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    fat bike forum?

    MTBR mods/admin, Can we get a fat bike/ snow bike forum already? Fat bikes meaning any bike using the 3.7 endomorph tire. Right now we are spread out all over the mtbr universe.

    The Surly forum has the most action on the subject. There is not much action over there; it’s a surly thing. Then we invade the 29er forum. The tires diameter is 29 inches and most bikes can use 29er wheels so they are tolerated there. Then you have the Alaska forum. The bikes original home. Recently there was a request to split the forum off and have a gear section. People there didn’t think there was enough action there to warrant an Alaskan gear forum. In the 650b and other tire trends forum there are almost no topics. I don’t feel that it’s because of lack of interest, but the wrong place.

    I do think that if there were a fat tire bike/ winter bike forum there would be a lot of interest. There are several companies embracing the tire, Surly, Speedway, Wild fire, Fire bike, Vicious, Black sheep, Jones, Retro tech/ Inglis, Moots (try and get one), DeSalvo, Carver and some others I missed feel free to add them.

    The topics could include, studded tires, winter gear, adding a fat front fork to your current bike. Summer sand riding, rims 50-65-80-100. Tubes and tires, racks, fenders and the general set up of these big bikes.

    I think this could work. We have a beer forum after all. Lets try it out and see. what’s the worst that can happen. The fat tire revolution has started get on or get run over.

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    maybe don't limit it to one tire, but to the wide rims, which there are several.

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    fat tires forum

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    Good idea. Count me in.
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    +1 on a Winter forum. Fat bikes might be a little too specific, though it would likely be the most discussed topic.
    I'm currently on a Surly 1x1 with Schwalbe studded tires. Not a Fat bike, but definitely related. I just started this year. What a blast! It's really opened the season up for me here in Vermont. I'm even starting to covet a Pugsley. Endomorphs with studs???
    I'd love to see a forum for all things winter riding related: Winter Passion, gear, clothing, commuting, recreation, sourcing equipment...
    Let's make it happen!

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    Winter forum would be the best option I think

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    Fat Bike Forum

    I have no idea how snow looks like but I almost want to move to a real cold place just to have a reason to get one...

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    I agree with the winter forum.

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    i think a fatbike forum would be great, as long as it's not limited to the endomorph. my 26 x 3" tires on 70mm rims are pretty fat.

    a winter forum would only see use during one portion of the year, and the title of the forum would include winter commuting and any other type of riding that happens from december though march.

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    count me in if sand/beechriding included as well as snow,in fact all types of riding anywhere,hot or cold by anyone with a fat bike,or modified bike fitted with larger than normal tyres for that bit float

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    I suppose the fat bike thing extends beyond winter for a number of riders.
    There is beach cruising, etc. One guy in the area rides a Pugs year round.
    Whatever the case, there is an obvious need for a forum that tackles these topics. I certainly don't think it warrants two new forums. It would be kind of cool, as winter approached, the snow birds would return to the forum.
    Winter/ Fat forum?
    Fat/ Winter forum?
    I think the first one sounds better.

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    +1 more for the winter forum. Good call. Lots to be shared, too little time to scan the existing scattered threads. I've got a couple posts ready to start it off!
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    a Fatbike forum sounds great

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    +1 for a fat bike forum. Not just limited to Endos. It should include sand/desert riders too.

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    yep get it all in there. it will be a melting pot of all things fat tires and the bikes they go on. winter/snow riding or summer sand riding.

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    This is an idea whose time has time has come. Fat bikes needn't be split between the Alaska and 29" forums, especially when the former seems to tire of the intrusion and the latter generates more than enough discusion on its own. Studded tire and other winter related questions often pop up on the regional forums, but since this is an international site it makes sense to bring as many people together as possible on this "niche" topic.
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    Phat Tire Forum this sound kinky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail
    What happened to the links to this post in the other forums? Would it be OK to post a link to this in other posts such as “Peep or post pics-o-Pugs” or “Winter Passion Thread”?

    Going to be real hard to spread the word this way
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    Is there an official way to petition mtbr for a forum? I've gotta believe mods have seen this.
    Mods, what do we do?

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    The time has come......

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    Phat Bike

    I am puting my vote in for Phat Bike...the skinny tire people have other places to post... we need our own

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail
    A manufacturer is going to want to see interest. If we get enough interest the MFG would find us.

    dog gives me an idea. Use your signature.

    Time to make some posts
    Thanks for bringing this up bighit!
    Send emails to the manufacturers asking if they would be willing to sponsor a forum dedicated to the Fat Tire riders mtbr.com cant say no this is how they keep the forum open.

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    Fat Bike forum would be cool... as long as we could extend it to chat about anything from production endomorph/LM combos to 26" trials rims and downhill tires to 29er Gordo's and Racing Ralph 2.4's or studded tires or whatever is working for folks on non-typical singletrack surfaces like snow, ice, sand... Sources of gear like specialized wide rims or pogies or winter riding boots or ways to carry water in cold...lots to discuss. I've sunk enough money into winter riding stuff and will continue to sink more...opportunity knocking for a sponsor company to cater to the niche. Lake boots? Come on, what does it cost to sponsor the forum and what is the return???

    OT Funny I was better prepared for snow this year than ever and I have been riding dirt all winter in Denver area...go figure...it's all good. Oh well my pogies will get used next December.

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    ... and if we just ... lets not forget the FATTEST and 1 of the Originals

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    mission control we need a "GO" for lift off on a fat tire forum....
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    two thumbs up for a fat bike forum.sounds cool and great.count me in!! i"ll support that forum all the way....

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    One more for the fat bike forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyonrat
    Fat Bike forum would be cool... as long as we could extend it to chat about anything from production endomorph/LM combos to 26" trials rims and downhill tires to 29er Gordo's and Racing Ralph 2.4's or studded tires or whatever is working for folks on non-typical singletrack surfaces like snow, ice, sand... Sources of gear like specialized wide rims or pogies or winter riding boots or ways to carry water in cold...lots to discuss. I've sunk enough money into winter riding stuff and will continue to sink more...opportunity knocking for a sponsor company to cater to the niche. Lake boots? Come on, what does it cost to sponsor the forum and what is the return???

    OT Funny I was better prepared for snow this year than ever and I have been riding dirt all winter in Denver area...go figure...it's all good. Oh well my pogies will get used next December.
    all are welcome

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    I am going to contact two companies. im not going to list them because i dont want to put them on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastkid71
    count me in if sand/beechriding included as well as snow,in fact all types of riding anywhere,hot or cold by anyone with a fat bike,or modified bike fitted with larger than normal tyres for that bit float
    Thats a good guide line.

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    I am waiting for MTBR to get back to me. stay tuned.

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    Speedway Cycles is in...

    I'm definately up for it. Heading off to the start of the Ultrasport. Tons of new snow-it's gonna be a slog for the riders right from the gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
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    Ta-da! speedway cycles is in. He is one of the two companies i contacted. Both are in. lets see what MTBR says.

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    also speedway hooked me up with these 660 gram 50mm wide uma rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
    also speedway hooked me up with these 660 gram 50mm wide uma rims.
    Your on a roll bro your dream may be a reality soon, my fingers are crossed.
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    WOOHOO !

    Well done BH

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    YES! Fat bikes have been on my radar for a while (sand riding here is south NM), but it's difficult to find info as it is spread all over. Heck, I only recognized about half of the mfg's listed a few posts back - so I know I'm missing things.

    Go Go Gadget FatBikeForum!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester
    YES! Fat bikes have been on my radar for a while (sand riding here is south NM), but it's difficult to find info as it is spread all over. Heck, I only recognized about half of the mfg's listed a few posts back - so I know I'm missing things.

    Go Go Gadget FatBikeForum!!!
    great to have you on board. your right you have to scour mtbr for info. thats why we need our own forum.

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    we have to see how much it takes to be a sponsor. i hope its within reason and we can do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
    we have to see how much it takes to be a sponsor. i hope its within reason and we can do this.
    I know I really opened the wallet for parts that worked in the cold and more importantly wouldn't strand me in the cold. So, were I a vendor I would love to suck up to this group.
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    Nice work, bighit. Amazing. That really has to be record.
    Obviously an idea that's time has come.

    Now the name...

    Snow and Sand
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    Friends let friend ride fat...tires!

    Whatever it's named, PLEASE, please spell Fat with an "F," no phreakin' "Ph" Phat.

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    I think its got to be, fat bikes. thats what the industry is calling them. I think we have to solicit names.

    Also pugs are great rock crawlers. 5psi makes for some great grip. sorry no action shots, but i ride alone. these are my local trails 5 miles from my home. so you know my pug gets thrashed.
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    Count me in. Just got back from a great Fat Bike ride this afternoon. I'm firmly convinced that the Pugsley is one of the top ten mountain bikes ever produced. Evar.

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/TmBsO23xAVyjXKVXWKbhww?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.ggpht.com/_2pMFn07lnyo/Sas9eBHY8TI/AAAAAAAAGSQ/m5sgK5wUnT8/s800/DSC_0313.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/martini.ss/Riding09?feat=embedwebsite">riding 09</a></td></tr></table>

    Had three Pugs on this ride. The snow was super hard, nearly ice. VERY fast to ride on, even at low pressure. Lots of ice too. Truly is amazing what these bikes can ride up.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3320625609/" title="Dirt track. by unclefuzzy_ss, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/3320625609_96b950037e_b.jpg" width="685" height="1024" alt="Dirt track." /></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3321440936/" title="NSFW. by unclefuzzy_ss, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3321440936_e68dd17f8f_b.jpg" width="685" height="1024" alt="NSFW." /></a>
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    I should have posted a pic with my support.

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    that'd be awesome... just one place to go to check up on the fat tires
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~
    Count me in. Just got back from a great Fat Bike ride this afternoon. I'm firmly convinced that the Pugsley is one of the top ten mountain bikes ever produced. Evar.
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    Love the dead snowmobile shot.

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    Exciting stuff - thanks Bighit!

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    I should have thrown this out sooner, especially as I've already adopted it as my Pug's mascot/mojo/theme, but how perfect a sponsor would these guys be:
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    Sounds great!

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    did you ever notice that with a fat bike you dont mind snow. we got 6 plus inches last night.

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    nah. I like the concave you get with the DX clone pedals. Gives a nice pocket for my foot.
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    Good Idea

    OP great thread and idea. This type of bike has more possibilities than most realize.
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    Great idea, I'm in full support, though I have no cool pics to list on this computer...
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    Sorry it took me so long to get to this thread. I will post a request to the Administrators but you can also post your request in the Site Feedback/Issues forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    Sorry it took me so long to get to this thread. I will post a request to the Administrators but you can also post your request in the Site Feedback/Issues forum.
    great. i got an email in to Greg. Any help would be great.

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    I will echo what others are saying- perhaps there should be two new forums.

    Fat tires (while built for the snow) make great sand and mire tires as well, so I think it would be prohibitive to make it a "winter bike" area.

    On the other hand, I would love to have a forum to chat nothing but snow/ winter riding with people- but I dont ride a fatbike. I have a 26" bike just so I can toss my studded nokian tires on and go thrash around in the snow. There are a lot of "studded" winter riders out there too that dont have fatbikes.
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    my vision doesn't include seasons per say. It does include bikes and people using abnormal tires to ride in extreme terrain.
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    any news on a fatbike forum yet bighit?,gona be an explosion in fatbikes in a couple of years time here in the uk,its just the uk magazines arnt marketing them-mainly the surly pugsley,alot of uk riders (like me) tend to use this website so a site not just for extreme winter biking would be great,pugsley is great for wet marshy trails as well as sand/snow which we have alot of here in the uk! and we dont have tresspass laws in scotland now(right to roam,scottish access code) so we can go where we want which is where pugsley type bikes come into there own,

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    One more interested in fat biking, summer & winter

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    Some suitable apparel for forum members :_

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FAT-TIRE-VINTA...2%7C240%3A1318

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    as soon as i get an answer from mtbr i might have to fire off an email to fat tire.

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    Some suitable apparel for forum members :_

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    Oh, I've got plenty of their cycling apparel. They look at their swag like free advertising and probably don't actually make much money on it. I think the spandex jersey was 50.00 and the wool jersey was 70.00. And it's nice stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahatma
    YES!!!

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    ... and no winter-forum!

    There is not enough winter here in cologne.


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    high chance he got em here
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    Okay, well judging from the reponse here in this thread, and the few emails I got, and the moderator's suggestions...I'm willing to give this a go.

    One thing though....what should it be called? There are two names being used here...Fat bike (fatbike) and winter forum. One of the mods also suggested "Sand and Snow Bikes".

    So, what sayeth y'all?

    Fatbike forum is kinda catchey, and we do have the ability to add a short description to the forum title (on the forum index page, anyway). So maybe:

    -Fatbike
    (Discuss sand and snow bikes here.)

    or something like that?

    Like previously stated, the name Winter forum would exclude Sand bikes.

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    Fatbike! Fatbike!

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    Well it's a good morning. I feel fatbike should be the title.

    how about a little description like, snow, sand and extreme terrain riding. or bikes with extra wide tires and rims sounds good to

    Do we need a sponsor? Mods? Donalson and Rockcrusher are mods already would they be able to cover it. Thanks Gregg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
    Well it's a good morning. I feel fatbike should be the title. how about a little description like, snow, sand and extreme terrain riding.

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    Okay, well judging from the reponse here in this thread, and the few emails I got, and the moderator's suggestions...I'm willing to give this a go.

    One thing though....what should it be called? There are two names being used here...Fat bike (fatbike) and winter forum. One of the mods also suggested "Sand and Snow Bikes".

    So, what sayeth y'all?

    Fatbike forum is kinda catchey, and we do have the ability to add a short description to the forum title (on the forum index page, anyway). So maybe:

    -Fatbike
    (Discuss sand and snow bikes here.)

    or something like that?

    Like previously stated, the name Winter forum would exclude Sand bikes.

    -g
    Winter is not what we're talkin' bout here. It's all about the machines and the "extreme" places to ride them. There will be some discussion of cold weather riding and gear, but that is just a part of the topic.

    FatBike Forum (Discuss sand/snow bikes and extrawide tires/rims)

    Besides, FatBike puts us further up the alphabetic listing than Winter or Snow
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    I think its Fat Back, not Fat Bike. Close, but not the same.

    //Yay! To echo all the others - forum name = Fat Bikes!
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    Isn't Fatbike a brand? Wildfire?

    That's the only reason why I thought the space should be put in ~ Fat bike
    Didn't they go through all this before with the whole Gary Fisher MountainBike thing? I started calling my bikes FatBikes in 2000 and, after everyone told me what a dumb name it was, it's been pretty much appropriated as the generic term. But if you call the forum Fat Bike I promise to hold back my teams of bloodthirsty lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildfire
    Didn't they go through all this before with the whole Gary Fisher MountainBike thing? I started calling my bikes FatBikes in 2000 and, after everyone told me what a dumb name it was, it's been pretty much appropriated as the generic term. But if you call the forum Fat Bike I promise to hold back my teams of bloodthirsty lawyers.

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    Any room for 36ers in there?

    I'd suggest 'Big and Tall', but there's too much confusion with the clydesdales with that name.

    I'm quite interested in the new forum, in any case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cartographer
    Any room for 36ers in there?
    I'd suggest 'Big and Tall', but there's too much confusion with the clydesdales with that name.
    I'm quite interested in the new forum, in any case.
    Nah, 36er's are the red-headed b*****d stepchild of bigger DIAMETER is better - not bigger WIDTH is better. We'll keep buggin' the 29er forum til they kick us out like they did the 69er/650b guys.
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    I'd be interested in the fat bike forum. Also curious to how they do on wet, rooty and rocky terrain. How much does your typical pugsley or other fat tire bike weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    I'd be interested in the fat bike forum. Also curious to how they do on wet, rooty and rocky terrain. How much does your typical pugsley or other fat tire bike weight?
    wait for it.

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    I only have a half-breed, but on last night's snow ride, the front Endo cruuuuuuuuuuuuuised! I can only imagine that with a fat rear also, it'd be float city. This was not from yesterday :



    This should be a fun forum...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartographer
    Any room for 36ers in there?
    How do those things do in snow? Seems like they might be just the ticket for unpacked snow; fat bikes can just end up being more work when you're trying to pack down a 4" wide swath of deep powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e
    How do those things do in snow? Seems like they might be just the ticket for unpacked snow; fat bikes can just end up being more work when you're trying to pack down a 4" wide swath of deep powder.

    I'll let you know if it ever snows again here on the Front Range...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e
    How do those things do in snow? Seems like they might be just the ticket for unpacked snow; fat bikes can just end up being more work when you're trying to pack down a 4" wide swath of deep powder.
    Maybe Ben will chime in on this himself.
    If I remember what he said right, something about the pugsley could ride in the tracks the 36” had made with out falling to far behind. What kind of snow ? I don’t know.

    Love to go for a sand ride with a pug and a 36” .
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    As a unicycle commuter from Saskatchewan I have plenty experience with a 36" wheel in snow. I have never used an endomorph tire but ride a 26X3" Gazzalodi on my Muni which some people use on fat bikes.

    I don't know how well it relates to bikes but personally I find that the 36 rolls better than the 26 when there is 4-6" of light snow over a solid base but the 26 has ever so slightly more float which helps when that solid base is not there. Using the Endomorph would probably help the 26 float that little bit better but also add to the resistance in the really powdery snow.

    So for pure floatation my money is on the fat bike but for speed in snow it could be a toss-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
    MTBR mods/admin, Can we get a fat bike/ snow bike forum already? Fat bikes meaning any bike using the 3.7 endomorph tire. Right now we are spread out all over the mtbr universe.

    The Surly forum has the most action on the subject. There is not much action over there; it’s a surly thing. Then we invade the 29er forum. The tires diameter is 29 inches and most bikes can use 29er wheels so they are tolerated there. Then you have the Alaska forum. The bikes original home. Recently there was a request to split the forum off and have a gear section. People there didn’t think there was enough action there to warrant an Alaskan gear forum. In the 650b and other tire trends forum there are almost no topics. I don’t feel that it’s because of lack of interest, but the wrong place.

    I do think that if there were a fat tire bike/ winter bike forum there would be a lot of interest. There are several companies embracing the tire, Surly, Speedway, Wild fire, Fire bike, Vicious, Black sheep, Jones, Retro tech/ Inglis, Moots (try and get one), DeSalvo, Carver and some others I missed feel free to add them.

    The topics could include, studded tires, winter gear, adding a fat front fork to your current bike. Summer sand riding, rims 50-65-80-100. Tubes and tires, racks, fenders and the general set up of these big bikes.

    I think this could work. We have a beer forum after all. Lets try it out and see. what’s the worst that can happen. The fat tire revolution has started get on or get run over.

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    here is a question:

    is anyone running one of these for just run of the mill mountain biking. You know technical riding, climbing, descending. Rocks, roots and drops, no snow or sand only rides just all arounding. Up down left right.

    I have seen the fat front but both ends fat, whole enchilada. normal non-extreme trails. dirt. rocks. singletrack.
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    yeah me. i posted pics of last weeks ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit
    yeah me. i posted pics of last weeks ride.
    yes you did thanks. Is this your only bike? I am so intrigued with these. I think that they would be killer for some of the rides I do in Arizona here. The big tires plus the low pressures would make technical descents and ascents fun I would think. Always looking for something cool to try out. Most importantly how do I convince my wife I need a puglsey? Oh and how do you rack them on your car?
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    and a long toe strap in the back. sorry for the short reply but i am saving myself for the real forum.

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    If you want to know the in'sNout's of a fatbike w/o extreme surfaces, check out selfpropelleddevo's thread:
    "It's a Pug's life"
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=179026

    IIRC, he has actually worn the tread off at least one set of tires. He's onto the Surly Big Dummy now.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester
    If you want to know the in'sNout's of a fatbike w/o extreme surfaces, check out selfpropelleddevo's thread:
    "It's a Pug's life"
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=179026

    IIRC, he has actually worn the tread off at least one set of tires. He's onto the Surly Big Dummy now.
    wow that sets the bar way too high. I don't think I could ever aspire to that level of riding. Amazing link. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher
    yes you did thanks. Is this your only bike? I am so intrigued with these. I think that they would be killer for some of the rides I do in Arizona here. The big tires plus the low pressures would make technical descents and ascents fun I would think. Always looking for something cool to try out. Most importantly how do I convince my wife I need a puglsey? Oh and how do you rack them on your car?
    I've ridden mine for a little over a year in everything and i love it. The only two detractors I can see from riding one all the time is their weight and the way they try to pull you uphill on off camber stuff but other than that I love it. It sticks to everything except mud really well and it's so stinking comfortable that it's hard for me to go back to even my full suspension bike sometimes.

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    i set out to make my second pug a bike i can ride all year around. my pug is about 28lbs. with a 2lbs seat. your pug is as heavy as you build it. if i put on my 29er wheels its 1lb lighter. with about 10 psi you can stop the wandering. it climbs great. if you treat it like a bike you put all of your old stuff on it will ride like a tank. no more tricks until we get out fat forum!

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    I'll add a few photos of my Quiring to keep this going in the mean time...

    It's a 29er frame that happens to fit a 3.0" x 26 rear tire. And of course it will fit an Endomorph in the front with a DeSalvo fat fork.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    It is so: http://forums.mtbr.com/forumdisplay.php?f=164

    Went live this morning. "Fat Bike"

    Hey, I found a handful of threads and pulled them in to the new forum, but due to the ah..."limitations" of our search, I didn't find a whole lot of "fat bike" or "winter bike" threads to pull in. If there is a better search term (yeah, I tried "fatbike" too)...lemme know...or if you guys have links to direct threads that should be moved over, LMK here and I'll migrate them.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregg
    It is so: http://forums.mtbr.com/forumdisplay.php?f=164

    Went live this morning. "Fat Bike"

    Hey, I found a handful of threads and pulled them in to the new forum, but due to the ah..."limitations" of our search, I didn't find a whole lot of "fat bike" or "winter bike" threads to pull in. If there is a better search term (yeah, I tried "fatbike" too)...lemme know...or if you guys have links to direct threads that should be moved over, LMK here and I'll migrate them.

    Thanks!

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    Maybe try "Pugsley" "Fatback" or "Wildfire" as those are the major ones.

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    and component names like Large Marge,
    Pug-tastic!
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...ht=large+marge

    Endomorph,
    Peep or post pics-o-Pugs
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    Speedway rims (80mm and 100mm).
    The Hunt for Wide Rims
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    80 and 100mm rims
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    Anybody else got some?

    Oh, and don't forget sand bike. Beach ride? Remolino rims!

    I note that I just picked a few off the searches, there are many more, but there was a fair bit of cross-referencing
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    For what it's worth, I say a fat bike forum is overdue.

    Anyone know who builds the Fatback frames; that is, who actually miters the tubes, does the welding, etc.? I've had a major boner for one of those for a while.
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    Desalvo - but if you pop into the Fat Bike forum and look up Wildfire, you'll find out for sure.
    Just a regular guy.

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    You can join the Surly Pugsley Google Group if you want to talk sand/snow/fat tire riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vik
    that photo gives me confidence that fat bikes aren't just snow machines and it gives me daydreams of epic varieties. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AteMrYeats
    For what it's worth, I say a fat bike forum is overdue.

    Anyone know who builds the Fatback frames; that is, who actually miters the tubes, does the welding, etc.? I've had a major boner for one of those for a while.

    I have two builders doing frames. One foreign and one domestic, neither of them DeSalvo. Feel free to PM or give a call if you are interested in a bike.
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    If you want more evidence that pug tires ride well off the snow check out
    http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journe...the-chupacabra

    Goat has gone through sets and sets of tires at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    yes you did thanks. Is this your only bike? I am so intrigued with these. I think that they would be killer for some of the rides I do in Arizona here. The big tires plus the low pressures would make technical descents and ascents fun I would think. Always looking for something cool to try out. Most importantly how do I convince my wife I need a puglsey? Oh and how do you rack them on your car?
    Follow my lead brother and insist on buying her one too! Could there be anything more romantic than full-moon-winter-lake-snow rides?!

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    weird post by johnny...nice bump though...was nice to read the birth of this awesome forum!

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    Most of us are still here riding fatbikes which says a lot about these fun bikes
    Thanks again Big Hit for setting this up,
    and its still a great forum today where all are welcome and there is still a real good fresh vibe
    plan it...build it....ride it...love it....
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    your welcome, i bring the freshest of fresh ideas to life.

    seriously, i just launched a limited line of Undergroundvelo Urban Decay Tee Shirts.
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