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    Quote Originally Posted by WrenchP View Post
    Has anyone ordered the x9 in silver? Any pictures?
    Yup, and looks like these will be the first silver X9 pictures online. The silver looks great - it is metallic so there are very small flecks in it that don't really show well in pictures. The bike quality is very good from my first impressions. Welds and paint are solid, other than a very small scuff on the downtube (the silver hides blemishes btw) the bike had no damage upon arrival. The box was fully intact. The plastic "hub" for the fork was broken as mentioned by others, but my fork doesn't seem to have any issues.

    Typical items needed to be adjusted - derailleur position and limits, handlebars, and brakes. BB7s are easy to get adjusted, and you will probably need to reposition the caliper housing to the frame as shown in the included instructions from Avid. Also be sure to check the headset - mine was fairly loose, but still moves freely upon tightening to remove lateral play. The rear derailleur cable was also incorrectly routed to the provided mounts. The rear brake cable housing might be too short because it limits the front wheel turn radius to about 100 degrees left of center, probably not a big deal but it could pull on the brake lever in a crash - not that I would ever crash . Rims seem to be fairly true, but I will probably have them checked at a LBS soon. Also, there were yellow rim strips included in the box.

    The bike rides great. Responsive and easy to control. Shifts great and the brakes have plenty of power even after just a few firm braking episodes. I have no desire to switch to hydros (which I have on my XC bike). I am 5'11" and 32" inseam and this is a Large 19" frame. I was in between sizes, but the Large fits me just fine and my riding position is a little more upright than my XC bike. The medium probably would have fit too, but there would have been a lot of seatpost exposed. There is some self steer with the Mission tires, but it isn't that bad. I was planning to ditch them immediately, but I'll probably keep them on in the warmer months and get something more aggressive for the winter. It looks like H-billies *should* fit. Bottom line, a LBS would sell this bike for $1600+ with a different name on it. At $800, it's a no-brainer. The below pictures are the fully stock bike.

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    I was thinking of getting new tires to for winter but really don't want to throw down a couple hundred on new tires, so I was thinking about using screws instead, anyone ever attempt this? I've done this before with dirt bike tires but they had more tread on them so the screw had more rubber to grab into.
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    They are out of anything in my size (and not a foo foo color) in all but the X5 - I need a 17.

    Questions -
    Anyone with an x9 in size 17 have buyer's remorse and want to sell it?
    Is there are big weight difference between an X5 and X9?

    Any thoughts on buying an X5 and upgrading? It seems to me that the spec on the x5 would work OK in terms of derailers, but not sure if the cranks are heavy and junky or if the brakes are horrible. I would not want to spend money upgrading and end up paying more than the X9 for less of a bike. Really bummed I missed the deal!!!!

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    I have the x5 and have been abusing it pretty good.. And it's still going. I have the sram gxp on another bike and the ones on the x5 don't weigh a noticeable difference. The sram gxp isn't super light either. I got the x5 cause I plan on moving the drivetrain from my fs down to it, so that was a non issue but I haven't had a problem with the x5 drivetrain, I just prefer shimano. Brakes, I have bb7s that just need pads but the novela is adequate for now. They're not terrible just not as adjustable. I didn't want the mission tires anyways so that didn't make a difference. It really depends on what you want and what your plans are. I have parts, and I can get them cheap on ebay if I want something usually.. And I do my own work, so it's not super expensive to upgrade something.

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    While I prefer shimano (no other reason than using it my whole life until recently), the SRAM stuff on my Stumpjumper works fine, so as long as the X5 stuff works fine, no worries there.

    Excuse my ignorance, but what is a GXP?

    I guess the other issue is that the X9 is a smoking deal at $799, which I think is less than when it was first released. If the X5 went down to $499, that would be so much better. Part of this is getting a great bike, another part is really feeling like I got that great deal, even better than the normal bikesdirect.com great deal.

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    Gxp is the crankset on the x9

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    i thought x9 had

    SRAM X5 22T ALLOY BKx36T ALLOY BKx175MM

    i do see that GXP is the bottom bracket...

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    Yeah its the bb that comes with the x5 crankset

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    The price hasnt gone down since I have been looking at them and that's been a few months. I think the x5 is a good deal for someone who wants to throw some parts on, especially when most of the differences are stuff that you'd do differently than the x9. The x5 is a good starting point, but it depends on your plans. I wish it came with the new alivio shifters that triggers on top and the bottom because I don't like the bottom thumb trigger on the x5. I'd rather use index fingers. But it's still a pretty cheap price point to get on a fat bike.

    I did lose the fixing nut on the crank, not a big deal the gxp fits, so I'll have to pick up another one. They're coming from China for 2 bucks, not a deal breaker. I'll be putting some thread lock in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I was thinking of getting new tires to for winter but really don't want to throw down a couple hundred on new tires, so I was thinking about using screws instead, anyone ever attempt this? I've done this before with dirt bike tires but they had more tread on them so the screw had more rubber to grab into.
    I used machine screws with nuts on the exterior, silicone on the interior screw heads on a old bike. I'll be using this setup on the vees and buying something for non snow riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    I used machine screws with nuts on the exterior, silicone on the interior screw heads on a old bike. I'll be using this setup on the vees and buying something for non snow riding.
    Thank you for the reply. I was also thinking of lining the tires with duck tape, thats how I used to do it with my dirt bikes back in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsth View Post

    Questions -
    Anyone with an x9 in size 17 have buyer's remorse and want to sell it?
    Is there are big weight difference between an X5 and X9
    I have a 19 in black, I will sell it for 1000 bucks
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    Hah...I can get a 19 online for 799 still. Need to stretch my stumpy legs!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsth View Post
    They are out of anything in my size (and not a foo foo color) in all but the X5 - I need a 17.

    Questions -
    Anyone with an x9 in size 17 have buyer's remorse and want to sell it?
    Is there are big weight difference between an X5 and X9?

    Any thoughts on buying an X5 and upgrading? It seems to me that the spec on the x5 would work OK in terms of derailers, but not sure if the cranks are heavy and junky or if the brakes are horrible. I would not want to spend money upgrading and end up paying more than the X9 for less of a bike. Really bummed I missed the deal!!!!

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    I don't think the difference in price justifies spending any more than whaT you need to get an x5...and I have an x9
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpunk View Post
    Is the Boris front hub, front disc spacing or rear disc spacing?
    Good question. I got some salsa enabler forks to replace the bent stock forks that were shipped. Save some serious weight, I might add - .7 lbs. But the brakes don't line up so now - the disc is too close, so now I have to do some research. Adapter ? Different wheel? I love the forks tho. If anyone has any insight on this alignment problem feel free to chime in. thx!

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    Is that what the washer that came with the bike is for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Good question. I got some salsa enabler forks to replace the bent stock forks that were shipped. Save some serious weight, I might add - .7 lbs. But the brakes don't line up so now - the disc is too close, so now I have to do some research. Adapter ? Different wheel? I love the forks tho. If anyone has any insight on this alignment problem feel free to chime in. thx!
    Well, it looks like I ordered the wrong fork. The wheels are front hub - zero offset . I think anyhow - as the enabler forks don't quite line up as far as the front brakes go. Not that BD puts any of these details in their descriptions. I need to see if there is some adapters of some sort - Why are rigid fat bike forks so complicated??

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    All bikes are complicated but fat bikes are the newest and things are changing so fast that you have to be careful when you buy something. I didn't even know the wheels and fork were at odd offsets and I've been shopping for both lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Well, it looks like I ordered the wrong fork. The wheels are front hub - zero offset . I think anyhow - as the enabler forks don't quite line up as far as the front brakes go. Not that BD puts any of these details in their descriptions. I need to see if there is some adapters of some sort - Why are rigid fat bike forks so complicated??
    5mm shims between the bracket and frame, to move the caliper inboard, should line it up.


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    Thx for the suggestion, but actually the caliper mount will not fit between the mount on the fork and the rotor - too tight. I did find out that I can grind 5 mm off the caliper mount ( just where it bolts on) and that should do the trick! Kind of a recess in the mount itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Thx for the suggestion, but actually the caliper mount will not fit between the mount on the fork and the rotor - too tight. I did find out that I can grind 5 mm off the caliper mount ( just where it bolts on) and that should do the trick! Kind of a recess in the mount itself.
    I had them reversed then. 5mm shims for a front spaced fork on a rear spaced hub maybe? Your hub is front spaced on a rear spaced fork.


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    Ready to roll

    Finally got the brakes aligned nice on the enabler forks, Slimed surly lite tubes, different ( lighter ) seat, grips. Gained a lb with the slime, but lost it with the other changes, so still 36.4 lbs. Ready for some sand!
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    Hey all,
    any idea what the chainline is on a boris x7 or x9? I have some race face ride cranks coming and don't see any info anywhere. Also checked Khs 3000 site.
    nominal on cranks is 50mm.
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    Re: Boris report....



    Went for a ride today.. Found an abandoned van too



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    update on my Boris X5 in indigo blue.

    day of assembly: Yellow rim strips (just to see how it looks), On One Floaters, SPD pedals, swapped saddle
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    Shimano SLX hydraulic brakes with 203mm XT rotor. only the front came in when my LBS ordered them, now I have both and will probably get the rear on tomorrow.
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    and today i set up the front ghetto tubeless. worked beautifully. added reflective tape in blue so I'll see how it looks tonight. loving this thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Finally got the brakes aligned nice on the enabler forks, Slimed surly lite tubes, different ( lighter ) seat, grips. Gained a lb with the slime, but lost it with the other changes, so still 36.4 lbs. Ready for some sand!
    And what did you end up doing with the mount? grind it down by 5mm where the caliper mounts?

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    Yes,worked great. Beats getting a new fork or hub! Somebody should sell these adaptive caliper mounts! Angle grinder, Dremel tool, file in about an hr

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    Waited too long to buy a Boris! Ended up with an Ocean Blue 17 inch. I ordered it last Thurs, shipped on friday and picked it up will call at ups Tues morning. Rerouted front der cable and need to trim front brake caliper bracket mounting screws, they rub on rotor. Adjusted shifters, tire psi and seat. Went to lbs picked up some pedal washers and presta adapters. Ready to ride tom after I work 3rd shift. Rides much stiffer than my former Dolomite. I may be spraying plastidip this weekend if I can't learn to like the color!

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    You should just get some shorter bolts from ace hardware or something instead of cutting them post a pic of the bike I haven't seen that color I don't think, sounds interesting lol

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    Re: Boris report....

    Here's my Ocean Blue Boris 17Boris report....-uploadfromtaptalk1410933799902.jpgBoris report....-uploadfromtaptalk1410933812562.jpg

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    That's an awesome color reminds me of the old school bmx bikes from the 80s

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    Re: Boris report....

    I was hoping for a color like thisBoris report....-uploadfromtaptalk1410934653857.jpg

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    Lol yeah that didn't happen. But it still looks cool. I'd keep it the way it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop1869 View Post
    Here's my Ocean Blue Boris 17Click image for larger version. 

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    I like the color, reminds me of Bianchi celeste

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    check the rear hub

    My rear hub started making a faint ticking noise. After reading some of the posts, I decided to take it apart and inspect. The hub was a little light on the grease. No problem, packed it really good, reassembled and rode the fatty. Noise cured. If a person can work on a bike, these are the best value out there

    I am ditching the Missions and ordered On-one Floaters for all around riding. Since I'm not hardcore and won't be riding in 3' or more of snow, they should work fine. The price is right at $138 shipped for 2 tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    My rear hub started making a faint ticking noise. After reading some of the posts, I decided to take it apart and inspect. The hub was a little light on the grease. No problem, packed it really good, reassembled and rode the fatty. Noise cured. If a person can work on a bike, these are the best value out there

    I am ditching the Missions and ordered On-one Floaters for all around riding. Since I'm not hardcore and won't be riding in 3' or more of snow, they should work fine. The price is right at $138 shipped for 2 tyres.
    I went with Origin8 Devist8er UL tires. They were $103 shipped. I can't comment in traction yet, but they have far less self steer than expected.

    Did anyone else have a gritty feeling in their hubs? I had to clean, re-grease, and adjust both hubs. They roll smooth as silk now.
    Keep a check on the crank arm bolt on the X7. Mine worked its way loose and I almost lost the crank arm.
    Love the bike even with its flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    I went with Origin8 Devist8er UL tires. They were $103 shipped. I can't comment in traction yet, but they have far less self steer than expected.

    Did anyone else have a gritty feeling in their hubs? I had to clean, re-grease, and adjust both hubs. They roll smooth as silk now.
    Keep a check on the crank arm bolt on the X7. Mine worked its way loose and I almost lost the crank arm.
    Love the bike even with its flaws.
    Where did you get the tires from?
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    Boris report....

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    Where did you get the tires from?
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    perfect fat rack

    great rear rack and perfect fit. As a bonus if you get it with the matching lock in bag you have essentially a fender... all aluminun and solid. I got the one shown, 5 minute install and 8" wide clears evrything.
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    finished

    Boris report....-20140918_115821.jpgBoris report....-20140918_115701.jpgshe's a finished! well other than a drop post or something vanity inspired.

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    BTW forgot to mention, went to 1x10. I bought the race face ride crank arms. Non removable spider, so i left the granny on. I can drop it by hand if i need to.
    34t front with that x9 clutch rear, chain has very little bounce.
    May get the 40 or 42 rear cog if i need lower gearing. But the granny is fine, just looks weird with no front D.

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    Finally got out for a good trail ride today on my new Boris. Absolutely love it. I've already ordered some Vee H-Billie tires and some Q-Tubes, should give me more traction and shed some weight. I'm hoping I can get the weight down to around 30lbs with those and a carbon fork in the future. Anyone changed out their fork yet? Just curious how much the steel fork weighs.




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    Boris report....

    Took my first ride on the Devist8ers and love'em. Excellent traction and they don't pack up with mud. Almost no self steer at 8lbs even on pavement,


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    Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by juicetifer View Post
    Finally got out for a good trail ride today on my new Boris. Absolutely love it. I've already ordered some Vee H-Billie tires and some Q-Tubes, should give me more traction and shed some weight. I'm hoping I can get the weight down to around 30lbs with those and a carbon fork in the future. Anyone changed out their fork yet? Just curious how much the steel fork weighs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BENKD29;[ATTACH=CONFIG
    The foam is placed over the rim strip with the slit tube above it? Rimstrip->Foam->tire tube? Just confirming.
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    Got an X7 thanks to all the positive feedback in these threads, and my husband finally got it built last night. Everything went together well - no problems, and he's not really a bike guy. Derailleurs just need a bit of tuning. I kind of dig the purple. Need to take those reflectors off the wheels, get a new saddle and a shorter stem (I'm 5'5" and what they've got on the small frame is a bit too much reach), and then it'll be ready to go!

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    Bought this mostly to ride in snow, so I'll need to get some new tires before winter, but I can't wait to take it for a spin on the trails. It was a blast just to ride around the neighborhood!

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    I'm 5'8 on a 17" with a 40mm stem and its pretty much perfect. These are long tts

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    yes cut tube placed over the foam strips

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    A couple of Boris questions

    1 - best and largest tire to fit a stock boris for snow use?

    2 when it is time to replace bottom bracket what do I buy?
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    Boris report....

    Don't recall anyone trying anything big on the back yet.....


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    Silver x9 pic

    In its natural habitat in Tucson - Sand
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    Just got my new rim in the mail and took it to the lbs to be trued and get the flat spot out. My other rim was a lot worse. The cassettes come pretty loose so I recommend making sure they are right. This one was barely hand tightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacers View Post
    ... get a new saddle and a shorter stem (I'm 5'5" and what they've got on the small frame is a bit too much reach), and then it'll be ready to go!

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    Bought this mostly to ride in snow, so I'll need to get some new tires before winter, but I can't wait to take it for a spin on the trails. It was a blast just to ride around the neighborhood!
    Check into shorter crank arms too, my x5 small shipped with 175 crank arms. Most bikes have 170 crank arms on their small an XS bikes.
    I'm 5'4 and went with 170mm crank arms on an X5 crankset upgrade and a 60mm raceface turbine stem. Made a huge difference in how well the bike feels like it fits me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donn12 View Post
    A couple of Boris questions

    1 - best and largest tire to fit a stock boris for snow use?

    2 when it is time to replace bottom bracket what do I buy?
    1. you can fit anything you want in front. Surly Bud or vee rubber snowshoe

    it's a little tighter in the rear. i was looking at it the other day and i don't think a 5 inch tire will fit comfortably. i thought i saw somewhere that someone was making a 4.5 rear tire. vee rubber maybe? that would maybe fit.? the other option is a 4.0 inch tire on a 100mm rim. that might fit as well.

    i have a bud on the front and an On-One floater in the rear and don't really have any desire to go wider in the rear. it has plenty of tire the way it is. i ride with a few guys who also have a bigger tire in front and a 4.0 in the rear.

    if you really feel the need for a wider tire in the rear, check out the lurch, or moonlander.

    2. there are a few manufactures making fat bike bottom brackets now. google it. although that seems a long way down the road to worry about now.

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    Anyone know the recommended tube size for ghetto tubeless setups on the stock x7 Boris rims? I've seeing mixed info about shorter wheel sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by homeslice View Post
    Anyone know the recommended tube size for ghetto tubeless setups on the stock x7 Boris rims? I've seeing mixed info about shorter wheel sizes.
    I used Q tubes 24x2.4-2.75. recommended by LBS. they are pretty thick tubes though. next time i do it i will look for a lighter weight tube if it exists in a similar size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaRedlocks View Post
    Check into shorter crank arms too, my x5 small shipped with 175 crank arms. Most bikes have 170 crank arms on their small an XS bikes.
    I'm 5'4 and went with 170mm crank arms on an X5 crankset upgrade and a 60mm raceface turbine stem. Made a huge difference in how well the bike feels like it fits me now.
    Thanks for the suggestion - I didn't even think to look at the crank arms! I'll probably do a 40 or 60 mm stem - I have long legs and crazy short arms, and the 80 that's on there is uncomfortable even riding it around the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homeslice View Post
    Anyone know the recommended tube size for ghetto tubeless setups on the stock x7 Boris rims? I've seeing mixed info about shorter wheel sizes.
    Go with Schrader valve tubes. The sealant seems to act like lock-tite on the nut to open the Presta valve. Not good because the valve core comes out and pressure is lost.

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    Bluto conversion

    For those of you interested in installing a Bluto on your Boris, I emailed Crane Creek and they gave me the part numbers to install the tapered Bluto fork on the Boris.

    Thanks for your question. You will need a ZS44 upper assembly and an EC44/40 lower assembly. Please let me know if you have any other questions.


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    I have a Motobecane Boris X9 fat bike. I want to change the fork to a Rock Shox Bluto which is a tapered fork. My Boris has a straight 1 1/8" fork. The headset is a VP-A42E. Do you have a headset or a bottom external bearing that will allow the tapered Bluto to fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENKD29 View Post
    I used Q tubes 24x2.4-2.75. recommended by LBS. they are pretty thick tubes though. next time i do it i will look for a lighter weight tube if it exists in a similar size.
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    Take a look at Schwalbe 13F; it was mentioned by Espen W,
    R&D Manager of Diamant & Nakamura bikes, in another fatbike forum. They weigh 185 grams a tube. Espen mentioned they had tested them with 4" missions on one of their bikes. I have a pair waiting to go on my Boris Friday after my wheels get back from being trued along with some 120 tpi Devist-8er 2s. I'm also toying with the idea of using Tyvek as rim strips, also mentioned by Espen in a separate forum post... According to him, they have also tested them, they work great, they weigh 15grams per wheel , compared to the 85 grams a surly rim strip weighs. I bought a set of surlys as back ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaRedlocks View Post
    Take a look at Schwalbe 13F; it was mentioned by Espen W,
    R&D Manager of Diamant & Nakamura bikes, in another fatbike forum. They weigh 185 grams a tube. Espen mentioned they had tested them with 4" missions on one of their bikes. I have a pair waiting to go on my Boris Friday after my wheels get back from being trued along with some 120 tpi Devist-8er 2s. I'm also toying with the idea of using Tyvek as rim strips, also mentioned by Espen in a separate forum post... According to him, they have also tested them, they work great, they weigh 15grams per wheel , compared to the 85 grams a surly rim strip weighs. I bought a set of surlys as back ups.
    What size tubes did you buy?Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    For those of you interested in installing a Bluto on your Boris, I emailed Crane Creek and they gave me the part numbers to install the tapered Bluto fork on the Boris.
    This is great info, thanks for that. I don't know if I'll get a Bluto but I might get a carbon fork with a tapered steer tube and these part numbers will be the same for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacers View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion - I didn't even think to look at the crank arms! I'll probably do a 40 or 60 mm stem - I have long legs and crazy short arms, and the 80 that's on there is uncomfortable even riding it around the neighborhood.
    Your welcome... My husband reminded me tonight another factor in fitting Boris to me was the seatpost... the one that came with my X5 was rear offset ... so we upgraded the seatpost to a Raceface Chester that has a zero offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer View Post
    What size tubes did you buy?Thanks!
    I bought: Schwalbe Bicycle Tube - 40mm Schraeder/Auto (26 x 2.10-3.0 - 40mm Schraeder Valve - AV13F) from BikeSomewhere.com for $13.69 a tube plus s/h.
    Tubes haven't arrived yet, supposed to be here Thursday. Got the Devist-8er 2s though and I'm so excited to get them on... The "Big Adventure" tires that came on my X5 are real skill builders (challenging to ride with self steer, skating on hard pack and absolutely no traction in the corners).

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    Anyone upgraded their CroMo fork to a carbon yet?
    The reason I ask is my LBS just offered me a carbon fork for $75 (a Fatboy takeoff). The steerer tube on the carbon is shorter than the CroMo so I lose the spacers ... But I gain back an inch of rise with a handlebar upgrade we're adding next...
    I'm also curious how it changes the feel of the front end.
    Thoughts?
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    I'd assume it will be a few pounds lighter and might soak up more bumps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I'd assume it will be a few pounds lighter and might soak up more bumps?
    That's what I'm hoping for - some softening in the front and way more weight loss ... My X5 started at 36.5 pounds stock and we've not shaved as much as we thought we would with the upgrades so far (X5 crankset, Deity nylon platforms, WTB Volt seat, Deity seat clamp and an X7 rear derailer). I think we've only lost 3/4 of a pound.
    I'm hoping the big weight savings come later this week with the new tubes and tires, the Chester, a Raceface handlebar and stem, and Deity Enoki grips.

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    I think a lot of the weight is in the wheels. That's what I've been reading anyways. I'm at about the same weight as you with replacing handlebars stem seatpost and pedals.

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    This bike is just a blast to ride, and when I go into a LBS and see fat bikes with prices 2 and 3x more it just makes me feel even happier. Yeah its a bit on the heavy side but its a fat bike, its not meant to win any races, and I actually have more fun riding slow and looking for hills and obstacles to ride over.
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    I just put some Vee H-Billie tires on my Boris and what a difference it made. Self-steer is completely gone, I have all the traction I need on the trails, and I feel much more confident leaning it over while carving the corners. I can't compare it to anything other than the crappy Vee 8's that came on it but it's like a new bike. And they are also lighter for sure, gonna weigh one of each to see what the difference is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    Boris X7 with a few upgrades, after my second ride.


    What fenders are those? I'm planning on getting a Boris for my winter commute (probably an X9 but not 100% yet) and would love fenders.

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    For clip on fenders check out the Portland design mud shovels, they easily cover 4 inch plus tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    For clip on fenders check out the Portland design mud shovels, they easily cover 4 inch plus tires
    Thanks. First I have to wait for my insurance check from my bike that was just stolen (State Farm pays replacement cost not actual cost).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smccloud View Post
    What fenders are those? I'm planning on getting a Boris for my winter commute (probably an X9 but not 100% yet) and would love fenders.
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    Big Difference between X7 and X9? Love the orange on the X7
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    I was going to go for the X9, but I'll be ordering an X7 soon instead. Just trying to decide between a 17 & 19 (6' 1/2", 32" inseam).

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    My friend is 6'4 and he rode my 17..He would need an extra long seat post to be comfortable, and with the 40mm stem I have he'd probably have to go out to 80 or 100. It depends on your riding style. I'm 5'8 and ride a 17 just fine. Compare the geo chart of a bike that fits you to the 17 and 19 to give yourself an idea for fit.

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    According the the 27FIVE G1, I need a 19 w/ a standover height of 31". I am thinking the 19 in both would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smccloud View Post
    I was going to go for the X9, but I'll be ordering an X7 soon instead. Just trying to decide between a 17 & 19 (6' 1/2", 32" inseam).
    I'm 5' 8" with a 31" inseam. My M17 X9 fits me perfect.

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    My other friend who bought the g1 is like 5'11 and has the 19 and it fits him fine. I think you'll be fine on that, his seat post is about half a foot out, there's room to go a few inches higher.

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    Hello,
    Im 6'3" 34 inseam. I bought the 21" x7. Allows for a shorter seat post sticking out.
    Rides great and with a short 60mm front stem it fit perfectly. The 21" rides very upright and is comfortable.
    Then i bought a dropper seat post. A 5" dropper at full extension is almost too long.
    In hindsight having purchased a Reverb seat post, i would have taken a 19". The 19" would have also been a little easier to whip around i guess.
    Good luck

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    So a 19" G1 & a 17" X7, only due to the Boris being my winter commuter bike. Had to drop down from the X9 because I'm getting slightly less from insurance than I thought, oh well.

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    6'2 with 34 and will go with 21!!
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    at 6' you might want to go with a 19 and tryout the bike with stock parts before changing components. I'm 5'9 and 31inseam but knuckledragger arms and the 17 feel was slightly small at a 70mm stem change. at a 19 size frame you can shave off length with a smaller stem.
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    Guys, I still have not seen a good answer as to what might fit the Boris X7 as far as tires sizes. I have noticed that the Vee 8 tires that are currently on the bike are pretty wide as compared to Vee Snowshoe 4.7, and taller. Is there a huge difference between a Vee 8, a Vee 4.5, the Vee 4.7, and a Vee 4.8 XL? Do you guys think the Vee Snowshoe 4.8 XL will fir the rear?

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    I think i read somewhere that you'll have some chain rub with the 4.8. The 4.7 really fits like a 4 apparently.

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    Are studded tires really worth it on a fat bike? I will mostly be using mine for commuting during the MN winters.

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    If you're on ice, yes. In the snow, no.

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    There will be both, part of my ride takes me on a bridge over the Mississippi river.

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    What about the 4.5 Vee Snowshoes that come with the Lurch? Are they just bigger on the sidewalls than the Vee 8 4.0 tires, or wider? I am confused of why a Vee Snowshoe 4.7 is the same as a Vee 4.0, and they also a Vee 4.5 that is bigger than the 4.7? Any thoughts on this confusion?

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    on the 85mm rims my vee8 4" have 1/2" clearance each side in the front about the same in the rear. These tires are really 102mm or 4" wide at fattest.
    However the rear has only about 1/4"or 102mm clearance from the chain with gears at large-large.
    That is with 2 spacers up front on the race face race crank.
    So larger is cake up front, but watch the rear for chain issues.

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    I don't know why the 4.7 isn't 4.7 other than they messed up or only with a specific rim size maybe I don't know.. But that's what I've read. If you Google it you can see people measuring them and they look about 4". I don't know about the 4.5 but you can Google it and find out what others have said about it

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    Just ordered my X9 this afternoon and its supposed to ship today still, WooHoo!!!
    my question is what is the largest rim and tire the x9 can handle??

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    I just put the Vee H-Billie 4.25's on my X7. They honestly don't look any wider than the V8's did on the bike but I did not do a real measurement. I did weigh them both though. I also put some Q-Tubes Superlight tubes on at the same time. The stock tire/tube combo weighed 4lb 12oz. The new combo weighs 3lb 8oz. So basically I dropped 2.5 pounds and gained a huge amount of grip.

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    Damn... I am afraid now to even try experimenting with buying bigger tires with the fear that it will hit the chain stay in the rear. I never thought about manufactures misleading the true size of their tires. I am thinking now of putting a Vee H-Billie in the rear, and a Vee Snowshoe XL 4.8 in the front. I wonder how corny it will look, but what the heck. I am trying to find online any noticeable difference between the Vee 8, and the Vee H-Billie. It makes me wonder if the H-Billie is the size of below a 4.0, like the way the Vee 4.7 is the same size as a 4.0.

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    Would someone that has the small 15" frame kindly take a standover height measurement? I'm trying to figure out if this will fit my son in 2nd grade (I know its a stretch, but he's tall and has pretty good bike skills). Since my Lurch arrived, he's talked about nothing else, and it would be awesome to get in snow rides with him.

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    Re: Boris report....


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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Would someone that has the small 15" frame kindly take a standover height measurement? I'm trying to figure out if this will fit my son in 2nd grade (I know its a stretch, but he's tall and has pretty good bike skills). Since my Lurch arrived, he's talked about nothing else, and it would be awesome to get in snow rides with him.
    This may be blasphemy, but Wal-mart now has a child size fat bike or bso (bike shaped object).

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    This may be blasphemy, but Wal-mart now has a child size fat bike or bso (bike shaped object).
    You mean the 20" Mongoose BSO with street tires?

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Would someone that has the small 15" frame kindly take a standover height measurement? I'm trying to figure out if this will fit my son in 2nd grade (I know its a stretch, but he's tall and has pretty good bike skills). Since my Lurch arrived, he's talked about nothing else, and it would be awesome to get in snow rides with him.
    Check out the Framed Mini-sota. Its a 13" fat bike with 24" wheels. $600. Might be a better fitting option with similar specs. www.the-house.com

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    Also, here is the Boris geometry for all sizes as the KHS frame is the same.
    http://khsbicycles.com/bikes/2014-kh...4-season-1000/

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb211 View Post
    Damn... I am afraid now to even try experimenting with buying bigger tires with the fear that it will hit the chain stay in the rear. I never thought about manufactures misleading the true size of their tires. I am thinking now of putting a Vee H-Billie in the rear, and a Vee Snowshoe XL 4.8 in the front. I wonder how corny it will look, but what the heck. I am trying to find online any noticeable difference between the Vee 8, and the Vee H-Billie. It makes me wonder if the H-Billie is the size of below a 4.0, like the way the Vee 4.7 is the same size as a 4.0.
    Here are some pics of the H-BIllie next to the V8 (V8 on right). Keep in mind the V8 is not on a wheel though....



    I wiped the tread off on the H-Billie so you can see what it looks like, might not be much wider but waaay more grip.




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    Why would anyone pay money for a KHS bike that is exactly the same as a X7 or X9 let alone a few minor differences in the components? I could care less about having some name brand stamped to my bike. I am hella happy with the X7. I cannot stop staring at it constantly seeing what other tires I should try to fit on it. The black looks sooo cool on this bike, and I gets tons of compliments at the LBS, wondering how the heck does Bikes Direct make any type of profit after adding up every component on this bike. Anyways, I love the huge tire look, and I have to say that at first, you dream about owning a bike like this with the huge wheels and saying to yourself how cool it would be to own one... then after you finally own one, the tire size grows on you, and then you graduate into wanting bigger tires!!!

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    Juicetifer, do find that the overall diameter is the same as the V8, or taller?

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    Juicetifer, do you find that the diameter of the H-Billie is the same, or bigger in height than the V8?


    Quote Originally Posted by juicetifer View Post
    Here are some pics of the H-BIllie next to the V8 (V8 on right). Keep in mind the V8 is not on a wheel though....



    I wiped the tread off on the H-Billie so you can see what it looks like, might not be much wider but waaay more grip.




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    Standing up next to each other like this its like two inches taller. But if the V8 was mounted I'm not real sure. I'll try to take a few minutes and mount a V8 on the front wheel and stand it up next to the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb211 View Post
    Damn... I am afraid now to even try experimenting with buying bigger tires with the fear that it will hit the chain stay in the rear. I never thought about manufactures misleading the true size of their tires. I am thinking now of putting a Vee H-Billie in the rear, and a Vee Snowshoe XL 4.8 in the front. I wonder how corny it will look, but what the heck. I am trying to find online any noticeable difference between the Vee 8, and the Vee H-Billie. It makes me wonder if the H-Billie is the size of below a 4.0, like the way the Vee 4.7 is the same size as a 4.0.
    It's not really a chainstay issue.. The issue is hitting the chain itself. People with larger rear tires aren't able to use the granny gear.

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    It kills me on how you get all these real high end name branders that tell me that I will get a return back on my bike when I want to sell just because it says Cooker, Surly, Salsa, Specialized, or whatever... but then those are the same ones that sit on Ebay, or Craigslist months after months trying to unload their Rolex bike with not one hit, or interest of anyone of the public wanting to spend nowhere near the asking price on what they think they are going to get!!! They are wanting to unload their $2000+ bike when they realize that they are now broke buying that $2000+ bike, and are even afraid to put a scratch on their bike!!! HAHAHA!!! This actually happened to a friend of mine with his 9-ZERO-7.... I bet you I can sell mine in a day or two if need be.

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    It really depends on the market. But people generally don't have realistic expectations of price on the high end bikes. Plus, anyone spending top dollar on high end bikes doesn't care about money they care about warranty. It's like trying to sell a porsche for cash. It's not easy finding someone with 40g's in their pocket to shell out for a used car. The best you can do is trade it in for way less than its worth, so that someone else can finance it. Same goes for these bikes now too. I know people who finance bicycles. That's crazy to pay interest on a bicycle.

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    Paying interest on a bike is absurd just to fit in the groupie click. I find that they all almost ride the same, with minor differences-- but that can be tweaked at minor costs, and still be way under the $1000 mark. I always wonder though how you have these kids that work at bike shops that own 1, to 4 of these Rolex bikes?? Even with a 30% discount, they will still be paying a ton of money. I guess mommy and daddy help them out financially... wish I had parents like that! Anyways, you are right ou2mame about warranty aspects on buying bikes. I used to sell luxury televisions, and we were in constant competition with big box stores, but you had your lay downs on occasions that would not mind dropping 10,000, to $30,000 on the best audio and video equipment. I would always refer to the non buyers as bottom feeders when I worked there, and cursed any bum that was looking for the cheapest television, and then I became aware that I was one just like them out of work looking for the bargains, and thinking they both do the same thing. I guess it is the same when you work at a bike shop



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    It really depends on the market. But people generally don't have realistic expectations of price on the high end bikes. Plus, anyone spending top dollar on high end bikes doesn't care about money they care about warranty. It's like trying to sell a porsche for cash. It's not easy finding someone with 40g's in their pocket to shell out for a used car. The best you can do is trade it in for way less than its worth, so that someone else can finance it. Same goes for these bikes now too. I know people who finance bicycles. That's crazy to pay interest on a bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb211 View Post
    Juicetifer, do you find that the diameter of the H-Billie is the same, or bigger in height than the V8?
    Ok the pic doesn't really help but here it is.



    The H-B is a little bit wider, I don't have a gauge to measure it but I can see a little difference by eye. And I just used a tape measure to get the over all diameter, the V8 is 28.5 inches and the H-B is 29.

    If size is all that matters (that's what she said) then I'd go with another tire. But I'm totally satisfied with the way it performs. (that's also what she said)

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    Add to the fact that we used to brag about the best warranty in the market, and we doubled the warranty period for free... that would intice shoppers to but $10,000 televisions

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    Well, not much to write home about on diameter and width, but looks like it has better grip than the V8. I wonder why the Lurch on the Bikes Direct website has the Vee 4.5 Snowshoe, and looks sooo much bigger than the V8 of the X7, but then everyone comments that the 4.5, and the 4.7 is closer to a 4.0?



    Quote Originally Posted by juicetifer View Post
    Ok the pic doesn't really help but here it is.



    The H-B is a little bit wider, I don't have a gauge to measure it but I can see a little difference by eye. And I just used a tape measure to get the over all diameter, the V8 is 28.5 inches and the H-B is 29.

    If size is all that matters (that's what she said) then I'd go with another tire. But I'm totally satisfied with the way it performs. (that's also what she said)

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    Name brands and the LBS have their place. Sometimes the paint is better on a frame, the LBS has taken care of any shipping damage or problems, and the buyer doesn't have to know how to set it up. Plus, you get to test ride and find the best fit. That being said, it seems like the name brands are trying to get extra premiums on fat bikes since there isn't a lot to choose from. That is changing fast, and there's a reason BD is selling out fast. My Boris X9 is awesome.

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    Yeah... maybe I just got to get the nonsense out of my head about a bigger tire... the tires are big enough as is... Well, maybe just the front... why not.

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    I wish I worked for bikes direct lol.. I've personally gotten about a dozen people I know to buy their bikes. It's tough to compete with the lbs, but... I'm pretty much the lbs, with unlimited tunes and fixes... Yeah, my friends get the benefits totally. They do give me beer though so it all works out and I don't mind working on bikes at all. It really depends though. Some people are better off with a worse bike from an lbs, just because they don't know anything about bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb211 View Post
    Yeah... maybe I just got to get the nonsense out of my head about a bigger tire... the tires are big enough as is... Well, maybe just the front... why not.
    I did have someone pull up next to me in their car and roll the window down to ask "What do you do with those big ol tires?" today. I guess they look big enough to the average Joe lol.

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    Yeah I've had a few people compliment me on the road. They always ask where to get one and where I ride it. Lol I had one guy ask me where I ride it while I was riding it on the beach. I guess the mere sight of it makes their heads spin

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    Some people just do not want to get their hands a little dirty, or afraid of braking a nail... that's all. Working on bikes is simple. I was amazed on how simple the Bikes Direct Motobecane was to put together. I took apart the crank just to inspect the bracket and all, and found everything well seated, and lubed. Same thing with the hubs, and everything was spot on. I did it because of reading certain posts where people were saying that these things were not properly lubed, bearings were not properly set, etc, etc... should have just listened to my friend where he told me that everything on these bikes are just right, and people were just over exagerating




    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I wish I worked for bikes direct lol.. I've personally gotten about a dozen people I know to buy their bikes. It's tough to compete with the lbs, but... I'm pretty much the lbs, with unlimited tunes and fixes... Yeah, my friends get the benefits totally. They do give me beer though so it all works out and I don't mind working on bikes at all. It really depends though. Some people are better off with a worse bike from an lbs, just because they don't know anything about bikes

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    Mine shipped with a bad freehub but they sent me a new back wheel do it worked out. But this was my first purchase from them and of course it was me with the problem. The 12 I've put together all came great lol

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    Does the Boris X9 have sealed hubs? I can't tell from the BD spec sheet.

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    I never intend to get value back for my moto x7. Luckily I like fat bikes enough to consider this a spare for friends who want to join, If I were to ever buy an upgrade. Year round riding machines like these make great spares.
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    I tell you, it just comes down to the point that after just mingling around with every bike imaginable at all price points and qualities, I just want to ride... and I am highly impressed at the quality of the Motobecane. I was blown away at how nice my X7 was out of the box! I have always wondered about Bikes Direct, and for some reason always took a different direction. Now though, I see extreme potential for these bikes... forget all the nonsense anyone writes about these bikes. These bikes are A+++

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O11 View Post
    Does the Boris X9 have sealed hubs? I can't tell from the BD spec sheet.
    My x5s aren't. Unless they are different hubs I'm going with no.

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    I do not intend to sell mine either, but I bet you that if I did, I will most definitely get close to what I paid guaranteed. I have sold a ton of bikes, and these look very promising of holding their value. I am still just blown away everytime I look at my X7--- I made a great decision buying this bike. I was looking to buying a Specialized fat, but then something hit me to look at bikes direct, and I just fell in love with the look of the X7


    Quote Originally Posted by homeslice View Post
    I never intend to get value back for my moto x7. Luckily I like fat bikes enough to consider this a spare for friends who want to join, If I were to ever buy an upgrade. Year round riding machines like these make great spares.

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    The X9 should be sealed cartridge bearings. I believe they are the Novatech hubs. You can also look at the MTBR X7 spec reviews-- if the X7 are sealed, the X9 should be sealed too



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    My x5s aren't. Unless they are different hubs I'm going with no.

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    Mine are quanta or whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I wish I worked for bikes direct lol.. I've personally gotten about a dozen people I know to buy their bikes. It's tough to compete with the lbs, but... I'm pretty much the lbs, with unlimited tunes and fixes... Yeah, my friends get the benefits totally. They do give me beer though so it all works out and I don't mind working on bikes at all. It really depends though. Some people are better off with a worse bike from an lbs, just because they don't know anything about bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb211 View Post
    I do not intend to sell mine either, but I bet you that if I did, I will most definitely get close to what I paid guaranteed. I have sold a ton of bikes, and these look very promising of holding their value. I am still just blown away everytime I look at my X7--- I made a great decision buying this bike. I was looking to buying a Specialized fat, but then something hit me to look at bikes direct, and I just fell in love with the look of the X7
    So how does it perform on the trail? I'm looking to ride mine 3 to 4 days a week on desert terrain
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    Can anyone tell me the breakdown between the x5 and x7. I see the obvious things like the brakes, derailleurs, tires. I'm pretty sure the frames are the same. I'm mostly curious about the wheels. Are they identical? Different hubs? How about the bottom brackets?

    Also curious if anyone knows about the fantom comp in comparison to the x7. Again the obvious differences are the components but what about the wheels? I know the the fantom has a cartridge bearing bottom bracket.

    Thanks for any input

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    Fat Noob on a Fat Boris x7... I'm new to the Fat Bike game, and haven't biked in ages and need to get my fat sedentary ass in gear(s). So 4 days ago I ordered my Bullseye Monster, due to my not reading the details on the order page, I found out my Monster won't arrive until mid-end of Oct. Soooo... since I had some buyers remorse and liked the Boris, I flipped the switch and ordered the orange x7... same wait time, a few more bucks, but I am pretty stoked. Not sure how I will be able to handle the wait time though... I'm worse than a little kid!

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    Boris report....

    It will be worth it! I had 4 months of waiting for the initial
    Batch of x9's and once I was riding it it was all forgotten!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hankscorpio View Post
    Can anyone tell me the breakdown between the x5 and x7. I see the obvious things like the brakes, derailleurs, tires. I'm pretty sure the frames are the same. I'm mostly curious about the wheels. Are they identical? Different hubs? How about the bottom brackets?
    I can tell you what my Boris X5 came with, a lot of which was not the quality components described on the spec sheet on bikes direct website when I ordered it (for example tires were not Vee Missions as spec'd, but a much heavier, no tread "Big Adventure" made by Hamo Runtong, China weighing in at 1595 grams each!). Bikes direct has a disclaimer they use the parts spec'd if their available otherwise they use something comparable that is available at the time of order. That said, here are the parts I received on my Boris, and their weights.

    Brakes: My X5 Boris came with Tektro Novela (work great once properly bedded in - I've run our hills around the house some 50 runs just to ride the brakes down and bed them ... At first the novellas had NO stopping power. No squeal or sound from them like the bb7s on my old cannondale hardtail.) Don't have a weight on them as their one of the few parts that haven't come off the bike and been replaced.

    Derailleurs: came with:
    Front Derailleur SRAM FD-X7 as spec'd; no actual weight as it hasn't been changed.
    Rear Derailleur SRAM RD-X5 as spec' d; actual weight 298 grams (upgraded to X7).
    Shifters SRAM SL-X5 TRIGGER 18-SP As spec'd; no actual weight

    Tires: came withBig Adventure 26x4.0 tire by Hamo Runtong, China. Wire bead tire. 1595 grams actual.
    Tubes Innova 20340423 26x4.0 100; 370 grams actual each
    Rim strips; came with double strips. Inner grey rim strip 142 grams; outer red rim strip 56 grams; total 198 grams per wheel.
    Rims. An unmarked generic drilled 26"x32H 80mm rim; according to my LBS these are NOT WEINMANN HL-80 WIDTH 80MM W/BIG HOLES as spec'd. We just picked them up from being trued and they are such low quality cheap rims they can't true out the flat spots and slight oval (my LBS only services Mountain bikes, including Fats ... These guys service the Oregon race pros ... They know fat!)
    Hubs are unmarked generic. They are aluminum and free hub is steel (has magnetic attraction)
    Spokes are 14G STEEL STAINLESS W/BRASS NIPPLE as spec'd.
    Skewers front 135mm 58grams; 170mm 63grams actual. Rear came bent.
    Front wheel weight including rotor 1685 grams actual and rear wheel weight without cassette including rotor 1920 grams actual (novella rotors weigh 130 each).
    Needless to say better quality lighter wheels are my next big upgrade investment!

    Bottom bracket: came with LASCO 100x1.37; 105 grams actual.

    Hope that answers your question. This is part of a bigger summary we've been compiling on my Boris I plan to post, hopefully this weekend, after the latest round of upgrades go on.

    I can't speak to the fantom comp, as my only experience has been with the Boris X5.
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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaRedlocks View Post
    I can tell you what my Boris X5 came with, a lot of which was not the quality components described on the spec sheet on bikes direct website when I ordered it (for example tires were not Vee Missions as spec'd, but a much heavier, no tread "Big Adventure" made by Hamo Runtong, China weighing in at 1595 grams each!). Bikes direct has a disclaimer they use the parts spec'd if their available otherwise they use something comparable that is available at the time of order. That said, here are the parts I received on my Boris, and their weights.

    Brakes: My X5 Boris came with Tektro Novela (work great once properly bedded in - I've run our hills around the house some 50 runs just to ride the brakes down and bed them ... At first the novellas had NO stopping power. No squeal or sound from them like the bb7s on my old cannondale hardtail.) Don't have a weight on them as their one of the few parts that haven't come off the bike and been replaced.

    Derailleurs: came with:
    Front Derailleur SRAM FD-X7 as spec'd; no actual weight as it hasn't been changed.
    Rear Derailleur SRAM RD-X5 as spec' d; actual weight 298 grams (upgraded to X7).
    ShiftersSRAM SL-X5 TRIGGER 18-SP As spec'd; no actual weight

    Tires: came withBig Adventure 26x4.0 tire by Hamo Runtong, China. Wire bead tire. 1595 grams actual.
    Tubes Innova 20340423 26x4.0 100; 370 grams actual each
    Rim strips; came with double strips. Inner grey rim strip 142 grams; outer red rim strip 56 grams; total 198 grams per wheel.
    Rims. An unmarked generic drilled 26"x32H 80mm rim; according to my LBS these are NOT WEINMANN HL-80 WIDTH 80MM W/BIG HOLES as spec'd. We just picked them up from being trued and they are such low quality cheap rims they can't true out the flat spots and slight oval (my LBS only services Mountain bikes, including Fats ... These guys service the Oregon race pros ... They know fat!)
    Hubs are unmarked generic. They are aluminum and free hub is steel (has magnetic attraction)
    Spokes are 14G STEEL STAINLESS W/BRASS NIPPLE as spec'd.
    Skewers front 135mm 58grams; 170mm 63grams actual. Rear came bent.
    Front wheel weight including rotor 1685 grams actual and rear wheel weight without cassette including rotor 1920 grams actual (novella rotors weigh 130 each).
    Needless to say better quality lighter wheels are my next big upgrade investment!

    Bottom bracket: came with LASCO 100x1.37; 105 grams actual.

    Hope that answers your question. This is part of a bigger summary we've been compiling on my Boris I plan to post, hopefully this weekend, after the latest round of upgrades go on.

    I can't speak to the fantom comp, as my only experience has been with the Boris X5.
    I think you may have been looking at the X9 specs because the specs you listed sound identical to the X5.

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    I did a screen print of the X5 spec page the day I bought the bike (the Saturday before Labor Day) ... That is what I have been using for comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tequilasunset View Post
    Fat Noob on a Fat Boris x7... I'm new to the Fat Bike game, and haven't biked in ages and need to get my fat sedentary ass in gear(s). So 4 days ago I ordered my Bullseye Monster, due to my not reading the details on the order page, I found out my Monster won't arrive until mid-end of Oct. Soooo... since I had some buyers remorse and liked the Boris, I flipped the switch and ordered the orange x7... same wait time, a few more bucks, but I am pretty stoked. Not sure how I will be able to handle the wait time though... I'm worse than a little kid!

    Well crap... just got an email that they are OVER-SOLD in the orange and I am SOL. I can accept ocean blue if I want one now. *sigh

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    Well that sucks. There's a pic of an ocean blue I think in this thread somewhere.. I liked it, it had a retro look to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandmaRedlocks View Post
    I can tell you what my Boris X5 came with, a lot of which was not the quality components described on the spec sheet on bikes direct website when I ordered it (for example tires were not Vee Missions as spec'd, but a much heavier, no tread "Big Adventure" made by Hamo Runtong, China weighing in at 1595 grams each!). Bikes direct has a disclaimer they use the parts spec'd if their available otherwise they use something comparable that is available at the time of order. That said, here are the parts I received on my Boris, and their weights.

    Brakes: My X5 Boris came with Tektro Novela (work great once properly bedded in - I've run our hills around the house some 50 runs just to ride the brakes down and bed them ... At first the novellas had NO stopping power. No squeal or sound from them like the bb7s on my old cannondale hardtail.) Don't have a weight on them as their one of the few parts that haven't come off the bike and been replaced.

    Derailleurs: came with:
    Front Derailleur SRAM FD-X7 as spec'd; no actual weight as it hasn't been changed.
    Rear Derailleur SRAM RD-X5 as spec' d; actual weight 298 grams (upgraded to X7).
    Shifters SRAM SL-X5 TRIGGER 18-SP As spec'd; no actual weight

    Tires: came withBig Adventure 26x4.0 tire by Hamo Runtong, China. Wire bead tire. 1595 grams actual.
    Tubes Innova 20340423 26x4.0 100; 370 grams actual each
    Rim strips; came with double strips. Inner grey rim strip 142 grams; outer red rim strip 56 grams; total 198 grams per wheel.
    Rims. An unmarked generic drilled 26"x32H 80mm rim; according to my LBS these are NOT WEINMANN HL-80 WIDTH 80MM W/BIG HOLES as spec'd. We just picked them up from being trued and they are such low quality cheap rims they can't true out the flat spots and slight oval (my LBS only services Mountain bikes, including Fats ... These guys service the Oregon race pros ... They know fat!)
    Hubs are unmarked generic. They are aluminum and free hub is steel (has magnetic attraction)
    Spokes are 14G STEEL STAINLESS W/BRASS NIPPLE as spec'd.
    Skewers front 135mm 58grams; 170mm 63grams actual. Rear came bent.
    Front wheel weight including rotor 1685 grams actual and rear wheel weight without cassette including rotor 1920 grams actual (novella rotors weigh 130 each).
    Needless to say better quality lighter wheels are my next big upgrade investment!

    Bottom bracket: came with LASCO 100x1.37; 105 grams actual.

    Hope that answers your question. This is part of a bigger summary we've been compiling on my Boris I plan to post, hopefully this weekend, after the latest round of upgrades go on.

    I can't speak to the fantom comp, as my only experience has been with the Boris X5.
    Looking at the photo the x5 tires clearly aren't the Missions but the Big Adventures and the brakes are Tektros. The specs do describe such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tequilasunset View Post
    Well crap... just got an email that they are OVER-SOLD in the orange and I am SOL. I can accept ocean blue if I want one now. *sigh
    I lost out on the orange x7 last month and went with the matte black. Shy of the dent in the fork. It's been an good bike. The lasco Cranks are POS's though with badly designed loosening bolt problems. Beware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by homeslice View Post
    I lost out on the orange x7 last month and went with the matte black. Shy of the dent in the fork. It's been an good bike. The lasco Cranks are POS's though with badly designed loosening bolt problems. Beware.

    Thanks... I just requested the Fantom FB4 in burnt orange, I don't know enough to spot the diff's except I can tell the frame is diff... and taking your word on the lasco crank

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    That's what I keep wondering...is the fantom a better deal? I know it has a smaller rear wheel. Otherwise it appears to have better cranks and brakes. The x7 obviously has a better derailleur but personally I prefer shimano stuff

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    Get the ocean blue and RIDE!

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    Some cosmetics applied to my x9 Stem cap, says HULK SMASH!!1! if you can't read it. Not shown are green Deity Compound pedals, which are amazing.
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    best stem cap ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma05 View Post
    Some cosmetics applied to my x9 Stem cap, says HULK SMASH!!1! if you can't read it. Not shown are green Deity Compound pedals, which are amazing.
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    Are those the ODI Rogue Grips? How do they feel on the fat tire bike combined with tire cushioning?
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    I dont know about on a fatbike but i can tell you that on my hard tail 29 those grips are amazing. They've actually gotten better as they've worn a bit.

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    Way better than the skinny grips I had on. I had a pair of odi vans on there also, hands down odi rouges work to kill vibrations.

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    My Boris X5 component weights ...
    Awhile back someone asked for the component weights on Boris ... We've upgraded everything on my X5 we're going to, until I save enough for a lighter wheelset and and fork upgrade ... Here are the actual weights of the parts we replaced (if it's not listed, we haven't taken it off the bike yet and weighed it - like frame, fork and front derailer)

    Boris X5
    Actual start weight was 36.75 lbs

    Crankset: LASCO GOX 22/36T ALLOY BKx175MM ALLOY BLACK CRANK W/O CHAIN COVER;
    813 grams

    Bottom Bracket: LASCO 100x1.37; 105 grams

    Pedals: VP-530 ALLOY BLACK W/CPSC REFLECTOR;
    202 grams

    Rear Derailleur : SRAM RD-X5 BLACK CAGE W/O BRACKET;
    298 grams

    Cassette/Freewheel : SRAM PG-950 11-34T-9;
    444 grams

    Skewers: 135mm, 58grams
    170mm, 63grams

    Front wheel including rotor
    1685 grams

    Rear wheel without cassette, including rotor
    1920 grams

    Novella rotor: 130 grams

    Tires: Big Adventure 26x4.0 tire by Hamo Runtong, China. Wire bead.
    1595 grams

    Tubes: Innova 20340423 26x4.0 100;
    370 grams

    Rim strips; double rim strips; Inner grey rim strip 142 grams; outer red rim strip 56 grams;
    198 grams per wheel

    Handlebar: KALLOY W:700MM x9
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    Grip: 130mm, WTB, ALL BLACK, SUPER LIGHT FOAM;
    38 grams each

    Saddle: WTB SPEED V SPORT SE 380 grams

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    Nothing in that list really screams heavy.. So where do you guys think the most lbs cab be shed?

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    Nothing cheap unfortunately, wheels will be the biggest weight savings I'm sure. And if you're good with the rigid fork I bet you can save 2-3 lbs with a carbon fork. That will be on my upgrade list before too long. And I knocked a little over 2 pounds off by changing the tubes and tires. But that cost me a pretty penny too.

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    Yeah I bought the Devist8ers not for weight but cause I got a great deal on them. They definitely aren't the lightest tires ever

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    My Boris X5 upgrade weight loss so far ...
    Here is where I've lost (and in a couple places gained) weight with the upgrades;

    +8 grams w/ X5 crankset w/ 170mm crank arms
    +13 grams w/ X5 bottom bracket
    -52 grams w/ X7 rear derailer
    -64 grams w/ Deity compound pedals
    -24 grams Deity seat clamp
    -129 grams WTB Volt saddle
    -113 grams Raceface Chester seatpost
    -550 grams Origin8 Devist8-er 2 UL 120 tpi tires
    -370 grams Schwalbe 13f tubes
    -224 Surly rim strips
    -20 Raceface turbine 60mm stem
    +83 Raceface handlebar 720mm
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    -1525 grams so far ... 3.36 pounds

    The wheelset I'm currently saving for is a Marge lite with Hope hubs and keeping the Devist8-ers. With that pair I'll save an estimated 1285 grams.
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    Ocean blue boris x7

    Quote Originally Posted by tequilasunset View Post
    Well crap... just got an email that they are OVER-SOLD in the orange and I am SOL. I can accept ocean blue if I want one now. *sigh
    Bikes Direct posted my x7 off here to their website if you want to see it. I didn't want that color either but I Plastidipped the fork matte black, now I like it. The bike is so awesome I would ride it if it was pink! Get a bike to ride you won't regret it!

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    I would have to say that tubes, wheels, and tires are not only the biggest weight savings you can do to any bike, but the most important upgrades period aside from better shifters. The X5, X7, and X0 derailleurs operate basically the same... not much of a difference, but the shifters are hands down a noticeable difference as far as performance. Lets face the facts... if the bike now weighs over 30 pounds, unless you are going to get the bike down to 27 pounds, then you are just really wasting your money... and the only way I see that happening is by replacing the frame all together, or buying a new bike. I choose performance over saving 1 to 3 pounds of weight.. A better shifter makes a huge difference along with lighter wheels and tires for less rotating mass. Also, the weight on these bikes are not bad... if you compare the weight to the dead weight of any Mongoose fat bike, it is a night to day difference!!! Another way to look at this situation and ask yourself this question... Am I going to be racing, and trying to beat a certain time that you are trying to get to from point A to point B??? I highly doubt it. Most people have this unconscious root thought in their minds about someone else lifting up the bike, and commenting how heavy their bike is, but keep in mind that if you lift up a real high end, expensive downhill bike, it weighs a ton!!!! The downhill rider may not think so, and in the back of his mind, he knows he has something better than your ride gauging by how much he paid for that heavy sucker. You have big wheels, so you need a tough frame, and that is what you are going to get... Weight. Enjoy your ride, but don't obsess over dead weight, focus on better performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by tequilasunset View Post
    Well crap... just got an email that they are OVER-SOLD in the orange and I am SOL. I can accept ocean blue if I want one now. *sigh
    Welp... just got an email that they made a mistake and I will still get my Boris burnt orange mid-end of Oct after all... Happy but still have to wait
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    Hey guys -- been lurking around the forums for a few weeks and could use some advice on sizing for the Boris.

    I'm 5'11" with a 32" inseam. Would you say I'm better suited on a 17" or a 19" frame? My biggest fear here is ordering the 17" and it feeling too cramped.

    Anyone have any insight for me? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aClockworkJake View Post
    Hey guys -- been lurking around the forums for a few weeks and could use some advice on sizing for the Boris.

    I'm 5'11" with a 32" inseam. Would you say I'm better suited on a 17" or a 19" frame? My biggest fear here is ordering the 17" and it feeling too cramped.

    Anyone have any insight for me? Thanks in advance.
    I am the same size as you and went with the 19". I had a hard time deciding as I too am in between sizes. I think the large fits me just fine, but I will probably put on a shorter stem. It comes with a 90mm stem, and I'll put on a 60mm to make it about perfect. I'd rather put on a shorter stem than try to stretch it out with a longer stem - I think steering on a fat bike with a long stem would get too sluggish. If your *worst* fear is being too cramped, get the 19" for sure.

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    Make sure to look at the geo chart and compare it to a bike that does fit you. These frames are all pretty long.

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    I was quite surprised how long this bike is. I got a 19" and put some hydraulic brakes that came off a 19" 29er on it. The rear line was just barely long enough to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicetifer View Post
    I was quite surprised how long this bike is. I got a 19" and put some hydraulic brakes that came off a 19" 29er on it. The rear line was just barely long enough to fit.
    When I place it theBoris X7 along side the Lurch, the difference is very noticeable. The Boris the wheelbase is longer by at least 3". Both the top tube and the chainstays are longer too. The Boris is a 21" and the Lurch is a 22".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwkobs View Post
    I am the same size as you and went with the 19". I had a hard time deciding as I too am in between sizes. I think the large fits me just fine, but I will probably put on a shorter stem. It comes with a 90mm stem, and I'll put on a 60mm to make it about perfect. I'd rather put on a shorter stem than try to stretch it out with a longer stem - I think steering on a fat bike with a long stem would get too sluggish. If your *worst* fear is being too cramped, get the 19" for sure.
    Well that definitely helps. I had the same thought on stem length to bring it in a bit.

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    When you guys are talking about inseam are you using accurate measurement or just giving pants size? I'm 5'8 and the ideal pants size for me would be a 29inch inseam (i usually end up in 30's b/c 29 is uncommon)

    I ride a 15.5 inch trek marlin and its a little small for me so I wouldn't mind getting a bigger bike. The effective top tube on the trek is 22.4 and the boris in a 15.5 is 23inch. 17inch shoots up to 23.7. Really not sure if a 1.3inch longer bike is too much or not. I have an 80mm stem on my trek and I think in a fat bike I'd want a much shorter stem. If I did a 40mm stem on a boris in a 17inch im guessing that would help. Even the 17inch boris has a lower stand over clearance then my 15.5 marlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankscorpio View Post
    When you guys are talking about inseam are you using accurate measurement or just giving pants size? I'm 5'8 and the ideal pants size for me would be a 29inch inseam (i usually end up in 30's b/c 29 is uncommon).
    I'm 5'11 and seem to have a longer torso. I usually wear 30's in straight-fit jeans. I would guess because jeans fit a little lower my actual inseam would be about two inches higher at around 32 inches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aClockworkJake View Post
    I'm 5'11 and seem to have a longer torso. I usually wear 30's in straight-fit jeans. I would guess because jeans fit a little lower my actual inseam would be about two inches higher at around 32 inches?
    My inseam is 32" and I am 5'11". Inseam is measured from the highest point of your crotch to the floor while barefoot. In other words, wedge a folder up between your legs and measure from the edge of the folder to the floor. You can't use pants measurements, since they aren't very accurate and everyone wears pants differently. If your inseam is actually 30", standover might be an issue on the 19" Boris.

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    Re: Boris report....

    Some new Fat Bike Porn... Spider seat aka The Brown Recluse and a Large frame bag off Amazon. Not the best quality bag buy it eliminates the backpack.And a waterbottle on the forks.
    That I painted 9zero7 style!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aClockworkJake View Post
    I'm 5'11 and seem to have a longer torso. I usually wear 30's in straight-fit jeans. I would guess because jeans fit a little lower my actual inseam would be about two inches higher at around 32 inches?
    I am 5' 8" with an inseam of 31" measured barefoot, standing against a wall method. My 17m fits me prefect.

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    5'9" 30" inseam with a 17m X9, fits me well.

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    I'm 5'8 and about a 30" and I have a 17" Boris and it fits fine. I have a 40mm stem but could go to a 60mm without a problem.

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    Go to competitivecyclist.com/fitcalculator will help get you set up on seat height, reach,pedal crank length etc.. make sure you pick mt bike not road bike

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    I ordered a black 21" X9 on Friday and today got the tracking. It'll be here Thursday! I think I will have to upgrade to Bud/Nate for the snow. Missions just get terrible reviews for snow. Can't wait.

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    I'm waiting to see if any new studded tires come out when winter hits before I buy snow tires but the Devist8ers work great in mud and sand so they might be ok with the snow. And they're thicker than other tires so I feel like that'll help going lower on pressure without smacking the rims around.

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    I finally received my all season tyres. All I need is time.....

    Boris report....-floater.jpg

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    I'm really debating a pair of 120tpi nates or a BFL and a nate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    I finally received my all season tyres. All I need is time.....

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    Floaters look so business like in black.
    I have to try a pair soon.

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    Boris report....

    If they are back in stock in usa


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    If they are back in stock in usa
    OK, good point, maybe not so soon then

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    OK, good point, maybe not so soon then
    I ordered mine from the UK $137 shipped for both.

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    Boris report....

    Damn, when I ran it shipping was like 60.....
    Guess I better recheck

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    Re: Boris report....

    The Devist8ers have met their match. They did really well considering. Actually I'm not so certain a set of Super Swamper tires wouldn't slip out here.


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    I just purchased a silver X9 in 17in. I'll post pics when it shows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Damn, when I ran it shipping was like 60.....
    Guess I better recheck

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    Tires were $40 each. Too bad they aren't that price in the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    I ordered mine from the UK $137 shipped for both.
    Boris report....-snowshoe.jpg

    I just realized how similar the thread pattern of my Snowshoes is to the Floater. Smaller lugs and a more open. I guess it shouldn't be surprising since they are both made by the same company.

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    Just ordered my X9 today in Silver...to say I am excited is an understatement.

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    Received my X5 today. I was hesitant about the silver as I thought it looked too light on the site. It's actually gun metal and it looks great. My front fork was bent. I was able to sort of straighten it but I submitted a claim and hopefully they will send me a new one. Left shifter was routed wrong as many others have posted but that was an easy fix. Rear wheel is out of true so I'll get that fixed at my lbs tomorrow.


    I have Devist-8er UL tires on order. Going to stay tubed with sealant in them until I can get lighter rims to go tubeless.








    My bike matches my truck now! Haha.

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    great color..definitely looks better than the site pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by brassos View Post
    great color..definitely looks better than the site pictures
    Much better! I had planned on stripping everything off and repainting it because I didn't like how light the silver was on the site. I will happily kick it with the gun metal grey.

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    Yeah that looks pretty good.. Their site colors don't look very much like they do in real life

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    That gun metal looks great!

    I see you are from NJ. Want to put a beach ride together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OddTrickStar View Post
    That gun metal looks great!

    I see you are from NJ. Want to put a beach ride together?
    Sure! Let me get these issues sorted out and I'll be good to go.

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    Are the rim strips with your x5 red or orange? Do you think those big adventure tires are worth anything? Would they be ok for sand or are they really just street tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftofedge View Post
    Sure! Let me get these issues sorted out and I'll be good to go.
    Cool, PM sent.


    I took some pics yesterday.
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    These mission tires are fantastic for sand. They are not so good on slick mud though. Mine are set up split tube with two wraps of sill plate foam over duck tape rim strip and 5oz of Stan's per tire. It makes a very noticeable improvement of ride quality and resistance. The only loss is weight.

    I've been riding this bike daily for 5 weeks now. My smilin' muscles are doing real good. Riding the sandy forest within riding distance of my driveway is all but effortless on a fat bike. There is no way I'll be able stop myself at one fat bike.

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    Is that Wharton st park?

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    the strips are red. I've already ordered replacement tires as there's hardly any tread on these. also it looks like both of my wheels are out of round with the back being worse than the front. I'm hoping bikesdirect comes through with the replacement for both. Instead of replacing the fork it's something I can fix and they're going to knock off price on the bike. Although if the fork fails during trying to unbend it will replace a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankscorpio View Post
    Is that Wharton st park?
    Yes, Wharton it is. Near Medford Atco area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OddTrickStar View Post
    Cool, PM sent.


    I took some pics yesterday.
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    These mission tires are fantastic for sand. They are not so good on slick mud though. Mine are set up split tube with two wraps of sill plate foam over duck tape rim strip and 5oz of Stan's per tire. It makes a very noticeable improvement of ride quality and resistance. The only loss is weight.

    I've been riding this bike daily for 5 weeks now. My smilin' muscles are doing real good. Riding the sandy forest within riding distance of my driveway is all but effortless on a fat bike. There is no way I'll be able stop myself at one fat bike.
    I can already see buying either a bluto fatty or the misses one real soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    The Devist8ers have met their match. They did really well considering. Actually I'm not so certain a set of Super Swamper tires wouldn't slip out here.

    That rear rack looks awesome! I have my Boris X7 ordered, and I really want to throw a rear rack on it. What brand/model is that? Any troubles mounting it?

    How are those tires for every day riding? I'll be on a lot of snowy roads.

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    Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by val421 View Post
    That rear rack looks awesome! I have my Boris X7 ordered, and I really want to throw a rear rack on it. What brand/model is that? Any troubles mounting it?

    How are those tires for every day riding? I'll be on a lot of snowy roads.
    It is an Ibera IB-RA5 rack with IB-RA15 extended arms to fit my 17" bike frame and give the clearance I needed for a fender. My mudshovel fits perfectly under it with plenty of room. I reversed the arms and bent them around to meet the frame. It was really easy.

    The tires Origin8 Devist8er UL. They roll really well on the road and the trail. I'm running them at around 9.5lbs right now. I've had them lower with little to no self steer. I have no idea about snow, but have heard good things.
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    Just ordered a Surly Bud today for the front. Hope it fits!

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