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    Best carbon handlebar for dampening vibrations

    I am looking at a carbon handlebar that will help dampen vibration (I use my fattie all year long) and small shatter.

    What are your recommandations? I did try a controltech, but as I find out after I bought it, it was a DH bar, very stiff.

    I am looking at a race face next or a Whisky #9 bar.

    Anything else I should consider?

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    I hear great things about Mt Zoom. good price and excellent weight. Lots of people use them on their race bikes.

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    When I was looking at a Super Comuter 8+ for my wife to keep up with me, I was shown a bar with elsatimers inside it I think. Names escapes me now but it was 500 dollars and was designed to take away all bad bar feel. He said some customers love them. I will post up the name when I find it.

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    Spank Vibrocore bars. Head mechanic at my local shop swears by them, and it's something they don't sell on the floor.

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    I find my carbon bars are the best when wet, they donít feel as cold.
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    I purchased a raceface and like it. It is an improvement over the alloy bar, but I haven't compared it to other carbon bars.

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    After using a Salsa carbon bar, ec90, ec70 - I put the alloy salsa bar back on my bucksaw a year ago, and don't notice any difference.

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    I use the Niner RDO 780 carbon bars on all my bikes (Fat rigid, SS rigid and HT with front shock).

    Works well dampening vibrations and I also use ESI Extra Chunky grips on all bikes.

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    Run rf next bars on both my bikes. Esi chunkys too.


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    Been using Easton bars with foam grips for quite a few years now.
    Biggest difference will be a good suspension fork.

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    I've enjoyed and noticed the difference with a Santa Cruz flat carbon bar on my rigid fatty.
    Certainly less buzz compared to the stock Al bar that came with the bike.
    I think you'll notice the difference with more or less any reputable carbon bar that's not overbuilt for severe downhill duty.

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    Not Thomson. I've used their riser and flat bars and they're stiffer than a very stiff thing. Great for control and stability but harsh even over short distances.

    Otherwise any half-decent carbon bar will feel good. Nukeproof, Renthal, Burgtec all feel stiff and non-twangy but somehow remove trail buzz

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    I had to double check that this was the fat bike thread. Buzz in bars on a fat bike? How high to you pump your tires? To eliminate buzz, dial back pressure a bit. If that does not work, change grips. Carbon is great for reducing cold transfer. I run Answer 20/20 carbon bars and like the sweep. Do I feel buzz? No, but I did not with an alloy Salsa bar or Soma Clarence bars either. Why do I have carbon bars? When I got the carbon bike, I wanted to keep the theme, no other reason or necessity.

    Save the $100+ on a carbon bar and apply it to a suspension fork if you really want to deal with chatter on the trail. I am not sure you will find a bar that will do it.

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    Thank you all for the suggestions.

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    Oh, I thought he was talking about damp wet bars.

    Yeah, I don't think it's really applicable. The buzz you get on a road bike from the road that might be damped by a carbon bar/seatpost is not applicable to mountain bikes.
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    Sometimes I wrap wet towels around to dampen my bars.

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    Next 35mm bar on my ss mt bike. Will be putting one on my new fat that I am about to build. Great bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCheesehead View Post
    I had to double check that this was the fat bike thread. Buzz in bars on a fat bike? How high to you pump your tires? To eliminate buzz, dial back pressure a bit. If that does not work, change grips.

    Save the $100+ on a carbon bar and apply it to a suspension fork if you really want to deal with chatter on the trail. I am not sure you will find a bar that will do it.
    Never had a fatbike but I would think those fat tires with low pressure would dampen vibration at bars 10X more than carbon vs alu bars. I noticed a huge difference in bar vibration when going tubeless with lower pressures years ago on traditional 26 X 2.4" tires.
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    The Niner RDO 31.9mm on my single speed bike is superior at dampening compared to the Race Face Next SL 35mm on my fat bike. But the fat tires and snow basically mute all vibrations anyway.

    I find that 35mm bars are better suited for DH and/or suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yzedf View Post
    Spank Vibrocore bars. Head mechanic at my local shop swears by them, and it's something they don't sell on the floor.
    I put one on my fat bike and if Im honest I cant say i can tell a difference.
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    I haven't tried them but I've heard that SQLabs bars are designed to do exactly this. Thick grips like ESI extra chunky or Wolf Tooth fatpaw grips will also help.

    Don't listen to anyone who makes stupid jokes about using water to dampen your bars. It evaporates too fast. You need olive oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serious View Post
    The Niner RDO 31.9mm on my single speed bike is superior at dampening compared to the Race Face Next SL 35mm on my fat bike. But the fat tires and snow basically mute all vibrations anyway.

    I find that 35mm bars are better suited for DH and/or suspension.
    There's a fairly large crowd that feels that way about 35mm bars pretty much everywhere, a bit too stiff. That's one reason that 31.8 hasn't gone anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I haven't tried them but I've heard that SQLabs bars are designed to do exactly this. Thick grips like ESI extra chunky or Wolf Tooth fatpaw grips will also help.

    Don't listen to anyone who makes stupid jokes about using water to dampen your bars. It evaporates too fast. You need olive oil.
    Not sure I understand the water and olive oil thing. Was the use of the word dampen a poor choice? English is not my primary language, help me out 😁. Anyway I am glad people are awnsering with humour!

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    Iíve got a set of Easton carbon bars one of my bikes and cheap Chinease carbon bars from Amazon on two other bikes and I canít tell the difference. I put them on cause I needed riser bars and that they were lighter weight. I figure they also likely donít get as cold as aluminum bars but I canít say Iíve noticed that either. I donít know that Iíve noticed any difference in feel or vibration reduction either.

    i like wearing padded gloves as they are more comfortable. You might try a set of those first as the difference will be far more noticeable between padded and non padded gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manteufel View Post
    Not sure I understand the water and olive oil thing. Was the use of the word dampen a poor choice? English is not my primary language, help me out 😁. Anyway I am glad people are awnsering with humour!
    Dampen was the proper word. It just happens to have a couple meanings and several took the opportunity to make a joke.

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    It's not your fault that English is an awful language. FFS "Will Will Smith smith Will Smith?" is a legit sentence.

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    If you look it up, dampening and damping are both correct, but most people use damping to refer to what shock absorbers do and dampening to imply wetness. We were giving you a hard time, like when people say they are going to install a pair of forks on their bike. English is screwed up because it doesn't even follow it's own rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    If you look it up, dampening and damping are both correct, but most people use damping to refer to what shock absorbers do and dampening to imply wetness. We were giving you a hard time, like when people say they are going to install a pair of forks on their bike. English is screwed up because it doesn't even follow it's own rules.

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    Well, one is a noun and the other is verb so technically, they cannot be used interchangeably.

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    Unless you're riding gravel, you'll probably get better damping from a good set of grips & gel-pad gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerjt07 View Post
    Well, one is a noun and the other is verb so technically, they cannot be used interchangeably.

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    Damp is also a verb, check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Damp is also a verb, check it out.
    Any verb can be a noun, and some nouns can be verbs. However, the sentence structure will not be able to stay the same to support it. Check it out.

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    There's a moist joke somewhere here

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerjt07 View Post
    Any verb can be a noun, and some nouns can be verbs. However, the sentence structure will not be able to stay the same to support it. Check it out.

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    That's not what you said above. So which of your statements are you saying is correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    That's not what you said above. So which of your statements are you saying is correct?
    You do know what interchangeably means yes? Outlook is doubtful so far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerjt07 View Post
    You do know what interchangeably means yes? Outlook is doubtful so far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
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    If you want to know how to fix vibration in a handlebar, it's something we fixed on old British motorbikes.

    Some of the old parallel twins vibrated excessively as the power outputs rose, not helped by bolted together crankshafts.

    The simple cure was a small piece of lead at each end of the handlebar. Not much was needed - its job was to change the resonant frequency of the bar. Just jam a small piece of lead in place with a cork and it will stay in place. Experiment to find the minimum amount of lead needed.

    The real answer is to find what is causing the vibrations and attack that. On a fatbike, I'd start by reducing tyre pressures.
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    Personally I've found 60xx aluminum to be the softest feeling bars on myself. The carbon bars I have or tried feel much harsher (raceface). Of course the wider the bar the more flex it will have with the added leverage.

    Take a look at these bars : https://fasstmtb.com
    I use their powersports model on my dirt bike, they work.

    Also a 360į elastomer mtb stem is coming out the first of the year, based off his Moto design patent... https://xcgear.com
    His Instagram has prototype pictures

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    LOL, tuckerjt07 - little 8 ball in there
    I use Answer pro taper bars with Oury grips, a great combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SARASR View Post
    LOL, tuckerjt07 - little 8 ball in there
    I use Answer pro taper bars with Oury grips, a great combo.
    Glad someone got it, I thought it was painfully obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmbird4 View Post
    Personally I've found 60xx aluminum to be the softest feeling bars on myself. The carbon bars I have or tried feel much harsher (raceface). Of course the wider the bar the more flex it will have with the added leverage.

    Take a look at these bars : https://fasstmtb.com
    I use their powersports model on my dirt bike, they work.

    Also a 360į elastomer mtb stem is coming out the first of the year, based off his Moto design patent... https://xcgear.com
    His Instagram has prototype pictures

    Just saw these bars for the first time. They seem like a good idea. Haven't ridden them yet -- look forward to trying them.

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    I had an accident about three years ago that did a lot of damage to my neck. I really feel stuff now. Meaning, this is something I've spent a fair amount on money exploring. I've run Race Face, Whisky, Syntace, and Enve. So far, Enve is the best with Syntace a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxlayton View Post
    I had an accident about three years ago that did a lot of damage to my neck. I really feel stuff now. Meaning, this is something I've spent a fair amount on money exploring. I've run Race Face, Whisky, Syntace, and Enve. So far, Enve is the best with Syntace a close second.
    10+ years ago there was a company called LP Composites that made carbon bars and posts. Pretty dramatic difference in compliance from their bars to everything else.

    Doubt they're out there anymore, and if you find 'em they're 25.4 only. But man were they comfy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Just saw these bars for the first time. They seem like a good idea. Haven't ridden them yet -- look forward to trying them.
    I will be purchasing a set from Fasst also for my mtb. I'm going to try to stick with my rigid fork all year on the fatbike; might make for a good combination.

    Xcgear's stem (hammerhead?) also looks like it will be a good product when he releases it for mtb. A chunk of billet for sure but the option to mate about any bar with it would be a plus. His mako360(moto) bar mounts are a really nice product.

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    I won't have any cf on my bike. cf will slice you up nasty if it breaks in a crash...i'll stick to aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FASTFAT View Post
    I won't have any cf on my bike. cf will slice you up nasty if it breaks in a crash...i'll stick to aluminum.
    Thank god that shards of metal won't slice you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Thank god that shards of metal won't slice you up.
    Steel pretty much doesnít fail or shard if it does.

    Aluminum is another matter however...


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    Quote Originally Posted by toadmeister View Post
    Steel pretty much doesnít fail or shard if it does.

    Aluminum is another matter however...


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    Old myths.

    Both metals will pull apart as in "tear" during a massive overload failure. This is a very rare mode of failure for a bike or component. This is noticeable with tension and compression signatures and simply looks like it either folded or was "torn".

    Both metals will form sharp edges during under-stress failures where a flaw, locally weak design, stress riser, corrosion pit or similar creates a crack and propagates with each subsequent cycle. This is why steel pedal axles break and often form sharp hard edges when they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    If you look it up, dampening and damping are both correct, but most people use damping to refer to what shock absorbers do and dampening to imply wetness. We were giving you a hard time, like when people say they are going to install a pair of forks on their bike. English is screwed up because it doesn't even follow it's own rules.
    LOL, you are both wrong and right at the same time!

    Your fireplace has a damper. It decreases the amplitude of the fire/air out the chimney. If a fireplace had a dampener it would spray water on the fire, resulting in the same outcome.

    The word dampener has been misused more often than the correct word for deaden/restrain, so that you find incorrect (or modern) references to it in online dictionaries. You would need an old printed dictionary to find its older(correct) origin. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by k.b. View Post

    The word dampener has been misused more often than the correct word for deaden/restrain, so that you find incorrect (or modern) references to it in online dictionaries. You would need an old printed dictionary to find its older(correct) origin. YMMV
    Words and definitions do change over time, if current dictionaries are saying both are correct, then both are correct. Ultimately, language is used to describe things, so as long as we are understanding the common definition, we are communicating and we are right, which is why the modern dictionaries reflect this.

    At least it's not as bad as pluralizing things! When someone goes left at the pair of forks in the road or asks for a pair of forks at the dinner table, I'll maintain we only have one fork on our bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    At least it's not as bad as pluralizing things! When someone goes left at the pair of forks in the road or asks for a pair of forks at the dinner table, I'll maintain we only have one fork on our bike
    Easy enough. Can you pass me a pair of forks please, salad and dessert? Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerjt07 View Post
    Easy enough. Can you pass me a pair of forks please, salad and dessert? Thank you

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    Ahh, but you were expecting to get two, when have you asked for or referenced a "set of forks" and only gotten one? Therein lies the difference. No one asks for a "forks" at the dinner table or a "pair of forks" to refer to one fork, except for some reason in MTB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Ahh, but you were expecting to get two, when have you asked for or referenced a "set of forks" and only gotten one? Therein lies the difference. No one asks for a "forks" at the dinner table or a "pair of forks" to refer to one fork, except for some reason in MTB.
    Not what you said, now you're just moving the goalposts.

    Just poking fun and taking advantage of the loophole you left. I would love to know where the second fork is going to go though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k.b. View Post
    LOL, you are both wrong and right at the same time!

    Your fireplace has a damper. It decreases the amplitude of the fire/air out the chimney. If a fireplace had a dampener it would spray water on the fire, resulting in the same outcome.
    Speaking of wrong. Amplitude has to do with the maximum amount of oscillation of something. Does this really apply to air in a fireplace chimney?
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    When you come to the fork in the road ... take it.

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