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    Are the rim strips with your x5 red or orange? Do you think those big adventure tires are worth anything? Would they be ok for sand or are they really just street tires?
    I use them on light trails that lead to the beach and they are pretty good. I use the Devist8ers for when I'm going to be doing more technical trails with mud and stuff. But I've ridden the adventures there and it really boils down to psi.

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    So BD is giving me 100 off for the bent rear wheel. Question is now do I want to try to fix the wheel or buy a replacement. Is there anything good in the $100 range?

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    Use it as chance to upgrade to a better set, spend a little.

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    My black X9 came yesterday. All went together good. No issues with forks, brakes or wheels. Shifts perfect. One cable was routed on wrong side. No biggie. I took off the crappy cable stays and wire tied everything. I put on a better seat post I had laying around and have better grips, pedals coming. My Surly Bud and Nate came today. Boy the lugs on them are waaay bigger. That combo seems to get the best reviews for snow riding. I'll be doing them tubeless. I haven't decided whether to do blue or white rim strips etc. I'll post up pics once it's all updated with the goodies.

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    Boris report....

    Let me know if the bid and Lou actually fit! Thanks for taking the challenge!


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    Quote Originally Posted by leftofedge View Post
    So BD is giving me 100 off for the bent rear wheel. Question is now do I want to try to fix the wheel or buy a replacement. Is there anything good in the $100 range?
    I took the wheel to the lbs and he spent hours and a mallet to make it round. They have terrible flat spots, but he did it. Only charged me 30 bucks

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    I love my black X9....just not as much as I did before I saw the silver and white colors!
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    Rave reviews on the LG X9 silver after a 3-4 weeks. With the Salsa enabler forks installed, different seat / seat post / stem, and slime in the tubes - it is fairly indestructible. Handled steep Sedona slick-rock like a champ. With a 8 oz. of slime in each tire it is sitting at 35.9 lbs. ( stock tires, continental DH tubes). I just don't trust tubeless with how loose the beads are on this rim - I don't want to be stranded. And my "regular" mtb is tubeless, so I know the benefits.

    The stock seat, seat post, stem are on the heavy side, so a lot of weight loss available there. The bars probably are on the heavy side too, but I like them and don't think new bars would be a great bargain for the weight savings. ( I already had a different seat and seat post).

    The bb7's have broken in nicely with no squealing, and the shifting is still spot on.

    One thing to check - the rear cog rings started to loosed up and I had to tighten up the nut - so check that. Keep in mind if you hear any weird noises. The one thing I did not check previously. Happy trails - Now if lighter wheel sets get reasonably priced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Rave reviews on the LG X9 silver after a 3-4 weeks. With the Salsa enabler forks installed, different seat / seat post / stem, and slime in the tubes - it is fairly indestructible. Handled steep Sedona slick-rock like a champ. With a 8 oz. of slime in each tire it is sitting at 35.9 lbs. ( stock tires, continental DH tubes). I just don't trust tubeless with how loose the beads are on this rim - I don't want to be stranded. And my "regular" mtb is tubeless, so I know the benefits.

    The stock seat, seat post, stem are on the heavy side, so a lot of weight loss available there. The bars probably are on the heavy side too, but I like them and don't think new bars would be a great bargain for the weight savings. ( I already had a different seat and seat post).

    The bb7's have broken in nicely with no squealing, and the shifting is still spot on.

    One thing to check - the rear cog rings started to loosed up and I had to tighten up the nut - so check that. Keep in mind if you hear any weird noises. The one thing I did not check previously. Happy trails - Now if lighter wheel sets get reasonably priced!
    Has anyone else upgraded the fork? Recommendations for fork upgrades?

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    Did the Bud and Nate fit the X9?


    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    My black X9 came yesterday. All went together good. No issues with forks, brakes or wheels. Shifts perfect. One cable was routed on wrong side. No biggie. I took off the crappy cable stays and wire tied everything. I put on a better seat post I had laying around and have better grips, pedals coming. My Surly Bud and Nate came today. Boy the lugs on them are waaay bigger. That combo seems to get the best reviews for snow riding. I'll be doing them tubeless. I haven't decided whether to do blue or white rim strips etc. I'll post up pics once it's all updated with the goodies.

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    I'm going to be mounting them tubeless, but lbs didn't have stems, so I had to order them. I have a buddy with a 907 with same frame design and 170mm rear. He has a 100mm clown shoe and his Nate fits. I shouldn't have any issue. I might have issue putting Bud on up front with caliper on, but we'll see. I road 11 miles yesterday and Missions did ok, but I road buddies 907 with Bud and Nate combo and it was like night and day.
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    Boris report....

    Looking forward to seeing it!


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    I can tell you to look for a fork that is set up for non-offset front wheel spacing, not the rear wheel spacing unless you want to do some brake caliper modifications. ( which I had to do) That being said, the enabler fork is awesome - and saved about 2/3 of a lb over the stock set. My dream fork was carbon, but couldn't justify the dough right now.

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    I'm going with carbon but will run it for a little while stock. I weighed my 21" this weekend and it was 37.5 lbs. Before Bud/Nate combo. Looks like new tires will be lighter than the Missions, so we'll see. I can loose about 20lbs off me, so going that route first. :-p

    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    I can tell you to look for a fork that is set up for non-offset front wheel spacing, not the rear wheel spacing unless you want to do some brake caliper modifications. ( which I had to do) That being said, the enabler fork is awesome - and saved about 2/3 of a lb over the stock set. My dream fork was carbon, but couldn't justify the dough right now.
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    Quite some time ago Bikes Direct posted a pic with a X9 with a Bluto and said would in November. We are well into October and there is no preorder for that bike yet on their site and when I ask them they say they know nothing about it, WTF? Hopefully they will at least be able to sell Bluto forks for decent price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Quite some time ago Bikes Direct posted a pic with a X9 with a Bluto and said would in November. We are well into October and there is no preorder for that bike yet on their site and when I ask them they say they know nothing about it, WTF? Hopefully they will at least be able to sell Bluto forks for decent price.
    The post was on august 19th on facebook - it just said coming soon and an order page will be created as soon as they have all the details.

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    No, it said available in November.

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    Took the Boris to my lbs today and they were able to get most of the dip out of the rim. Fully usable until I want to upgrade. They put on the Devist-8er ULs for me too. Bought a few bottle cages and a set of Evoke RL lock on grips. Got home and switched out the 700 stock bar with a 720 racelite I had in the shed. Oh, and this gunmetal gray is really growing on me. I'm glad I didn't buy gloss black. Next up will be a frame bag, fenders, and I just may go all out and put a rack on the back.






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    It'd be cool if they sold existing customers a bluto at a discount lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    It'd be cool if they sold existing customers a bluto at a discount lol

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    That would be nice eh?

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    I took my X9 out on the trail and didn't make it a lap when a stick jumped up in my rear derailleur and snapped the bracket that holds it on. Know where I can get one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    I took my X9 out on the trail and didn't make it a lap when a stick jumped up in my rear derailleur and snapped the bracket that holds it on. Know where I can get one?
    Contact Bikes Direct. They'll either tell you where to get a replacement or possibly send you a new one.


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    Bd sells them for 20 bucks or so. You could ask them for the number and maybe find one on ebay cheaper. I don't know which one they use, but i should pick up a spare so if you find out which it is let us know lol

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    We ordered these x7s for the kids last monday. Very impressed with the packaging and shipping. Bikes went together without a hitch and the paint looks great. These were suppose to be Christmas presents but I couldn't wait to give them over so Christmas in October for the youngens.

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    My 9 year old picked out this duct tape for rim strips. Pretty cool.

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    Walked into my LBS and they had a Borealis Yampa on the floor, WOW that bike is nice, yeah it was 5 grand but really nice. Anyway I watched this review on the bike and the guy gives his 2 cents on the Spec fatboy, you gotta watch it...
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    Boris report....

    I asked db which derailer hanger the x9 needed and they directed me to
    Their parts page....
    Not the most helpful but heck, not gonna hold it against them

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    Question guys. Is the crank square taper for the x7? looking to replace bent crank arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip21 View Post
    Question guys. Is the crank square taper for the x7? looking to replace bent crank arm.
    No. It's a similar setup to the SRAM GXP. A hollow spindle in which a bolt on the non drive side is threaded and tightened down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    I asked db which derailer hanger the x9 needed and they directed me to
    Their parts page....
    Not the most helpful but heck, not gonna hold it against them

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    I did the same thing. They sent me URL link to bracket page. I found it and compared it to the one I ordered from Universal Cycles. Looks the same. Mine was in two pieces so a little more difficult to get an exact match. When they show I'll post the part number from UC and from derailleurhanger.com
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    Got my Silver X9 today. Put it together at lunch and rode it some after work. Never rod a fat bike before so it was something else. The first thing I noticed was you didn't have to care about where you went anymore, just point and go and the tires eat t up. I notice the chain is very close to the existing tires and you likely never get any wider on the rear. I rode only a few minutes but it seemed to handle well, in fact better than I expected. The tire size didn't seem to slow me down really. I was all set to get a Bluto for it right away but after my wife and I were out yesterday I won't be doing any single track for a couple months. We encountered 3 rattlesnakes and 2 tried to attack so we will stay on paved for awhile. First time I've been on a rigid fork since the 90's but I don't mind it at all. The tires seem to soak it up good at 18 PSI.

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    So what kinda crank arm can i get... or am i just screwed lol.

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    Don't let the snakes scare you just keep moving lol

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    Question guys. Is the crank square taper for the x7? looking to replace bent crank arm.
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    So what kinda crank arm can i get... or am i just screwed lol.
    No its not square. Look at the sram gxp, but you'll have to find out the width if you're doing the drive side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Got my Silver X9 today. Put it together at lunch and rode it some after work. Never rod a fat bike before so it was something else. The first thing I noticed was you didn't have to care about where you went anymore, just point and go and the tires eat t up. I notice the chain is very close to the existing tires and you likely never get any wider on the rear. I rode only a few minutes but it seemed to handle well, in fact better than I expected. The tire size didn't seem to slow me down really. I was all set to get a Bluto for it right away but after my wife and I were out yesterday I won't be doing any single track for a couple months. We encountered 3 rattlesnakes and 2 tried to attack so we will stay on paved for awhile. First time I've been on a rigid fork since the 90's but I don't mind it at all. The tires seem to soak it up good at 18 PSI.
    Awesome, my Silver X9 I will pick up tomorrow from UPS and come home and assemble along with many goodies I picked up for it...I usually ride a 29er C-Dale Scalpel so very, very excited about going fat and rigid...its got me so hyped for winter riding...I can't wait!

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    Truvativ Left Isis Crank > Components > Drivetrain > Cranksets | Jenson USA

    Is this the type of crank arm I need? ISIS ..... might need a name change

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    Truvativ Left Isis Crank > Components > Drivetrain > Cranksets | Jenson USA

    Is this the type of crank arm I need? ISIS ..... might need a name change
    The Boris bikes have outboard bearings not sealed cartridge bearings, so a square taper or isis won't work. Something similar to a truvativ gxp. I'm not sure if the threads or grooves are the same though.
    More like this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Got my Silver X9 today. Put it together at lunch and rode it some after work. Never rod a fat bike before so it was something else. The first thing I noticed was you didn't have to care about where you went anymore, just point and go and the tires eat t up. I notice the chain is very close to the existing tires and you likely never get any wider on the rear. I rode only a few minutes but it seemed to handle well, in fact better than I expected. The tire size didn't seem to slow me down really. I was all set to get a Bluto for it right away but after my wife and I were out yesterday I won't be doing any single track for a couple months. We encountered 3 rattlesnakes and 2 tried to attack so we will stay on paved for awhile. First time I've been on a rigid fork since the 90's but I don't mind it at all. The tires seem to soak it up good at 18 PSI.
    While I had the Missions, I varied PSI from 8 to 20. There is a lot of self steer in the 8-11 range, very noticeable on the blacktop. 10 was good on the dirt and loose stuff. I recently switched to Floaters. At 10, there was no self steer on the blacktop. Both setups were tubeless. What part of the trail did you see the snakes?

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    The snakes were just before the bridge at the bottom of the hill and on Chaos trail. Jumped the Boris last night. Yes I now see I need the bluto. How sure are you those parts is all that's needed for adding bluto fork. If that's all it takes I might buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    The snakes were just before the bridge at the bottom of the hill and on Chaos trail. Jumped the Boris last night. Yes I now see I need the bluto. How sure are you those parts is all that's needed for adding bluto fork. If that's all it takes I might buy it.
    Here is the email I received:
    Thanks for your question. You will need a ZS44 upper assembly and an EC44/40 lower assembly. Please let me know if you have any other questions.




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    I have a Motobecane Boris X9 fat bike. I want to change the fork to a Rock Shox Bluto which is a tapered fork. My Boris has a straight 1 1/8" fork. The headset is a VP-A42E. Do you have a headset or a bottom external bearing that will allow the tapered Bluto to fit?




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    Hello,
    I replaced my original crank set with these: Race Face
    I found them in another thread here. I could have used them with my furnished bottom bracket, but they came with a fat bike 100 mm BB.
    I put a bash guard on the outside and went with a 32t race face single ring. I left the granny gear attached as this crank set still has a fixed smaller spider to hold one. I can manually drop the chain to the granny if i need to.
    I paid 90.00 new BB included. I will post the link if i can find it.

    additions: PIc is of cheap cranks with the race face bash guard, lol...
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    race face crank

    Here is the original thread link: http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/new...x5-929851.html
    and here is where i caught the sale:
    Race Face Ride-FatBike arms/BB only, (100) 175 black, Cranks Without Chainrings

    Good luck easy as changing a tire...
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    Ok, thanks radnur. I will see how the budget goes, Bluto may have to wait a couple months. Doesn't seem like the bigger tires drag you down that much. I did my regular ride in about the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Ok, thanks radnur. I will see how the budget goes, Bluto may have to wait a couple months. Doesn't seem like the bigger tires drag you down that much. I did my regular ride in about the same time.
    I'll wait until spring for the bluto.

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    My Boris X9 in Silver was received today and overall, solid bike. I assembled it today. Installed a bunch of stuff:
    - Ibera PakRack IB-RA5
    - Easton Haven bars
    - Easton CF seat post
    - C-dale locking grips
    - Shimano Saint platform pedals.

    I ordered PDW Front and Rear Mud Shovel fenders, and a Stan's kit to change these VEE missions over to tubeless...I need to do some dialing in of the brakes as front is too much pull and rear just don't stop well. Also need to adjust the rear derailleur because it won't shift above the 5th sprocket...front derailleur is butter.

    Overall, love the bike and look forward to getting everything functioning perfectly and doing some local trail riding!





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    Doublepost....dolt

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScalpelOne View Post
    My Boris X9 in Silver was received today and overall, solid bike. I assembled it today. Installed a bunch of stuff:
    - Ibera PakRack IB-RA5
    - Easton Haven bars
    - Easton CF seat post
    - C-dale locking grips
    - Shimano Saint platform pedals.

    I ordered PDW Front and Rear Mud Shovel fenders, and a Stan's kit to change these VEE missions over to tubeless...I need to do some dialing in of the brakes as front is too much pull and rear just don't stop well. Also need to adjust the rear derailleur because it won't shift above the 5th sprocket...front derailleur is butter.

    Overall, love the bike and look forward to getting everything functioning perfectly and doing some local trail riding!




    Check out post #399 in this thread to straighten out your rack and give yourself clearance for a mudshovel. You can get the longer arms at Bikepakmart for $6.99 shipped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    Check out post #399 in this thread to straighten out your rack and give yourself clearance for a mudshovel. You can get the longer arms at Bikepakmart for $6.99 shipped.


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    Awesome, I actually saw your post and ordered them, so I have the longer arms here...plan on installing them when the mudshovel shows up Thanks for your input, I appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScalpelOne View Post
    Awesome, I actually saw your post and ordered them, so I have the longer arms here...plan on installing them when the mudshovel shows up Thanks for your input, I appreciate it!
    I never made it clear on the mounting procedure, so here's a pic for any with questions.
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    The original hardware is removed and the new arms are reversed with the small hole mounted directly to the rack. The slots are mounted to the frame which still gives you some adjustment in angle. I reused the bolts from the original rack arms with nuts and lock-washers. You'll also need to bend the reflector plate under the rack or remove it to make clearance for the mudshovel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    I never made it clear on the mounting procedure, so here's a pic for any with questions.
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    Man you read my mind...I was gonna send you a PM to post up a close up...haha. AWESOME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScalpelOne View Post
    Man you read my mind...I was gonna send you a PM to post up a close up...haha. AWESOME.
    No problem. Hope it helps.

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    Dumb question... while I am waiting for my bike to arrive, do I need standard or metric tools? Thanks... Oct 9th... and the month is getting shorter, HURRY UP AND GET HERE DAMN BORIS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tequilasunset View Post
    Dumb question... while I am waiting for my bike to arrive, do I need standard or metric tools? Thanks... Oct 9th... and the month is getting shorter, HURRY UP AND GET HERE DAMN BORIS!!!!
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    Yeah, just need a metric set of hex (allen) wrenches and you should be good to go...I have this torque wrench at home I got off of Amazon, works fine. http://www.amazon.com/VENZO-Bicycle-...+torque+wrench

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScalpelOne View Post
    Yeah, just need a metric set of hex (allen) wrenches and you should be good to go...I have this torque wrench at home I got off of Amazon, works fine. Amazon.com: VENZO Bicycle Bike Torque Wrench Allen Key Tool Socket Set Kit: Sports & Outdoors
    Nice... just ordered one (do you make a commission?) LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tequilasunset View Post
    Nice... just ordered one (do you make a commission?) LOL
    Sure, PM me for my paypal address. hahaha!

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    Just wondering if anyone could help me out since some of you have already purchased some these upgrades. I'm looking at a Cane Creek suspension seat post and need to know what mm these seat post are and I want some riser handle bars and would like suggestions on that and what size. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    need to know what mm these seat post and handle bars
    Seat post on the Boris is 31.6mm and the handlebar clamp diameter is 31.8mm

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    I got the white rim strips done and mounted Surly Bud and Nate combo. Plenty of room. I am waiting on tape to go tubeless. I like the white and black look. Lugs on the Surly's are huge. The rear derailleur hanger was Hanger #27 from Universal Cycles part 5949-13026.Boris report....-20141010_081118.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    I got the white rim strips done and mounted Surly Bud and Nate combo. Plenty of room. I am waiting on tape to go tubeless. I like the white and black look. Lugs on the Surly's are huge. The rear derailleur hanger was Hanger #27 from Universal Cycles part 5949-13026.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by smccloud View Post
    And what is that behind the Boris?
    I dragged race for 12 years or so. That is a 1990 Ford Probe that I made RWD and then put a Toyota Supra 2jz motor in it with a 80mm turbo. It made 1100whp and went 1/4 mile in [email protected] I think mountain biking has been more dangerous though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    I dragged race for 12 years or so. That is a 1990 Ford Probe that I made RWD and then put a Toyota Supra 2jz motor in it with a 80mm turbo. It made 1100whp and went 1/4 mile in [email protected] I think mountain biking has been more dangerous though.
    Lol, probably more expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    Seat post on the Boris is 31.6mm and the handlebar clamp diameter is 31.8mm
    Great, thanks. I love look of the creek suspension seat post.

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    The mods continue. My rear fender, Ibera rack, and headlight came in today (Windfire 1600 CREE XM-L T6 from Amazon). I installed Wellgo MG-1 pedals yesterday but I'm on the fence about putting my SPD pedals on instead. My front PDW should be here tomorrow. Had to do some major adjustments to the rear derailleur today since it was double shifting and binding up on the lowest gear.

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    Ordered my x5 yesterday! Finally! Been deliberating for months! It won't be "x5" for long though. 😉
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    Re: Boris report....

    I think I left one of my lungs on the second hill.

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    I want to buy a Bluto so bad but I'm afraid it may sweep the front wheel back in towards the frame a solid inch or two and make the ride and feel strange. I guess I should get off my ass and measure how much change it would be. I also wonder if the fork would ram into the frame? Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I want to buy a Bluto so bad but I'm afraid it may sweep the front wheel back in towards the frame a solid inch or two and make the ride and feel strange. I guess I should get off my ass and measure how much change it would be. I also wonder if the fork would ram into the frame? Any thoughts?
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    Bud fits no problem up front as we know. Here are some clearance pics.Boris report....-imageuploadedbytapatalk1413072846.690792.jpg
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    These bikes sure seem like great bang for the buck!!!! Been looking at Farley 6, Pugs, Fatboys...just so damn hard to part away with $1800 and up when you on a budget. Boris X9 looks super clean
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    Bud fits no problem up front as we know. Here are some clearance pics.Click image for larger version. 

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    What's in the rear? That's the big clearance issue I'm wondering about...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    What's in the rear? That's the big clearance issue I'm wondering about...


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    Looks like the stock missions that came with the bike..
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    I'll mount the bud up in the rear to see if the chain clears and post pics

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    Thx! I got some replacement floaters but if bud and Lou will fit I may go look for a set


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    It doesn't fit in the rear, it get's stuck between the chain stays. Boris report....-imageuploadedbytapatalk1413085270.213720.jpg

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    Thanks for taking the extra time to mount it up!


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    I'm sure a surly nate will fit just fine in the rear, its listed as a 3.8, so I may put that in the rear and a Bud up front..... so that means I spent 800 for bike and two tires cost 240 BUCKS!!!!!
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    Yeah that's how that goes Hahaha.. I got Devist8er uls for 40 a tire. I think they'll be fine. I may get some floaters or something we'll see.

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    Where did you find the devist8er ULs for that price, if you don't mind my asking? That's a really good deal! Best I've found so far was at Jensonusa for around $70/ea. I can't imagine a situation where the stock x5 "Big Adventures" are going to get used. So I'd like to have tires ready to go when it arrives. What tubes are you going to run in them?

    Btw, for anyone else looking tires, the devist8er ULs that ou2mame mentions above get a good review here:
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    I got them at the lbs, they were having a sale and they were already on sale so it worked out really well. Otherwise the cheapest I found them was on ebay. They are great on mud and sand, and on tech trails so I think they'll be ok for some snow. I'm prepared to buy better tires for the snow but if these work then that's great.

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    Western Bike Works has the Devist8er Ul for $104 shipped for a set.

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    I don't know who came up with the whole fat tires have 20% greater rolling resistance speech but I don't buy it. I've been doing my regular 9.3 mile loop 5 minutes faster than I ever did on my full suspension small tire Trek. My wife and I just went for ride together, I let her try my Boris and I had a hard time keeping up on her skinny tire bike. These big tire bikes seem to be faster from what I can tell.

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    Good to know, Re: Devist8er performance, Western Bike Works, and faster rolling. Thanks to all. Google time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I'm sure a surly nate will fit just fine in the rear, its listed as a 3.8, so I may put that in the rear and a Bud up front..... so that means I spent 800 for bike and two tires cost 240 BUCKS!!!!!
    That's what I did. Bud on the front and Nate on the rear. I sold my Missions for $100 to a guy that bought a Walgoose Dolamite.
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    what is the purpose of having the beastly wide tire up front and the more narrow tire on the rear (other than the fact that a Lou wouldn't fit on the back I assume?)

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    Traction. At least in my mind... If your front washes out your bit going anywhere


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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtrobo View Post
    what is the purpose of having the beastly wide tire up front and the more narrow tire on the rear (other than the fact that a Lou wouldn't fit on the back I assume?)
    I guess I could see where the wider up front may float better setting up a good track for the rear to follow but if you look at motorcycles they have way wider in the rear instead of front. Overall steering may suck worse with bigger in the front from what I think, but the main reason is setting up a good path for the rear to follow in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtrobo View Post
    what is the purpose of having the beastly wide tire up front and the more narrow tire on the rear (other than the fact that a Lou wouldn't fit on the back I assume?)
    I've read that those with 170mm rear that the Bud/Nate combo was good for winter. The lugs on the Bud and Nate are huge vs Missions. If something bigger would fit I would've mounted it. My buddy has the 9zero7 frame and he has 100mm Clown shoes with Bud/Nate. He says the Nate rubs on his in lowest gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I guess I could see where the wider up front may float better setting up a good track for the rear to follow but if you look at motorcycles they have way wider in the rear instead of front. Overall steering may suck worse with bigger in the front from what I think, but the main reason is setting up a good path for the rear to follow in.
    Motorcycles are different because of the speed. On road especially you don't want tire flex because it makes it unstable. On a mtb, we aren't hitting the rpms, so we can have the benefit of a larger front tire. They absorb more impact, roll-over obstacles easier, and float on soft stuff better. They also have more contact to the ground so they stop better and hold the ground in turns. Smaller rear will make the bike turn better too, and generally you don't need the back to go over stuff as easily as the front. At speed though, these things change because of the drawbacks and benefits of speed. With a dirt bike you want skinnier tires with self cleaning knobs for soft stuff. But the harder the ground, the wider the front tire while offroad for the same reasons as a mtb. At least that's how I see it. There's a bit of personal preference there to change things for your riding style.

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    I know this might be apple vs oranges but my camber came stock with 2.3 in the front and 2.1 in the rear....yeah its not a huge difference but it works.
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    All good points made above.

    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I know this might be apple vs oranges but my camber came stock with 2.3 in the front and 2.1 in the rear....yeah its not a huge difference but it works.
    I run my heckler the same way. Nice to have something slightly lighter on the back since your "engine" has to spin that puppy.
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    Has anyone put a bash guard on the stock x5 crankset?

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    Would the on one carbon fatty fork fit the boris? On-One Carbon Fatty Fork | On - One
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    so is the consensus that 4.8 front and 3.8 rear is the widest allowable tire? what are the cheapest "floater/snow" tires out there?

    On-one tires look decent but are only available in 4", so i'm guessing that would be a no-go for the rear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I don't know who came up with the whole fat tires have 20% greater rolling resistance speech but I don't buy it. I've been doing my regular 9.3 mile loop 5 minutes faster than I ever did on my full suspension small tire Trek. My wife and I just went for ride together, I let her try my Boris and I had a hard time keeping up on her skinny tire bike. These big tire bikes seem to be faster from what I can tell.
    Yes, I agree. I ride farther faster since getting my fat bike. I think some people focus on the times when it does feel slower. There are times when it feels faster too. Over the entire ride I feel it's better on average.

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    The bike comes stock with 4" tires so I assume that anything that is a 4" will fit. It's when you go into the 4.5-5" tires that they don't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saliva2002 View Post
    so is the consensus that 4.8 front and 3.8 rear is the widest allowable tire? what are the cheapest "floater/snow" tires out there?

    On-one tires look decent but are only available in 4", so i'm guessing that would be a no-go for the rear?
    I put 4.25 front and rear on my X7 with no issues at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Would the on one carbon fatty fork fit the boris? On-One Carbon Fatty Fork | On - One
    You would have to make sure that the fork is set up for a front spaced hub like what's on the Boris. I ordered the Carver O'beast and it is a front spaced fork. It will match the Boris. If your hub is rear spaced then a 5mm spacer or less might be needed. Also, make sure the skewer is correct. Looks like the On-One is a through Axle?
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    I'm sure there are other pics of a Boris with the PDK fenders but here's a couple more. I put the rear on a couple weeks ago and after one ride in the mud I quickly realized I need the front too. I just put it on tonight and snapped a few pics. I'm a little worried my legs/feet may bump into the front fender in certain situations. It's raining like a mofo here tonight so I should be able to test it out tomorrow.






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    To each his own there. My other bike is a 23 lb rigid with a saguaro 2.2 on the back, and a exiwolf 2.3 on the front. On the same xc hardpack (very flat) trails it is definitely 15% slower per my average strava times. I have no doubt is is faster going downhill - it is like a steamroller.
    The tires have more rolling resistance and weigh a lot more. On techy stuff, it is awesome and no slower, IMO. It really depends on the terrain. My fatty is 56% heavier, but only about 15% slower. But 25% more fun makes up for slower part as long as I am not in a group ride.

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    how bad(slow) is it on hardball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicetifer View Post
    I put 4.25 front and rear on my X7 with no issues at all.
    Surly brand 4.25?

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    My Boris is now waiting for me in Montana. I hope to drive down from Calgary to get it this weekend. In the mean time, I just came back from picking up a Lefty Max (attached to a Cannondale prophet). A friend of mine wants the bike (with conventional fork swapped onto it), and I'm going to get Craig at Mendon Cyclesmith to make me some clamps, and possibly build me a wheel on the cannondale hub while he's at it. Woohoo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Looks like my X9 is going on Craigslist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    Looks like my X9 is going on Craigslist.
    My thoughts exactly. Either that or give it to wife and buy this since she doesn't single track much.

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    I am surprised at the bluto excitement. I think because the tires are so huge you don't need a shock? I don't have any bike with more than 100 mm of travel though. Maybe if I was doing big jumps and big rocks? In the DC area it seems to be some rocks and lots of tree roots
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    Quote Originally Posted by donn12 View Post
    I am surprised at the bluto excitement.
    I agree. I understand the frenzy for Blutos and full squish, but the way I ride, rigid is actually better suited. We just pulled the trigger on our second Boris. My brother with an X7 and my son with an X9. My lurch is also a rigid.

    But as the French say "Vive la différence"

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    Quote Originally Posted by donn12 View Post
    I am surprised at the bluto excitement. I think because the tires are so huge you don't need a shock? I don't have any bike with more than 100 mm of travel though. Maybe if I was doing big jumps and big rocks? In the DC area it seems to be some rocks and lots of tree roots
    I also agree, there is just no need for it. but people want the newest and shiniest toy on the market. Im just fine keeping mine bone stock. its a good bike the way it sits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I also agree, there is just no need for it. but people want the newest and shiniest toy on the market. Im just fine keeping mine bone stock. its a good bike the way it sits.
    How many miles do you have on yours and what kind of riding. At first I didn't think it needed a Bluto either but I slowly found myself working my way off the pavement and back to single track rough riding. In that case yes I do need one and its rough as hell rigid.

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    So fat so Good... Errr I mean so far so good! I've not been slowed down by the lack of suspension but see how some people would want it. I've been able to keep up with 90+% of people with FS/suspension forks so I've not had the need to look at a suspension fork.
    Have over 550 mi on my x9. Smiling every freaking mile! Lots of single track, rocks are an issue but not a lot of jumping or roots, fair amount of sand, over 70k elevation during that time.

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    It's all about riding style. I don't want my tires so low that I'm smacking the rims on roots and logs, and I don't want them so pumped up that my tire can't track the ground because it's bobbing all over the place. A suspension fork is that middle ground of stability and comfort. It's not really about keeping up with other people for me, it's about control and ability to do rougher more technical areas. I still use my fs where the fat bike would slow me down or wear me out. I think the bluto would let me ride faster and have more control, while also allowing me to ride longer without fatigue and soreness. There's one thing my fs doesn't do well, soft. I can't ride through sand pits and snow, so I'd like the same control as my fs has on a fat bike. I think at that point I wouldn't take the fs out anymore. But until then, there's limits that I don't want to exceed.

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    I may have missed this, but how wide can we go on winter tires? MOTOUSA. com says 4.5 clearance. Maybe some snowshoes or floaters with icespike. Com studs

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    You can go bigger than the missions on the rear. Up to 4.25". Maybe Vee Bulldozers will fit. The 4.8 snowshoes probably not (4.7 snowshoes are the same width as missions and should fit). Floaters are fine. There is room for studs.

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    I think im going with Snow shoe in the front and surly nate for the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donn12 View Post
    I am surprised at the bluto excitement. I think because the tires are so huge you don't need a shock? I don't have any bike with more than 100 mm of travel though. Maybe if I was doing big jumps and big rocks? In the DC area it seems to be some rocks and lots of tree roots
    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    I agree. I understand the frenzy for Blutos and full squish, but the way I ride, rigid is actually better suited. We just pulled the trigger on our second Boris. My brother with an X7 and my son with an X9. My lurch is also a rigid.

    But as the French say "Vive la différence"
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    I also agree, there is just no need for it. but people want the newest and shiniest toy on the market. Im just fine keeping mine bone stock. its a good bike the way it sits.
    It's all about what someone wants. That is what America is about, freedom to choose. If I want to spend my hard earned money on a fatty with a bluto, that's my choice. I'm sure bike companies wouldn't invest the $$ in something they thought wouldn't sell. Rhetorical question: Why did Rock Shox develop the Bluto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saliva2002 View Post
    Surly brand 4.25?
    No I have the Vee H-Billie's

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I also agree, there is just no need for it. but people want the newest and shiniest toy on the market. Im just fine keeping mine bone stock. its a good bike the way it sits.
    No one "needs" this stuff. My hands hurt like hell after a summer on my fat bike with a rigid fork. Granted my hands are under more stress than most human beings for a list of reasons, but I am at the point now that the temps are dropping that i "need" a suspension fork. I will have to move back to my 26 FS if I don't take edge off of the front end of my fat bike (ie i don't really "need" anything). No person with any knowledge of the evolution of the MTB could say that a front fork bike doesn't have advantages over one without. It just so happens many of those benefits transfer to fat bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaycj View Post
    No one "needs" this stuff. My hands hurt like hell after a summer on my fat bike with a rigid fork. Granted my hands are under more stress than most human beings for a list of reasons, but I am at the point now that the temps are dropping that i "need" a suspension fork. I will have to move back to my 26 FS if I don't take edge off of the front end of my fat bike (ie i don't really "need" anything). No person with any knowledge of the evolution of the MTB could say that a front fork bike doesn't have advantages over one without. It just so happens many of those benefits transfer to fat bikes.
    One of the most overlooked facts is hand position. No doubt that a suspension fork is great and will alleviate hand, wrist and shoulder stress, but it should also be noted that hand at natural rest positions is a lot less stressful than typical mountain bike straight or nearly straight bars. My natural rest position is around 45 degree and I'm off on a quest to get a handlebar that fits that.

    Looks like this is the one, at least for me.

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    Boris report....

    Jones H bars.
    Had wrist discomfort, tingling and numbness with straight bars, did lots of adjusting then tried the jones and NO comparison. (Plus lots of storage space on te bars them selves) I have bike bell, bear bell, computer on mine with tons or room left over. More expensive than the amazon bars but better quality in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    It's all about what someone wants. That is what America is about, freedom to choose. If I want to spend my hard earned money on a fatty with a bluto, that's my choice. I'm sure bike companies wouldn't invest the $$ in something they thought wouldn't sell. Rhetorical question: Why did Rock Shox develop the Bluto?
    This is exactly what I was trying to say, though apparently not as clearly. For now, I don't want a Bluto or a full suspension bike, but i am delighted that the technology is going that way. It can only improve fatbikes and a increase their appeal to a wider market base. More people on fatbikes (or any bike for that matter) can only be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Jones H bars.
    Had wrist discomfort, tingling and numbness with straight bars, did lots of adjusting then tried the jones and NO comparison. (Plus lots of storage space on te bars them selves) I have bike bell, bear bell, computer on mine with tons or room left over. More expensive than the amazon bars but better quality in my opinion.
    I so want a Jones Loop. (I really had to resist the temptation to post "I am Jonesing for a Jones"). It is next on my list of upgrades.
    Congrats on yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpyride View Post
    One of the most overlooked facts is hand position. No doubt that a suspension fork is great and will alleviate hand, wrist and shoulder stress, but it should also be noted that hand at natural rest positions is a lot less stressful than typical mountain bike straight or nearly straight bars. My natural rest position is around 45 degree and I'm off on a quest to get a handlebar that fits that.

    Looks like this is the one, at least for me.

    Amazon.com : FSA - Metropolis Handlebar, 62cm x 31.8mm, Black : Road Bike Handlebars : Sports & Outdoors
    My kind of bars! I have the Metropolis on my Sawyer and Kona and these On one Marys on my Fatty are just as good. On-One Mary Handlebar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunalic View Post
    My kind of bars! I have the Metropolis on my Sawyer and Kona and these On one Marys on my Fatty are just as good. On-One Mary Handlebar

    I had looked at the On-Ones. The other thing I was striving for was to get the handlebars further back relative to the headset. I have very short arms and a shorter effective top tube always works best, but I'm too stretched out on the X9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Jones H bars.
    Had wrist discomfort, tingling and numbness with straight bars, did lots of adjusting then tried the jones and NO comparison. (Plus lots of storage space on te bars them selves) I have bike bell, bear bell, computer on mine with tons or room left over. More expensive than the amazon bars but better quality in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpyride View Post
    I had looked at the On-Ones. The other thing I was striving for was to get the handlebars further back relative to the headset. I have very short arms and a shorter effective top tube always works best, but I'm too stretched out on the X9.
    When I ordered my Fatty I got the On One Marys at the same time. I rode around the house with them wide 760mm El Guapos and that was all I could stand. I was amazed at what a difference it made.

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    Boris report....

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    What frame bag is that? It looks great!
    Jpaks in Colorado. He's on this forum. Holds my water bladder, has pump sleeve, two compartments. He can build it anyway you want. Just needs a template


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    I tried putting the Bud and Nate on rims tubeless with no luck. Tires are big time loose. Any one have any tricks on the stock wheels and tubeless?
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    I haven't tried going tubeless yet either but I have all the Stan's kit and everything. Check out this blog post. Tubeless Fatbike Conversion Update | Cycles In Life

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    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    I tried putting the Bud and Nate on rims tubeless with no luck. Tires are big time loose. Any one have any tricks on the stock wheels and tubeless?
    To get the tire to center on the wheel, you need to fill the void with sill plate foam or weather stripping foam. Otherwise, the tire falls into the "valley" of the wheel. Use the search function on this forum, plenty of posts regarding or youtube it.

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    Boris report....

    Rode about 19 miles today with a group out of Idaho city, bout the slowest but can't say anyone had more fin than me! Was a mukluk on 29+ and a pugsley riding as well (the pugs was the first fat bike I ever rode) with a 650b hardtail, 26 hard tail, 29 hard tail and 29 FS....

    Boris is still doing great, no regrets.

    So far damage report is as follows-
    Bubbled tire, 120 tpi floater with pinch flat, on 3rd set of brake pads, busted spoke today.... And have deraileur adjustment Issues. None of this is the bikes fault, more my crap riding style!

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    Finally went across the border and picked up my X5 on Saturday. So far, she's gotten a few changes...removed the plastic spoke guard and reflectors (LOL), and then swapped in:

    Origin8 Devist8er tires, q-tubes, Raceface bar/stem, Spec lock-on grips, bolt-on front QR, Gusset flat pedals, Clark's Skeletal hydraulic brakes, Shimano XT shadow rear derailleur and Deore shifter.

    Will probably switch to a 185mm rotor up front. And I need to service my lefty and get a wheel built. Took her for a ride last night (just pathways for now) and she's a fun bike!

    Here's a shop pic, before I took her out.Boris report....-fullsizerender.jpg
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    Cool, where did you pick it Shelby?

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    What do you guys think is the better front tire for snow? Surly Bud, Surly Nate or Vee Rubber Snow Shoe. I want to order these soon, I am going to order a Nate for the rear, The only complaint I hear about the snow shoe is it is wears out fast if I was to use it on dirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Cool, where did you pick it Shelby?
    Sweetgrass, at the Montana Shipping Outlet, right next to the border.
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    I got an email... I got an email... I got an email...
    My Boris is in and they will starting shipping today!!!

    Update 10/22... arrives by next Weds
    Last edited by tequilasunset; 10-22-2014 at 04:29 PM.

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    Boris the evil brut

    On the way to your area in January: BORIS THE EVIL BRUT!
    He is treading in SnowShoes, has a 190 rear, nicely hung with XT, and dripping with gold parts. SPRUNG with BULTO, he can go about anywhere he wants.
    At the price we'll be offering him at, he'll be on his way to you sooner than you may think...buyer, beware..

    This was just posted on there FB page, why do they keep doing this? every week release a new Fatbike. I really like the look of this one but I got my X9 a few months back. Would it really be worth selling my X9 and buying this one, then a few months later they will release another new model....
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    Like cell phones... gotta keep up with other mfgs and always offer something better... soon.

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    Latest pic with Maverick sc32 fork

    Latest picture. All dressed for the Bronco game tonight!
    That's a mav sc32 with a 80mm rim and surly 3.8 Knard up front. Had the fork laying around from my older 26" Palomino. 203mm Rotor to clear spokes, rides fine.
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    So this is like the night train, except with more stand over clearance, qr rear instead of a thru axle, shimano derailleurs instead of Sram (xt vs x9) and gold accents.

    wished my night train on order had slx/xt instead of x7/x9. But I'll live.



    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    On the way to your area in January: BORIS THE EVIL BRUT!
    He is treading in SnowShoes, has a 190 rear, nicely hung with XT, and dripping with gold parts. SPRUNG with BULTO, he can go about anywhere he wants.
    At the price we'll be offering him at, he'll be on his way to you sooner than you may think...buyer, beware..

    This was just posted on there FB page, why do they keep doing this? every week release a new Fatbike. I really like the look of this one but I got my X9 a few months back. Would it really be worth selling my X9 and buying this one, then a few months later they will release another new model....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I really like the look of this one but I got my X9 a few months back. Would it really be worth selling my X9 and buying this one, then a few months later they will release another new model....
    Not sure if this is a serious question, but I am pretty sure you know the answer to this. At some point, your riding needs to be about riding,and not just the bike. Are you happy with your current bike?
    I actually get excited to look at new releases, and I really like bikes, but I certainly dont feel the need to constantly upgrade. I went for a ride yesterday on my cheap Cannondale and it was great. Certainly not great components, or lightweight, but it was a great ride,
    Relax, enjoy riding, and resist the urge to always have the latest model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    On the way to your area in January: BORIS THE EVIL BRUT!
    He is treading in SnowShoes, has a 190 rear, nicely hung with XT, and dripping with gold parts. SPRUNG with BULTO, he can go about anywhere he wants.
    At the price we'll be offering him at, he'll be on his way to you sooner than you may think...buyer, beware..

    This was just posted on there FB page, why do they keep doing this? every week release a new Fatbike. I really like the look of this one but I got my X9 a few months back. Would it really be worth selling my X9 and buying this one, then a few months later they will release another new model....
    I actually like the look of the frame of the current x models better. This looks too tubular and plain. To each their own of course.

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    my boris is on the way, but in the meantime, can someone give me the actual width clearance measurements for the front and rear tires... the 4.5 snowshoe measures out to be about 4.3. wondering if that will fit the rear. Would like to go bigger than the 3.8 nate in the back but may have to do 3.8 nate rear, snowshoe front.

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    Re: Boris report....


    Took my newly built Hope/mülfoot wheelset out for a ride today. I'm currently running tubes, but going tubeless once I get some sealant.

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by saliva2002 View Post
    I actually like the look of the frame of the current x models better. This looks too tubular and plain. To each their own of course.
    My Boris x7 meas 104 or 4.1 inches in the rear and 5 inches front. There's a pdf on a thread with actual Tire widths based on rim size. See if I can post a link.

    Quote Originally Posted by saliva2002 View Post
    my boris is on the way, but in the meantime, can someone give me the actual width clearance measurements for the front and rear tires... the 4.5 snowshoe measures out to be about 4.3. wondering if that will fit the rear. Would like to go bigger than the 3.8 nate in the back but may have to do 3.8 nate rear, snowshoe front.

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    Pdf on real tire sizes for different rim widths

    Hopefully this works. I can't take credit for it just passing it along. It's a very good reference.
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    awesome link thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Anyone with a Boris wishing they had a Bluto suspension fork? I am in the market, but am wondering if I should hold out for the Bluto version that they are taking pre-orders on now?

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    Boris report....

    I've been just fine without. Sure there are times that a little more squish could be nice but honestly haven't regretted getting rid if full squish bike at all. Still feel more in control and enough absorption with the tires to suit me. I'm not a big air guy, single tracks, sandy washes fire roads and gravel roads all handled the same. Everyone has different needs and wants, this far no need or want to change the base platform.


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    Well I have not washed my bike in months so today it was nice out so I decided to clean up fatty, while washing it I noticed a lot of parts were very loose (time to use some loctite), both brake brackets and bottom bracket, anyways I decided to take off the crank and noticed how heavy it feels, I was actually shocked. Anyway my question is, can you grease the BB on these? I dont own the tool to take it out so I figured I would ask first before I went through the hassle of buying the tool and taking it out. Or is it a sealed unit?

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    Boris report....

    Don't quote me but believe its a sealed bearing unit


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    I got my Carver O'Beast carbon fiber fork. I removed the fork and looks like the bottom bearing race will not come off. What size bottom race assembly or what do I need to get the O'Beast to work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    I've been just fine without. Sure there are times that a little more squish could be nice but honestly haven't regretted getting rid if full squish bike at all. Still feel more in control and enough absorption with the tires to suit me. I'm not a big air guy, single tracks, sandy washes fire roads and gravel roads all handled the same. Everyone has different needs and wants, this far no need or want to change the base platform.


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    Thanks! I rode an X7 on the singletrack here in Duluth for little bit and I loved it. Rode a Minnesota 2.0 as well and loved it. I am pretty certain I could ride one year round (aside from road riding) and ditch my hardtail 29er.

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    Depends on if you want a suspension fork or not. I'd like one and will probably get one, but for now I'm fine without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceWheeler View Post
    Anyone with a Boris wishing they had a Bluto suspension fork? I am in the market, but am wondering if I should hold out for the Bluto version that they are taking pre-orders on now?
    After riding my X9 and Camber 29er, I can tell you I prefer the suspension in the fork. I love the way my X9 rolls over things, but suspension on rough trails would help. If I upgrade my X9 to Bluto, I'll be spending $700 in parts (Bluto, bearings and hub). If I did it again, I'd wait for the X9 with Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    After riding my X9 and Camber 29er, I can tell you I prefer the suspension in the fork. I love the way my X9 rolls over things, but suspension on rough trails would help. If I upgrade my X9 to Bluto, I'll be spending $700 in parts (Bluto, bearings and hub). If I did it again, I'd wait for the X9 with Bluto.
    Oh, must have misunderstood. I thought the parts that Bikes Direct is sending to Boris owners here soon would allow use of Bluto with existing hub setup. I assumed just the Bluto and the Cane Creek parts which would be $525 total. If hub work is needed I may sell the bike mid winter then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScalpelOne View Post
    Sorry to dig up a super old post, but what kind of rack is that? I've got a Yakima that looks just like that and my Boris won't fit on it - tires don't go down in the grooves enough so the arm isn't long enough to go over the top. Do they sell different parts for it, or do I maybe just have one that's too old-school for a fattie?

    Sorry if this is a dumb question, but google is not helping me

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    That's a Yakima Holdup 2. I just ordered one for $347 shipped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    Oh, must have misunderstood. I thought the parts that Bikes Direct is sending to Boris owners here soon would allow use of Bluto with existing hub setup. I assumed just the Bluto and the Cane Creek parts which would be $525 total. If hub work is needed I may sell the bike mid winter then.
    The Boris with Bluto has a tapered head tube. In addition, the Bluto is a thru axle. Conversion would need a thru axle hub and Cane Creek parts. The only advantage with the conversion is you would have the chrome-moly fork for snow, but that is negated with the lockout on the Bluto.

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    Yes, I was just confused. I thought the Cane Creek parts is all that was needed. I will just give this bike to my wife and consider other options for Fat bikes later when more suspended options get out. I'm really starting to crave the 2015 Trek Remedy or Slash for now.

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    Boris x7



    Thought I'd post up here since I got a lot of info from this forum when deciding to go with this bike, I figured I'd return the favor! Just got the Boris X7 yesterday with the most recent round of shipments. The parts that came on it are exactly what is listed on bikesdirect website right now. Assembly took about 20 minutes. I did not have any issues that I read about in this forum like bent forks, rotors, or wheels that were untrue, etc. The rear brake came assembled and was adjusted perfectly. The front brake was not connected, so I did that and adjusted it, which didn't take long. I noticed no loose bolts anywhere. My derailleur did not need adjustment. Everything shifted fine.

    I took the VEE 8s off and swapped them with Surly Nates, I did not need any type tool other than my hands to do that! The tires are very easy to remove and they fall right off.

    All this being said, I have not rode the bike yet, but I'm hoping to get out today. Thanks for all the info in this thread, and as of right now, I am very pleased with what came out of the box!! It surpassed my expectations as I thought I'd have a little more adjusting/tweaking to do before I could take this bike for a ride, but honestly, this thing was ready to rip.

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    I got my Carver O'Beast carbon fiber fork. I removed the fork and looks like the bottom bearing race will not come off. What size bottom race assembly or what do I need to get the O'Beast to work?

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    I got the new fork on. I got the stock Crown race off the stock fork and it fit on the beast. Wow the different in weight is crazy. Feels like a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    I got the new fork on. I got the stock Crown race off the stock fork and it fit on the beast. Wow the different in weight is crazy. Feels like a new bike.
    Lots of shiny carbon fiber. Will be interesting to see what it weighs now. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    That's a Yakima Holdup 2. I just ordered one for $347 shipped
    Thanks for the reply. That's what I've got but mine is a few years old and the arm isn't long enough to squeeze over the front wheel - did some digging and figured out they made that arm longer in 2013 so the new ones work but mine won't. Bummed! I don't want to buy a new rack!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Lots of shiny carbon fiber. Will be interesting to see what it weighs now. :-)
    Yeah, drop it on the bathroom scale to get an idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Yeah, drop it on the bathroom scale to get an idea.
    Bathroom scale has it at 34.8. It weighed 37.8 before. Mine is a XL frame.
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    Boris X7 in Burnt Orange shipping confirmed . Estimated receipt by Tues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    Bathroom scale has it at 34.8. It weighed 37.8 before. Mine is a XL frame.
    I weighed it now with a legit scale and it weighed 33.84lbs. Nice reduction.
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    Just pulled the trigger on a X7. Even though they say they have 15'' burn orange in stock, they don't. So I got matte black.
    Now the waiting game begins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceWheeler View Post
    Just pulled the trigger on a X7. Even though they say they have 15'' burn orange in stock, they don't. So I got matte black.
    Now the waiting game begins...
    They look great in the matte black. Congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    They look great in the matte black. Congrats.
    Thanks, I am stoked!
    I was hesitant on the matte black, because after talking to the guy I met on the trail who had a matte black X7, he said it scuffed super easy. At the end of the day, I ride and use my bikes, I don't baby them to keep them nice looking, so it doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceWheeler View Post
    Thanks, I am stoked!
    I was hesitant on the matte black, because after talking to the guy I met on the trail who had a matte black X7, he said it scuffed super easy. At the end of the day, I ride and use my bikes, I don't baby them to keep them nice looking, so it doesn't really matter.
    I've had the opposite experience with mine. The finish has been one of the more durable of my bikes. I'm sure there are scuffs under the mud ,but, I haven't noticed any significant marks. My riding has taken me through lots of mud, rocks, and loose gravel too.


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    I just ordered the lilac (purple) x7... I'm wondering if there's any other photos out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbyte View Post
    I just ordered the lilac (purple) x7... I'm wondering if there's any other photos out there...
    Here's my purple X7, out in the wild

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    This picture makes it look a bit more bright than it is. I put a new stem, seatpost, and saddle on there and I think it looks pretty sharp. I really like it now that I've got it all set up! Waiting on Bud/Nate to show up, then it'll be all set for snow.

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    Anyone slap a Carver O beast carbon fork on a Boris yet?

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    Thanks!

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    This picture makes it look a bit more bright than it is. I put a new stem, seatpost, and saddle on there and I think it looks pretty sharp. I really like it now that I've got it all set up! Waiting on Bud/Nate to show up, then it'll be all set for snow.
    Better than I imagined. I have some Magura MTS brakes to put on, might check out the spank pedals, but mostly want to unbox and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma05 View Post
    Anyone slap a Carver O beast carbon fork on a Boris yet?
    See post #563.

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    Boris report....

    Boris report....-imageuploadedbytapatalk1414974036.342915.jpg

    Beautiful day!


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    Thanks Dave Not sure how I missed that one

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    Well im going to switch to a 1x10 and use the oneup 42t. has anyone else made the switch?
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    What frame bag is that and the top tube bag? hat size frame is that? Looks good!
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    If anyone out there has upgraded their handle bars and stems, what did you get and would you recommend it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_o View Post
    If anyone out there has upgraded their handle bars and stems, what did you get and would you recommend it?
    I consider bars and stems "fit" items so generally I choose something to change the fit the of the bike. Having said that, on my son's X9 we went with this bar and this stem in 70mm.

    The idea was to shorten the reach a bit and give him a slightly more upright position. Also the bars a couple of cm's shorter than the stock ones but with similar sweep. He is happy with the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    I've had the opposite experience with mine. The finish has been one of the more durable of my bikes. I'm sure there are scuffs under the mud ,but, I haven't noticed any significant marks. My riding has taken me through lots of mud, rocks, and loose gravel too.


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    Thanks, that sounds promising!

    Ordered Friday afternoon, waiting all weekend and all day Monday for a shipping confirmation..... I am feeling like a super anxious kid a few days before Christmas!

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    Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by probezilla View Post
    What frame bag is that and the top tube bag? hat size frame is that? Looks good!
    Jpaks out of Colorado built all my bags so far. Frame size medium.

    Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_o View Post
    If anyone out there has upgraded their handle bars and stems, what did you get and would you recommend it?
    I am loving my jones bars, comfort and reach improved in one step. Contemplated changing the stem to raise things up but haven't done so yet.


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    I have a 40mm hussefelt stem and a 20mm rise 680mm handlebar. Fits me perfect. Everyone's gonna be different though. Are you already maxed out height wise on the headset spacers?

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    I'd like to hear some feedback on the O'beast carbon fork. I'm on the verge of picking one up, but want to know how the bike handles with the new fork.

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    Hi all!

    I'm relatively new to fat bikes, and even newer to the forum. I picked up a Boris X5 a couple months ago, and have it rigged out to my liking now...mostly. So far I've tossed on some ergo grips, swapped out the Tektro brakes & levers with Avid BB7 & SD7, replaced the trigger shifters with GripShifts and junked the crankset & BB for a SRAM X5 set. Now that there's snow on the ground I've installed the Vee 4.7 Snowshoes, which stick like velcro on snow covered beaver ponds!
    Next is the wheels. I was wondering if anyone has had luck putting a set of clown shoes on their Boris? I've heard of a few issues with tire clearance (probezillas issue with the B&L combo, for instance). So, has anybody tried this, or am I going to have to be the guinea pig on this one?

    Thanks!

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    I'm similarly setup on my boris. I love it. Waiting on a sprained wrist to ride again. Hopefully we get some snow in long Island soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I'm similarly setup on my boris. I love it. Waiting on a sprained wrist to ride again. Hopefully we get some snow in long Island soon!
    Send it my way. I'm sure central MN will be covered in snow in a couple of weeks

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    Ordered these and well pleased. Same dimensions on back sweep as Jones bars, but get the hand position a little further back in the cockpit. Really like them for the natural hand position and getting it closer to my body. Originally got a bontrager carbon bar, but kept me too far extended.

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    I looked for a bit and couldn't find what I wanted. Can someone with a 17" please post a side view of the frame/bike? Thanks for any help.

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    Re: Boris report....




    Looks like my link isn't working


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    Boris report....

    So I've finally had the horrid rear derailleur failure.... Where it gets stuck fully extended.... Happening more often.. 3 times in less than 100 yards yesterday so waiting for te upgraded version to be out..... Hoping that fixes the problem.....


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    Ok Boris owners - I need some help and I can't tell from this thread....what is the best and biggest rear tire for snow that will fit on my stock Boris Large? I wan to make sure I am ready for snow when it arrives in DC. I may do tubeless, may not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    So I've finally had the horrid rear derailleur failure.... Where it gets stuck fully extended.... Happening more often.. 3 times in less than 100 yards yesterday so waiting for te upgraded version to be out..... Hoping that fixes the problem.....
    Could you give more details on this please.
    What is the issue? the derailleur gets stuck how, is the spring broken?
    Which version do you have?
    What upgrade are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicetifer View Post
    I just put the Vee H-Billie 4.25's on my X7. They honestly don't look any wider than the V8's did on the bike but I did not do a real measurement. I did weigh them both though. I also put some Q-Tubes Superlight tubes on at the same time. The stock tire/tube combo weighed 4lb 12oz. The new combo weighs 3lb 8oz. So basically I dropped 2.5 pounds and gained a huge amount of grip.
    Hey Juice, just to confirm; this was all done using the stock 80mm rim? No chain rubbing either? My X7 is scheduled for delivery today and dropping that kind of wheel weight is sure appealing.

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    Boris report....

    Derailleur will fully extend and stay in that position. (This is not on big rear/big front sprocket, usually small front sprocket and somewhere in te middle of rear cassette so not where the derailleur would normally be extended) this makes the chain VERY slack and unable to pedal because the chain will skip.
    As to "upgrade" I'm just hoping... Derailleur that came with the x9 is a 2.0 version, there is a 2.1 version coming out that I HOPE will fix the issue...
    Spring isn't broken, usually by wiggling with the derailleur and messing around with it for a few minutes it will magically go back to normal. Frustrating....


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