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    Boris report....

    Got the Boris X9 in this morning. Box was intact and all parts accounted for. Assembled the bike with a couple issues. The front derailleur cable was routed on the left side of the steer tube, should have been on the right. Not a big deal, I'll re-route it went the weather sucks and I can't ride. It appears the front rotor is slightly warped. I'll email BD regarding the rotor. Pictures to follow, I got to get it on the trail first!! Overall, very pleased with the purchase.

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    I took it on the trail and talk about a different feeling. Tires were inflated to approx 18#. Now I see why they call it squishy and they float. I'm not too sure I like it on the dry trails. It didn't seem as responsive as my Camber 29er. Climbs ok on the loose stuff, but I do miss my suspension on the flats and going down hill. Now the snow will be a different story. That's why I bought the fatty in the first place.

    The second picture shows the front derailleur cable routed on the left side of the steer tube. Does Yakima sell a longer bolt for their fork mounted roof bike carriers?

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    Got my Boris today and had the same cable routing issue and warped front rotor. Minor issues in my mind. Went for an 18 mile ride the bike feels good. This is my first fat bike and the steering feels very foreign but I'm slowly getting used to it. The paint on the bike looks much better than I thought it would. I'm 6ft tall with a 33inch inseam and the large fits me like a glove. Overall very happy with the bike so far!

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    i am going to hav eto get one of those tailgate pads!

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    I recognize the area. I'm in GF too. Let me know if you want too go riding sometime. I ride on lunch break and on Saturdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I recognize the area. I'm in GF too. Let me know if you want too go riding sometime. I ride on lunch break and on Saturdays.
    Sounds good! I'm not the fastest in the crowd, probably more like the turtle. I bike for health, not for speed PM me your contact info..

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    I took it on the trail and talk about a different feeling. Tires were inflated to approx 18#. I'm not too sure I like it on the dry trails. It didn't seem as responsive as my Camber 29er. Climbs ok on the loose stuff, but I do miss my suspension on the flats and going down hill.
    18# is road pressure for big Clydes. Drop 8-10# and give it a go again.
    It was never going to be nimble like your Camber.
    Fat tires are not a substitution for actual tuned suspension. Lowering your tire pressure will help and there are a few fork options out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    I took it on the trail and talk about a different feeling. Tires were inflated to approx 18#. Now I see why they call it squishy and they float. I'm not too sure I like it on the dry trails. It didn't seem as responsive as my Camber 29er. Climbs ok on the loose stuff, but I do miss my suspension on the flats and going down hill. Now the snow will be a different story. That's why I bought the fatty in the first place.

    The second picture shows the front derailleur cable routed on the left side of the steer tube. Does Yakima sell a longer bolt for their fork mounted roof bike carriers?
    your pressure is a bit high; at 18#, I wouldn't describe it as squish and your traction is likely to be quite compromised. i'd recommend dropping it to 12#- it will be a much different bike. A lot of guys go even lower than that, 8-9 psi for hardpack and as low as 4-5 in the snow. Next time you go out, bring a floor pump & a low pressure gauge and play around with pressures.

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    Hey Guys and Girls, this is my first post so I hope it goes well. I received my Boris X9 yesterday and put it together. I'm wondering if anyone else has a problem with the front forks being bent? I had to pull the forks apart to get the front wheel in, and it wasn't easy. Now the front wheel is off set to one side. I also had the same issue with the cables but I'm wondring if that is how they wanted it? Love the bike and hope I can get BD to figure out the fork problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amazn1 View Post
    Hey Guys and Girls, this is my first post so I hope it goes well. I received my Boris X9 yesterday and put it together. I'm wondering if anyone else has a problem with the front forks being bent? I had to pull the forks apart to get the front wheel in, and it wasn't easy. Now the front wheel is off set to one side. I also had the same issue with the cables but I'm wondring if that is how they wanted it? Love the bike and hope I can get BD to figure out the fork problem.
    I haven't received my bike yet, but looking at the bikes direct website it is possible the forks are tapered based on this image of theirs:

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    However, I would think it would have an even taper and not look bent to one side or the other. Some pics would help (plus, we want to see all the new bikes around!).

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    Can you tell me more about that tailgate pad?
    That looks amazing!

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    It is definitely not even on both sides. I will take some pics and attach them later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Can you tell me more about that tailgate pad?
    That looks amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Can you tell me more about that tailgate pad?
    That looks amazing!
    Assuming you're talking about hanging the bike over the back...and not being sarcastic about the blanket, hahaha....

    Thule, Yakima and several other companies all make tailgate pads, you can find them on amazon (...but not warehouse deals since I just bought the yakima there!). The prices have come down since I looked last (they were all over $100 a few months ago), maybe an end of season thing.

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    Fork Issue

    AS you can see there is about 1in of clearance on one side and only 1/4in o the other. You can also see the wheel is not centered.
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    Since this is a Boris thread, I thought I'd offer my comments.

    I have the first generation Boris X9 (with the sliding dropouts). I've been riding singletrack with it this summer. The trails are typically hard-packed dirt or sandy gravel, with an assortment of roots, rocks, stumps and jumps to keep things interesting. I've had pretty good luck with the Mission tires in these conditions. I run 10.5 lbs in the back and 8.5 lbs up front, and I weigh about 185 lbs. I reversed the tread direction up front, which seems to improve cornering (although this could be purely placebo on my part).

    The bike is as nimble as my old 26" single-speed hardtail with an 80mm travel fork. On the fat bike, I can clean rock gardens that have stymied me with the 26er, and I haven't noticed any extra effort on the climbs, which tend to be short but brutally steep.

    My bike weighed in at just under 36 lbs with platform pedals. I recently eliminated the front derailleur, shifter, and double chainrings in favor of a 32t RaceFace N/W chainring, so I imagine it weighs a bit less now.

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    Amazin1, pull your front wheel off and check the dropouts on the inside where the axle ends rest. Make sure you don't have a glop of dried paint up in there, as that could easily cause your problem. I'd clean out the drops with a very fine file or some sandpaper. If they are clean you could definitely have a bad fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    Assuming you're talking about hanging the bike over the back...and not being sarcastic about the blanket, hahaha....
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    No...I want the details on the one you are using.
    Do you have a link to where I can buy one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    No...I want the details on the one you are using.
    Do you have a link to where I can buy one?
    I got the Yakima one, here is the link.

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    I found this tailgate pad....but I think it's a 29er specific pad.
    I wonder if I could still use it with some modifications?

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    Wrong - that's a 29+ summer only pad. The winter pad is puke green.

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    Well if this is the official Boris thread I hope the delete the other one I started, anyway I got my bike yesterday put it all together and that went flawlessly. Went on a tiny ride but nothing to bad. Today I did a real ride, 8 miles and can say WOW this thing can climb, right now I have 15psi in the front and rear tire and the paths were pretty dry except for some mud puddles that I normally avoid but felt inclined to drive right through the middle of them on this bike...lol

    It takes some used to going from a full suspension bike to a full on rigid bike, my arms are still vibrating. I put new bars,grips and a fender which I found at REI for 15 bucks. Here is a picture after todays ride
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    Ummmm there is also a Bikes Direct thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Ummmm there is also a Bikes Direct thread.
    So we cant have more than one thread for each fat bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    So we cant have more than one thread for each fat bike?
    Yup my internet my rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    your pressure is a bit high; at 18#, I wouldn't describe it as squish and your traction is likely to be quite compromised. i'd recommend dropping it to 12#- it will be a much different bike. A lot of guys go even lower than that, 8-9 psi for hardpack and as low as 4-5 in the snow. Next time you go out, bring a floor pump & a low pressure gauge and play around with pressures.
    18# was a guesstimate. Since I don't have a presta gauge, I used the setting on my air compressor with the cheap shrader adaptors. I ordered a Topeak D2 pressure gauge so I will know exactly my pressure. I'll take it out this weekend and experiment with accurate/lower pressures.

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    That was a old polar jacket I found in the garage, in a pinch it worked LOL. I have a Yakima roof rack on one car and a Saris rack for the other. I searched all over town for a bolt that was 2" longer to use on my rack, but no one had a bolt, metric or SAE with the thread pitch that would work. The bolt/thread pitch is the same for my Saris and Yakima. Anyone know what size bolt it is?

    As far a the warped rotor, BD shipped a new on out today. Kudos for great customer service.

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    Boris report....

    I have the first batch of Boris that came out. Had some rotor issues and had to use a spacer to stop the rubbing. I think the front fork in the Picts are not correct. I never expect perfection but damn that's a ways off!
    I seem to be going to opposite direction of the rest of y'all! I keep adding weight to mine but figure it will remain the same throughout the year. I've added a frame bag, seat bag, tank bag, anything cages with OR insulated bags and have taken to bringing extra water on the forks to compensate for the smaller hydration bladder in the frame bag and it allows me to offer water to any pups I see along the trail. Amazing how many people (primarily hikers/runners) who don't bring water for their pups.
    I've been able to get rid of the backpack which is awesome but am scared to weigh the bike as it sits.
    Still have a stupid grin on my face everytime I ride it and haven't had any desire to jump back on the full squish.

    Here's how it sits now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    I have the first batch of Boris that came out. Had some rotor issues and had to use a spacer to stop the rubbing. I think the front fork in the Picts are not correct. I never expect perfection but damn that's a ways off!
    I seem to be going to opposite direction of the rest of y'all! I keep adding weight to mine but figure it will remain the same throughout the year. I've added a frame bag, seat bag, tank bag, anything cages with OR insulated bags and have taken to bringing extra water on the forks to compensate for the smaller hydration bladder in the frame bag and it allows me to offer water to any pups I see along the trail. Amazing how many people (primarily hikers/runners) who don't bring water for their pups.
    I've been able to get rid of the backpack which is awesome but am scared to weigh the bike as it sits.
    Still have a stupid grin on my face everytime I ride it and haven't had any desire to jump back on the full squish.

    Here's how it sits now.

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    uh yeah, that looks AWESOME! where do you get those holders (are the insulated containers separate?) on the front forks? also, what size frame and what frame bag are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Ummmm there is also a Bikes Direct thread.
    there are so many people receiving bikes soon from bikes direct it makes sense to have separate threads at least for the model lines. sml had created a boris thread already (which was probably better titled!) but it seems this is the thread that is sticking for the boris!

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    Boris report....

    Holders are the salsa anything cages, insulated carriers are from off road research. (Come in 3 sizes, mine will each hold a 40oz sigg bottle)
    Size is a medium and all packs are from jpaks in Colorado. Totally cool guy to work with! Custom frame pack, just sent a template and what accents I wanted to haul the water bladder in the frame pack and had to downsize from a 3L to a 2L bladder. (I'm a furry guy who sweats a lot so needs his H2O)
    Seat pak is as compressed as it gets and gets huge!!
    http://www.jpaks.com

    I'm running 10'ish in the rear and 8'ish in the front all summer and for me a hefty 215# it works great.

    Frame pak holds the water bladder, multitool, light and battery for helmet, pump, tire levers, gloves, tape..... May be some other stuff as well. I put the spare tube in the seat pak to make a little room. Snak pak has all my snacks, wallet, iphone & keys. Yes I haul a lot of crap because well, can't depend on others to have what I need if I break down!

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    Pardon me for missing a post but did you modify the handlebars and stem? The 100mm default stem they ship seems too long for my 5'9 height. Also were the brakes and gears pretty dialed in out of the box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by homeslice View Post
    Pardon me for missing a post but did you modify the handlebars and stem? The 100mm default stem they ship seems too long for my 5'9 height. Also were the brakes and gears pretty dialed in out of the box?
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    Boris report....

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    Doesn't look offset


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalamath View Post
    Amazin1, pull your front wheel off and check the dropouts on the inside where the axle ends rest. Make sure you don't have a glop of dried paint up in there, as that could easily cause your problem. I'd clean out the drops with a very fine file or some sandpaper. If they are clean you could definitely have a bad fork.
    Good news and bad news...Good news is BD is sending me a new fork, bad news is I have to figure out how to replace the bad one. Oh well, I'm sure I can figure it out. Thanks BD for responding quickly to my email and making good on a bad fork.

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    Hello,
    Here are some pics of the 21 Boris x7. Nice fork. Only one tiny scratch where the rear quick release was locked and was hitting the frame.
    On the x7 rear derailleur the cable lock screw was almost stripped. Will contact service about that.
    Otherwise, very happy and love the color,
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    Boris report....-20140828_221134.jpg

    mine arrived today! unfortunately my workstand did not, thx amazon prime for letting me down the one time i really needed it!

    brassos, nice changes to the bike, almost the exact changes i want to make really soon. i like the raceface bashguard in particular. what is involved with installing it and which specific size do you recommend? thanks!

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    The race face was a 32t 104 bcd. Pain in the neck actually. The Flat areas on the crank arms are cast not machined. So it doesn't ley the bash guard ride square to the gear. They are tight however, so i think safe. And by not square i mean less than 1/16 off on one arm.
    I think i can carefully use a dremel tool or small hand file and fix the rise on the arm.
    Clark's orange cables will just replace to ones already installed with nothing to spare in length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brassos View Post
    The race face was a 32t 104 bcd. Pain in the neck actually. The Flat areas on the crank arms are cast not machined. So it doesn't ley the bash guard ride square to the gear. They are tight however, so i think safe. And by not square i mean less than 1/16 off on one arm.
    I think i can carefully use a dremel tool or small hand file and fix the rise on the arm.
    Clark's orange cables will just replace to ones already installed with nothing to spare in length.
    thanks for the info, maybe something i'd better have a shop install if i end up wanting one. is that the husselfelt 40mm? i was looking at that too, will wait for a ride to decide whether i want to swap the bar out too. i'm fine with the black cables myself, probably going to add a frame bag that will mostly hide them anyway.

    truthfully, i originally ordered black, then emailed bd to ask for orange if they ended up with extra 17 inch stock. the day before they came in i asked to keep my original order and they emailed that would be fine....guess the last memo didnt make it to the warehouse in time! the only reason i wanted black was to add green floaters come winter time, i will just have to stick with black tires i guess...well, maybe not, we shall see haha. have to say though i am not at all disappointed in the orange, it is very deep shade with a nice fleck finish, pretty sharp looking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHR View Post
    I reversed the tread direction up front, which seems to improve cornering (although this could be purely placebo on my part).
    And snow traction. I thought maybe placebo, but my LBS wouldn't have reversed the treads on their rental Kona Wo fleet on just my say-so.
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    60mm on stem. 700 mm 40 rise truvativ bars.

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    Are these rims considered single or double walled?
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    Boris report....

    Mine appear to be single wall


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    Quote Originally Posted by brassos View Post
    Hello,
    Here are some pics of the 21 Boris x7. Nice fork. Only one tiny scratch where the rear quick release was locked and was hitting the frame.
    On the x7 rear derailleur the cable lock screw was almost stripped. Will contact service about that.
    Otherwise, very happy and love the color,
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    What color is that? Is it the Burnt Orange?
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    I just ordered a Boris X7 myself. Do they have presta or schraeder values

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    Quote Originally Posted by novak172 View Post
    I just ordered a Boris X7 myself. Do they have presta or schraeder values
    presta, glad my floor pump could do either!

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    The more I look at it the more I like the Boris frame...

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    burnt orange indeed...high gloss.
    BTW as a heads up to anyone doubting the commitment of BD to customer service, I just got an email about my stripped x7 rear derailleur . They are sending out an upgrade model free of charge, already got the tracking number. Upgraded to compensate for the little scratch in the photo...damn!
    These guys are awesome, great value, nice components at each price point, and the fast service i wanted.
    Customer for life.
    Also got my black Motobecane jersey today! 2 day shipping..lol

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    Has anyone been able to weigh there bike yet? I know on the box it says 30 lb but if feels heavier than that, My Camber has a claimed 30lb weight and it feels like a feather compared to the Boris. But I do have carbon bars,seatpost and im running 1x10 on the Camber and its tubeless.
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    Boris report....

    30# Hahahahahahaha! I know someone weighed the bike as shipped and thought it was 35-36# without pedals. It's buried in the bikes direct thread


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    The only problem I keep having is having to tighten the head tube after every ride.
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    Re: Boris report....

    Got mine today and threw it together in such a rush lol.. Went for a ride. It's pretty awesome. Pearl white looks amazing in the sun. It's got some metallic flake in it, it really glistens.




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    Boris report....

    My large weighs 36lbs. Here is a quick shot from the trail today.

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    I got my new front rotor today! Great customer service!

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    Got the Boris X9 in this morning. Box was intact and all parts accounted for. Assembled the bike with a couple issues. The front derailleur cable was routed on the left side of the steer tube, should have been on the right. Not a big deal, I'll re-route it went the weather sucks and I can't ride. It appears the front rotor is slightly warped. I'll email BD regarding the rotor. Pictures to follow, I got to get it on the trail first!! Overall, very pleased with the purchase.
    Just curious, why would you need to wait until you can't ride to do the re-route? Looks like a simple task that would take a few minutes to do: remove grip, unbolt derailleur from handlebar and route cable to the correct side, re-bolt derailleur, reinstall grip.

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    I'm not too happy with the cable routing on this frame.. It could be more neat and thought out

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    Boris report....

    With the x7 shifter the clamp and shifter are separate. To re route simply remove the shifter from the clamp re-route them re-attach no need to remove the derailleur. Should take less than 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowBound View Post
    Just curious, why would you need to wait until you can't ride to do the re-route? Looks like a simple task that would take a few minutes to do: remove grip, unbolt derailleur from handlebar and route cable to the correct side, re-bolt derailleur, reinstall grip.
    It's all about time.

    Quote Originally Posted by fastpunk View Post
    With the x7 shifter the clamp and shifter are separate. To re route simply remove the shifter from the clamp re-route them re-attach no need to remove the derailleur. Should take less than 5 minutes.
    fastpunk, thanks for the info! I am still going to wait until next weekend to re-route the shifter and change the rotor. I am on-call for work and can't ride due to response times.

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    For those concerned with sizing: I am 5' 8", with an inseam of 31". I vacillated between the 15M and the 17M, initially ordering a 15M, then changed to a 17M, then had second thoughts on the 17M. The 17M fits me great. It provides a more upright riding position, which I prefer and stand-over is perfect, just like my medium Specialized Camber 29er.

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    Boris report....

    For front derailleur issues you need to check that it didn't get sent mounted a little cockeyed. My daughters X-7 was not lined up perfectly and was sitting too low (in relation to large ring). H & L stops were also incorrectly adjusted. After making these corrections, the bike shifts great with adequate clearance between cage and chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpunk View Post
    With the x7 shifter the clamp and shifter are separate. To re route simply remove the shifter from the clamp re-route them re-attach no need to remove the derailleur. Should take less than 5 minutes.
    You're absolutely right. I meant the derailleur shifter and not the derailleur. I'm sure we all know a derailleur has no use if it is mounted on the handlebar. 😄

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    Re: Boris report....

    40mm stem.. Going for a ride on a trail that leads to a private beach so I can try out the beach riding in an hour or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    40mm stem.. Going for a ride on a trail that leads to a private beach so I can try out the beach riding in an hour or so.

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    Nice! Ordered the same one, coming today or Monday,make sure to provide us with a ride update!

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    I found a problem,which is chasing me also in the motorcycles world(i got '78 Kawa KZ650 SR,kinda classic style).My hands are getting numb,when i ride Boris X9.My other bike is a beach ctuiser Moon dog Kulana.And my hands feelin' great on it.So,the question is:How can i make a bars higher?I don't wanna change the stock handlebar,cause it accents the brutality of the Boris I've geard about a steam risers.I was trying to find one,but i don't know the size.

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    It's a 1 1/8" fork and a 31.8mm bars. They have riser headsets and Amazon.com : Ritchey Adjustable Mtn stem, (25.4) 80mm : Bike Stems And Parts : Sports & Outdoors

    http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Heads-Ext...fork+extension

    There are other options but that goes to handlebars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheburussian View Post
    I found a problem,which is chasing me also in the motorcycles world(i got '78 Kawa KZ650 SR,kinda classic style).My hands are getting numb,when i ride Boris X9.My other bike is a beach ctuiser Moon dog Kulana.And my hands feelin' great on it.So,the question is:How can i make a bars higher?I don't wanna change the stock handlebar,cause it accents the brutality of the Boris I've geard about a steam risers.I was trying to find one,but i don't know the size.

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    Thanks,Bumpyride.Will check that.

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    Re: Boris report....

    Took her to the beach.. She likes the beach lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    Took her to the beach.. She likes the beach lol


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    Anyone make a frame pump that actually works decently fast with fat bikes? I'd like to be able to air down and back up without the 500 or so pumps it takes to get to 20psi for the concrete

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    I have an aluminum one, Lezyne I think. $50 is lots of money for a trail only tool in my opinion. Its 100 pumps to rideable on my fatbike. I use the same pump for my dirt bike.

    A friend gave me a cheapo plastic pump as part of a trail tire kit. He bought it at a major chain store. It actually pumps more volume than the $50 one. The only downside to that one is that the head connects directly to the valve, so it is harder to keep in position without snapping off your presta valve. Pick your poison, the cheap one saves $35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    Anyone make a frame pump that actually works decently fast with fat bikes? I'd like to be able to air down and back up without the 500 or so pumps it takes to get to 20psi for the concrete

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    What are your favorite Boris upgrades?
    I ordered an X5 this morning and I'm starting to doodle a list of upgrades to do right out of the box ...
    Top of my list is Diety pedals, seat clamp and maybe handlebar ... I LOVE my Dieties! Have them on my Juli and Fuji ... Wouldn't ride dirt without them (First blood anyone :-)

    Any other suggestions to ponder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    Anyone make a frame pump that actually works decently fast with fat bikes? I'd like to be able to air down and back up without the 500 or so pumps it takes to get to 20psi for the concrete

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    This one.

    Amazon.com : Lezyne Micro Floor Drive High Volume Pump : Sports & Outdoors

    Make sure you get the high volume, not the high pressure. Easy to use, and pumps fast. Don't have to putz with your tire having to be stationary or in a weird position. Fits easily in a frame bag also. Comfortable with no pinch spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpyride View Post
    This one.

    Amazon.com : Lezyne Micro Floor Drive High Volume Pump : Sports & Outdoors

    Make sure you get the high volume, not the high pressure. Easy to use, and pumps fast. Don't have to putz with your tire having to be stationary or in a weird position. Fits easily in a frame bag also. Comfortable with no pinch spots.
    I second that. With the Boris you can mount it to the fork or by the BB.

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    Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaRedlocks View Post
    What are your favorite Boris upgrades?
    I ordered an X5 this morning and I'm starting to doodle a list of upgrades to do right out of the box ...
    Top of my list is Diety pedals, seat clamp and maybe handlebar ... I LOVE my Dieties! Have them on my Juli and Fuji ... Wouldn't ride dirt without them (First blood anyone :-)

    Any other suggestions to ponder?

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    I ended up getting some cheap schwinn thing at Walmart.. I love my bell pump and it was only ten bucks. I'm going to be swapping tires I'll count how many pumps it takes.

    As for upgrade, I've done the stem. Pedals I'm leaving til I decide on what I want. Tires I'm gonna wait til winter to decide who knows what will be out by then. Handlebars are coming along with locking grips. I'll be putting on bb7s and some other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    The only problem I keep having is having to tighten the head tube after every ride.
    What do you mean by this? What are you having to tighten? Is the stem clamp at the steerer tube coming loose? Pic maybe?

    By the way, the head tube is part of the frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    What do you mean by this? What are you having to tighten? Is the stem clamp at the steerer tube coming loose? Pic maybe?

    By the way, the head tube is part of the frame
    Yeah it as the stem clamp. Seems to be OK now I must of not tightened it enough before my first time out
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    take two

    After cobbling together a fork mount for my X9, I'm ready to try my Camber 29er and X9 on the same trail today. It will be a short downhill then back uphill to the car so I can really compare bikes. My air gauge came in from Amazon.com, so there will be no guessing on the PSI, it will be at 9. Also, I'll have no need for that nice tailgate blanket Anyone in need of one

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Yeah it as the stem clamp. Seems to be OK now I must of not tightened it enough before my first time out
    Good to hear you got it sorted out.

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    My friend has a bikes direct bike with the stock stem and bars and no matter how tight I make it, it comes slightly loose every month or two. The bars too. Maybe cheap stems are made of softer metal that expands? I have a raceface that came loose that I know I torqued right and I bruised some ribs and broke my new fork on my fs.. And I know my torque wrench is right because I even tested it on a torque wrench calibrator.

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    Re: Boris report....

    Added some riser bars and grips.. I think I'm done for now. I also used zip ties and some rubber to attach a pump pump to the seat tube. I wish there were cage mounts there. Oh well not a big deal.







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    Heads up on rear wheel removal. The frame rapidly slims down back there, and removing the wheel causes the brake disc to hit or at least come very close to the inner left stay. I have scratched mine twice already.
    I applied a clear protector to the inner stay after a quick paint touch up. Really have to hold it just right as it comes out. Going to place a rag there in the future if i remove the wheel.

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    Great pump deal! I got one of these today:
    Spin Doctor Rescue HV Mini Pump - Inflation on Sale Save Up to $30 Off
    $16.99 after extra 20% off lowest price..
    Should be available tomorrow as well.

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    How easy/difficult would it be to convert the Boris to SS?

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    I had same problem with stem thought I tightened it enough to ride when I put it together. But the first hill I came to on trail handle bars went one way and front tire went other way. had to give stem bolts another turn (on trail with park tool)to tighten scary felt like they were about to strip. Did not use torque wrench so I don.t know what the lbs value the stem bolt are at this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Yeah it as the stem clamp. Seems to be OK now I must of not tightened it enough before my first time out

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    Anyone have a link to the geometry chart of the Boris line? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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    On the BD Boris page under sizing they give effective TT and standover for the sizes... For the rest of the geometry I compared to the geometry of the KHS and 9zero7, which many on these forums have said are the same frame, sourced from the Ideal Corp. that's how I compared it to my existing Juliana and Tahoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Anyone have a link to the geometry chart of the Boris line? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
    Found it if anyone is looking for the geometry:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaRedlocks View Post
    On the BD Boris page under sizing they give effective TT and standover for the sizes... For the rest of the geometry I compared to the geometry of the KHS and 9zero7, which many on these forums have said are the same frame, sourced from the Ideal Corp. that's how I compared it to my existing Juliana and Tahoe.
    The KHS and Motobecane frames are the same, but the 907 frame has been changed for 2015 and will now be known as the "whiteout aluminum" it has different tubing than previous models, with a tapered head tube, clearance for bluto and new rear dropout.

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    I'm glad I held off on getting a fat bike. Sounds like a Bluto Boris will be here really quick for under $1,000.

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I'm glad I held off on getting a fat bike. Sounds like a Bluto Boris will be here really quick for under $1,000.
    Wondered about that myself as I don't think Bluto will fit in current Boris X lineup.

    Saw on a Facebook post of Bikedirect a listing for Boris the Brut with a 190mm rear and bluto front. This would be the bike I want right now. Anyone know anything about this proposed upcoming model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O11 View Post
    How easy/difficult would it be to convert the Boris to SS?
    Since you have vertical drop-outs you will need a chain tensioner. Using a kit like this one, it is relatively simple assuming you can do some simple work like shorten the chain and disassemble the cassette.

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    Thanks rex615, I'm pretty sure I can handle that install....appreciate the info.

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    So, I don't mind being the guinea pig for a new larger tire, but I'm having trouble deciding between the Vee Bulldozer and Snowshoe XLs - Bulldozer is about $15 cheaper on aebikes, looks like they will be just about the same size-wise. Primarily getting the tire for up front traction in the winter, should I lean to the Snowshoe for that reason? Will the rubber be better suited to the cold/snow?

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    Boris report....

    Pxpaulx- pick your poison and looking forward to the results! I THINK they will just squeeze on the rear.


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    Hey all,Got the upgrade x9 rear derailleur for my X7. Unfortunately it was an X9 9 speed.
    Mine had arrived with a stripped cable clamp screw, sram's design makes re-threading rough.
    Emailed right away and now waiting to see if they have any 10 speed X9 rears available/
    I still think service was fast, just a simple mistake.
    Bike still rides like a dream. Picked up a large size triangle frame bag from Amazon: I have the 21 frame and this should look good:http://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle-...ngle+frame+bag

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    for a frame pack I'm thinking about picking up one of these, kinda like the tube vs full frame bag (although their frame pack is well priced too).

    Porta-Pack: Sport Rack Pack, Bike Storage Pack. Providing storage traditional packs do not, water resistant and made from heavy duty Cordura. Made in the USA.

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    Yeah, i like the frame pack as well. I carry a battery for my light system. plus a couple tools, maybe phone, etc.
    I figured cheap to try one out..lol
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    I'm new here. My x9 showed up last week. It was waiting for me at UPS will call while I was away at the beach.

    I'm really happy with this bike. It was hard buying it without riding it first but it fits very well. The medium fits my 6' frame perfectly. I was on the edge of sizes but went with the smaller size because I prefer being able to toss it around more. You can't take the BMX out of me.

    The mission tires work awesome for riding in the NJ Pine Barrens. I did notice the self steer issue on pavement during the ride to the forest with less than 10 psi in the front tire. Once you hit the sandy trails, that turns into gobs of traction. At higher pressure (14-15) on the street it is non existant and I didn't loose much traction off road. It rolled a bit easier and felt nicely neutral also. Rode it 50 miles yesterday, half on road half off. I can't remember the last time I rode 5 hours.

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    congrats! Nice bike and quitting smoking will keep you around a long time. My wife quit 2 years ago.

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    Boris report....

    Congrats. On the bike and stopping smoking!


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    Great job on quitting smoking! The bike is a great reward, plus you can ride longer now!

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    Anyone know if the freehub is upgradable on the Boris?

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    I just got back from a 8 mile ride in the muck, I put 10 psi in the tires and it's a different beast, it is much harder to steer, on the big hills I was not getting super traction but that's more on the tires than anything else, those will be my first big upgrade. Should I go bud/Lou ? Or are there cheaper and better alternatives, this will also serve as my snow bike.
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    Boris report....

    What psi were you running before? I run a bit lower in the dry climate... 8 front and 10 rear with my floaters. I have all the traction I could hope for.. Then again I'm a large (girth) person....
    Can't compare them to the missions as I pulled them off first thing to replace due to the poor reviews.
    On-one floaters are cheaper 75 each for black and ya have the option for some colors as well if you prefer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    What psi were you running before? I run a bit lower in the dry climate... 8 front and 10 rear with my floaters. I have all the traction I could hope for.. Then again I'm a large (girth) person....
    Can't compare them to the missions as I pulled them off first thing to replace due to the poor reviews.
    On-one floaters are cheaper 75 each for black and ya have the option for some colors as well if you prefer.



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    The ride before it was much dryer out so I was running close to 20 psi but found that to feel way to bumpy going over roots and rocks.

    Where did you get the On-one floaters at?
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    Boris report....

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    Psi I'm running at works fine but if I go any lower it gets squirrelly on the corners...... Sure it has extra rolling resistance but if I were worried about that I'd be a roadie. My tires and bike make me smile, sweat but rarely curse! (That comes naturally)


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    This might of been said already but what is the biggest size tire that will fit on a boris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    This might of been said already but what is the biggest size tire that will fit on a boris?
    motobecane web site says 4.5" maybe larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    motobecane web site says 4.5" maybe larger.
    Ok thanks, then a Bud/Lou may not fit then. There 4.8
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    more of the "orange Crush" 21"

    Boris report....-20140904_135646.jpgBoris report....-20140904_135729.jpgBoris report....-20140904_135701.jpgmore pics..new large frame bag, this is on a 21 frame. Bag is:
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    Pics of new wellgo replaceable pin pedals in blue. $16.99 ebay

    pic of headset bottlecap holder from niner. Have to get a bottle cap from my favorite root beer tonight.

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    I like your cable color choice! That looks pretty sweet. My friend is on the taller side, just curious what your height is and what size frame and what you think of it.

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    6' 3" 34" inseam. I think i could have used a 19" as well but i like the look of the taller frame. No issues on top tube clearance, and the reach with the 60mm stem is fine.
    I bet that bag would look even cooler on a 19". But is looks like it was made for mine, with the orange accents.
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    By the way, it looks like i'm always posting stuff to buy..lol.
    It's just that it has been really fun to have this bike and deck it out.
    I feel like it's my first bike all over again...

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    I love accessorizing a new bike.. Whether I'm building one or buying one. I'm still deciding on little stuff like if I need a bash guard. I threw a 32t chainring I had laying around on mine to see if I will have to shift the front derailleur less for climbs and sand. So far so good. I don't mind having it there in case I need it but I don't really plan on going too fast on the road so the 36 was a little tall. Gonna build another bd bike for my friend tomorrow and then hit the trails.

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    How come when you bring up you own a motobecane- and how you like it, they roll there eyes? Does one need to drop 2 grand on a bike for it to be considered good? I say this because someone did this to me in a different Fatboy thread
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    How come when you bring up you own a motobecane- and how you like it, they roll there eyes? Does one need to drop 2 grand on a bike for it to be considered good? I say this because someone did this to me in a different Fatboy thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    How come when you bring up you own a motobecane- and how you like it, they roll there eyes? Does one need to drop 2 grand on a bike for it to be considered good? I say this because someone did this to me in a different Fatboy thread
    Good for them - who gives a crap! We're the ones that could buy a 2nd bike and still be ahead of them at the bank!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    We're the ones that could buy a 2nd bike and still be ahead of them at the bank!
    2nd ... 3rd ... or 5th bike and have plenty left over to customize to our delight!
    (Bu hubby said I need to sell one of my bikes to buy my Boris ... So my ole purple beach cruiser went on CL as soon as I hit the purchase button on BD).

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    Hmm.. a Boris, a Lurch and a Bluto ..all for about the price of one of theirs.
    It's apples and oranges, my Boris is great and I am really enjoying it. My local bike guy just bought a KHS 4 season. He saw mine and wonders how they can sell it so low. He didn't belittle me at all. As a KHS retailer he got a good deal and it promotes what he sells.
    I Own a Honda Valkyrie and if i meet some Harley owners, well you know the drill.
    A cult of personality is just that, a group of people loyal to the extreme.
    Enjoy your bike and with the numbers of these "Bd's" being sold, I'm sure you will not be in the minority for long.

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    Boris report....

    Saw another Boris on the trail Wednesday, initial ride for new owner. X7, love the flat paint they used! Prefer it over the shiny black on the x9. V8 tires looked ok for most trails but sure looked like they rolled smooth! I love the fact that they have made it affordable to own a fat bike! I was skeptical but went out and ordered once initial reviews of the fb4 came through and am loving life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    How come when you bring up you own a motobecane- and how you like it, they roll there eyes? Does one need to drop 2 grand on a bike for it to be considered good? I say this because someone did this to me in a different Fatboy thread
    Well... On these forums, for everyone that makes fun of Bikes Direct/Motobecane there is usually someone else making fun of Specialized (Special-Ed...) or Trek, etc.

    Buy the bike you like and what works for your budget. That's your business - not anyone else's.

    FWIW - I took a long and hard look @ the Motobecane Fat Bikes. I decided to go another route for a multitude of reasons but have been enjoying the pics from peeps brand new Boris and Lurch bikes. Enjoy your rides!
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    I've never seen any of this on the trails, just on the forums and in the lbs. And that's fine, thats where elitism works. At the lbs, they're trying to shame me into buying at retail prices so they make money. Makes sense. That's why I don't go to the lbs. On the forum it's just somebody trying to justify the price they were suckered into paying at the elitist lbs. And that's cool too, whatever let's you sleep at night. Everyone is going to have an opinion, but sometimes they probably shouldn't express it cause it makes them look like an *******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    How come when you bring up you own a motobecane- and how you like it, they roll there eyes? Does one need to drop 2 grand on a bike for it to be considered good? I say this because someone did this to me in a different Fatboy thread
    Just for the record It had nothing to do with a BD bike it had to do with your reverse bike snob comment. You get defensive when you think someone is talking down your bike but it's OK to talk down ours?

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    Usually the issues start when the comparisons start. For instance/ this bike is half the price , why would you spend double. A lot of peeps won't let that slide and wouldn't ride a BD if you gave it to them. They are generally not well accepted on MTBR. The key is just enjoy your bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    Usually the issues start when the comparisons start. For instance/ this bike is half the price , why would you spend double. A lot of peeps won't let that slide and wouldn't ride a BD if you gave it to them. They are generally not well accepted on MTBR. The key is just enjoy your bike
    Well said!!

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    Back on track....after reading the threads on the Bluto, I may have to save my dollars and upgrade my Boris X9 with a Bluto. Sucks that I am on call this weekend, no riding for me. Anyway, I'll re-route my shifter cable, change out my front rotor, dream about a Bluto and maybe convert to tubeless via split tube.

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    A quick note - ordered mine last Friday, received today - one week later. Got the silver X9 in a 19 inch. Very nice out of the box, but the front derailleur cable was mis-routed ( easy fix), the forks were bent. I noticed the remnants of the plastic shipping fork thingy was in the bottom of the box all broken, so the bike shifted during shipping and one side of the fork appeared to take the brunt of it. Emailed BD, we will see .
    Shifting, brakes, frame are excellent. Stem , seatpost, bars Ok. Seat comfy but a bit on the heavy side. Pedals OK for now if you ride flats - but not the smoothest bearings.
    Completely Stock bike weighed 36.4 lbs (lg) with pedals. Still rideable with tweaked forks, but hopefully BD will send some new forks as in a previous case.
    The Front and rear derailleur needed some tweaking but they were not far off. Test ride on street was good- rolls like a semi! On the trails soon when I get a straight fork and some sealant in the tubes.

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    My stock X9 came in today at 36.4 - that is with pedals assembled, no sealant in the stock tubes.

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    Re: Boris report....

    I re-rerouted my rear derailleur cable off the cable holder on the right side to get rid of the hard bend and zip tied it to the brake cable holder, and now it's not bent and should be fine like that long term. I wish they put one on that side because having the cable going down the same side it starts is annoyingly ugly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    My stock X9 came in today at 36.4 - that is with pedals assembled, no sealant in the stock tubes.
    Can you weigh the bike with out the wheels on?
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    Re: Boris report....

    Boris X7 with a few upgrades, after my second ride.



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    Boris report....

    As it should look!


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    What tires are those?
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    Boris report....

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    What tires are those?
    Vee rubber Vee8


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    I just put on some origin 8 Devist8ers that my lbs hooked me up with.. Gonna ride them tomorrow. They are the folding bead version and aren't too heavy. You awkward a size to weigh on my scale though



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    Re: Boris report....

    Oh and another pic just cause I love white



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    tubeless

    No riding except on my 3.4 acres due to call Anyway, went to change the warped front rotor but they sent me a Tektro 160mm when my X9 takes an Avid 180mm. So no luck there. However, I went tubeless with my home brew. Quite the leak, but it sealed. It was right at the seam of the rim. The other side wasn't as bad.

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    Looks like your reflector is trying to bail out

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    Looks like your reflector is trying to bail out

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    Yea, it was making a vibrating noise so that was my field expedient repair.

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    so today i installed a new handlebar and grips, and re routed the cables so they are on the proper sides. got it all back together, and now i have some bad creaking coming from the front tire. it definitely sound like the spokes, as it is almost like a raking sound, as if something was sticking in them (like a kid with a baseball card). also, it is only happening when the wheel/bike is turned to the right. any thoughts on what it might be? mayb e i should grease the skewer a little bit? it is not the brake, there is no noise when i am not on it. also, it isnt in the pedals as the noise occurs whether pedaling or not.

    thanks in advance!

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    Boris report....

    Noise is the brake rotor rubbing.

    At least mine was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Noise is the brake rotor rubbing.

    At least mine was!

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    not in my case, like i said it only happens when turning right, no noise when tye wheel is spun when i am off the bike...i will double check in the morning though!

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    Boris report....

    Mine only rubbed when turned right as well. Worse with weight on bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Mine only rubbed when turned right as well. Worse with weight on bike.


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    will definitely give that a closer look then, maybe need to readjust the brake with all the work i did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    not in my case, like i said it only happens when turning right, no noise when tye wheel is spun when i am off the bike...i will double check in the morning though!
    Try my field expedient repair

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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    so today i installed a new handlebar and grips, and re routed the cables so they are on the proper sides. got it all back together, and now i have some bad creaking coming from the front tire. it definitely sound like the spokes, as it is almost like a raking sound, as if something was sticking in them (like a kid with a baseball card). also, it is only happening when the wheel/bike is turned to the right. any thoughts on what it might be? mayb e i should grease the skewer a little bit? it is not the brake, there is no noise when i am not on it. also, it isnt in the pedals as the noise occurs whether pedaling or not.

    thanks in advance!

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    closeout at nashbar, they are 710mm witha 1 inch rise. surprised at just how much of a difference such small dimensions make! coupled with the 40mm hussefelt stem it all makes a much nicer just slightly more upright riding position.

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    The fork is steel and bends.. Maybe it bends enough for the pads to rub?

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    Boris x7

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    somehow my Boris large is lighter than the others reported? it came in at a little over 33 lbs . this is one of the first ones they sent and it did not come with pedals so the weight does not include pedals, bottle cages etc but does include everything else. I have 6 other bikes and the park tool scale is accurate on everything....weird.

    I bought it primarily for trips to the beach...hated it at 5-6lbs (way too spongy), feels great at 12ish on packed sand. I love this bike! I have put on a specialized avatar saddle, ergon cork grips and everything else is stock. I will convert to 1 x10 in the future.....I am sure the sand will wear everything out fast. the removable chain is great


    anyone know what bottom bracket this takes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Noise is the brake rotor rubbing.

    At least mine was!

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    I reset the brake pad and it was a no fix, but....it was the brake rotor! I didn't have the wheel on draught in the dropouts apparently. I noticed the rotor was rubbing on one of the bolts that held the brake housing to the fork. Reseated the housing and problem fixed!

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    I reset the brake pad and it was a no fix, but....it was the brake rotor! I didn't have the wheel on draught in the dropouts apparently. I noticed the rotor was rubbing on one of the bolts that held the brake housing to the fork. Reseated the housing and problem fixed!
    The bolts for my front brake bracket were to long. I noticed before installing the wheel and ended up installing a couple of thicker washers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    The bolts for my front brake bracket were to long. I noticed before installing the wheel and ended up installing a couple of thicker washers.
    That is exactly what it was - they both stick out about a millimeter, maybe 1.5 - I'll have to stick a couple washers on as well, that'll make a better permanent solution.

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    So a Boris will take a Bluto?

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    Often times the skewer needs to be tightened up.


    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    so today i installed a new handlebar and grips, and re routed the cables so they are on the proper sides. got it all back together, and now i have some bad creaking coming from the front tire. it definitely sound like the spokes, as it is almost like a raking sound, as if something was sticking in them (like a kid with a baseball card). also, it is only happening when the wheel/bike is turned to the right. any thoughts on what it might be? mayb e i should grease the skewer a little bit? it is not the brake, there is no noise when i am not on it. also, it isnt in the pedals as the noise occurs whether pedaling or not.

    thanks in advance!

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    I did my first long ride today (17.3 miles) over dry conditions, lots of rocks and roots, I started the day at 15 psi but it was way to harsh, decided to drop it to 10psi and it made a huge difference, probably could of let more out but decided not to. This bike is way to heavy to think about a 1x10 set up IMO that granny gear comes in handy during long steep climbs.

    I personally think this bike would benefit greatly with a suspension fork, Some of the sections I run rather fast on with my 29er I had to slow it down due to how much I was bouncing around and I did not want to fly off the trail. It was a really good work out and im sure it will only make me faster the next time I ride the Camber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    So a Boris will take a Bluto?
    It should with this external bearing for tapered Bluto.

    Crane Creek bottom assembly

    I think Inset 7 should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post

    I personally think this bike would benefit greatly with a suspension fork, Some of the sections I run rather fast on with my 29er I had to slow it down due to how much I was bouncing around and I did not want to fly off the trail. It was a really good work out and im sure it will only make me faster the next time I ride the Camber.
    Well, it is still rigid, for sure. My other bike is a rigid 29er and the Boris is a couch in comparison. Going downhill of course. Up - it makes it up more, but not faster. Fun and function over speed.

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    Boris report....

    Swapped the Atlas bars for Mary bars. The Atlas bars had my hands going numb. We'll see how the Mary bars do. Cleaned, regreased, and adjusted the front hub. Whatever was used to grease the hubs felt like it had grit in it.

    At 12psi I don't have the super soft cushion (still soft though)on the trail, but the self steer is almost gone on pavement and pretty much nonexistent on the trail. I'm eventually going to swap the Vee8s for Floaters, I think. They don't hook up very well in the soft stuff. My last ride had the rear lose grip at some inopportune times.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    That is exactly what it was - they both stick out about a millimeter, maybe 1.5 - I'll have to stick a couple washers on as well, that'll make a better permanent solution.
    I had that annoying rub all ride long, which bolts need more washers? The ones holding the caliber or the actual bracket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I had that annoying rub all ride long, which bolts need more washers? The ones holding the caliber or the actual bracket?
    The bolts that hold the brake itself to the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I had that annoying rub all ride long, which bolts need more washers? The ones holding the caliber or the actual bracket?
    The bracket.

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    Has anyone installed 4.7" tires on their Boris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    It should with this external bearing for tapered Bluto.

    Crane Creek bottom assembly

    I think Inset 7 should work.

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    I've been looking at that same setup. Might have to chase the head tube a bit as I think those cups sit in a little deeper.

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    I forgot to mention I got a lot of complements on the bike, One guy even asked if he could sit on it and ride it, I was like sure. Then I told him the price and he was blown away. He said for that price you could throw another 600 bucks into and have a really great bike that still cost less than other fatbikes on the market, I said sure, or you could be cheap like me and leave it alone and just have fun with it....lol
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    I had the top of the pad rubbing the disc, so I dremeled off the paint off the fork under the caliper bracket and that made it a little better. I dunno if it's the caliper or the fork. I'm probably going to put some hydraulics on it. What's a good budget hydraulic setup? I don't want to do xts or anything, just something functional. I was looking at the various shimanos and dracos. I'd rather go with a mineral oil setup, but there are so many models of shimano.. I have a set of bb7s but they need pads, maybe I'll just do that for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I had the top of the pad rubbing the disc, so I dremeled off the paint off the fork under the caliper bracket and that made it a little better. I dunno if it's the caliper or the fork. I'm probably going to put some hydraulics on it. What's a good budget hydraulic setup? I don't want to do xts or anything, just something functional. I was looking at the various shimanos and dracos. I'd rather go with a mineral oil setup, but there are so many models of shimano.. I have a set of bb7s but they need pads, maybe I'll just do that for now.

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    I've been using shimano m486 hydros on my main bike for a few years. They're hydros, they work, i've had no major problems with them. The shimano pads and rotors aren't great, can't use metallic pads. I swapped to avid rotors, world of a difference. They tend to misalign easy when removing and reinstalling wheels. I use bb7s on another bike, and they simply can't be beat for the price. Way easier to adjust and deal with. I would take bb7s over budget hydros any day.
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    Yeah I was looking at the m446 for 85 bucks. I love the bb7s, they are the best brakes I've ever used but I figured the hydraulics would have more stopping power and I was curious about them anyways.

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    Shimano 615s can be had for less than $100 per set on ebay. I'm running 596s on the Boris and 615s on my Krampus. Both were had for less than I would have paid for bb7s with levers. I picked up the 596s at Chain Reaction. Invest in a decent bleed kit for the Shimanos.
    I prefer my hydros over bb7s for personal reasons like adjustment and feel. I was always busy fiddling with the bb7s.

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    I have Avid DB3 on one bike and Shimano 615 on two others - the 615 are way better and only a few $$ more. I have a set of SLX M675 to go on my new build - not sure if they are better than the 615, but the cooling fins of the brake pads look sweet. The Deore 615 and SLX M675 look very close to the same brake. I do not have a scale but they are very close to the same weight.

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    Hi all,

    Has anyone gotten a back rack to fit on their x7? A normal, non-disc brake topeak rack supposedly fits on my fb4, but my husband just got his x7 yesterday, and it looks as if the only rack that will fit is one specifically made to accommodate disc brakes. Anyone tried yet? Since we have to order online, it makes it difficult. Or maybe a 29er rack would even be better? Thanks!

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    I have Avid DB3 on one bike and Shimano 615 on two others - the 615 are way better and only a few $$ more. I have a set of SLX M675 to go on my new build - not sure if they are better than the 615, but the cooling fins of the brake pads look sweet. The Deore 615 and SLX M675 look very close to the same brake. I do not have a scale but they are very close to the same weight.
    You can run the ice tech pads in tge 615s, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Re: Boris report....


    Mary bars are a mega improvement. Swapped out the stock seat for a Wtb Volt and reversed the rear tire tread. I'm getting more straight line traction, but it still washes out in curves and riding parallel on hills.

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    Thanks for all the pics and updates everybody. I am seriously considering selling my sweet steel HT to get a fatbike. I'm undecided between Boris and Lurch. Both look awesome, and I don't think either choice would be a bad one.

    Has anyone seen the X7 in "ocean blue" yet? I'd really like a blue one, but the X5 in my hands will end up getting money thrown at it. X7 is closer to where I want it out of the gate... Love to see a pic of the blue X7 if anyone has one?

    Still summer, but we just got 12cm of snow and more on the way tonight... How many ways do I need to justify a fat bike? Lol.

    Cheers all!

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    I have the x5 and love it.. Bars and stem I'd change on pretty much any bike, a 32t chainring that I had laying around, and some tires more geared towards dirt and snow. The missions, I've read a lot of reviews, and they say eh pretty much. The tread isn't deep enough for me. Brakes, I have a set of bb5s I refuse to put on anything they were pretty terrible so I'm gonna do bb7s or hydros. If they made the x9 in pearl white I may have gone that road, but the marginal upgrades of the x7 don't do it for me because I'd do every change differently anyways. Plus the Pearl white looks awesome.

    Basically if I spent the extra 100, I'd replace the tires, brakes, and the only thing I'd have is an extra gear in the back. But yeah, it depends on what your plans are. The best value is going to be what's best for you, but i wouldn't discount the x5, it's as solid of a setup as the x7 in lot ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsukuni View Post

    Still summer, but we just got 12cm of snow and more on the way tonight...

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    WTH are you located?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    You can run the ice tech pads in tge 615s, if I'm not mistaken.
    Yes you can - I got the SLX thinking they were "better" but they are almost the same (and the same can be said for the SLX vs the XT).The 615 have never left me feeling I need more power. The only big difference is the pads are held in by a cotter pin instead of a screw. Lots of older brakes ran that way without issue. I suppose I could probably tap the hole. LOL.

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    My Boris arrived yesterday morning and my husband (a self proclaimed recovering perfectionist and lifetime cyclist) spent 6 hours carefully disassembling and rebuilding Boris ... This is his "Boris Report" based on his build experience ...

    WHEELS
    The wheel bearings in both hubs required adjustment (a slight loosening) to feel relatively smooth. The rubber grease seal on the rear hub, the non-drive side, needed to be fully seated. The rims on both wheels will need to be trued, with the rear being significantly out of round (ovalized) by 5mm, the front about 3mm. Also, the lock ring on the cassette was only partially tightened (I noticed this in the process of removing the spoke protector behind the cassette) and the rear QR skewer slightly bent (it scrapes inside the axle tube when being inserted -- it'll be replaced in the near future). We're running 7psi front and 10psi rear as a starting point.

    DERAILLEURS
    Both derailleurs required adjustment, the front to align/position it relative to the chainrings and set the limit screws to avoid chain rub in the 22-34 and 36-11 ring/cog combinations. The limit screws on the rear derailleur were also incorrectly set, potentially allowing a shift past the 34 and 11 cogs on the cassette. Both derailleur cables were rerouted to arc to the outside of the headset as they approach the trigger shifters. All cables were re-secured with 4-inch zip ties replacing the snap-on/off clips that come with the bike and all cable ends were trimmed (e.g., the front derailleur cable end ticked against the right crank arm) and re-capped using shrink-wrap tubing. Shifting is excellent.

    BRAKES
    The rear brake was shimmed with stainless washers between the chainstay brake mount and the brake adapter, allowing enough free play for proper pad/disc alignment. Given that only the outer pad of the Tektro Novelas moves, the brakes were aligned such that the rotor was just barely away from the inside, non-moving pad. This contradicts Tektro's alignment instructions, which if followed, forces the rotor to constantly flex under braking as it passes through the caliper. Brake performance after adjustment and bedding-in is reasonable for mechanical discs on a heavy bike.

    MISCELLANEOUS
    One of the pedals required a bearing adjustment to be able to rotate freely. Don't overlook the crankarm pedal washers (in a separate small bag) when installing the pedals. Also don't assume the headset is properly adjusted before tightening the stem in place -- ours wasn't. The bottom bracket has a fair bit of stiction in the bearings (not adjustable). Finally, the seatpost collar/clamp is a bit wimpy -- allowing the seat to rotate after tightening -- and clumsy to use; it's already been replaced with a non-lever collar from Deity.

    OTHER OBSERVATIONS
    The frame design and build is impressive, although there is one pinhole (rust opportunity) in a dropout weld. The paint (and branding) looks good, although the paint chipped easily when the rear brake was shimmed and the aftermarket seatpost collar was installed. Note that there is no protection on the right chainstay; a Lizard Skins "Jumbo 29er" Chainstay Guard worked nicely.

    I would have preferred a seatpost without a seat clamp offset to the rear, given the small (15") frame size with a long-ish front-center. More importantly, the bike was delivered with 175mm crankarms; in my opinion a bike of this size should come with 170mm crankarms. A 170mm X5 crankset thus becomes the first upgrade.

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    I had a lot of the issues you guys did, minus the cranks being stiff and the wheel hub. I think a lot of that is to be expected from a shipped bicycle. Having to tune it, adjust the headset, things like that are pretty normal to see. They can't sit there and tune the bikes and everything just to disassemble and ship them out, so that's just part of the assembly. I tightened the spokes some and took it for a ride and got rid of the oval, and then trued the wobbles the best I could. I'm not very good at wheels I usually bring them to my dad for that, but I'm getting better.

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    That's what hubby said too... How we get them is probably how bikes shipped from overseas come into an LBS ...
    Wheels are off to Sugar Wheel Works to get trued ... Hubby trues our road and mt bike wheels when they need it, but he wanted Sugar to do these.

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    The cranks should spin free though, drag isn't good. I would contact bd about that.

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    LOL... Just outside Calgary. We'll be back to mid 20's Celsius by next week - freak snowstorm - but it's a reminder of what's coming...

    You make a good point on the X5. I'll probably be switching to hydraulic brakes regardless... Maybe I need to do more number crunching. That cobalt frame is sweet IMHO.

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    Re: Boris report....



    Went for a ride today.. Climbing rooted sandy areas is so much easier, but downhill bumpy areas are pretty tough. I haven't ridden a rigid bike in forever and this season I built an fs no less.. But it was still fun and I'll be back there tomorrow

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    Update-BD did well and offered reasonable credit for the bent forks. ( they did not have any in stock to send) I ordered a salsa enabler to replace which will be here tomorrow. The stock fork weighs 3.2 lbs so I figure about 2/3 of a lb weight savings right there.

    BB7s are excellent, one of the main reasons I went for the x9. Added 8 oz of slime to each tire w/surly light tubes. Waiting on a 70mm stem and this thing is ready for anything! Grease up your headset bearings-especially after 3 mos or so as they come a bit lite there. Bottom does not seal all that well either so something to keep an eye on.

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    Sorry I don't weigh it, ( or ride it ) without wheels or pedals. The wheels and tires are naturally heavy. The fork is too, for a rigid. 3.2 lbs. The frame,bars,stem are average. Seat is on the heavy side, but I swapped that out. I added a lb with the slime, but saved about the same with the fork/ stem/seat.

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    Just finished the split tire method tubeless.. Used 3.5' sill foam cut to fit the gap below the bead edges. wrapped twice. Split a q-tube 26 x 2.1-2.4 and placed over foam and rim strip. The foam is the secret...
    Aired up fine with a floor pump. Bounced them around a few times , took out air and added Stan's. Re-inflated and they are great.
    Will ride em around the neighborhood a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Update-BD did well and offered reasonable credit for the bent forks. ( they did not have any in stock to send) I ordered a salsa enabler to replace which will be here tomorrow. The stock fork weighs 3.2 lbs so I figure about 2/3 of a lb weight savings right there.
    How bad was your bent fork(s)? I'm settling an issue with Bikes Direct over a dented fork during shipment.
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    Has anyone ordered the x9 in silver? Any pictures?

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    What rear racks are people using or planning to use on their Boris's?

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    If I use one it will be a seat post mounted one so I can remove it easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by brassos View Post
    Just finished the split tire method tubeless.. Used 3.5' sill foam cut to fit the gap below the bead edges. wrapped twice. Split a q-tube 26 x 2.1-2.4 and placed over foam and rim strip. The foam is the secret...
    Aired up fine with a floor pump. Bounced them around a few times , took out air and added Stan's. Re-inflated and they are great.
    Will ride em around the neighborhood a bit.
    Without the foam, it takes forever with an air compressor to seat the tires. Here is my attempt.

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    I would run tubeless but i want to be able to change tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I would run tubeless but i want to be able to change tires

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    Changing tires was easy. I have about 1/2 " of cut tube over each rim side. Drop air, pop off tire and replace.
    How do I know? I accidentally put the front tire on backwards. Took it off flipped it and floor pumped it back up.
    The excess tube stays tight against the sidewall. Looks like part of the tire.

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    Are Boris front hubs, front disc spaced or rear disc spaced?

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