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    CarbonSpeed CS-18 Chinese Carbon Fat Bike Build With Bluto

    Now completed please scroll down to see pictures!

    Hey all,

    So first of all i'd like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum and led me to be able to research and build this bike. I'm from the UK so Fat bikes are still relatively new to the market here and parts etc are hard to source! Being able to research online and get everyones opinions was of great use to me!

    So here's a build thread from me to you guys, I hope i can help anyone interested in a Carbon fat bike or people after information on parts i used and sourced!

    I will update this as i build it up, currently i'm waiting on a few final parts.

    So like others I settled on a carbon fat bike frame from China, this ones from Peter and his new business Xiamen Carbon Speed Sport Goods Co.,Ltd
    He was very helpful throughout the transaction and everything arrived within a week of shipping! The wheels were sent on Monday and arrived on Friday the same week!!

    I had a few demands to be met when it came to a frame and thatís what led me to the CS-018 or SN01 and other names.
    I wanted Bluto compatibility first and foremost and i'd read the CS-018 in 16inch and above takes one although Iím 5í11 so I settled on an 18inch frame. Below 18inch you need a +3mm crown race from Surly/canecreek it's $20 anyway as they are impossible to get in the UK other than at Charlie The Bikemonger link below.

    Secondly big tyres obviously, but as I donít ride in snow and sand I wasnít after the biggest so i'm not too fussed i can't fit a Lou in the back. After speaking to the awesome guys at Charlie the Bikemonger link as follows. Damned fine bike shop for single speed, fat bikes, bikepacking and more
    I decided to get 3.8 Knard front and rear, i don't live near the beach and it doesn't snow really so from their opinion a great summer tyre! Perfect!

    And finally sub 450mm chain stays, this thing is a trail bike so any longer and itíll be like turning a barge!

    So below is the specification list.
    Frame: CS-018 18inch
    Seat Clamp: CarbonSpeed
    Headset: Lifeline Carbon tapered headset
    Forks: Rockshox Bluto 120mm
    Wheels: Carbon 80mm rims on Novatec hubs
    Brakes: Shimano XT
    Handlebar: Raceface Next 35
    Stem: Raceface Atlas 35 50mm
    Seat post: Rockshox Reverb
    Seat:
    Cranks: RF Turbine 175mm length/ 190mm width, RF BB 100mm & Narrowwide Chain ring 34tooth
    Pedals: HT AE03
    Shifter: Shimano Zee 10 speed
    Cassette: Shimano SLX 10 speed
    Rear Mech: Shimano XT Shadow Plus 10 speed
    Chain: KMC 10 speed
    Tyres: Surly Knards 3.8


    Time frames
    Ordered Frame/Wheels 29th April
    3-day public holiday in China
    4th May Ė received Tracking numbers
    8th May - wheels arrived
    11th May Frame and parts arrived

    So here's some pictures of the parts so far, please request weights or any information like measurements while the bikes not built.
    I'll be updating this as i build up the bike over the next couple of days ready for the weekend!!

    Any questions please ask!!
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    I look forward to seeing this bike come alive. Good Luck with the build.
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    Bed Build Plus Bluto Clearance pictures.

    A quick mock up to check the clearance on the Bluto and make sure the wheels, axles fit etc.

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    Cant wait to see this build. I don't mean to be rude but do you mind posting what the frame and wheels cost you? i am interested in this option but i have not been able to get pricing. thank you in advance. Happy Building

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    415 USD for the frame and 645 USD for the wheels, axles are 15USD each.

    Plus 4% Paypal Plus Shipping then potentially import tax.

    This is from Peter at CarbonSpeed who i would really recommend and it seems he's had a lot of happy customers on here!

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    Thank you very much, Are you in the US? Did you have any import fees?

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    I'm in the UK import tax is 4.7% of the total amount. Not sure about the USA though..

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    Did Peter declare lower value when he shipped your goods ?

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    Devans, did it get picked up for tax and if so how did it arrive (EMS/UPS etc?)

    Assume import is 4.7% plus the VAT?

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    Shiny pats are here!

    I managed to miss the big parcels with my Cranks, BB, Chain ring, cassette etc, have to go grab it in the morning.

    Literally waiting on my new Carbon RF bar on Monday and that's everything here!!

    Will build more this weekend ready.

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    Devans - Do you happen to have the contact info for Peter? no mater where i click i can not get an email address or anything for him.

    thanks

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    Devans, post a link for the website, please...

    Looking the part on the build! Keep us posted...
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    i actually found it. Cleverly hiding right on the main page.

    link below
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    Go figure! Thanks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jefflinde View Post
    i actually found it. Cleverly hiding right on the main page.

    link below
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    Sorry guys i had a big night last night and i've been sat trying to build my bike all day haha. The best way to contact Peter is Skype he's very good at replying.

    Every part is now here accept the Handlebar, although this isn't an issue as i've ran into a couple of problems.

    Firstly the RaceFace Turbine cranks don't come with the correct spacers if your frame has a 120mm BB shell and 190mm rear spacing. I have 5mm on the crank spindle that is extra even with 7.5mm of spacers behind the BB shell to sort the chainline. Hopefully RF get this sorted for me. I have read that i could cure this by running one 2.5 spacer on the NDS and a 7.5mm spacer on the DS but it's a bodge and i'd rather do it properly.

    The old Gorilla tape tubeless has worked on one wheel but not the other but i think it's due to a slightly looser tyre, i'll go over the rim with electrical tape or something.

    Aside from that i'm really happy with everything, it's quite an expensive build but it'll be quite rare especially in the UK, i doubt i'll see many at the places i ride!

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    Sourced some 2.5mm spacers, thanks SRAM!!

    So called one of my local bike shops "NorthWestMountainbikes" it's the place Steve Peat used to be sponsored back in the Orange days!

    Anyway sorted me out with some SRAM spacers that'll do perfect!!

    So cranks on tonight, just waiting on the handlebar tomorrow to fit brakes and set gears up etc!

    Biggest job now is filling the tyres with Joes Tubeless and hoping they stay up

    Here's some pictures of my Cranks and the all important RF spanner to fit the BB.

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    Looking good...

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    Shakedown went well, i think the rear wheel has finally sealed!

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    Lookin good !
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    What size bluto did you put on the bike?

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    Congrats on a fine build, hope you enjoy the results! Would be interested in the weight if you get a chance.
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    Weight is around 30 pounds but that's a rough guess, i'll get it on some scales ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devans View Post
    So below is the specification list.
    Frame: CS-018 18inch
    Seat Clamp: CarbonSpeed
    Headset: Lifeline Carbon tapered headset
    Forks: Rockshox Bluto 120mm
    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    What size bluto did you put on the bike?
    In the first post dude
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    Took this thing out today to some local downhill trails, man it is awesome, once i got the tyres down to a nice pressure for off-road it grips like hell!!

    People are going to be thinking a motocross bike has been coming down the hills haha.
    Real fat tyre tread marks!!

    Easily more fun and confidence inspiring than the 2015 Specialized Enduro i had for a weekend,

    Super, super happy!!

    And my god every guy and his dog is looking an asking about it haha
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    Devans, your bike is lookin' good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by devans View Post
    Super, super happy!!

    And my god every guy and his dog is looking an asking about it haha
    looking good mate, get used to the stares and questions, you learn not to stop too long anywhere so folks dont have time to get hold of you with the same questions again and again
    I havent ridden my fully since I got my Fatty 3 months ago (SN01), it is so much fun


    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    In the first post dude
    come on, do you really expect people to actually read a post/thread and not just look at pictures?
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    Thanks man, it's great to hear people like it!

    A lot of time and effort went into this build, i'm just so glad it works out nice!
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    Devan,

    Sorry forgot to ask in my last post.
    The frame looks the same as the SN01, does it have a drain hole under the BB? my SN01 doesnt and I often ride in wet (Switzerland) and I have drained the frame twice. I imagine in the UK you will also ride wet quite often, so keep an eye on it.

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    A dropper post will be on it in the next week or so, can't really see what else there is to upgrade on it now, so i'm pretty happy

    Maybe some Nextie rims with their stealth black graphics but that's a long time off now!!
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    When you get a chance would you be able to put a tape measure to the chain stays to show tire clearance? no rush and thank you for all the pics and info you have posted already. i love the set up you have.

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    With 3.8inch knards there must be an inch clearance, 4.8inch Knards will fit in this frame if needed!

    Not that i'll bother at this point, maybe in the front someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    In the first post dude
    Funny. Using the tapatalk Android app, the complete post is not shown. Only about half of it appears. See attached image:



    I was able to see the whole post by going to a web view of the thread.

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    I'm able to review this build now after some decent riding and downhill runs.

    First things first, it's unreal i'm way more confident on this than i have been on a bike before, even a 2015 Spec Enduro.

    These tyres grip hard!!

    Only downside is the cranks love to hit the deck when climbing, i've hit them hard today!

    All in all, super fun bike when on dirt, grip all day. Loved it!

    Anyone thinking of taking a leap should go for it, worth every penny. I was riding so hard with my riding buddies today, i went over my handlebars down one section haha, no harm done though
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    Great to hear devans. That exactly how I feel about my fatty. Even though it's not carbon, still puts a shit eating grin on my face.

    It's been great reading your experience regarding this. It's only reinforced the want I have to build up a fatty from the frame at some point in the not to far off future.

    Stay behind those handlebars buddy!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by devans View Post
    Now completed please scroll down to see pictures!


    So like others I settled on a carbon fat bike frame from China, this ones from Peter and his new business Xiamen Carbon Speed Sport Goods Co.,Ltd
    He was very helpful throughout the transaction and everything arrived within a week of shipping! The wheels were sent on Monday and arrived on Friday the same week!!


    So below is the specification list.
    Frame: CS-018 18inch
    Seat Clamp: CarbonSpeed
    Headset: Lifeline Carbon tapered headset
    Forks: Rockshox Bluto 120mm
    Wheels: Carbon 80mm rims on Novatec hubs
    Brakes: Shimano XT
    Handlebar: Raceface Next 35
    Stem: Raceface Atlas 35 50mm
    Seat post: Rockshox Reverb
    Seat:
    Cranks: RF Turbine 175mm length/ 190mm width, RF BB 100mm & Narrowwide Chain ring 34tooth
    Pedals: HT AE03
    Shifter: Shimano Zee 10 speed
    Cassette: Shimano SLX 10 speed
    Rear Mech: Shimano XT Shadow Plus 10 speed
    Chain: KMC 10 speed
    Tyres: Surly Knards 3.8

    Any questions please ask!!
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    Isn't this frame with 120mm BB ? You said 100mm RF BB ?

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    Yup the BB is 120mm on this frame.

    120mm BB are not available yet so you have to use a 100mm BB and not use the plastic tube that covers the spindle. As it's 20mm too short.

    The spindle length is what's important and that is dictated by what rear axle width you have.

    Technically you could fit a 68mm BB on this frame but finding a crankset that fits with an axle for the 190mm rear end would be impossible.

    Complicated i know, and i'm not really sure i've cleared it up haha.

    But yeah your right in a way it's a bodge but it's not an issue at all!
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    Devans, you bike looks great.

    Quick question, how is the clearance between the crank arms and the seat stays? I've seen a few other pictures where guys have had to use BB spacers to clear the SS's and even with this they are much too close for my liking.

    Thanks!

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