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    I've read most of the new info on the fork but have not seen (or missed) info about a front hub?

    Will RS or SRAM will be offering a hub along with the Bluto fork?

    RS has said the fork will be available mid-May. I'm sure the hub companies will eventually offer the new 150, but what will be available at the time the fork is released for sale?

    Thanks!

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    Borealis and I9 have bluto compatible hub options.

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    And there is an end copy to make the Salasa conversion hubs work also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    And there is an end copy to make the Salasa conversion hubs work also.
    Dishing the wheel required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    Borealis and I9 have bluto compatible hub options.
    Ok cool. Thanks!

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    Sram is releasing/has released their hub as well.

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    Hub comes with the fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Hub comes with the fork.
    Really? That would be great! I had not read that anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Hub comes with the fork.
    You are say something that the rest of the world is not. Are you thinking RS1 that comes with a hub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    You are say something that the rest of the world is not. Are you thinking RS1 that comes with a hub?
    Now I'm not sure.

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    Now I have to ask another stupid question which is linked to my question in the other thread. Will the hub/wheel of a fatboy fit the Bluto?

    sorry guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearhunter View Post
    Now I have to ask another stupid question which is linked to my question in the other thread. Will the hub/wheel of a fatboy fit the Bluto?

    sorry guys
    Nope, maybe with a little creativity though Oh wait that is now frowned upon.

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    The simplest answer is no. The hub on the Fatboy is a QR and is 135mm wide. I haven't looked at the hub to see if it has end caps that might be replaceable to allow for a through axle. The Bluto requires a 150mm wide hub with a through axle.

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    I see Rocky has two different hubs listed for the new Bizzards. And borealis is making their own. I just assumed the 150 hub would be included with the fork but its just a quick release. So what's the real price of the fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Nope, maybe with a little creativity though Oh wait that is now frowned upon.
    I knew there had to be a wrinkle somewhere. Thanks bd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    The simplest answer is no. The hub on the Fatboy is a QR and is 135mm wide. I haven't looked at the hub to see if it has end caps that might be replaceable to allow for a through axle. The Bluto requires a 150mm wide hub with a through axle.
    Ah, I see now thank you.

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    $642 and $711 with lockout lever

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    $642 and $711 with lockout lever
    Plus a hub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Plus a hub?
    Yup I have one on order, going to retrofit my existing hub though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Yup I have one on order, going to retrofit my existing hub though.
    For your Fatboy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    For your Fatboy?

    No I don't have a Fatboy, If I where you and still waiting on the Fatboy and want sus I would take a look at the Rocky Mountain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    No I don't have a Fatboy, If I where you and still waiting on the Fatboy and want sus I would take a look at the Rocky Mountain.
    I did already but it is another bike with a mystery ETA 2799 with the Rock and 1899 for the aluminum fork and lower components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    I did already but it is another bike with a mystery ETA 2799 with the Rock and 1899 for the aluminum fork and lower components.
    Have you tried calling other dealers in your area to see if the have the fatboy in stock? When I decided I wanted a fatboy, I called around and had one the next day. I had to drive an hour to get it, but it was worth it.

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    What about Hope Fatsno

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    I did the same as Bearhunter, I went to Specialized's website and just went down the list calling dealers until I found one. Surprisingly the first five I called all had deposits from people and no bikes, the sixth had a bike on the way with no one's name on it. This was back in February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling In Peace View Post
    What about Hope Fatsno
    No adapters out yet but that's not going to stop me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearhunter View Post
    Have you tried calling other dealers in your area to see if the have the fatboy in stock? When I decided I wanted a fatboy, I called around and had one the next day. I had to drive an hour to get it, but it was worth it.
    Not really checking websites and Facebook. The local shop gave me a good price and the other shop is $120 in fuel away.

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    150mm front hubs:
    For example: Novatec, KT (Kun Teng), Formula, Chosen, Powerway.

    The first two on the list makes pretty much everything out there when it comes to hubs of various names and brands.

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    Just landed today, my Origin8 150mm hub. Looks and feels good, weighs about 1 ounce more than a Hope Fatsnow.


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    Side by side of 135mm and 150mm Borealis front hubs we have blue and black in stock for 150Bluto Hub Options-image.jpg
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    I gotta say there has not been much time between now and when we even heard of a 150mm hub as a possibility in that Chinese direct thread, it seemed no one knew anything then, now hubs popping up already? I'm surprised Rock Shox and everyone else was able to keep this under wraps as well as they did (that thread three days ahead of release notwithstanding).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I'm surprised Rock Shox and everyone else was able to keep this under wraps as well as they did (that thread three days ahead of release notwithstanding).
    There was a post on Fat-Bike that alluded to Rock Shox being very ummm "clear" about fork info not being leaked out before Sea Otter. It said most insiders have known about the fork for 8 months or so. I think the thread on here (which was mysteriously deleted) and the Rocky Mountain Blizzard press release (which was a little early) pissed some people off.

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    So I9 is making an adapter to space the non disc side over as well as Salsa but you would have to dish the wheel 7,5mm and that might not work without replacing spokes. What I don't get is why not extend each side 7.5mm to keep from dishing the wheel and just extend the disc out or caliper in 7.5mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot View Post
    Side by side of 135mm and 150mm Borealis front hubs we have blue and black in stock for 150
    What's the price on the 150s?
    Thanks!

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    Less parts to make/sell, creates a dishless front wheel, at least using an i9 hub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordyB View Post
    Less parts to make/sell, creates a dishless front wheel, at least using an i9 hub?
    Wouldn't it create a dished wheel by 7.5mm? Or maybe I am messed up


    SOC 14: Industry Nine Introduces Ultralite Carbon CX Wheels, 150mm Fat Bike Hub Adapter

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJones View Post
    There was a post on Fat-Bike that alluded to Rock Shox being very ummm "clear" about fork info not being leaked out before Sea Otter. It said most insiders have known about the fork for 8 months or so. I think the thread on here (which was mysteriously deleted) and the Rocky Mountain Blizzard press release (which was a little early) pissed some people off.
    Last year in April, some intern RS guy told me I had to wait a little bit more... They ware working on it....

    That was all the info he gave till I saw the online pictures a year later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    I gotta say there has not been much time between now and when we even heard of a 150mm hub as a possibility in that Chinese direct thread, it seemed no one knew anything then, now hubs popping up already? I'm surprised Rock Shox and everyone else was able to keep this under wraps as well as they did (that thread three days ahead of release notwithstanding).
    You'll find a lot of people knew, including the Scottish contingent, but we were sworn to secrecy.

    A recently introduced bike was designed around that hub so the bike can be upgraded to a suspension fork (especially if you like Ice Cream).

    Hence the apparent lack of interest and comment previously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Wouldn't it create a dished wheel by 7.5mm? Or maybe I am messed up


    SOC 14: Industry Nine Introduces Ultralite Carbon CX Wheels, 150mm Fat Bike Hub Adapter
    The way I read this is that after the 15mm spacer, at 150 mm, their hub flanges are now equal, aka, zero dish.

    "The end cap adds 15mm in width to the hub, and requires a 7.5mm adjustment in dish to the non disc side which could mean that new spokes are needed depending on the build. One of the benefits of the 150mm spacing is that the resultant wheel is build with zero dish for improved strength especially on a fat bike.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordyB View Post
    The way I read this is that after the 15mm spacer, at 150 mm, their hub flanges are now equal, aka, zero dish.

    "The end cap adds 15mm in width to the hub, and requires a 7.5mm adjustment in dish to the non disc side which could mean that new spokes are needed depending on the build. One of the benefits of the 150mm spacing is that the resultant wheel is build with zero dish for improved strength especially on a fat bike.'
    Oh I got ya. I was talking more for retrofitting so people like me don't need to rebuild a wheel to use bluto. I'm hoping to make my wheel so I can switch it between 135/150 without major mods or re dishing of the wheel. Not sure if it will work yet but I'm on a mission

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    Hypothetically speaking. If you have a 142 x 15 front hub and you want to use it on the Bluto wouldn't you just need a 8mm spacer on the drive side or a 4mm spacer on each side. It seems like you could do 4mm on each side and then use the White brothers adaptor as you mentioned before.

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Oh I got ya. I was talking more for retrofitting so people like me don't need to rebuild a wheel to use bluto. I'm hoping to make my wheel so I can switch it between 135/150 without major mods or re dishing of the wheel. Not sure if it will work yet but I'm on a mission
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Hypothetically speaking. If you have a 142 x 15 front hub and you want to use it on the Bluto wouldn't you just need a 8mm spacer on the drive side or a 4mm spacer on each side. It seems like you could do 4mm on each side and then use the White brothers adaptor as you mentioned before.
    Yeah That's kinda what I am doing and I have the WB adapter in hand but I'm having a friend make complete new end caps for my Fatsno. Spacers prolly would've been the easiest but I always seem to go overboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJones View Post
    What's the price on the 150s?
    Thanks!
    $150 for 150mm blue or blackBluto Hub Options-image.jpg
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    That should work nice, easy to swap from suspension to rigid.
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    Have my Fatboy Expert on order (ETA end of July - mid August) and went yesterday and ordered an 80mm Bluto for it, LBS ordered a Hope Fatsno hub for it.
    Now just have to be patient and wait for it to get here.
    Be Patient ?? YEAH RIGHT!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Just landed today, my Origin8 150mm hub. Looks and feels good, weighs about 1 ounce more than a Hope Fatsnow.


    WP_20140416_005 by bdroit, on Flickr
    Any pricing info on that?

    I'm pleased with their 135s.
    This might actually have me seriously considering a Bluto.

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    Just under $80.00 It seems to have very nice bearings.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJay View Post
    Any pricing info on that?

    I'm pleased with their 135s.
    This might actually have me seriously considering a Bluto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Just under $80.00 It seems to have very nice bearings.
    That is quite attractive. Will keep this in mind. My budget generally only allows for buying something like a Bluto on the second hand market. So perhaps next year I'll be keen to swap hubs on my two wheelsets and go squish up front.

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    Why isn't Borealis offering an adapter for the older hubs? Yes there is the new hub available, but there are many of us that already bought Bikes/wheels from Borealis and would like to upgrade to a suspension fork without having to spend $150 on a new hub and then rebuild the wheel. Chances are i would need new spokes for the build as well. I can go to a machine shop and have the adapter made, but that will probably cost as much as the hub for one piece. If Borealis were to have it made by whatever Asian company manufactures their hubs, they could offer it for $15 or $20. This reluctance to offer an adapter seems like a customer service shortcoming by Borealis. If i do get a new hub and rebuild my wheel, I'll make sure it is a hub that will offer flexibility for whatever changes are down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papas66 View Post
    Why isn't Borealis offering an adapter for the older hubs? Yes there is the new hub available, but there are many of us that already bought Bikes/wheels from Borealis and would like to upgrade to a suspension fork without having to spend $150 on a new hub and then rebuild the wheel. Chances are i would need new spokes for the build as well. I can go to a machine shop and have the adapter made, but that will probably cost as much as the hub for one piece. If Borealis were to have it made by whatever Asian company manufactures their hubs, they could offer it for $15 or $20. This reluctance to offer an adapter seems like a customer service shortcoming by Borealis. If i do get a new hub and rebuild my wheel, I'll make sure it is a hub that will offer flexibility for whatever changes are down the road.
    Get an estimate from a machine shop, you might be surprised. I sometimes wonder if a person could just put a 7.5mm spacer on each side and move to caliper over.

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    The machine shop may not be that bad price wise, but it is frustrating that Borealis' response to my email about an adapter was "we are not going to make an adapter because we have a new hub".

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Just under $80.00 It seems to have very nice bearings.
    Where did you find the Origin 8 hub? I'm not seeing it on their website...
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    J&B is the distributor/owner of origin8. Look here for there catalog, it is pretty easy to navigate but just in case, here is the 150mm hub.

    Cheers.

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    Where did you find the Origin 8 hub? I'm not seeing it on their website...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    J&B is the distributor/owner of origin8. Look here for there catalog, it is pretty easy to navigate but just in case, here is the 150mm hub.

    Cheers.
    I don't know if it's just my computer, but nothing shows on the links

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKongKion View Post
    I don't know if it's just my computer, but nothing shows on the links
    Posted elsewhere, but you won't find it on their website, but your LBS can find it if they have an account with them- under Mountain hubs.

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    It must be your browser. I clicked the link in the email I get from MTBR and from your post above and each time it takes me to the site. This screen shot is from the clicking the link in your post.
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    I don't know if it's just my computer, but nothing shows on the links
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    Bluto Hub Options

    Anyone want a brand new 90mm bluto with lockout.

    I currently have the salsa carbon fork which is centered and my plan was to do a simple adapter swap with my i9 hubs however since the bluto needs a 7.5mm offset I can't easily swap forks for summer/ winter riding.

    To make matters worse I would have to send the wheel back to HED for them to offset the wheel every season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    It must be your browser. I clicked the link in the email I get from MTBR and from your post above and each time it takes me to the site. This screen shot is from the clicking the link in your post.
    Click image for larger version. 

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    Im currently using Safari, I'm going to download Firefox and give it a shot.
    It's getting closer to delivery date for my Bluto, and still don't have any solution about the hub :O

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    The J&B website requires a dealer login as well. Is there an online consumer source for these?

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    Some lights at the end of the tunnel - by the looks of things Hope hubs are just around the corner

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    Hope 150mm front hubs have been listed at a few websites for a couple weeks now. Some of them use the same manufacturer's part number so they must have all received the same product list. Unfortunately, none of the websites are listing an availability date. I'm thinking it could be next week or 4 months from now.

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    That is interesting, I am using Safari. You could try typing J&B importers in to a search engine. Do you have a shop you deal with, I would have them get the hub for you. J&B is a wholesaler and does not sell to the public. I supplied the link as a reference, in the US there are several wholesale distributors that allow you to browse there inventory but you need to go to a shop to order the parts.

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    Im currently using Safari, I'm going to download Firefox and give it a shot.
    It's getting closer to delivery date for my Bluto, and still don't have any solution about the hub :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    That is interesting, I am using Safari. You could try typing J&B importers in to a search engine. Do you have a shop you deal with, I would have them get the hub for you. J&B is a wholesaler and does not sell to the public. I supplied the link as a reference, in the US there are several wholesale distributors that allow you to browse there inventory but you need to go to a shop to order the parts.

    Steven
    I think i'll hold until there is an ETA on the Hope hub. Looks like it comes in red, which would match the rest of my bike perfectly

    But if it's going to take too long for Hope to release their hub, i'll definitely try talking to my LBS. Thanks

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    Bluto Hub Options

    The i9 hub will work and it also looks like Borealis sell a 150mm hub.

    Bontrager will also have a hub since the bluto will be stock on the Farley
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    Shoo- did you get your Origin8 hub/ wheel laced up by someone or did you lace it up? I'm trying to find out the spoke length needed for the Origin8 150 front hub to a Rolling Darryl...
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    This may be a stupid question, but is it possible to use spacers (diameter and length) to make a regular 135 mmm QR hub fit in a fork spaced for a 150 m Maxle? If so that would offer the most versatility for bikepacking and using different wheels.
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    Oh sorry I see bdundee has posted on this.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/blu...ck-915365.html
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    A 135mm QR hub could be converted assuming it is also convertible to 135x15mm through-axle. If the hub can't be converted to a 135mm through-axle, it can't be used on the bluto.

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    FWIW- if anyone else out there picks up an Origin8 Hub:

    Center Flange Distance: 48mm
    Flange Diameter: 58mm
    Spoke Hole Diameter: 3mm
    Offset: ZERO

    I am lacing to a Holy Rolling Darryl with an ERD of 542, thus spokes are 264 on both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    FWIW- if anyone else out there picks up an Origin8 Hub:

    Center Flange Distance: 48mm
    Flange Diameter: 58mm
    Spoke Hole Diameter: 3mm
    Offset: ZERO

    I am lacing to a Holy Rolling Darryl with an ERD of 542, thus spokes are 264 on both sides.
    Did you get your fork yet?

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    Hope Pro 2 Evo Fatsno 150mm Front Fat Bike Hub - ETA 7/8/2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrdbomber View Post
    Hope Pro 2 Evo Fatsno 150mm Front Fat Bike Hub - ETA 7/8/2014
    Thanks for the info. Can you share where it came from?

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    Picked my 150mm Hope up today..

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    I want to buy one immediately! Where did you get yours?

    Edit: Interesting. It looks somewhat dished. I would have thought hope would make a dishless front hub at 150mm. To me it looks like the drive side flange is farther outboard than the brake side flange. Does it look that way to anyone else?
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    ...qbp
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    Thanks. My bike shop said hope 150mm front hubs were out of stock at QBP with more expected in on July 8th. But the shop called Hope's US distributor in texas and found the hubs are in stock there. Order placed!

    Edit: Here are the hub dimensions for anyone else looking to pre-order spokes:
    HUB TYPE SPOKE PCD LEFT SIDE SPOKE PCD RIGHT SIDE OFFESET LEFT SIDE OFFSET RIGHT SIDE
    Fatsno FDS 32h 150mm Front 57mm 57mm 45mm 46mm
    It's interesting how the PCD is 1mm larger than all other fatsno and evo2 hubs from hope. (57mm instead of 56mm) The the left and right offsets are nearly identical. I wonder why they are 1mm different. Perhaps the 56mm vs 57mm PCD discrepancy is due to measurement precision rather than the PCD actually physically changing.

    Compared to the 135mm wide fatsno FDS front hub, 7.5mm was added to both the left and right offset. The middle of the of the hub body was stretched but not much else changed. Perhaps nothing else.
    Last edited by dfiler; 06-24-2014 at 08:12 AM.

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    French hubs for Bluto
    150x15 front
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    Weight < 0,9lbs for rear and front :

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    My LBS said they got a Salsa 150mm hub for my Bluto, is this likely? I have not seen mention of it yet, but I am a rookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Guzzi Obrian View Post
    My LBS said they got a Salsa 150mm hub for my Bluto, is this likely? I have not seen mention of it yet, but I am a rookie.
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    If you have a Salsa 3 hub you will be able to buy the end caps soon.
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    Just called my LBS, said Salsa now has a 150mm hub for the Bluto that does not need end caps. Not as slick looking as the other hubs, but if it works well, it should be covered in mud anyway. So I'm thinking I'm good to go. I head down in a little while to setup the suspension for my liking.
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    Is this the salsa hub everyone is talking about?

    Fat Conversion Hub Front 150mm | Parts & Accessories | Salsa Cycles

    Why is it a "conversion" hub?

    What does it mean "150mm OLD spacing using standard front brake disc alignment"? OLD?

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    When considering compatibility of your fork, hub and brake you of course need to match hub spacing to fork spacing (referred to as O.L.D., or Over Locknut Dimension)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickButler View Post
    150mm Hope
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    origin8 front hub on same rim/spokes

    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    FWIW- if anyone else out there picks up an Origin8 Hub:

    Center Flange Distance: 48mm
    Flange Diameter: 58mm
    Spoke Hole Diameter: 3mm
    Offset: ZERO

    I am lacing to a Holy Rolling Darryl with an ERD of 542, thus spokes are 264 on both sides.

    can you fit this Hub on the rim that came on the FatBoy expert without having to get new spokes??

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    I wonder how this will work during a cold winter day. The Fox shox freeze up solid on my Raptor in cold weather.

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    In pittsburgh we don't stop riding for the winter. Even before fatbikes existed, winter riding was normal. I've never seen anyone's suspension freeze. Granted, other places are colder. But all we've ever seen is over damping due to the cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordyB View Post
    The way I read this is that after the 15mm spacer, at 150 mm, their hub flanges are now equal, aka, zero dish.

    "The end cap adds 15mm in width to the hub, and requires a 7.5mm adjustment in dish to the non disc side which could mean that new spokes are needed depending on the build. One of the benefits of the 150mm spacing is that the resultant wheel is build with zero dish for improved strength especially on a fat bike.'

    In converting to 150mm, has anyone tried re-dishing their 135 mm wheel by the required 7.5 mm and is it necessary to buy new spokes? 7.5mm seems like a lot of dish to make up with the existing spoke lengths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matto6 View Post
    Is this the salsa hub everyone is talking about?

    Fat Conversion Hub Front 150mm | Parts & Accessories | Salsa Cycles

    Why is it a "conversion" hub?

    What does it mean "150mm OLD spacing using standard front brake disc alignment"? OLD?
    Means it can be converted from 135x9 to 150x15 using end caps. From Salsa's website: "The Salsa Fat Conversion front hub is convertible from 9 x 135mm quick-release to 15 x 150mm thru-axle by changing the end caps"

    http://salsacycles.com/culture/rockshox_bluto_fit_chart_for_salsa_fatbikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by matto6 View Post
    Is this the salsa hub everyone is talking about?

    Fat Conversion Hub Front 150mm | Parts & Accessories | Salsa Cycles

    Why is it a "conversion" hub?

    What does it mean "150mm OLD spacing using standard front brake disc alignment"? OLD?
    From Salsa's website: "The Salsa Fat Conversion front hub is convertible from 9 x 135mm quick-release to 15 x 150mm thru-axle by changing the end caps"

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    Has anyone used the Hope Fatsno rotor spacer on a non-Hope hub?

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    I have the Hauck end caps on my Salsa hub. Need to move the rotor out to meet the brakes.

    Can't move the caliper in because the White Bros. offset mount doesn't fit on the Lauf fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy again View Post
    Has anyone used the Hope Fatsno rotor spacer on a non-Hope hub?

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    I have the Hauck end caps on my Salsa hub. Need to move the rotor out to meet the brakes.

    Can't move the caliper in because the White Bros. offset mount doesn't fit on the Lauf fork.
    Yes, I used the complete kit (with modifications) to convert my stock Bontrager 135mm hub on my Farley 6 to use with the Bluto.

    The rotor spacer is spot on, brake caliper bolts directly to the fork or adaptor if you go for a larger than 160mm rotor.
    The spacer is about 7 or 8mm thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeaski View Post
    Yes, I used the complete kit (with modifications) to convert my stock Bontrager 135mm hub on my Farley 6 to use with the Bluto.

    The rotor spacer is spot on, brake caliper bolts directly to the fork or adaptor if you go for a larger than 160mm rotor.
    The spacer is about 7 or 8mm thick.
    I am about to order bluto to my farley 6. What kind of modifications you did for spacers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimoJ View Post
    I am about to order bluto to my farley 6. What kind of modifications you did for spacers?
    Hi SimoJ

    Here is a dropbox link to a pdf that should help

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/la9xo47chu...20mod.pdf?dl=0

    As well as the kit you will need a pair of 6903 bearings to replace the original ones.

    HTH

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    Hey man, my bro is trying to do a conversion in his Farley 5 from 135-150mm can you clarify what kit you used? and where you found it? would be a huge help
    thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisureclass View Post
    Hey man, my bro is trying to do a conversion in his Farley 5 from 135-150mm can you clarify what kit you used? and where you found it? would be a huge help
    thx.
    Sorry this is late and I hope that it is of use.

    The dropbox link no longer works, but here is a Google drive link to the same file

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zFE...ew?usp=sharing

    It details the Hope Fatsno part number you need and instructions on how to modify the original hub parts to do the conversion.

    I'm in the UK so guessing that postage would be really expensive but I would think that any Hope dealer in your area would be able to get it for you.
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