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    Stem backwards. My present bike is up and as far back as it will go. Not upright enough. Neck pain and pressure on old wrists. The stem trick may be my salvation. Dolomite on the way and I will definitely reverse the stem. Genius. Thanks!!! My riding will be far more enjoyable now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    ... Not upright enough. Neck pain and pressure on old wrists. The stem trick may be my salvation. ...
    Or BMX bars.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11049131

    Do find that list of things to grease, etc., preferably before you ride it to maximize bearing life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    Stem backwards. My present bike is up and as far back as it will go. Not upright enough. Neck pain and pressure on old wrists. The stem trick may be my salvation. Dolomite on the way and I will definitely reverse the stem. Genius. Thanks!!! My riding will be far more enjoyable now.
    Check out this or search for adjustable bike stem. Just make sure you get rize stem size. Amazon.com : Ritchey Adjustable 31.8 100mm Black Road Stem : Bike Stems And Parts : Sports & Outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Got it.
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    First ride.

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    (sorry the stem is 180 out, I have back problems)
    Quote Originally Posted by FatBikeNoob View Post
    Check out this or search for adjustable bike stem. Just make sure you get rize stem size. Amazon.com : Ritchey Adjustable 31.8 100mm Black Road Stem : Bike Stems And Parts : Sports & Outdoors

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    Jamis has adjustable stem. Still not enough. Reversal the trick. On the dolo, if stem reversed, how does it affect riding characteristics? Or does it?

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    what valve stem size and style are on the dolomite.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    Stem backwards. My present bike is up and as far back as it will go. Not upright enough. Neck pain and pressure on old wrists. The stem trick may be my salvation. Dolomite on the way and I will definitely reverse the stem. Genius. Thanks!!! My riding will be far more enjoyable now.
    You might try out some handlebars like the On One Marys. On-One Mary Handlebar I knew before I got my Fatty that them flat wide strait bars had to go. On this bike I was amazed at the difference it made. All my bikes have similar bars.

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    on one tires black 20% off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Got it.
    Assembled.
    First ride.

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    (sorry the stem is 180 out, I have back problems)
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    An example from March 2014.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/oth...l#post11064896
    That site had them in black (one link/part listing) but are sold out as I write this, or in colors (another link/part listing; currently green & pink in stock).

    A US link, but more $.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/col...l#post11289423
    just ordered 2 tires. 90 bucks shipped. Use paypal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Got it.
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    First ride.

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    (sorry the stem is 180 out, I have back problems)
    from UK site

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    what size tire tube

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    what size tire tube
    If you want to save weight, this is what I use:
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    ...On the dolo, if stem reversed, how does it affect riding characteristics? Or does it?
    When stock is reversed, the head tube angle results in the stem going downwards, feeling somewhat wrong, but it's livable. With an adjustable stem (or a raised stem), you can raise it up and it feels right again.
    I haven't tried the BMX bars with the stock stem, but I'd expect you can have the stem out front and be fine. And the BMX is an ~8" rise, so you've got a lot to play with.

    Tube & rim opening are schrader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Replaced the stock bottom bracket bearings. ...I had a spare set of new cups & bearings sitting around for the Beast. They fit the Dolo.
    YST Sealed BSA Cupset with Bearings (for under $10).
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    Looks like we may have an alternate soon, in a Sealed Cartridge Bearing at 100mm.
    VP Components VP-BC63
    Expected to be in the $20 range.
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    UPDATE: from the distributor: J&B Importers stocks it which means most every bikeshop in America has access to special order one.

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    Currently: The BC-63 is available in 11 sizes between 137.5mm and 164mm. They skip every 2-3mm just like 68/73mm shell but nothing even close to the 189mm you are looking for.
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    I hope that my lbs will stock that bottom bracket> I like the Idea of a sealed bb for
    my dolomite. Found some gently used Vee Mission tires at my lbs as well as some surly tires for my son's brutus,. It cost me for all four tires and two tubes and mounting right at eighty dollars. The tires were swapped for some "city slicks" so they could use their bikes solely as a commuter. the missions should run real nice on my Dolomite. I haven't had a chance to ride since Monday because I spent Monday and Tuesday in the hospital due to a minor malfunction of my defib in my chest. Monday it misfired and knocked me back into my chair. My cardiologist -had the thing adjusted and now I am fine. Tomorrow I will start riding again. BTW I also picked up a new saddle from the spare parts bin five bucks and a megarange f0r eight,

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    I hope that my lbs will stock that bottom bracket...
    They're just out.
    Special order by your LBS from J&B Importers. As of this afternoon, not even listed on their web site yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ...minor malfunction of my defib in my chest. Monday it misfired and knocked me back into my chair. My cardiologist -had the thing adjusted ... I also picked up a new saddle from the spare parts bin five bucks and a megarange f0r eight,
    misfired and knocked you back into a chair?
    that's what they call minor?
    (where'd they get it, the same place you got the saddle and the megarange?)
    I hope they had an awfully good explanation on why it happened and why it won't happen again.
    Sure don't want that happening while you're riding!

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    Canoe-
    My defib is a combo unit With a pace maker too. It is 5 years old and due for a battery replacement and Upgrade. the Doc explained that I was the unlucky recipient of a shock, because the battery is almost gone and they are going to replace it next Monday. I wonder who built it Cateye maybe Or Bell? Lol or maybe some other discount bike place. Ands I do thank you for your comments. they made me laugh.

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    the defib/pacemaker misread my heart rythnms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ... I wonder who built it Cateye maybe Or Bell? Lol or maybe some other discount bike place. ...
    As long as it wasn't by Mongoose,
    or something they got from Walmart...

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    Lol, or worse yet kmart. by the way academy sports has dolomites for $249.

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    Just ordered a Brutus for my son. It was 199 plus shipping. He saw a picture of it and said it looked like a bee. at our cabin it will work great on the gravel and dirt roads out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    Just ordered a Brutus for my son...
    The one speed, coaster brake, 26" rims, same as the Beast?
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/mon...l#post10900720

    Compare to the Dolo here http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11051083

    And here you have a Massif, Dozer/Beast/Brutus and a Dolomite. DOLOMITE GALLERY | Rat Rod Bikes

    He could certainly learn a lot if he start modifying it... but the cost quickly approaches a Dolo.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/mon...ns-846664.html

    For older kids, and some adults, some are starting with the Massif (20" rims, disc brakes, 7 speed) and building up.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/mas...l#post11115096

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    Son's Brutus

    Canoe:
    Thanks for your input. The main reason we are getting him a single speed coater brake Brutus is that he doesn't have the motor skills to activate the hand brakes or shifters. He was born with autism and motor skill challenges. He is 28 almost 29 and loves to ride bikes. He has a hand me down mongoose bmx bike but it's way too small.

    My Bikes: a $7 Schwinn phantom, Trek Marin single speed and a '67 Schwinn road bike
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    Its a 1947 Phantom with the original springer fork and stripped of fenders rear rack and tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    ... he doesn't have the motor skills to activate the hand brakes or shifters...
    Understood.
    If he needs easier pedaling, you can go for a larger gear at the rear. You might have to file the dropouts to let the axle forward a tiny bit (1/8") with the stock chain.

    It should be the same stock tire as the Dolo, but if you need to limit his speed, remember to let some air out of the tires. A friend controls the top speed of her child's bike that way. If he can handle more speed, you know about 120 tpi tires and a lighter tube for an easier roll, and an appropriate rear gear.

    For another with steering challenges, we made that more stable for that child's needs with careful selection of the pressure in the front tire. For another, a bike with both a rear lever activated rim brake with coaster brake so he could "learn". He finally was using only the lever brake, so he "graduated" to a kids mountain with levers for front & rear. Watching closely, as he's still coasting and delaying while he looks to see which lever(s) as he's used to one.
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    Canoe:
    He and I went for as ride and he used the Phantom. I rode the Dolo With the new tires(The surly Larry 3.8)) He worked the brakes well and It was just an around the block ride to see how he could handle a bigger bike. Both of us did well. we made three laps , about three miles of sidewalk/path path. He did put his feet down but by the middle of lap two he was using his feet on the coaster brakes. He is 5'9" and weighs 160. I am just waiting for the bike to arrive for him. they say monday next week.

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    is anyone having trouble with the stock Shimano Tourney derailleur's inability to hold the chain on the 34t cog?

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    I missed this earlier
    Mongoose Argus - Alloy Fat Bike
    2◊10 drivetrain, hydraulic disc brakes, 100mm cutout rims, 4″ Vee Mission tires, 0 stack headset, three sizes (SM, MD, LG), ~34.35 lbs.
    $999
    First Look: 2015 Mongoose Argus ‚Äď alloy framed fat bike | Mountain Bike Review

    Another site says they'll be selling direct to the consumer.

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    (I've no issues yet with the 34T.)

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    I saw the thread for it too.....maybe when I do my taxes I will be able to afford one. I had to tinker with the adjustment but it works fine I haven't had a use for the 34t. as far as the Argus goes I hope that it is as good as they say the videos were ok. I will probably keep the Dolomite for hauling groceries
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    Canoe - As far as the new mongoose goes I wonder just who will handle them? LBS? Or mail order direct from Pacific?

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    Thanks skota. Canoe: I finally got the the tire pressure figured out 10psi for all around riding. My son needs a little less like 8psi. We went for a ride this afternoon. Went to national forest recreation area and rode for a hour and a half. a few climbs and a lot of loose gravel alongside a creek. I was pretty tired when I got home and so was my daughter. Weight loss for the week two pounds (289). Found out that the creek is a blue ribbon trout area so we are planning to bring the trailer and our fly fishing gear Saturday. (and a little beer for a treat after we ride.

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    By the way UPS brought my son's bike toady. After fifteen minute of assembly he rode around the apartment. Gonna post some pics as soon as my daughter retrieves her camera from her storage.

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    just put mine together and went for a ride. Very flat canal trail. Didnt use 34 gear til the end, going up hill in parking lot. It jumped off. Just wanted to see what bike was like before I start with the improvements. Didn't even check tire pressure. Didn't look low. What a beast. Wore me out. With seat at right height, front bars sucked. Too low for me. Earlier recommended on-one Marys a definite thought. Definitely need something with a longer tube. Don't think just reversing the stem will help or an adjustable. That thing needs to come up and hands back. Got the new megarange. Waiting for new bearings and other stuff. Will then go to LBS and get tuned. Hopefully no shift issues then. Thumb shifter has arrived. Tires on the way in August. Not many decent mid drive options for this bike. 100mm BB eliminates the ones I really wanted. Oh well. Keep searching

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    just put mine together ... Didnt use 34 gear til the end, ... It jumped off.
    If it's stock, the lowest is 28T. Some megarange go to 34T.
    Cables may need adjusting, and it's common for cables to stretch with initial use and need readjusting.

    > Didn't even check tire pressure. Didn't look low.
    Dolos usually arrive over inflated. For fat bikes, you adjust the tire pressure for the best ride on the terrain you're on. Many fat bike newbies ride their fat bikes with way too much psi.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11090431

    Different tire pressure can make for a very different ride.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    You'll have to play around with the PSI to find what works for you. Try from six to 15 PSI, by 1 lbs steps. Then once you're close to what you like, vary by 1/2 lbs. steps.
    Different ground = different PSI.
    > front bars sucked. Too low for me.
    A number of bars possible. As are adjustable stems. And there's always BMX bars.

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    Just started looking into front suspension forks for my Dolo. Won't be doing anything extreme on the bike. Can't seem to find anything reasonably priced yet. Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    Just started looking into front suspension forks for my Dolo. Won't be doing anything extreme on the bike. ...
    Start with what would you be doing with a Dolo that you need more front suspension beyond what a front fat provides?

    Talking front suspension has you sounding like you're heading beyond the few basic parts that improve one's Dolo experience (plus paying a LBS to do it?) and into bigger bucks for suspension forks that may cost more than everything else so far.
    You could quickly find yourself in territory where having spent that total money on a better bike to start with, would give you much more bike.

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    i had no idea how expensive they are. I guess there is no such bird as an inexpensive suspension fork. not much of a used bike or parts in my area either.I think they haven't been making them for fattys very long either. oh well. It was just an idea
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Got it.
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    First ride.

    Attachment 875305

    (sorry the stem is 180 out, I have back problems)

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    i had no idea how expensive they are. I guess there is no such bird as an inexpensive suspension fork. not much of a used bike or parts in my area either.I think they haven't been making them for fattys very long either. oh well. It was just an idea
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    I found that the Fat tires more than make up for the lack of a suspension fork. Is the geometry of the Dolomite suitable for a suspension for k in the first place? Or is that rock shock made to work on a Dolomite?
    My dolomite is plenty cushy for me,

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbear52 View Post
    I found that the Fat tires more than make up for the lack of a suspension fork. Is the geometry of the Dolomite suitable for a suspension for k in the first place? Or is that rock shock made to work on a Dolomite?
    My dolomite is plenty cushy for me,
    Good questions. I need to play with air pressures more. And get more seat time before I think about it any more. Upgrades tomorrow except new tires. At some point it will become electric. Then I may have to think about it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Mongoose Argus - Alloy Fat Bike
    2◊10 drivetrain, hydraulic disc brakes, 100mm cutout rims, 4″ Vee Mission tires, 0 stack headset, three sizes (SM, MD, LG), ~34.35 lbs.
    $999
    First Look: 2015 Mongoose Argus ‚Äď alloy framed fat bike | Mountain Bike Review

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    That's a big box brand for you. They still go with $999 instead of $1000.
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    Gearing, I need to know about the low range Ö. I do a lot of riding on the beach and now I'm towing this trailer using beast wheels. I'm in the first gear , the granny gear a lot of the time on the trek bike, but then the second gear is quite a jump . from what I saw the spacing of the gears is pretty close? Is is low enough for me? could I change out the front chain ring to get me into a better lower range?

    also, I don't see any fat bike on their website? how many gears does this have? is it a x1 or x2 on the front?

    yeah, I'm in the market for a fat bike to replace that trek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spidennis View Post
    Gearing, I need to know about the low range Ö. I do a lot of riding on the beach and now I'm towing this trailer using beast wheels. I'm in the first gear , the granny gear a lot of the time on the trek bike, but then the second gear is quite a jump . from what I saw the spacing of the gears is pretty close? Is is low enough for me? could I change out the front chain ring to get me into a better lower range?

    also, I don't see any fat bike on their website? how many gears does this have? is it a x1 or x2 on the front?

    yeah, I'm in the market for a fat bike to replace that trek.
    The Argus isn't out yet. Coming.

    You can use lower teeth count chainrings and get into easier pedaling.
    Same for larger rears.

    To compare gears from one bike to another, use Gear Inches. If you're in your granny you know how that feels. Same for your high gear. Calculate what those are in Gear Inches, then if you calculate Gear Inches for bike's you're looking at (or new components for your drive), you have an idea what to expect. For example, knowing all the gears lets you know they'll be a jump between the granny and the next one, or is the lowest just very low and the rest spaced evenly from there.

    Back in this thread, there are a number of posts showing the stock gearing of the Dolo vs. some easy and cheap upgrades of the freewheel and chainrings, in gear inches. There's even making a custom stack freewheel so there's useful gears without big jumps.

    If you measure the diameter of your tire and give me the count of the teeth on the front chainring, and the gears on the back, I'll give you the gear inches for you.
    Or try here Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Gear Calculator

    Easy by hand
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    Or you can incorporate the crank arm length to get a Gain Ratio to compare the whole of the mechanical advantage from one setup to another.
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    Stem raiser and short adjustable stem ordered from Amazon. This should get the bar up and back and may allow for a variety of handle par choices with this greater adjustability

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    what type of spray paint should be used if I paint the handle bars

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    Does anyone know what the stock crank arm length is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byookanun View Post
    Does anyone know what the stock crank arm length is?

    pretty sure its at 170 x36T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Looks like we may have an alternate soon, in a Sealed Cartridge Bearing at 100mm.
    VP Components VP-BC63
    Expected to be in the $20 range.
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    UPDATE: from the distributor: J&B Importers stocks it which means most every bikeshop in America has access to special order one.
    Any word on the spindle length of this...will it be wide enough for a 190 rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris7047th View Post
    Well your reason was flawed. But if you don't want one .. that's different. You read me wrong. I have no problem with you enjoying whatever you buy, but there are those reading these forums looking for advice or just trying to figure which way to go. To infer that fat bikes are just good for winter just isn't so. To each their own .. but lets be honest what fat bikes can do.
    ..just thought Iíd comment on what I highlighted in blue.

    You come off as a dick who feels everyone should buy a piggy because YOU feel itís the best thing in the universe.

    Itís clear there are better options out there. But you take it to a level of pure annoyance. Any advice you have posted I will read it and disregard because youíre clearly ignorant when it comes to being helpful.

    Reason for my post here: I own both the Dolomite & Beast and before I even had either bike I lurked around this forum reading what helpful posts others provided.

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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite

    That was posted 4 months ago
    By the way, she doesn't have a dick

    Pedaling

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    I am a new Dolomite owner. Owned the Mongoose Beast for nearly two months now. The Dolomite for a week. Iím unsure which one I like better.. but I will say the Dolomite looks like a great bike and itís build quality is much higher than the Beast. Should fit my needs quite well roaming the neighborhood and hauling back beer to the house!

    Best part.. I paid $225 for it at walmart, new (not a returned item). Down side is I had to take a 7hr round trip to go pick it up.
    I was going to order online but if I didnít like it, mailing it back is a pain in the ass. Walmart already sent me a replacement beast due to bent rims on the first one sent. 2nd unit is perfect but you canít simply return online products to local stores










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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    That was posted 4 months ago
    By the way, she doesn't have a dick

    Pedaling
    I know it was 4 months ago. But Iíve read other posts on this forum from the same member. If not a dick then sounds like a *****. Take it or leave it!


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    I'm shopping for my 1st Fat Bike and at I was going to pass on this bike and move on to something nicer but now I'm thinking maybe this bike isn't all that bad. I mean look how many $1,000 or more bikes have mechanical brakes vs hydraulic. Are those bikes really worth the extra money. I'd love a full suspension but $4,000 for the Bucksaw is too high for me. I only make $35,000 so throwing 11.5% percent of an entire years wages at a bicycle is not going to happen.

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    Well the key is what exactly are you buying the bike for??

    I could afford a $3k fat tire bike but thatís like me buying a sports car - Iíd never use it for itís reason of life.

    Thatís why I feel so great about the Beast and Dolomite Looks cool. Works just fine. And fits the needs of just staying active and getting outside around my neighborhood.

    ..now I wouldnít go jumping dirt ramps or playing chicken with trees out in the woods on these bikes!!

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    Does anyone have any pics of how the front chainring attaches to the crankarm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidennis View Post
    and can another chain ring be added?
    To the original crankset? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byookanun View Post
    Does anyone have any pics of how the front chainring attaches to the crankarm?
    and can another chain ring be added?

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    anyone ride this bike thru deep soft sand yet? are the gears low enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidennis View Post
    anyone ride this bike thru deep soft sand yet? are the gears low enough?
    They are not low enough.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11319377

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    My current (loaner) bike has a mega range on it. I found it mentioned (somewhere) that it works on the Dolo too? Is this it? Amazon.com : Shimano 7 Speed Freewheel, 14-34, MegaRange : Bike Cassettes And Freewheels : Sports & Outdoors

    Bicycles parts I don't know too much about, off road motorcycles I am much better at ÖÖ I think I can get the hang of all this?

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    I donít know much about parts either..

    I assume this is for the rear??

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidennis View Post
    My current (loaner) bike has a mega range on it. I found it mentioned (somewhere) that it works on the Dolo too? Is this it? Amazon.com : Shimano 7 Speed Freewheel, 14-34, MegaRange : Bike Cassettes And Freewheels : Sports & Outdoors
    That's the one I put on my Dolo (I really like it), I also bought a Park Tool FR-1 to remove the stock freewheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _flatline_ View Post
    That's the one I put on my Dolo (I really like it), I also bought a Park Tool FR-1 to remove the stock freewheel.
    Here's a pic of it. yes, it goes on the back. Now if I can find out how to put a two ring on the front then I'd be golden.
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    Yep, that's the one I put on mine.

    I haven't replaced the front chain ring (yet), maybe in the future.
    I'll have to check out You Tube for some how to.

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    One concern I'd like to point out is the tire popping out of the rim.
    On the beast the front tire popped out a few hours after riding. It was parked and just blew out on the front. So bad it locked up the front. Super glad I want riding cause im sure I would have flipped. After the lbs greased my hubs and seated the tries it hasn't happened again..

    Then with the dolomite the rear tire popped out at slow speeds about a mile from home. Let air out and tried to pop it back in with no luck. So it was a long walk home.

    Needless to say I don't feel safe going fast on these but do trust em to roam slow

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    Mongoose dolomite at the beach - YouTube
    here's a youtube of a Dolo in sand, and he's having to stand on it.

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    That's me riding in the sand... The bike really needs a Megarange freewheel. But that video was shot after a 6 mile ride, all in the sand, and several times in the water up to the middle if the wheels, So I was pretty tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    One concern I'd like to point out is the tire popping out of the rim. ...After the lbs greased my hubs and seated the tries it hasn't happened again...
    Too many people riding these with the tire pressure they arrive with. Check your tire pressure.

    Different, dual or triple front?
    Others have covered in this thread what they did. Check the posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Too many people riding these with the tire pressure they arrive with. Check your tire pressure.

    Different, dual or triple front?
    Others have covered in this thread what they did. Check the posts.
    Regarding the tire pressure, they came with about 5psi on both bikes. The beast when I got it I pressured up to I think 25 psi. Now I have them both at a solid 20 psi and seems to be fairly tight and roll well.

    The dolomite I pumped to 20 psi as it was also sitting at 5psi at the store. I did seat the tire to make it even all around. I figure I go slow the first couple weeks on em. Plus I am waiting for my fat ass seat to come in. The stock seat is far too skinny for my taste!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oops View Post
    Any word on the spindle length of this...will it be wide enough for a 190 rear
    I got this. All I got.
    Quote Originally Posted by VP
    ...BC-73 bottombracket in 100mm shell width. To my knowledge none of our US distributors have purchased any in part because those bikes are still new for the most part and its hard to determine the proper specs for service items that last as long as a BB. Also the axle lengths are 137.5, 140 142, 143, 145, 147, 149.5, 151.5, 153, 154.5, & 164.
    UPDATE: 2014-08-15
    Quote Originally Posted by VP-USA
    Currently: The BC-63 is available in 11 sizes between 137.5mm and 164mm. They skip every 2-3mm just like 68/73mm shelld but nothing even close to the 189mm you are looking for.
    Last edited by Canoe; 08-15-2014 at 10:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    ... I was going to order online but if I didnít like it, mailing it back is a pain in the ass....2nd unit is perfect but you canít simply return online products to local stores...
    Or you can order online with delivery to a local store for you to pickup.

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    So who is going to be the first person with a Mongoose Argus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squashman View Post
    So who is going to be the first person with a Mongoose Argus!
    I doubt it will sell like the Dolomite. $1,000 can get you a bike with a better reputation. That kinda like Ford saying the base package Focus will be $45,000 next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squashman View Post
    So who is going to be the first person with a Mongoose Argus!
    not for that price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I doubt it will sell like the Dolomite. $1,000 can get you a bike with a better reputation. That kinda like Ford saying the base package Focus will be $45,000 next year.
    I wholly concur.

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    Not for $1000! I am not a serious rider to justify that kind of cash!

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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite

    Are you serious on that price? $1k? No way

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    Does anyone know the axle nut size...of the Dolomite?

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    Considering the dolomite right now, but want to know if anyone is putting some real distance on this thing and how it is holding up. Also is there anyone around 6 foot tall that is able to fit this bike correctly after making some adjustments. I did see "The Beast" model at Walmart and being 6 foot, the frame felt too small, maybe like a 16-18 inch which always feels small for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdventureRider View Post
    Considering the dolomite right now, but want to know if anyone is putting some real distance on this thing and how it is holding up. Also is there anyone around 6 foot tall that is able to fit this bike correctly after making some adjustments. I did see "The Beast" model at Walmart and being 6 foot, the frame felt too small, maybe like a 16-18 inch which always feels small for me.
    I am 6í4 and I find both bikes comfortable however I just roam the neighborhood so Iím not doing much when it comes to being awesome.

    Being I own both bikes.. I like both equally the same in terms of comfort. The beast is a slow rider and the frame fits me with about 8Ē of lift on the seat.

    The Dolomite is also comfortable however I will be buying a set of BMX handlebars like the ones found on the Beast. The handlebars sit a bit low for my taste..

    I have about 20 miles on my Beast so far.

    About 5 miles on the Dolomite.

    The Dolomite feels far more solid than the Beast in terms of quality and assembly. Other than a loose set of range gears (whatever you guys call em around here) the Dolomite is a great bike and offers great value for the price of $225 I paid in store a couple weeks ago!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Byookanun View Post
    Does anyone know the axle nut size...of the Dolomite?
    Iím a ďnoobĒ so I am just going to assume you mean the nut that holds the wheel/hub to the frame of the bike.

    Itís a 15mm socket (just verified now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    I tried to go where "the deer (but no antelope) play" - was a "no-go" for the sage-brushy/rocky/steep stuff... I ended up staying on roads & an ATV track for the ride. About 45 degrees F. Rainy & sleety ("graupel" here in Missoula...) Tires were at about 16 PSI. Saw a fox, several mule deer, ospreys & hawks. Some Bob-whites... Sunny when I started but the left side of my head was numb by the time I got home - wind from the SW & rainy...
    Attachment 880483I couldn't make any headway as there were too many rocks hidden in the grass. Also it was real steep here. (I needed a lower gear yet than what I had with the Shimano Magarange (13-34) freewheel and the 28-38-48 front chain-rings.) I was trying to follow the mule-deer & elk trails on this hillside near Iron Cap on the east side of the Bitterroot Valley.
    Attachment 880484Looking South over Iron Cap. About 45 degrees F, windy with mixed rain and sleet ("graupel" here near Missoula, MT). I'm panning left to right in the following pics...
    Attachment 880485Now looking S, SW over Iron Cap.Attachment 880486Looking west
    Attachment 880487 Now oriented North West... that's the "Big Ditch" at the bottom of the pic. Irrigation system on the East side of the valley - dry this time of year.
    Attachment 880488 Looking East toward the Sapphire Mountains... tires for this ride were at 16 PSI. (contributed to my issues on the rocky terrain - wanted to "bounce" off rather than conform & climb over!)
    Attachment 880489 Looking East down the Maintenance road along the irrigation ditch (gated road, so no vehicular traffic...)
    Attachment 880490 End of ride. It was too wet to shear any more sheep today - so "played hooky" while the wife was in town w/her mom. Cold, hot & sweaty - all at one time! (My wife asks me "Why is this 'fun?!?'")
    I just wanted to post up and say I truly enjoyed your photos that you posted! Looked like an awesome ride! (Iím more of an ďactiveĒ person when rain/clouds lurk the sky above me).

    Thanks for postings your photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdventureRider View Post
    Considering the dolomite right now, but want to know if anyone is putting some real distance on this thing and how it is holding up. Also is there anyone around 6 foot tall that is able to fit this bike correctly after making some adjustments. I did see "The Beast" model at Walmart and being 6 foot, the frame felt too small, maybe like a 16-18 inch which always feels small for me.
    I am 5 foot 8. This cock pit way to stetched out for me. When seat at right height has me very far forward. You probably have longer arms. I want cruiser to easier MTB trails. Getting the things already suggested. You are going to have to make this cockpit your own. I have ordered a ste raiser and a short adjustable stem. I want a 45 degree sweep trekking bar as well. With some rise. Jones loop looks awesome except price. New to all this, but seems getting the cockpit right and the already mentioned upgrades is key. Cockpit key!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    I am 6í4 and I find both bikes comfortable however I just roam the neighborhood so Iím not doing much when it comes to being awesome.

    Being I own both bikes.. I like both equally the same in terms of comfort. The beast is a slow rider and the frame fits me with about 8Ē of lift on the seat.

    The Dolomite is also comfortable however I will be buying a set of BMX handlebars like the ones found on the Beast. The handlebars sit a bit low for my taste..

    I have about 20 miles on my Beast so far.

    About 5 miles on the Dolomite.

    The Dolomite feels far more solid than the Beast in terms of quality and assembly. Other than a loose set of range gears (whatever you guys call em around here) the Dolomite is a great bike and offers great value for the price of $225 I paid in store a couple weeks ago!

    I want you to tour on your dolamite for 400 miles along the CA coast, and tell me how everything goes. Take video, pictures, and a daily diary for the bicycle blog you will create. Document which parts fail and what you replaced them with. I would also like to see pictures of the tire tread after those 400 miles. Travel light...frame bag, rollable tent up front, and the large touring compression rear saddle bag for the rear.

    Tips would be to bring rema vulcanizing fluid and rema patches for flats and a bicycle specific multi-tool. Do this, and tell me after this journey that you wouldn't do it again to prove that you are not serious about riding.
    ------

    Or don't. Any way that dolamite does look slick. Looks like you need more seat post. Definitely look into a stem riser to get those bars higher as well if you do decide to take some longer trips here and there perhaps. This bike would be way too small for me, as I hear it would be about a 17.5 inch frame.

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    Jason,
    Got any pics of your Dolomite to share?
    Thanks

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    Would someone please supply the Dolomite fork length in mm? Can't seem to find this info. Thanks

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    also the rake in mm. I called Pacific Cycles. No help. Google no help either.

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    I finally got a chance to install the replacement seat, adj.stem and trekking bar today.
    Took a little "shakedown" ride and must say I like the more upright position very comfortable.

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolo1.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolo4.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolo6.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolo3.jpg

    I'll put in a few miles tomorrow to acquaint myself with the trekking bar configuration.
    The mods came in at around $100.
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    I need to replace my rear gears. Not sure what you guys call them but the 7 speed gear set is loose and clunks when peddling

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    These are on Target.com for $249.99 w/ shipping in stock last night. I just about got one on impulse since they are harder to come by at that price by then after thinking about how dumb it is that its a one size frame and the fact that it needs $500 in upgrades I figured I'd hold out for something else. Anyway they were in stock if anyone wants one.

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    I want to change out the crankset. I know the shell is 100mm but how long of a spindle width do I need for the bottom bracket?

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    Re: The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite

    Quote Originally Posted by Byookanun View Post
    I want to change out the crankset. I know the shell is 100mm but how long of a spindle width do I need for the bottom bracket?
    The factory spindle is 189mm...you can swap cranks without changing the BB..

    sent from my GS3 with my thumbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by oops View Post
    The factory spindle is 189mm...you can swap cranks without changing the BB..

    sent from my GS3 with my thumbs
    Yeah but the bottom bracket is crap and heavy. I'd like to swap it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byookanun View Post
    Yeah but the bottom bracket is crap and heavy. I'd like to swap it all.
    The sealed cap & bearings set for the BB is really nice. There's the cartridge that's just out that's expected to be ~$20. If you start going for the really nice sets, watch out as if you do that for everything, as you'll very quickly spend more on parts than you spent on the bike (and more so if you're paying someone to do the work for you), with a combined cost more than an already complete "real" fat bike with better quality components all the way around. Perhaps for what you want, starting with a Dolomite is not the best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    The sealed cap & bearings set for the BB is really nice. There's the cartridge that's just out that's expected to be ~$20. If you start going for the really nice sets, watch out as if you do that for everything, as you'll very quickly spend more on parts than you spent on the bike (and more so if you're paying someone to do the work for you), with a combined cost more than an already complete "real" fat bike with better quality components all the way around. Perhaps for what you want, starting with a Dolomite is not the best option.

    Actually I am upgrading everything on the bike except the wheelset. All the parts I am using is stuff I already have. And I do my own work. BOOM!!!

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    _flatline_. Nice pics. Like those trekking bars. Makes me think of a mountain goat. What model is that seat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    _flatline_. Nice pics. Like those trekking bars. Makes me think of a mountain goat. What model is that seat?
    Thank you steve1324.
    The seat is a Nashbar SC-1.
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    Very comfortable indeed.
    The bars with the addition of an adjustable stem give me the ability to stand nearly upright, which I find to be pretty cool.

    I'm very pleased with the upgrades. They make the Dolomite a super bike for my needs. I still want to change the front chain ring to a 20something. Even though I did put a Megarange freewheel on I want to go super low.
    I wanna pull stumps rather than jump them.
    Thanks again,
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    After having some ride time in on both bikes..

    The disc brakes suck on the front of my bike. The back will lock up the tires at a decent speed. Took a lot of minor adjustments but at least the back is legit.

    The Dolomite is HEAVY. Geez. It makes my Beast feel lite. Itís quite a noticeable difference. This is with the 21t rear cog installed on the beast over factory 18.

    Overall, Iím happy with both bikes. Both serve their purpose.





    Oh yeah, got my new bike plate in the mail.. I wanted a red/white plate and the only authentic one I could find is from hawaii

    Also got a new seat. Itís okay. I need to break it in more but itís not as comfortable as my $11 special seat I got for the beast!



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    _flatline_ I have read somewhere. that many have used 3 gear cranks. Outside one used as a bash guard. Manually moving chain to one of the 2 gears. Others have just got a new gear with lower teeth count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    _flatline_ I have read somewhere. that many have used 3 gear cranks. Outside one used as a bash guard. Manually moving chain to one of the 2 gears. Others have just got a new gear with lower teeth count.
    I have an old Jamis Cross Country with BioPace chain rings. I will see if I can swap the rings and crank arms.
    Thanks steve1324

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    Quote Originally Posted by _flatline_ View Post
    I have an old Jamis Cross Country with BioPace chain rings. I will see if I can swap the rings and crank arms.
    Thanks steve1324
    . Lol. My other bike is a Jamis

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    Jamis makes a good bike.
    my other bike is a tadpole.
    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-donkey-6.jpg

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    Just ordered my shimano mega range.

    I figured I might as well.. may be nice having that mega range to use from time to time. And Iím taking my rear wheel to the local bike shop later this week to have him grease the rear hub for me and install this part. I found it online for $10 cheaper than amazon. $18 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    Just ordered my shimano mega range.

    I figured I might as well.. may be nice having that mega range to use from time to time. And Iím taking my rear wheel to the local bike shop later this week to have him grease the rear hub for me and install this part. I found it online for $10 cheaper than amazon. $18 shipped.
    SWEET! I think you will like it.
    You may want to take your whole bike to your lbs so they can be sure the derailleur is adjusted correctly. I had to play with the "B" screw to aid in shifting the big ole 34T cog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _flatline_ View Post
    SWEET! I think you will like it.
    You may want to take your whole bike to your lbs so they can be sure the derailleur is adjusted correctly. I had to play with the "B" screw to aid in shifting the big ole 34T cog.
    I may just do that.. He charged me $20 last time I took just both wheels in for the beast to service the hubs and reseat the tires for me. I thought that was a fair price.. So I may just take the whole bike in and have him work his magic for me if possible.

    Last time I went in there he kept referring to my tires as ďmotorcycleĒ tires that stunk lol he was a cool guy though. I was a bit worried at first when I took the tires in there and told him what bike it was off of cause I know lbs donít like cheapy box store bikes but for my use & needs he agreeíd it was a great bike for itís primary use in my life! So needless to say i feel better going back again without feeling like an insignificant fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    Iím a ďnoobĒ so I am just going to assume you mean the nut that holds the wheel/hub to the frame of the bike.

    Itís a 15mm socket (just verified now)

    Thread size, not wrench size.

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    Has anybody found a good kick stand to use on these bikes? The one that comes with the bike is not adequate. I was thinking about one of the double stand that mounts under the center, but an not sure it will work because elf the angled plate. I will eagerly await the replies... Thanks...

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    What is a kickstand?

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    longest ride (road) yet on the Dolo...

    I rode from Florence into Missoula Montana yesterday to see a matinee movie. It was 19.33 miles via my route into town and took 1 hour and 21 minutes (I had a medium headwind the whole trip in.) & my average speed was over 14 MPH.
    Coming back I had a stronger(!) headwind & by using an alternate (less traffic & more scenic) route & taking a smalll detour to visit friends I added just over 5 miles to that leg of the trip. Here are the totals for distance, avg. speed, time, etc.

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-05aug14-flrnce-msla_rd-collage.jpg

    Needless to say, the headwind on the way back was a bit of a "killer" & my stop to visit in Lolo for about an hour & a half was NOT good for the legs! :\

    All good now! The dropped bars definitely helped going into the wind!

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    Mods summary from 02 & 15 July 2014...

    I realized I haven't been keeping up w/posting my mods on my Dolo...

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-rear3-4thsvwmods-02jul14.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-newcockpit-02jul14.jpg

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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-frntrackdtl-02jul14.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-rearvwmods-02jul14.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolo-w-trlr-15jul14-.jpg

    I'm not sure what the weight is on this thing now - but, obviously, I'm not too concerned w/weight!

    It's really comfortable going & I wish I had a few more gear-inches on my top-end at times... My seat is off of our Kent Tandem (my wife wanted a wider cushier seat!) & is really quite comfortable. Once you get this thing rolling I suspect the inertia from those big tires just keeps it going(?) so I'm not really that taxed in my riding. Climbs are a bit more difficult (obviously!) but nothing unmanageable w/the Megarange cluster on the rear. The day I rode into Stevi w/the trailer I averaged about 11.3 MPH (empty propane tank & gas can) into town & only about 10.4 MPH back (all loaded/full!) The raod through Lee Metcalf Wildlife refuge SUCKED as they'd just oiled the dirt/gravel portion & I had a major rainfall going through there (sticky muddy mess!) - I need a longer rear fender for sure!

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    I'm thinking of adding a laid back seat post to give a more crank forward ride.
    I haven't been able to find to find one with a 28.6 diameter. Has anyone done
    this to their Dolomite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _flatline_ View Post
    ...laid back seat post ...with a 28.6 diameter. ...
    Intend to. Haven't yet.
    There's always a shim so you can use 27.2 mm instead of 28.6 mm (1 1/8").
    Cane Creek Seatpost 28.6-31.6mm Shim - Performance Sales Exclusions

    Someone over at ratrod was making them custom too.
    Heavy duty layback seatposts | Rat Rod Bikes

    You might have better luck looking for layback or laidback.

    Although they turn up in the strangest places...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro...ml#post3219938

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    Thanks Canoe! Rat Rod Bikes is looking Good!
    slowriderz looks like "the man" for seatposts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Intend to. Haven't yet.
    There's always a shim so you can use 27.2 mm instead of 28.6 mm (1 1/8").
    Cane Creek Seatpost 28.6-31.6mm Shim - Performance Sales Exclusions

    Someone over at ratrod was making them custom too.
    Heavy duty layback seatposts | Rat Rod Bikes

    You might have better luck looking for layback or laidback.

    Although they turn up in the strangest places...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro...ml#post3219938
    What is the dolo seat post diameter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    What is the dolo seat post diameter?
    1 1/8" or 28.6mm

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    So my grandparents have two beach homes in oregon.

    This is great because I just so happen to be taking a 11 day vacation up there to visit! So Iíll be getting some good ride time in on the beach, as long as my knee is okay.

    Needless to say I hope Iím fine and dandy in the next two weeks.

    Just having a hard time figuring out what bike I want to take. I love the Beast just coasting around.

    But I ordered the mega range gears for the rear and a 3Ē rise handlebar to sit better on the Dolomite.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    You will really appreciate that megarange. And tires if you don't have them. Rd my Dolo with the new on ones today for the first time. Since i basicalyy was on a flat trail with some asphat , gravel, hardpack, and some sand, i tried 18 psi. Less rolling resistance. It was great. Starting to like the bike more withe changes. Prior to tires and new bars, I was thinking what have I done buying this pig?

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    I havenít upgraded the tires or tubes yet.

    Iím debating on what route I want to take.. I kinda want to take the white wheels off of the Beast and put them onto the Dolomite.

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    I'm looking at the Dolomite and "mite" buy one, but for 499 there's a pretty good fat bike on BikesDirect that has better components and an aluminum frame (and comes in sizes). So I might do that.

    Interestingly, The Beast seems to have several names and colors. Not only is it the Beast in red, green and blue, but it's also called the Mongoose Brutus at Academy Sports. It's black (perhaps dark green) with yellow rims...

    And it's called the Mongoose Dozer at Toys R Us, sporting an orange frame and blue rims (for all you Florida or Auburn fans, I suppose).


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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Looks like we may have an alternate soon, in a Sealed Cartridge Bearing at 100mm.
    VP Components VP-BC63
    Expected to be in the $20 range.
    VP Components ? 100mm Square Taper Bottom Bracket | FAT-BIKE.COM
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    UPDATE: from the distributor: J&B Importers stocks it which means most every bikeshop in America has access to special order one.
    Hi, I'm Mike... I'm building a custom Dolomite. I'm new here but this place is a wealth of knowledge so far. So, thanks for that.

    NOW, to the important part.

    Has anybody been able to successfully have a LBS order the above VP-BC63 bottom bracket? I've gone through about four local bike shops now that just scratch their heads and look confused despite me handing them a printout of the part and a link to it on VP's website. J&B Importers wants a dealer number, which of course I do not have.

    I need this bottom bracket, and I can't find a source for it... at all.

    Can anybody help a builder out?

    Thanks in advance.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    ...just scratch their heads and look confused despite me handing them a printout of the part and a link to it on VP's website. J&B Importers wants a dealer number, which of course I do not have...
    On J&B Importers' contact page, account number is not mandatory. Ask them for a dealer near you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    On J&B Importers' contact page, account number is not mandatory. Ask them for a dealer near you.
    Sent them e-mail, we'll see what happens. If anybody has an actual source, that'd be appreciated.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    So what exactly does that part do?? Or should I ask, why would I need it?

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    So what exactly does that part do?? Or should I ask, why would I need it?
    It replaces the stock bottom bracket with a sealed bearing cartridge unit. Nice smooth pedaling, no taking it apart on a regular basis to clean/adjust things.

    I disassembled my bottom bracket today to inspect/clean/lubricate the components. It's a hunk of crap. I had to chase the threads in the frame to clean the paint overspray out of them, and it was assembled at the factory dry, no anti-seize on the threads, so getting it apart without doing any damage was time consuming patience testing process.

    The crank spindle still had cast marks on the bearing race surfaces that I had to polish out. Once I had everything polished, cleaned, lubricated, and packed with bearing grease it was a fairly effortless reassembly.

    It will do till I can get the aforementioned replacement cartridge bottom bracket.

    I did tear down my wheels today to clean/inspect/lubricate everything. I was able to get that chicken fat they use as lubricant off of all the parts and loose bearings. I saw that they painted the bearing races in the hubs so I wire wheeled the races clean and polished them smooth. Once I got everything repacked with proper grease and dialed in the wheels have a nice smooth spin with no chunkyness or excessive side play.

    I removed and indexed my brake rotors, they were straight, so I guess I got lucky there.

    Replaced the seven gear stack with a nice Shimano unit the LBS cut me a deal on.

    Someone find me this bottom bracket already...
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    ..well now I just feel like ****.

    Guess Iíll get one now too haha

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    Mogoose Dolomite front sprocket change. How to do it?



    Hi All, I'm new to this forum. I have a couple quick questions. I want to change the front sprocket from the 38t to a 25t or 28t.
    Can you use a ten dollar ebay BMX sprocket?
    Do you need an adapter to make this work?
    I reliese the chain might have to have 4 or 5 links removed
    What type and size puller do I need to take the right side crank off?
    I have read a lot of the posts about this and some say to change the whole crank. I would just like to change the front sprocket.
    Does any one have pictures they could post of the right side crank removed? To see how the sprocket is held on.
    Thanks in advance for any help. Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockonx2 View Post
    ...I want to change the front sprocket from the 38t to a 25t or 28t... What type and size puller do I need to take the right side crank off?
    I have read a lot of the posts about this and some say to change the whole crank. I would just like to change the front sprocket.
    If you go back here http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11161518, at the top you can see how the stock gearing would change if you replaced the stock 36T front with a 34, 32, 30 or 28T.
    You can likely guess where it would place a lower front. Notice your gear choices are very compact if you do so. Which is why the megarange is popular, and if you want fancy do a custom stack of a megarange (all laid out back in those posts).

    The sprocket/ring is crimped to the drive-side arm, effectively making it a one-piece. Not meant to be changeable.

    I don't know the size of the puller. I just use one at the bike co-op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    So what exactly does that part do?? Or should I ask, why would I need it?
    Before that part was "available", this was the upgrade: http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11100414
    Surprisingly, it's lower friction than any cartridge I've ever pedaled, BUT - you have to use the right grease AND get the tension exactly right. The cartridge part is plug-and-play.

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    Thanks for the info about how the sprocket is held on. (not meant to be changeable)
    I have a metal fabricator friend and we will make it changeable if only once to go from the stock 38t to the 25t.
    so now the info I'm looking for is:
    Will the dolomite chain work with the front bmx sprocket pitch and width?
    Should I buy steel bmx sprocket because of width of teeth instead of aluminum
    so I will work with the stock chain?
    What tool do I need to remove the right side crank arm on the dolomite?
    What size is the middle hole on a 25t bmx sprocket?
    What size is the hole in the crimped on sprocket?
    Again as always thanks in advance for any help. Gary
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockonx2 View Post
    ... I have a metal fabricator friend and we will make it changeable if only once to go from the stock 38t to the 25t.
    so now the info I'm looking for is:...
    You're dreaming.
    Your fabricator friend will explain to you why you don't want to do that, once you get the bike and put the part in his hand.

    It's also way easier to get a crank with the teeth count you want, new or used, or with replaceable rings. You can also get the arm length you want too.

    Look at what others have done. Why they've done it and what they get in the end.

    p.s. the stock chainring is 36T
    To not waste time, money & effort, you're going to have to pay attention to details, and hope that others giving you information have also done so. Which is why you want to wait until you have the bike in hand before ordering anything that is not something you've done before or not something that has been documented (like you can see in the many pages of this thread). Doing something that is not documented, with the bike in hand you'll have the parts in hand and can reliably measure and get workable replacement components or parts.

    p.s.s.
    Park Tool Co. Ľ ParkTool Blog Ľ Crank Installation and Removal- Square Spindle Type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    Someone find me this bottom bracket already...
    To follow up, after a lot of phone calls, J&B Importers put me in touch with Bicycle Express in San Jose who was more than happy to order the BB from J&B for me. They were polite on the phone, more than helpful, and even expedited shipping. So I should be able to pick it up later in the week when the rest of my parts start showing up on my doorstep.

    Nice change of pace after dealing with a handful of LBS'es in my area who dripped with disdain at the idea of someone wanting to work on their own bike instead of booking an appointment with their service boutique.

    EDIT: Found it on amazon as well, takes some very specific search criteria: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00H3T4LB0
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Need some help please. I am looking to get a triple chain ring set up to use the inner two rings. Is the following all I need to know to get something that will work? Crank length. Square taper. Gear sizes. MTB. Don't want to order something I can't use. An inner 22T would be really nice to have. Thanks!

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    Hi, I still did not get any info about what tool is needed to remove the crank?
    I have had the bike for over two weeks now. I'm mid 50's and retired so I am not some kid with big dreams. Just looking for info. Also still looking for the sprocket hole size and width on a steel 25t bmx sprocket. Thanks to any one who has this info.
    p.s. 38t was a typo. one more try Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockonx2 View Post
    Hi, I still did not get any info about what tool is needed to remove the crank?
    I bought this (off Amazon) ~ Park Tool Co. Ľ CWP-7 : Universal Crank Puller for Square Taper and Splined Cranks : Crank Tools
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockonx2 View Post
    Hi, I still did not get any info about what tool is needed to remove the crank?
    I take it you missed the link to a page that lists the steps to the job, the tools you can use, has photos (including one puller tool) and (showing the other puller tool) a video on how to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    Need some help please. I am looking to get a triple chain ring set up to use the inner two rings...
    Look back in the thread to where this is discussed.

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    Nice you found an LBS that works for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    ...EDIT: Found it on amazon as well, takes some very specific search criteria: Amazon.com: Buying Choices: BB SET OR8 100x137.5 P/P XLT SQ STL-CUP ENG
    Interesting, but not the same brand. With the VP Components VP-BC63 we at least have a favourable review.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Look back in the thread to where this is discussed.
    Read everything in this this thread. Just asked for confirmation of what I think I got out of it. As I said a simple request. Still trying to learn. Not as easy for some of us.

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    Thanks Canoe. and yes I did miss that link. Gary

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    My local bike shop install new mega range, adjust gears and service hubs for about $25. To me that seems great and makes me more willing to have him do more service work for me in the future vs trying to do it myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Nice you found an LBS that works for you.

    Interesting, but not the same brand. With the VP Components VP-BC63 we at least have a favourable review.
    SO...

    My VP-BC63 bottom bracket showed up today. Along with my ISIS bottom bracket installation socket.

    The VP-BC63 bottom bracket does in fact fit nicely in the Mongoose bottom bracket tube, it even looks really nice installed. But THE VP-BC63 WILL NOT WORK ON THE MONGOOSE DOLOMITE or any Mongoose fat bike by the looks of it.

    The spindle is waaaaaay too ****ing short meaning that there is no way the stock crank arms will clear the chainstays. And any aftermarket crank arms would need a ridiculous S-Bend in them to clear.

    So... Let's take stock of the damage:


    • I'm out 40 bucks in useless parts and tools I won't get back
    • I wasted three hours of my day


    Protip: Don't take advice from anybody on this forum unless they have physically used the component in question. Otherwise you might just be lighting money on fire and wasting your time.

    So I'm stuck with the crap bottom bracket in the Dolomite, and at this point after a couple weeks of dicking with this epic pile of **** I'm pretty sure I'm just going to toss the whole thing in the trash and call it an expensive lesson.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Good point. I was almost lured in by the ultra cheap pricing but after looking at other options I realized its worth the wait for something better.

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    I get you're angry but why toss it? Depending on your use do you really need to get rid of it? At least sell it on Craigslist.

    I have no problems with mine. It's mostly to roam the neighborhood and ride down to the market to grab beer. Also to ride on the beach or take camping to roam around. I would not put any speed on it or jump the thing tho.

    But at least enjoy it for what it is. I'm super excited I got mine for $225 at Walmart 3 weeks ago. I think it's well worth the price point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    SO...

    My VP-BC63 bottom bracket showed up today. Along with my ISIS bottom bracket installation socket.

    The VP-BC63 bottom bracket does in fact fit nicely in the Mongoose bottom bracket tube, it even looks really nice installed. But THE VP-BC63 WILL NOT WORK ON THE MONGOOSE DOLOMITE or any Mongoose fat bike by the looks of it.

    The spindle is waaaaaay too ****ing short meaning that there is no way the stock crank arms will clear the chainstays. And any aftermarket crank arms would need a ridiculous S-Bend in them to clear.

    So... Let's take stock of the damage:


    • I'm out 40 bucks in useless parts and tools I won't get back
    • I wasted three hours of my day


    Protip: Don't take advice from anybody on this forum unless they have physically used the component in question. Otherwise you might just be lighting money on fire and wasting your time.

    So I'm stuck with the crap bottom bracket in the Dolomite, and at this point after a couple weeks of dicking with this epic pile of **** I'm pretty sure I'm just going to toss the whole thing in the trash and call it an expensive lesson.


    SO you may take this the wrong way but you did start with a $225 dollar bike...while I am quite happy with mine (while I have spent more money on mine, its a fun project and my family isnt starving) its still a $225 Walmart bike,...that you want to throw a ton of money into.....you talked about wanting a custom build but did you think you could do it on the cheap....reading your post #527 it seems like you know some things...did you measure the OEM spindle...its 189mm...but the BB you ordered is 137mm (I think)...yeah its not going to work. Did you read back into this thread at all....When Canoe originally posted about this sealed unit, I quoted it and specifically asked him about spindle lengths...he replied with a cut/past of the email he received from VP..didn't show anything long enough...Canoe also posted about the BSA BB cups w/ seals...I went that route with Phil Wood grease....Huge difference..night and day from the OEM BB for only $10 and common tools...


    mine gateway fatbike with upgrades for my "custom" build...

    Drilled the rims (time)
    Tires and 2.8 tubes ($), Truvativ crank (old/take off), XT thumbie shifter ($), PS adapter and direct mount FD ($), Shimano trigger shifter ($) BSA BB cups ($), Elixer 5 brakes (take offs)

    pics are posted someplace in this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    ... THE VP-BC63 WILL NOT WORK ON THE MONGOOSE DOLOMITE ... The spindle is waaaaaay too short...
    I take it you didn't specify a spindle length when you ordered?

    Have you contacted the LBS to ask if they can get the BC63 in a 189mm or 190mm spindle length?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    ... Protip: Don't take advice from anybody on this forum unless they have physically used the component in question. Otherwise you might just be lighting money on fire and wasting your time...
    Seems that we're constantly reminding people:
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    ...Look at what others have done. Why they've done it and what they get in the end.
    ...
    To not waste time, money & effort, you're going to have to pay attention to details, and hope that others giving you information have also done so. Which is why you want to wait until you have the bike in hand before ordering anything that is not something you've done before or not something that has been documented (like you can see in the many pages of this thread). Doing something that is not documented, with the bike in hand you'll have the parts in hand and can reliably measure and get workable replacement components or parts...
    I was impressed you were willing to invest in being the first to try it. Too bad you didn't specify the spindle length.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    ...So I'm stuck with the crap bottom bracket in the Dolomite, and at this point after a couple weeks of dicking with this epic pile of **** I'm pretty sure I'm just going to toss the whole thing in the trash and call it an expensive lesson.
    Or,
    1. take your advice, turned around a little, and do what others have done,
    2. (as already pointed out to you) like the new cups & bearings for the stock spindle,
    3. ebay the BC-63 to a bike that fits, (go read the review on the BC-63 and see what bike it fits?)
    4. or do craigslist it. I'm sure someone would be very happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oops View Post
    ... posted about the BSA BB cups w/ seals...I went that route with Phil Wood grease....Huge difference..night and day from the OEM BB for only $10 and common tools...
    The YST Sealed BSA Cupset with Bearings are amazing aren't they. I'm trying them with a synthetic grease on two bikes, but not enough time on them yet to recommend the grease. I find it turns easier than two models of external sealed bearings I had on another frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    I take it you didn't specify a spindle length when you ordered?

    Have you contacted the LBS to ask if they can get the BC63 in a 189mm or 190mm spindle length?
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    I was impressed you were willing to invest in being the first to try it. Too bad you didn't specify the spindle length.
    Show me on the VP website or the J&B Importers website where you can specify anything other than a 137.5mm spindle length for the VP-BC63.

    I'll wait...
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    Show me on the VP website or the J&B Importers website where you can specify anything other than a 137.5mm spindle length for the VP-BC63.

    I'll wait...
    There isn't. They aren't retail sites: they don't provide a comprehensive online listing to the public.
    vp-usa doesn't even list the BC-63 yet.
    I don't even find a listing that specifies 137.5mm.

    Look at the BC-73 - many more spindle widths than the token few they list.

    Any word yet from the LBS regarding available widths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    There isn't. They aren't retail sites: they don't provide a comprehensive online listing to the public.
    vp-usa doesn't even list the BC-63 yet.
    I don't even find a listing that specifies 137.5mm.

    Look at the BC-73 - many more spindle widths than the token few they list.

    Any word yet from the LBS regarding available widths?
    Given that the two burnouts in the LBS took ten minutes between them to figure out how to run a credit card on their cash register I won't be going back.

    The lady at the LBS who actually ordered the part for me was nowhere to be found. And I could tell based on my initial experience with getting her to order the part... if what I wanted was not a clickable box on the J&B Importers website or clearly listed on VP/Origin website, the part does not exist in her universe.

    I could waste my time trying to contact VP/Origin directly and seeing if I could get the 100mm shell with a custom spindle length. But honestly, it's a 250 dollar bike. A crap one at that. I'd rather toss the whole damn thing and start over with something that isn't a rolling heap out of the box.

    My first clue should have been on teardown when I saw the wheel hub bearing races were dry and covered in paint overspray.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    So I'm stuck with the crap bottom bracket in the Dolomite, and at this point after a couple weeks of dicking with this epic pile of **** I'm pretty sure I'm just going to toss the whole thing in the trash and call it an expensive lesson.
    ...or you could send it to me instead. i'll pay shipping
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    ...Any word yet from the LBS regarding available widths?
    Bad news from VP Components.

    As of 2014-08-15
    Quote Originally Posted by VP-USA
    Currently: The BC-63 is available in 11 sizes between 137.5mm and 164mm. They skip every 2-3mm just like 68/73mm shell but nothing even close to the 189mm you are looking for.
    So ebay your BC-63 and get the new cups.
    Or I'd imagine there's be a long list of people willing to take your project over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Or I'd imagine there's be a long list of people willing to take your project over.
    just sayin...
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    send it to me instead. i'll pay shipping
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    just sayin...
    Like I told the other guy who sent me a PM, if you hurry you might catch the recycling truck that picked up the cans this morning before what's left of the Dolomite ends up in the shredder.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    haha hey I tried!

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    Just cause the website doesn't state it doesn't mean they can with ease fab it up.

    Asking us far easier than just looking. It could be a simple place a part inside a part process at the factory yet the demand isn't there so it's not advertised publicly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    Like I told the other guy who sent me a PM, if you hurry you might catch the recycling truck that picked up the cans this morning before what's left of the Dolomite ends up in the shredder.
    This is so stupid lol you're like a child. Can't get what you want so you throw a hissy fit and trash something so no one can enjoy because you are incompetent to do so yourself.

    Why not donate the bike to someone who needs a bike. Or make some kids day and give him a cool bike. No need to be a prick about it because you can't get what you want.

    End of day of the thing rolls from point a to point b then just ride it. I see plenty of beat up shitty cars on the road and they seem to get the job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    This is so stupid lol you're like a child. Can't get what you want so you throw a hissy fit and trash something so no one can enjoy because you are incompetent to do so yourself.
    Well, I don't know about that. Down in the garage there's a race car, a couple ground-up custom built motorcycles, and a crapload of well used tools and fabrication equipment. Oh, and a shelf full of trophies that are a testament to the fact that I might be pretty damn handy with those tools.

    So... Sorry, no. Otherwise I wouldn't have just happen to have the correct tap to chase the crap threads in the laughably ovaled out bottom bracket tube with.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    Why not donate the bike to someone who needs a bike. Or make some kids day and give him a cool bike. No need to be a prick about it because you can't get what you want.
    Because I'm not a jerkwad. Which is exactly what you'd have to be to donate that heap of crap to someone who didn't have the means or the extensive toolset required to keep it in good enough shape to get you a mile down the road. "Here Kid, have a big pile of suck that's just going to fall apart on you. Have Fun!"

    I expected it to be cheap based on what I'd read before I ordered it. But what I pulled out of the box and started to work on was Harbor Freight levels of cheap crap. It even had the same rank smell.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    End of day of the thing rolls from point a to point b then just ride it. I see plenty of beat up shitty cars on the road and they seem to get the job done.
    Well, I ordered up a Surly I liked... So, problem solved on my end.

    You have a good one, now.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    oh you're one of those guys..

    You enjoy yourself now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moike View Post
    Well, I don't know about that. Down in the garage there's a race car[/URL], a couple ground-up custom built motorcycles, and a crapload of well used tools and fabrication equipment. Oh, and a shelf full of trophies that are a testament to the fact that I might be pretty damn handy with those tools.
    So... Sorry, no. Otherwise I wouldn't have just happen to have the correct tap to chase the crap threads in the laughably ovaled out bottom bracket tube with...
    wow
    All that experience and you forgot to measure what size part you needed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    wow
    All that experience and you forgot to measure what size part you needed...
    Well you have to remember, given the size of his ego, his measuring stick would be too short to measure the parts on his bike. So like all else, heís gotta flaunt his short comings at the expense of being a baller.




    ..moral of the story - donít buy something you canít handle.

    Funny part about this situation is that if it DID fit and worked..home boy here would toss that in his collection of material items with high praise and toss that out there in future reference to make himself seem much cooler than he really is.

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    I understand his frustration and I've thrown bikes away myself instead of fooling with it. I do regret it now that I have more bike building skills under my belt. Just pulling the parts would of come in handy today.

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    Anywho, in other news.. I got my bike back yesterday from the LBS.

    Had him install the new megarange & service the hubs. Needless to say, the new megarange seems ďharderĒ to pedal on the normal range. But the megarange feels great. And he did a good job adjusting the system as it switches gears without a hitch.

    The bike does roll better, too.

    But this is all non-comparative. I havnít had much ride time due to a knee injury but the service updates do seem positive.

    Edit: I installed the new 3Ē rise 30Ē wide handle bars before taking to the LBS on thursday. I hate leaning forward. Iím more the relaxed type

    Iím still up in the air as to what bike(s) Iíll be taking on the beach trip next week - oregon coast. Iíll be at one of the beach houses for about 8 days so and which house determines what bike I take. One homes area is more developed with dedicated paved/wood plank bike paths around the city along with the beach. That one Iíd take the Beast. The other home is in a gated community and just the beach off the back end of the home, which is more the Dolomite.


    Until then, bike porn.
    (Also looking at getting a gopro for the trip as well!! But my Note 3 might do well if I can find a good mount - if anyone has suggestions for using a phone/mount over a gopro)








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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    Anywho, in other news.. I got my bike back yesterday from the LBS.

    Had him install the new megarange & service the hubs. Needless to say, the new megarange seems ďharderĒ to pedal on the normal range. But the megarange feels great. And he did a good job adjusting the system as it switches gears without a hitch.

    The bike does roll better, too.

    But this is all non-comparative. I havnít had much ride time due to a knee injury but the service updates do seem positive.

    Edit: I installed the new 3Ē rise 30Ē wide handle bars before taking to the LBS on thursday. I hate leaning forward. Iím more the relaxed type

    Iím still up in the air as to what bike(s) Iíll be taking on the beach trip next week - oregon coast. Iíll be at one of the beach houses for about 8 days so and which house determines what bike I take. One homes area is more developed with dedicated paved/wood plank bike paths around the city along with the beach. That one Iíd take the Beast. The other home is in a gated community and just the beach off the back end of the home, which is more the Dolomite.


    Until then, bike porn.
    (Also looking at getting a gopro for the trip as well!! But my Note 3 might do well if I can find a good mount - if anyone has suggestions for using a phone/mount over a gopro)







    Take the one with brakes and gears. (Dolomite)
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    @ ImaBum , where are you going to be in Oregon? I've had my Dolomite out on the coast, wet and dry sand, in the surf, dropped the air pressure and put on miles...was a fantastic time..

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    Newport and Astoria. I'll also be spending a couple days in Seattle at Orca Island I think as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaBum View Post
    Newport and Astoria. I'll also be spending a couple days in Seattle at Orca Island I think as well
    IF you end up in Newport and want to ride some msg me..Im only an hour away and would try to head over put some miles in on the beach....

    Orca Island is nice, had a couple family vacations there...

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    Oh sweet! Yeah if I stay there I will message you. That could be fun. When we stayed at the cabin near reedsport my girl and I found miles upon miles of walking done with ease. I could only imagine how many miles one could travel on bike.

    Any advice for orca island? Should I take my car or park my car in the city and hitch the ferry with just the bike and do the island with the bike?

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    Canoe, I got the 25t on the Dolomite arm. Found a friend with an arm puller and chain breaker. Pressed the old gear off it's sweage fit. Bolted the new ebay ten dollar 25t steel bmx gear to stock 36t for pattern to file about 16 notches in center hole of bmx gear to match 36t gear. Pressed sweaged fit new gear on dolomite arm. milled two flat spots on back side of arm and gear and drilled and tapped two 3/32nd holes, half in the arm and half in the gear and installed two button head screws with Loctite. Took out 3 1/2 links of chain to keep derailer in same position in 1st and 7th before sprocket change and had to file the teeth on bmx gear thinner cause chain was sticking/hanging up on the sprocket. Total cost $10. and 2 hours of my time and use of friends shop. I have pictures but still have to find out how to post. Got about 30 miles so far on new sprocket. can use all 7 speeds now, 4th thru 7th road, 1st thru 3rd trails. Use the mongoose for what it is non competition fat bike! check out this clip about Mongoose bicycles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIj9HQzsKxs enjoy. Gary
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    Dolomitey

    Here's the pics.
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    Thanks for posting this rockonx2. I want to do this to my mite.

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    A 25T single front isn't a bad compromise, but you are limited at the top to matching the middle gear of a stock Dolo (~53 gear inches).

    Still think a 22-32T front is the most useful for the Dolo. Hills or sand on the 22T. Normal riding on the 32T. Can be had from a 22-32-42T triple front. As here http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dol...l#post11319377
    A 34T megarange freewheel gets you the 34T granny, but if you follow the above link, then to it's link, you can see what a custom stack freewheel does: takes you down to the granny range, but with better steps across the range instead of it being a granny.

    Below we show:
    • the stock Dolo
    • with a 25T front
    • with a triple front
    • with a triple front and a megarange freewheel with a 34T granny

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    edited: wrong label in the second example in the graph - should have been 25T
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    That's good advice Canoe.
    I'll have to see if I can get the Trip. from my Jamis cross country to work with my mite.
    It's a 22-32-42 bio pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _flatline_ View Post
    That's good advice Canoe.
    I'll have to see if I can get the Trip. from my Jamis cross country to work with my mite.
    It's a 22-32-42 bio pace.
    I found some Bio-pace cranks at Free Cycle Missoula but they all had the straighter crank arms and would hit the chainstays where they flare out to allow for that FAT tire... IF you can unbolt them from the spider arms and reattach to others - but I think those are different as well (I REALLY like Bio-pace cranks...)

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    OK, after I installed my Alivio from crank to make the Dolomite a 21-speed I find I'm using the following gear combinations the most: (24-34-42 3-ring crank w/13-15-17-19-21-24-34 Magarange Freewheel in back...) (this is from highest to lowest gear inches...) 42/13; 34/13 & 34/15; 24/13, 24/15, 24/17, 24/19, 24/21. (I seldom need to go down to the 24/24 & 24/34) With the way my chainline runs (way OUT from the tire) I'm "crosschaining" in anything lower than what I have listed above.
    BTW, saw this advertised in Ebay - the Kawasaki (Sumo) fat-tire bike. Comes as a 21-speed w/magarange freewheel, etc.

    http://www.amazon.com/Kawasaki-Sumo-...ag=azonrcom-20 ($264)

    and here...

    Kawasaki Sumo 4.0 Fat Tire Bicycle | Overstock™ Shopping - Great Deals on Kawasaki Bicycles ($530)

    For that kind of money I'd see a better buy in the BikesDirect offerings(?) (real aluminum frames (the Kawasaki looks suspiciously like the "aluminum" (NOT!) Dolomite per Walmart specs... actually steel)

    I did a total ride of 69 miles Monday to Hamilton & back (26 there, 17 in & around - popped out to Red Barn Bicycles (Custom Mountain Bikes, Road Bikes and Hand-made wheels | Red Barn Bicycles) to visit about the Bucksaw that I couldn't go see back in July... (these were the guys who let me try a Salsa Mukluk back in 2011 - got me hooked!). Had a HORRIBLE headwind the last 7 miles from Stevensville back to my house - only averaged 5.6 MPH! (I can see myself using a fatbike as my only bike!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    ...BTW, saw this advertised in Ebay - the Kawasaki (Sumo) fat-tire bike. Comes as a 21-speed w/magarange freewheel, etc...
    For that kind of money I'd see a better buy in the BikesDirect offerings(?) (real aluminum frames (the Kawasaki looks suspiciously like the "aluminum" (NOT!) Dolomite per Walmart specs... actually steel)...
    On one site, I saw it was claimed to be 47 lbs..
    and
    Sumo 4.0 Fat Tire Bicycle: Kids' Bikes & Riding Toys : Walmart.com

    new thread http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/kaw...l#post11401876

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    Canoe, Thanks for the inch gear chart. I see how my sprocket change moved my speed and pedal effort. Thanks Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockonx2 View Post
    Canoe, Thanks for the inch gear chart. I see how my sprocket change moved my speed and pedal effort. Thanks Gary
    You're welcome.
    Where's it's really useful, is in determining where to go if your changes don't meet all your needs.
    With a stock dolo in hand, you get to see where the stock ~38 to ~76 gear inches fit into the scheme of effort vs. motion, for whatever terrain you have handy. As they're geared in "cruiser" range, it can be hard to imagine what extra gears on the easy end would provide you with, be it for flat, hills, Clydesdales, sand or snow. Now, with your 25T front with the stock Dolo rear, you can have a much better idea what changes in gearing can give you.

    From the chart, you can see that your new gearing could be described as trading the three hardest gears of a stock Dolo for three easier gears. And a 22T front with the stock rear is roughly the same as that (bottom six with 25T are ~= to top six with 22T), only you trade the upper gear for one gear more on the easy end. And if the stock rear is changed for the 34T megarange, that one easier gear is now a big step to a granny gear, to bail you out (up?) on a hill, deeper snow, softer sand, etc..

    With the 22T and the 32T front, on the 32T and the stock rear you get roughly 1 gear easier than stock while losing the hardest stock Dolo gear. Same for the megarange rear, except that easier gear is now a granny with no material difference to the easiest you have with your 25T front. (for some, a 32T front with the 34T megarange for a granny will cover exactly what they need for their terrain, style, etc.)

    Compared to stock, your 25T front gains three easier while losing the three hardest.

    Between the 22T & 32T, compared to stock, we get four easier gears and lose only the hardest gear. This is why I think the 22T-32T is an excellent mod to a Dolo.

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolo-stock-bmx-triple-mega-marked.jpg

    If you got that 22T & 32T from a mtn triple (22-32-44T), and you've got legs and lungs that are a lot better than mine, then you can throw it on the 42T and go to town with ~77 and ~88 gear inches. Good luck if you're still using the stock tires & tubes...

    Or grind the teeth off of the 42T so it doesn't catch if you bash it into something hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    You're welcome.
    Where's it's really useful, is in determining where to go if your changes don't meet all your needs.
    With a stock dolo in hand, you get to see where the stock ~38 to ~76 gear inches fit into the scheme of effort vs. motion, for whatever terrain you have handy. As they're geared in "cruiser" range, it can be hard to imagine what extra gears on the easy end would provide you with, be it for flat, hills, Clydesdales, sand or snow. Now, with your 25T front with the stock Dolo rear, you can have a much better idea what changes in gearing can give you.

    From the chart, you can see that your new gearing could be described as trading the three hardest gears of a stock Dolo for three easier gears. And a 22T front with the stock rear is roughly the same as that (bottom six with 25T are ~= to top six with 22T), only you trade the upper gear for one gear more on the easy end. And if the stock rear is changed for the 34T megarange, that one easier gear is now a big step to a granny gear, to bail you out (up?) on a hill, deeper snow, softer sand, etc..

    With the 22T and the 32T front, on the 32T and the stock rear you get roughly 1 gear easier than stock while losing the hardest stock Dolo gear. Same for the megarange rear, except that easier gear is now a granny with no material difference to the easiest you have with your 25T front. (for some, a 32T front with the 34T megarange for a granny will cover exactly what they need for their terrain, style, etc.)

    Compared to stock, your 25T front gains three easier while losing the three hardest.

    Between the 22T & 32T, compared to stock, we get four easier gears and lose only the hardest gear. This is why I think the 22T-32T is an excellent mod to a Dolo.

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    If you got that 22T & 32T from a mtn triple (22-32-44T), and you've got legs and lungs that are a lot better than mine, then you can throw it on the 42T and go to town with ~77 and ~88 gear inches. Good luck if you're still using the stock tires & tubes...

    Or grind the teeth off of the 42T so it doesn't catch if you bash it into something hard.
    Great info and it sounds like 22T & 32T with 44T ground down teeth bash guard would work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatBikeNoob View Post
    Great info and it sounds like 22T & 32T with 44T ground down teeth bash guard would work well.
    yup
    A 22-32-42T triple is a good choice, for the reasons shown.
    Watch out for grinding the teeth off of the 42T large ring. If you get better tires, as in 120 tpi tires that roll much easier, then you may suddenly have use of those 42T teeth for the addition gearing at ~77 and ~88 gear inches.

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    Here is a pic of my dolo in the wild...Alaska that is, 10 miles down a trail. Definitely liked the megarange but still need to do some gearing changes on the front.

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    Well, I pulled the trigger and ordered a Dolo from Wallyworld. I paid the extra $4.97 to have it by this Friday. just got the FedEx tracking info and they said by Thursday, tomorrow. I don't know, all the way from Bethlehem, PA to Dayton, OH. we'll see. I also noticed that FedEx says 105 pounds, are they kidding, is the Dolo really that heavy. Anyways, I was at Wallyworld last night looking for some red pedals, all they had were the white ones that change colors, I just might try my SPD's instead. I just hope I like this new fat bike, I did ride a Surly Pugs about a month ago, but don't want to lay down almost 2K for one of those yet. Stay tuned for pics and maybe video too. Oh by the way. Wallyworld did say I had 30 days to bring it back to the store if I didn't like it. We'll see!
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    Can someone tell me what balls to order for the rear wheel bearings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    Can someone tell me what balls to order for the rear wheel bearings?
    Guff, The rear wheel doesn't have bearings. The rear wheel on theses have freewheel spockets, the freewheel spins, not the wheel. This video will show how to remove the freewheel and clean and re-lube it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDdSpIPt5qk
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB29erCurt View Post
    Guff, The rear wheel doesn't have bearings. The rear wheel on theses have freewheel spockets, the freewheel spins, not the wheel. This video will show how to remove the freewheel and clean and re-lube it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDdSpIPt5qk
    The rear hub in the wheel has bearings

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorguy View Post
    The rear hub in the wheel has bearings
    Isn't the bearings in the freewheel. Doesn't the rear wheel have a fixed shaft that the freewheel spins onto and tightens.
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    The freewheel threads onto the hub, the hub has bearings

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorguy View Post
    The freewheel threads onto the hub, the hub has bearings
    OK, I see. I was wrong, just watched this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axwV6sfaAs
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB29erCurt View Post
    Well, I pulled the trigger and ordered a Dolo from Wallyworld. I paid the extra $4.97 to have it by this Friday. just got the FedEx tracking info and they said by Thursday, tomorrow. I don't know, all the way from Bethlehem, PA to Dayton, OH. we'll see. I also noticed that FedEx says 105 pounds, are they kidding, is the Dolo really that heavy. Anyways, I was at Wallyworld last night looking for some red pedals, all they had were the white ones that change colors, I just might try my SPD's instead. I just hope I like this new fat bike, I did ride a Surly Pugs about a month ago, but don't want to lay down almost 2K for one of those yet. Stay tuned for pics and maybe video too. Oh by the way. Wallyworld did say I had 30 days to bring it back to the store if I didn't like it. We'll see!
    You have 30 days to return and 60 days to return the item once you notify them. May be different on your side of the country but I did an exchange with my first beast and it was a big headache. I actually need to call up my credit card company and have my bank remove the charge. Walmart charged me for the non returned bike yet admitted they did receive it. And they want you to use the Web to process your return. Then call them to reschedule a ups return pickup that you never even set up at the time you for your return. So you need to call them. Only they don't provide a phone number. So you must email them, wait two days then hourly they give you a phone number.

    Long story short. Don't return or exchange.

    FYI I'm a 28 yr old guy who is computer savvy and sharp. So it's not like I don't know how to use the Internet or phone to return a product

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB29erCurt View Post
    Guff, The rear wheel doesn't have bearings. The rear wheel on theses have freewheel spockets, the freewheel spins, not the wheel. This video will show how to remove the freewheel and clean and re-lube it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDdSpIPt5qk
    That's a reasonable video on servicing the freewheel. Only I would recommend you use a degreasing fluid, not WD40. WD40 can gum things up.

    Now, there are ball bearings inside the freewheel. But with most usage, you shouldn't need to open the freewheel up to service them: 'cause the freewheel is under load when it is being driven by the chain, with the freewheel locked and it is not spinning on its bearings.
    When the freewheel spins, it is not under load. Before you need to service the freewheel's ball bearings, you'd need to do a whole lot of freewheeling with a lot of dirt inside.
    The cleaning procedure in the video should be sufficient, well beyond the life of the bike.

    If you're needing to replace the ball bearings in the hub, you should be checking to see if you've trashed: the cones on the axle, or the cups/seats in the hub.

    Do take a look at Park Tool Co. Ľ ParkTool Blog Ľ Hub Overhaul and Adjustment

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorguy View Post
    The freewheel threads onto the hub, the hub has bearings

    Thanks. Can someone tell me what size balls to order for the hub?

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    I think the balls are 1/4" and 9 per side.
    Someone correct me if I'm incorrect.
    When I changed my freewheel to the megarange, I checked mine and added grease.
    But, I did not put a caliper on the balls. I believe that 1/4" is std.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guff View Post
    Can someone tell me what size balls to order for the hub?
    Why? What's up?

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    Road my dolomite on the beach. Kept it in the mega range the whole time. It was fun and quite nice. I learned that is not about going fast. You'll wear yourself out. Just go along at a slow pace and enjoy the water.





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    Some of you might like this:

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-tenis-ball-kickstand.jpg

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    Got my Dolo today, man what a big ass disappointment, The derailleur hanger and derailleur bent inward like somebody stood on the box. And the right crank scratched too. Man I am so pissed right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB29erCurt View Post
    Got my Dolo today, man what a big ass disappointment, The derailleur hanger and derailleur bent inward like somebody stood on the box. And the right crank scratched too. Man I am so pissed right now.
    Did you take photos of the box before you opened it?
    That may help in getting a new bike or replacement parts.

    Also, as the box got hit that hard, was the spacer between the ends of the fork still in place?
    If not, check to see that the front fork isn't bent too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB29erCurt View Post
    Got my Dolo today, man what a big ass disappointment, The derailleur hanger and derailleur bent inward like somebody stood on the box. And the right crank scratched too. Man I am so pissed right now.
    I see you're having full service mail-order-Dolomite experience.

    Well, at least you have 30 days to send it back. Hopefully they cover shipping.
    I've felt better, but it cost more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Did you take photos of the box before you opened it?
    That may help in getting a new bike or replacement parts.

    Also, as the box got hit that hard, was the spacer between the ends of the fork still in place?
    If not, check to see that the front fork isn't bent too.
    I just took a pic of the top of the box with the lids opened. The side of the box didn't look damaged at all, just one small hole. It did look much worse than that, but the derailleur just has to much damage to it. I called my local walmart store and they said just bring it back for a full refund. I really wanted this bike too. I'm not taking another chance on another one. I'm just going to save up and get a pugs at my local LBS.
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