon, I buy, apple cured beff breakfast strips from an Islamic packing house in Des Moines Iowa. they sell a lot of 'kosher' Isalmic meats and most of it is Organic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    We get ours through an Organic Farm network. We prefer it that way. We also do not eat a lot of pork. If I want bacon, I buy, apple cured beff breakfast strips from an Islamic packing house in Des Moines Iowa. they sell a lot of 'kosher' Isalmic meats and most of it is Organic.
    Good. I'm really suspicious of chicken. My wife has been on several diets, and these almost always involve lots of chicken. She nearly always seems to end up heavier and loses it after the diet! (but thinks I'm just being a crank about the chicken )
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    Today's Ride.

    Today we went to steeleville and rode the trails there. I found out just how much the Vee Mission tires are at providing traction over rocks. I rode approx. 20 miles of sweet single track in the national forest. I am amazed how those tires grip. Roots, no problem, Limbs over the trail, no problem. some loose gravel ion a creek bottom, no problem. Climbing on some neat ascents was excellent. I hardly ran short of breath. I even kept up with my daughter on the descents. My heart rate after one of the climbs hit 110 but after a short break to admire the view It dropped to 65. I am considering changing to Vee eight tires to see how they perform. i do have a confession though, on the way home we stopped at a hardee's for a burger and shakes. LOL. I did penance though tonight, I had a salad with diet {light} blue cheese dressing and a Iced tea.
    tomorrow I will have to stick to the Lion's Club Park Trail System for my ride. So until tomorrow keep on riding and keep the rubber side down! peace The Oldbear.

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    Thanks for the update. Glad so hear how you are doing.

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    another milestone!

    Went to the Cardiologist today for the results of an ultrasound on my heart. My Nurse Practioner said that my heart is functioning better. instead of only functioning at 35-40% it now functions at 45-50%! And most of my bloodwork is within ranges. :thumbsup

    I then rode out to Lion's Club Park and hooked up with another older fat biker and we rode four laps then had a light beer to celebrate our ride.
    The weather was perfect! We've had sunshine all day and thye temperature was in the lower 70's.

    This evening we listened to Fat-Bike Radio from Fat-Bike.com. It's our own 'prairie home companion'. They are funny! Tomorrow My daughter and I are heading to Columbia Missouri to visit the bike shops there and ride the KATY Trail.

    Fall is in the air and as this month passes I reflect on my 50+ years of biking, I realize that this hobby is a way of life that has literally saved mine. There is a time and season for everything, I choose to prolong the Middle of my life by cycling on a fat bike.

    Until tomorrow. Stay safe my friends and ride iknto the sunset looking for that golden horizon. Peace
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    Hope we can ride together sometime in this life. Glad your check ups are splendid. I used to be about 55 pounds heavier than I am now so I can relate. I was at 205 when I was 18 and only 5'8", beefy. I ran and watched what I ate and I know fluctuate between about 148 to 153. I logged over 55,000 running miles from age 18 to about 47. Developed compartment syndrome in my right lower leg when I was in my late 40's. Instead of surgery I started biking more and love riding trails, gravel, pavement, about anywhere. I currently own four 29ers. One may have to go when the Fat Bike arrives but I ride all of them. 2 single speeds, one with a road set-up and two geared bikes, a 2 x 10 and a 1x9. Two bikes are rigid and two have suspension forks.

    Keep up your riding and good eating habits. It helps. Have a good weekend and keep the rubber side DOWN.

    If I had discovered Mountain Biking when I was in my 20's I would've have run a lot less and just to cross-train. Next June I will be 60 and feel that the biking has made me fitter because it forced me to start working on my weaker areas, core, upper body that running neglects. When I ride a harder trail it feels like a total body workout. Saturdays are my off days due to longer work day and needing the break. Supposed to ride 46 miles of single track on Sunday on my SS with a suspension fork. Should be very leafy.

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    Thanks for the response Robertdavid. I am always amazed at what walks of life we in this community of fat bikers come from.
    As I have related before, I come from a long line of cyclists. Fat bikes or even newsboy bikes have been a passion of mine since the 60's when a neighbor through out a crusty-rusty Schwinn phantom. (I still have it). my Paternal Grandfather and Great Uncle were road racers in the teens, (1900's) to the twenties). Most of my teen years were spent on bikes. We had a group of buddies that rode together. Most of us had Newsboy bikes that we rode everywhere. Around the NW suburban Chicago there were lots of dirtroads and paved backroads to wander. Then I discovered Road biking. I did that til 1981. fast forward t6o 1985 and our first mountain bikes and then in 2001 heart attack hit. I ball ooned from 190 to 313 So I ahve seen my share of changes in bikes and still have an affinity for all things fat.

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    10-18-14 ride.

    We rode the Binder Lake trail today up in Jefferson City today. I really enjoyed having my two younger sons with this afternoon. I was the only one on a fat bike. We rode it three times and loved it. some climbs and lots of single track. My pulse at the start was 60 midway it rose to 99 and 20 minutes after we stopped it went back down to 60. If you're curious as to why it went back to 60 the reason is I have a pacemaker and it is set to 60bpm. I did run into another fat biker when I went to Kroger's tonight for ice cream, we talked and compared b ikes. he was riding a walgoose dolomite that he has had lots of work done to it. He was Impressed with my BD bike And will probably upgrade over the winter. He told me he has put almost $300 in repairs at the LBS and wants something more reliable. He has the rims replaced, the seat was crappy and the bottom bracket was shot after three months of riding. He was surprised at the Trek Farley, took it for a test ride before he got his dolo. He said he's giving his 13 year old the dolo and will get either a Surly Pus
    or maybe a Framed Minnesota 2.0. but \we exchanged phone numbers and plan to ride the Lion's Club once a week.
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    Where my fat biking started.

    By the way Brothers and Sisters I started on a Dolomite But wanted so0mething that would fit. so I gave the dolo to my son and rode my Trek Marlin ss 29er until I got my BD's Gravity Bullseye Monster. I think that the Dolomite is a great bike for those on a fixed budget.

    ferd OLdbear

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    What an awesome and inspirational thread. Hats off to you, oldbear52. Thanks for taking the time to share your on going story. Know that you have another new reader here.

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    I totally agree with the above post.

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    many thanks

    Robertdavid and cassavant: Thanks for your comments. today was my 'rest day''. I spent the day with my handicapped son watching HGTV

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    We also cleaned up the monster and refilled the tires . they had dropped to 6psi frony and 8psi rear .usually run 8psi front and 11psi rear. Tomorrow will be a trip to st. james to ride the trails ovber there. We hope to aqlso put in some miles on the Lion's Club Trails. My daughter is orderin a Gravity Bullseye Monster a smaller frame than mine. So until tomorrow peace and keep the rubber side down.

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    oldbear52 and the rest of the fat bike community - I've considered getting a fat bike but couldn't balance the cost of the fatty with the duties the bike would serve for me. My riding surfaces are all pavement or packed bike paths. Some rougher general city roads too, so standard 29ers and 26ers have suited me well. I really don't ride any aggressive single track.

    I've had a Surly Cross-Check which I never felt comfortable on (it was too big and I couldn't dial it in), a Specialized HardRock 26er, a Redline Monocog SS 29er, and a Cannondale Enforcement 26. I'm down to the Monocog and the Enforcement, but I still have that itch to buy a Surly that I can change things up and re-invent when I get bored with the current state.

    I've looked at the 1x1, ogre, troll, but now have really started to consider the Pugsley. My question here, does a fat bike make sense for my basic style of riding? Does anyone use a fatty for a daily commuter on pavement? If so, I live in eastern North Dakota and would love the fatty for late fall / early spring riding.

    Here's another thing to consider - if I went with a 1x1, ogre, or troll I could use one of my current bikes as a donor and really save on some of the cost.

    Talk me off the ledge, or into a fat bike. Either way, I'd love your insight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassavant89 View Post
    ...My riding surfaces are all pavement or packed bike paths.

    ...Here's another thing to consider - if I went with a 1x1, ogre, or troll I could use one of my current bikes as a donor and really save on some of the cost...
    You don't need a fatbike for those surfaces.

    However if you did have a fatbike, you would soon be looking for more interesting riding than those surfaces.

    If you're adamant that you will stick to the hard pack, then get a 1x1 or any of the Surlys that will take wider tyres, eg the 3" tyres, then if you get a bit more venturesome, you have something a bit better to ride than a skinny tyre bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    You don't need a fatbike for those surfaces.

    However if you did have a fatbike, you would soon be looking for more interesting riding than those surfaces.

    If you're adamant that you will stick to the hard pack, then get a 1x1 or any of the Surlys that will take wider tyres, eg the 3" tyres, then if you get a bit more venturesome, you have something a bit better to ride than a skinny tyre bike.
    Thanks velo - appreciate your insight. It's not that I'm adverse to trying out different conditions or riding surfaces, there's just not a lot around here other than road or bike path riding. I do take the Monocog to the state park once or twice a year, but I cant justify buying a bike for that.

    I actually have a vision of having one of the only (or maybe THE only) fatty "road" bikes in my area. Woodchipper drop bars, black floyd tires, and time too just cruise the day away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassavant89 View Post
    ...I actually have a vision of having one of the only (or maybe THE only) fatty "road" bikes in my area. Woodchipper drop bars, black floyd tires, and time too just cruise the day away.
    I put drop bars and Black Floyds on my 907 a few years back and then went for a few rides...

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/foo...nt-768667.html

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/can...ke-778052.html

    So don't be shy of using a fatbike with Black Floyds, you'll have an enormously capable bike that will take wherever you want to go, either off or on road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I put drop bars and Black Floyds on my 907 a few years back and then went for a few rides...

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/foo...nt-768667.html

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/can...ke-778052.html

    So don't be shy of using a fatbike with Black Floyds, you'll have an enormously capable bike that will take wherever you want to go, either off or on road.
    Amazing stories, Velo! Thanks for sharing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassavant89 View Post
    What an awesome and inspirational thread. Hats off to you, oldbear52. Thanks for taking the time to share your on going story. Know that you have another new reader here.
    MEEEE TOOOO!
    And I am one that has ALSO improved my health by getting back on a bicycle and riding! I have also lost weight. Annnnnd! Dog Gone it! Riding a bike, even at 57 y/o IS fun!

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    The Ride of the day, 10-20-14

    Hey everyone! Marna nice to see you here. Casavant, I hope you're still enjoying the fall. And I can't say enough about the beautiful weather here in mid south Missouri in the Ozarks. I( went to Lion's Club Park today and had a ball. found out that the trail is roughly 4 miles long not three as I had believed. My buddy Tom was on his fat bike and he and I did 6 laps of the trail 24 miles. the conditions were excellent. not mud and someone had been doing some kind of maintainence on the trail. Tom rides a Farly with a computer and I kept up with him, (no not wheelsucking), thru the trails we averaged 12mph and the time was 1hr and 23 min.
    We both use our bikes for basic transportation around town and bought them to be a little different
    We are planning an assult on the Berryman trail when my daughter gets her Monster. That will be sometime in November. we will ride it end to end and drive one truck to the finishline and pick up out bikes and then,m well you know the routine.
    My wife got her date for her tumor surgery, Jan 15th and a bariatric bypass in May. by July 2015 she should be able to ride an adult trike. Nov 6thg I have an eye surgeon apt. for cataracts. so I will ride until then.
    Now for our brother who is comtemplating whether or not to buy a fat bike.... as Nike just says ...JUST DO IT!........You won't regret it.
    PEACE and keep on bikin'! OLDBEAR, fred

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    Dang, Berryman trail. Nice. That is on my to do list if I can ever get vacation time at my work. Not looking good anytime soon.

    And to answer Cassavant, you probably need some sort of rigid bike or a hybrid. I own 4 bikes and if I was only riding pavement and packed dirt, I would choose my 1x9 rigid for that type of riding with cross tires or no more than a 2 inch wide non-aggressive mountain bike tire set up tubless with a sealant. Hope this helps. I have a fat bike ordered and cannot wait.

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    I rode 5.5 hours on one of my local trails, Montgomery Bell, on Sunday on my Single Speed. Rode an easy 2 hours last night on road and trails at Percy Warner Park. I feel better 99% of the time after my ride. OldBear, keep us updated either thru this forum or however. Keep the pedals turning and the rubber side down. Later

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertdavid View Post
    Dang, Berryman trail. Nice. That is on my to do list if I can ever get vacation time at my work. Not looking good anytime soon.

    And to answer Cassavant, you probably need some sort of rigid bike or a hybrid. I own 4 bikes and if I was only riding pavement and packed dirt, I would choose my 1x9 rigid for that type of riding with cross tires or no more than a 2 inch wide non-aggressive mountain bike tire set up tubless with a sealant. Hope this helps. I have a fat bike ordered and cannot wait.
    Thanks Robert - I currently have a Monocog 29er and a Cannondale Enforcement 26er that are pretty much exactly what you recommended. As any other bike enthusiast, I'm at that point of wanting something new and different, which is why I hijacked this thread with fatbike questions. haha

    I do think the advice offered here has me leaning towards a Surly Troll or 1x1 for my next project. That way, I can use on of my current bikes as a donor and can make it a semi-fat bike down the road with some wider tires.

    I'm certainly envious of all the cool sounding trails and places you all have to ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassavant89 View Post
    ...I do think the advice offered here has me leaning towards a Surly Troll or 1x1 for my next project. That way, I can use on of my current bikes as a donor and can make it a semi-fat bike down the road with some wider tires....
    This is my ancient 1x1 with the Dirt Wizard tyres. One of my friends who also rides fatbikes has one set up just the same. We both have quite a bit of riding experience and both of us think the Dirt Wizards transform the 1x1. It's amazing the difference that little bit of extra volume makes, you can use lower pressures, so the bike feels much more surefooted, not to mention more comfortable.





    And if you feel tempted towards the fat life, you can do it gradually by putting on a fat front






    (I rode it in this format in this year's SSEC in Northern Ireland.)

    However, it's best not to faff around with half-fat and go straight to fat. I only did it to this bike because the race track was going to be rooty and I didn't want to fit suspension.
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    Velobike: Neat ride! If my Trek had a different fork Maybe I'd try that fat front too.

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    Another Beautiful day in the neighborhood!

    It was another glorious day here in the Neighborhood. Clear weather and a temp of 73 and a light breeze. It was beautiful.
    Went out riding some gravel SW of town. Rode with Tom again and we put on 36 miles out and back and at least 34 of those miles was on gravel and dirt.
    Another goal was reached today I lost another 3 pounds. Bringing me down to 257. I found that out tonight when my daughter brought home a talking scale. My weight fluctuated at bit over the las few days. I really want to get down to 190 by January 15th. I have drinking less diet soda and eating a lot of baked meals. When I do fry meat I use no oil and that has helped. We also found two sources of raw milk. and of course I still get Goats milk. I read in a Goat keeping book that goats milk is much easier to digest than cows milk. I guess it has to do with the bu8tter fat. Plus pasturized cows milk has enzymes in it that can, over time destroy the heart muscles in humans
    When I was climbing a hill today I found myself not so much looking at the ground and enjoying, actually, enjoying the view. I wasn't running out of breath and my legs only burned and didn't feel weak. Annnd this was a long slow climb. I didn't even 'run out of gears'. i was totally amazed. Used to be on a climb like this half way up I would do the 'hike a bike routine." Maybe having Tom with me was a little incentive to do better.
    Tomorrow I am riding with my daughter.She's got a day off and wants to do the Forest City trails in St, James. It will be a little rest after the epic ride today.

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    Nice write up. I rode about 2 hours at Percy Warner Trails. May hit them up again today or do a pavement ride somewhere after work. Don't ride your daughter in the ground today.

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    We have goats. I am not milking them right now, but I will back up the theme that Goat's Milk is better for the body! Raw of course! One of my websites Working Goats - Front Page

    More and more, with riding the bicycle, I have noticed my health getting better....AND I AM DOWN A PANTS SIZE! It occurred to me yesterday that my wrists are not bothering me any more. They do not give out when stressed. They are not hurting at all. Funny, when the pain goes away, a person forgets. My wrists have not bothered me in a while now.....I just did not think about it. <simles>

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    The trees are starting to change

    Today was splendid! Mild temps and beautiful skies. I went to the Forest City trails and spent 3 hours just enjoying myself. I was surprised by the new loop we rode. It's the same trails just going from a different direction. lol
    My daughter rode her trek and when we hit some rooty sections began to realize just how nice it will be to get her fat bike. Hopefully she will get one on the first, or at least order it.
    i am in the process of getting more greens in my system. I seem to be a little low in the iron department, time to order up lots of green beans and spinach.
    I am getting some winter riding gear assembled. Wool Jersey and wool cap to go under the helmet, gloves and sweat pant over tights. plus some sort of winter cycling shoes. I already have snow mobile boots when the snow gets deep, Does anybody from way up north have any suggestions? Also I was wondering if there is any consensus about whyat tires to upgrade for the Gravity Bullseye Monster?They come Veerubber Missions. 4,0. Maybe go to the Veerubber *'s?:

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    Glad you had a good ride. I rode my SS on the trails today at a brisk pace, for me. It was chiller than yesterday. Lots of leaves on some of the trails making them a little skatey feeling. Brown Ice. Was replacing rear brake pads on my Ventana and stripped the brake bolt so I cannot center it. Will have to take it to the shop to have it removed.

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    No ride yesterday or today

    I haven't posted for two days because I caught an intestinal bug. I am still a little weak and hope to be ready to ride Sunday. I am achy all over, but, I don't have a fever. If any of you pray pray for a speedy recovery from this illness. Till tomorrow Peace.

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    Hang in there Oldbear52. I'm pulling for you.
    Ride while you can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    I haven't posted for two days because I caught an intestinal bug. I am still a little weak and hope to be ready to ride Sunday. I am achy all over, but, I don't have a fever. If any of you pray pray for a speedy recovery from this illness. Till tomorrow Peace.
    Get well soon but listen to your body on this one, for sure.

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    Praying for the speedy recovery oldbear!

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    Sti9ll no ride!

    This garbage is rough. I am still not over it. I want to ride soooo bad and my gut feels like lead. I am going to try to get out for a short ride tomorrow to test and see if I can get back on schedule. I will give you all the results tomorrow. Oldbear

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    Well it is tomorrow somewhere I hope you are feeling better.
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    I got out for two hours today. I rode the usual trails at Lion's Club Park and did njot push it. I feel mu7ch better and the antibiotics seem to be working.

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    Nice to hear you are feeling a little better oldbear52.

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    Good to hear...
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    A good workout for us.

    Went to the Forest City Trails yesterday abs rode several laps with my daughter and Tom. I noticed that the colors on the trees are waning and by the weekend they should all be down or brown. My health continues to improve. And my weight is holding st 255. My daughter's bike should be here next week. Then our ride on the Berryman will go ahead for Nov. 8th. I am buying a frame bag for this ride and we are getting hydration packs too. today's ride will br a normal workout PEACE
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    Good To Hear The Oldbear, that your health is continuing to get better. I have said before and will say again and again, My Health is Better from getting out and riding bikes, and I am so much stronger with more balance.

    Last night my new Gravity Fatty Monster arrived from bikesdirect. It is put together but it is still dark out right now. <grins> This bike is built well and even has the "anything bag holes". I LOVE THAT!

    What bicycle is your daughter getting from where? Is she getting a BikesDirect bicycle? I am thinking about another from there, seeing the quality of this bicycle.

    We too want to start BikePacking again. I have patterns cut out for the Handlebar Slings as well as the Stuff Sacks for it. I am going to make our Frame Bags very soon.

    Does your wife sew at all? Frame Bags look pretty simple to make. If not, and you are looking to spend less that the over $100 per Frame Bag, check out ebay. I saw a few there.

    I have a Camelback with a few small pockets that I LOVE! YES! I sure would recommend them. I added a couple of pieces of webbing to the bottom belt so that my pistol does not slip around on it. I wear it every time I go out on my bicycle.

    My weight is down another pound and I am very happy about it too!

    Have a good day and a good ride today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post

    My daughter rode her trek and when we hit some rooty sections began to realize just how nice it will be to get her fat bike. Hopefully she will get one on the first, or at least order it.

    i am in the process of getting more greens in my system. I seem to be
    I am getting some winter riding gear assembled. Wool Jersey and wool cap to go under the helmet, gloves and sweat pant over tights. plus some sort of winter cycling shoes. I already have snow mobile boots when the snow gets deep, Does anybody from way up north have any suggestions? Also I was wondering if there is any consensus about whyat tires to upgrade for the Gravity Bullseye Monster?They come Veerubber Missions. 4,0. Maybe go to the Veerubber *'s?:
    Oh here it is! The answer to what bicycle your daughter will be getting. <smiles> As far as updating the tires on the Graivity Monster? Mine look great right out of the box. I don't think I will upgrade them and I am planning to ride on snow and I ride on the Prairie (betonite, also called Gumbo Soil, it is the stuff they make the clumpy kitty litter out of, I call it Dinosaur Poop, awful stuff!)

    Winter Gear? Ha3 Yesterday I found out, it was cold here when I left for my ride, that I should leave COLD. I did not think I did, but I had too much on. I did wear a bandana over my face (think Train Robber) for a scarf. It is too warm yet for the Bright Yellow Balaclava, Velcro Scarf and Head Band I made with thick fleece doubled.

    Scarves are necessary, you don't want the cold air in your lungs as you work pedaling. People die every year for that reason shoveling snow. But you do not want your scarf dangling either. I cut my fleece scarf to size then added Velcro for the full length/that is the full width, to close it. I had made these for horse back riding too. The work great.

    Use BRIGHT Colors. People driving will be snow blind or have coats and such around them in their vehicles. Stay as visible as you possibly can.

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    We are a two monster family!

    Marna: My daughter got her Monster yesterday morning. So she rode it yesterday afternoon. so we are now a two monster family!She loves that bike and placed her Trek 4500wsd in storage. \I putogether my winter kit and I am awaiting the arrival of my Surlly wool cycling cap. I rode with an old beenie yesterday and I got too hot. As far as hydration goes, we both have Camelback Mules and carry two waterbottles on l;onger rides to stay hydrated. I applaud your weight loss and fitness report. I can tell you now how important it is to stay active in middle age and early senior citizen hood. Thirty years ago when Sue nd I got married I weighed in at 190lbs, and in the space of twenty five years I went from a 38" waist to a 58" waistand blossomed to 327lbs. I am down to 254 lbs and feel great now thanks to a sensible diet and cycling. so keep up the good work

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    VERY KOOOOL for your daughter! I snuck out this morning for a very short ride on my new Gravity! I seem to LOVE it! We have company coming so only a short ride for right now.

    <sighs> Yeah. Me too. (on the weight gain as I age) I am sure it is true for everyone. I tell people, especially women getting into their 30's, how important it is to stay and or get active! And I knew it too, when I got fat again, this time, but it is so much easier to sit and watch TV and eat. Ha3

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    Did a solo ride today. Rode around the city on the Acorn trail and then hit the Lion's club. Had a nice time sight seeing and not being all that concerned with speed, cadence or pulse rate. I just enjoyed the last of the colors. I am anxious for the eight. I want to do the Berryman sooo bad Going to order some Huskerdu;s next month. saving up for them . It's so strange to ride by myself. I just take my time and go slow except for the downhills on pavement on the way to the trails. I love how my daughter is lookingh forward to riding the trails with me. my other sons don't have the time to get down here to ride and I really wish they did.

    Now to wax nostalgic. Gentle readers: how many of you have ever enjoyed a Moab sunset? My family and I would travel down to Moab once a month in the spring and early summer once a month. WEe would camp on BLM lands above the Slickrock called the Sandflats.. (THIS WAS BEFORE PAID CAMPING) At Sunset we all would climb the rocks overlooking the Slickrock. There we would watch the sunset as it would drop in stages of color into the horizon. he colors of orange, pink, rose, dark red an deep purple as it slipped out of sight. Then the stars would appear and fill the night with their light. On Moonlit nights we would ride the Practice loop of the Slickrock or ride out under the moonlight on the Sandflats rode to the east. As the Kids would settle in around our campfire and listen to Reggae music or alternative rock on the local NPR station. Life was good and we slept sound.

    Until tomorrow. peace. The Oldbear

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    I did 17 miles at my local trail on my Single Speed. My Fatboy Superlight is backordered until the end of November. Who cares? I waited 6 months for my SS Ti frame and that bike will never be sold. I may rent a fat bike for this Sunday from my bike shop. Will see if they want someone to ride it for 4 to 6 hours. Keep having fun. Leaves were down big time today and the trail was a little slick in spots. Cut my speed back due to the conditions but it was more of a workout than when it is bone dry. May do a road ride tomorrow if it rains here. Keep the posts coming because I like reading positive stuff.

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    It's cooolllld here!

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    the temp is 43 with a windchill of 37 here this after noon. So I think I'll use today as a rest day. walked to the store and got chilled. When I left it was 45 without the wind chill by the time I arrived back home the temp dropped to 39 with a bad NW wind. I will ride tomorrow in the afternoon. It's supposed to be in the 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    the temp is 43 with a windchill of 37 here this after noon. So I think I'll use today as a rest day. walked to the store and got chilled. When I left it was 45 without the wind chill by the time I arrived back home the temp dropped to 39 with a bad NW wind. I will ride tomorrow in the afternoon. It's supposed to be in the 60's.
    Okay, it is time to suck it up and get the winter stuff out. I already have. Did 26 miles on the pavement tonight because my local trail was too wet and slick. Leaves all over the place in the two parks I rode through. Gotta have my fix for the day. Rode my SS geared for the road with 38 mm semi-slicks. I run a 32x14 on it. It was great and I am glad I have nice gear so I cannot just bemoan the weather. No such thing as bad weather, only bad gear. Have a great ride tomorrow. Saturday is my off day and Sunday is gonna be a cold trail ride.

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    I'm sorry....I lied.

    i lied. I rode for an hour this afternoon with the daughter. temp hit 45 and I bundled up and hit the trail. I am just waiting for my wool cycling cap from my local bike shop. I wore a skaters beanie under my helmet. and my daughter wore a St. Louis cards beanie under hers. luckily for me I have heavy gloves and long johns to go under my wind breaker pants. tomorrow is going to be a lot like today and we will ride the pavement. my weight is still at 252 and I felt great after the ride, except , for my nose.
    That's all folks! PEACE Oldbear

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    Rode two hours on local trail last night. Raining today. Probably a road or trainer ride tonight.

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    Okay, where is everybody on this, used to be, good thread. Cold weather driving you inside and into a funk? Not me. I have ridden every day this week and it has been great with one rainy road ride. Got news my new fat bike has been shipped.

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    Well. I was down to my 11-4-2014 weight goal. But have bounced back up.....normal I know. Aggravating all the same!

    I have been riding my bicycles every day. I have more miles on this week than normal. Sunday, Monday and Tuesday I rode my FATTY. Then my back started screaming so I am back on the Genesis.

    We shoveled a LOT of goat manure on Saturday. Sunday we rode twice the normal miles, Monday and Tuesday I pushed for just over one more mile per ride. The Gravity sits different than my Genesis Mt. Bike. I am more stretched out over the bike on the FATTY. Not a bad thing. Just something is old back needs to get used too.

    When my back stops hurting, I will start riding the FATTY every other or every third day or so.

    I really hate it too. I am pretty sure that the FATTY will be the bike I always ride, no matter what the terrain. <smiles> But it will take a bit to work up to that.

    I am headed out in a minute for a longer ride again today.

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    Oldbear is sidelined.

    Hi everyone. I
    have'nt been here for awhile because I have been in the hospital recovering from a stroke. It took out my left side . I can walk but I am going to physical therapy six days a week. I expect a full recovery but it will be six weeks before I can ride outside.+ I WILL get back on my fatty and work up to the berryman ride.so I will be monitoring and poisting from time to time . By the way I now weigh in at 245. I am riding a staionary bike at the clinic and will start treadmill next wednesday. So for now I will keerp you all posted on my progress with therapy. PEACE OLDBEAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Hi everyone. I
    have'nt been here for awhile because I have been in the hospital recovering from a stroke. It took out my left side . I can walk but I am going to physical therapy six days a week. I expect a full recovery but it will be six weeks before I can ride outside.+ I WILL get back on my fatty and work up to the berryman ride.so I will be monitoring and poisting from time to time . By the way I now weigh in at 245. I am riding a staionary bike at the clinic and will start treadmill next wednesday. So for now I will keerp you all posted on my progress with therapy. PEACE OLDBEAR
    Sad to hear that. I wish you a speedy recovery oldbear ... strokes are such nasty things, lost a parent to one. Anyway, just follow your therapy religiously and you'll get better... never ever loose hope.

    Keep on riding,
    cheers!

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    Don't worry. With your drive you pull through just as good if not better.

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    6 weeks on the sidelines is rough. Hang in there, I'm sure you will ride again! Having grown up by NYC Chinatown, I would consider tai chi if its available, in addition to your other exercise. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/04/sc...dent.html?_r=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Hi everyone. I
    have'nt been here for awhile because I have been in the hospital recovering from a stroke. It took out my left side . I can walk but I am going to physical therapy six days a week. I expect a full recovery but it will be six weeks before I can ride outside.+ I WILL get back on my fatty and work up to the berryman ride.so I will be monitoring and poisting from time to time . By the way I now weigh in at 245. I am riding a staionary bike at the clinic and will start treadmill next wednesday. So for now I will keerp you all posted on my progress with therapy. PEACE OLDBEAR
    Keep those pedals turning.

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    Thanks for all the encouragement and concern. I went for a walk around the block this afternoon using a cane. I am supposed to use a walker but I felt funny after Most of neighbors had seen me riding a bike. A few stopped me to ask how I was doing and told them better. Besides walkers are for old people. LOL. \
    My daughter just returned with our friend Tom from riding the Berryman Trail. She brought back quite a few pictures and had a great time. I am sooooooo jealous! Her bike preformed very well and she didn't complain in the least. When she started the temps were in the low 40's and by the time she got back it only got up to the mid 50's. I am hoping to ride the Berryman in April or May. I will have my Gravity Bullseye pro by then.
    During the walk I only had to stop twice to catch my breath. I really feel better.
    robertdaivid: great to hear about your Fatboy. post a picture of it when you get it.
    Marna: You will get used to your fatty. It took me no time to get used to mine but things were reversed. My Trek Marlin ss stretched me our more than does my Monster. plus on the Fatty my butt doesn't get sore as well. Remember your muscles memories have to be reset as well.
    And remember to put tons of that goat manure into your garden soil to decompose over the winter. ( that's just the farmer in me talking.)
    And so this brings me to the end of my post. I hope everybody has a wonderful Veterans day and to those of you who served our country,
    Thanks for your service.
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    Wishing you a speedy recovery oldbear!

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    Hated to hear about this. I hope you recover well. This is the reason I never take this for granted. Keep me/us posted. Your starting this thread has been great. Thank you so much. In my prayers.

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    Get well soon!!
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    An Excellent Day!

    Hello all! I went to the hospital for rehab today and worked out for an hour and then rode the stationary bike. The therapist set it for a road ride with moderate hills. I rode for a half hour and all my vitals stayed within allowable range. i told them that before the stroke, I was riding my fat bike six days a week. They said that was why I am recovering so quickly and then they said that they expect a shorter recovery time of four weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    They said that was why I am recovering so quickly and then they said that they expect a shorter recovery time of four weeks!
    Nice to hear that about your recovery... it made my day!

    Keep on riding,
    cheers!

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    Thanks for some good news. Need some more. I am pulling for you. Keep me/us informed.

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    Thats why I've always thought buying things that keep you active is such a good investment. By being conditioned from riding will likely make your recovery much faster and you may have been worse off if you weren't biking.

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    just have to watch out on those pressure treated bridges...

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    Great news on the recovery front. Keep up the good work.
    Ride while you can...

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    Sorry Old Bear to hear of your health set back. But glad to hear you are recouping well.

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    My Weight is back down (YAAAAY!). I have my fat bike already to go. We have snow. Guess What!? I have three teeth bothering me (to the point of almost tears) So I have not been out to ride in the snow yet. But did you catch that I lost more weight!? <winks>

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    Marna: I am glad that you too are losing weight. We are expecting snow this week too. But I won't be able to ride in it. Today is my rest day. I spent the day working on my aquariums. I have guppies and angelfish. I also watched 'We were soldiers ' on AMC. The temperature here is 32.7

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    Hi everyone! Had another excellent day at rehab. Worked out with light weights and did the therapy thing for 45 minutes and then rode the stationary bike for 45 minutes. I am now able to walk without a cane or walker and my left side is much stronger. I talked with my doctor today and he said by the week of Christmas I should be able to ride my bike. (weather permitting). I was told not to ride at temps below 25f and to avoid riding at temps above 95f. I am so excited. I want to break in my new tires and back out there. my weight went back up bit to 260 but I will lose it when I start riding again. got my winter gear in order and I am ready to go.
    We are expecting snow Sat. and Sun. So my daughter and Tom are planning to ride the Forest City trails in St. james in the snow. Lucky dogs.
    Well everyone enjoy their coming weekend. Especially those in the northwoods or Wisconsin and Mimmesota.

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    Like to hear good news. Thanks for keeping me/us up to date. I know you are working your tail off in therapy.

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    Had a maiden voyage on my new Fatboy SL. Bike handles and fits me perfect. Here is a picture of what this bike looks like. https://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/fa...fatboy-sl-.jpg

    Not mine but I am not good at this transferring pics. Only change I made was tubeless set up, Ergon grips, and Candy pedals.

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    Hi everbody. Just got back from Rehab. Another real good day I was on a weight machine doing leg lifts and found that my leg strength is almost as good as it was when I was in college almost thirty years ago. I can, with both legs lift almost three hundred pounds! The aide said he was amazed in the definition in my calves. of course my right leg is stronger but that's to be expected. I rode the stationary bike for 45 minutes without a problem. It's going to snow tomorrow and Sunday and my fat bike isn't going to taste the snow. Just can't wait until December!
    Robertdavid: Congrats on your new bike. remember to keep the rubberside down1

    Until next time, PEACE. Fred aka the oldbear

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