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    Apparently, fat bikes arn't ment for the following...

    Racing, trail riding, bmx, trials and the list goes on. People keep making statements about what is and isn't fat worthy.

    Can people just take their opinion of what fat bikes should and shouldn't be and stick it up their ass?





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    Quote Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    Racing, trail riding, bmx, trials and the list goes on. People keep making statements about what is and isn't fat worthy.

    Can people just take their opinion of what fat bikes should and shouldn't be and stick it up their ass?
    I tend to agree, it certainly seems as though the long time fat riders get their nose outta joint over people making use of them in endless conditions. Guess what it's a bike therefor ridden where one chooses just like MTB are, cross bikes are etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    I tend to agree, it certainly seems as though the long time fat riders get their nose outta joint over people making use of them in endless conditions. Guess what it's a bike therefor ridden where one chooses just like MTB are, cross bikes are etc, etc.
    There are a lot of long time fatbike riders that use them for everything. Careful when you make generalizations. I am also amazed at the recent trend of purpose builders for trail riding that say the original bikes are total dogs on anything but snow and sand. I have a first generation Fatback and I love to ride it summer and winter, twisty or not. I do switch to 47 mm rims in the summer unless a long beach ride is in the offing. I guess I'm not much into pavement on it but that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    There are a lot of long time fatbike riders that use them for everything. Careful when you make generalizations. I am also amazed at the recent trend of purpose builders for trail riding that say the original bikes are total dogs on anything but snow and sand. I have a first generation Fatback and I love to ride it summer and winter, twisty or not. I do switch to 47 mm rims in the summer unless a long beach ride is in the offing. I guess I'm not much into pavement on it but that's about it.
    Yes i'm sure there are and that only promotes them further. There's always exceptions to the norm and i'm sure there's others besides yourself making use of them all around

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    Racing, trail riding, bmx, trials and the list goes on. People keep making statements about what is and isn't fat worthy.

    Can people just take their opinion of what fat bikes should and shouldn't be and stick it up their ass?

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    OK, I stuck it up there. It hurts, but feels kinda good, too.

    Now what?

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    I`m a `long term` fat biker who uses my pugsley for all types of riding, even places it is not better than other bikes in my stable, but i enjoy riding it,

    It puts my nose out of joint when folk say pugsleys steer like oil tankers etc... compared to far more exotic fat bikes..., let the bike do the talking
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    i have been getting some wierd looks (nothing abnormal when riding a fatbike) when out doing daily cardio along busy riverside cycle routes the past 2 weeks, im doing it in total comfort and at the same speed as my hybrid bike. i dont care, i must be nuts!
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    90% rider 10% bike, thats all have to say

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    My motto is any bike anywhere.

    The fatbike is best at that anywhere stuff
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    Cola was ment to be a medicine, now its making half of the world sick,...

    I don't mind that there are people that only use their fatbike on places where a normal bike can't come, but for me the sandman is a "ride anywhere" bike, a real ATB:ALL terrain bike.

    A mountainbike can ride on the road and on the trails, but a roadrace bike is faster on the road, does that mean you can't ride a mountainbike on the road?

    A fatbike is not the fastest roadbike in most cases, and on the trail you have a weight penalty but it is big fun and there are big advantages as well, so why not?
    Downhill is not always faster as short fast turns are hard but the big tires are verry forgiving and you have tons of grip, so why not?
    Dirt: a 20" bmx is more agile, and there are lighter bikes that allow more tricks but still it is fun and if you land wrong there is a big chance of recuperating,...
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    Fatbikes are not allowed on cyclocross races as tires are restricted to 33 mm or so, so that's a bummer, and I doubt that there are UCI approved road racing fatbikes so official road racing wil be out of the question as well.

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    Just say ok put that S eating grin back on your face and pedal off. You know they are just talking themselves out of one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    OK, I stuck it up there. It hurts, but feels kinda good, too.

    Now what?
    lol! That's funny!
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    Mine seems to race just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
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    Fatbikes are not allowed on cyclocross races as tires are restricted to 33 mm or so, so that's a bummer...
    Around my thick neck of the woods, the tire size limit is only "enforced" for Cat 1. At my one and only CX race in 2011, I ran 2.35 inch rubber. Nobody said anything. I did get peanut gallery comments about my MTB. This fall, same race, yeah, I will consider the fatbike just to pissoff the gallery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Again View Post
    Around my thick neck of the woods, the tire size limit is only "enforced" for Cat 1. At my one and only CX race in 2011, I ran 2.35 inch rubber. Nobody said anything. I did get peanut gallery comments about my MTB. This fall, same race, yeah, I will consider the fatbike just to pissoff the gallery.
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    I just finished up our first "Thursday night group ride" for this year. The Mukluk kept pace just fine and I'm certain there were sections of trail that I was actually faster on. It corners great and climbs very good. I will be riding this bike a lot this spring/summer/fall and I am actually considering putting front suspension on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    OK, I stuck it up there. It hurts, but feels kinda good, too.

    Now what?
    Very funny

    Why have another bike, it's obvious a fat bike is the best at everything

    We still need to try to educate potential fat bike owners so hopefully they make the right choice and won't be disappointed with it's performance.

    BTW, I am on my 3rd fat bike and loving it!!

    Edit: When I was new to fat bikes I had this attitude that they can do all and believe me I have done most everything with mine and will continue too do so. Just those few threads of people being very disappointed as well as the number of used fat bikes for sale in the classifieds has me rethinking my approach to blowing smoke up peoples a$$es about fat bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    Racing, trail riding, bmx, trials and the list goes on. People keep making statements about what is and isn't fat worthy.

    Can people just take their opinion of what fat bikes should and shouldn't be and stick it up their ass?






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    Bdundee, for me there is a difference between a bike that is not ment for something and a bike that is the best at everything.
    A bike is always a compromise! what people want to say here is that you CAN do other things with the fatbike, and it is fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by 29Again View Post
    Around my thick neck of the woods, the tire size limit is only "enforced" for Cat 1. At my one and only CX race in 2011, I ran 2.35 inch rubber. Nobody said anything. I did get peanut gallery comments about my MTB. This fall, same race, yeah, I will consider the fatbike just to pissoff the gallery.
    I don't know the rules in CX that well, it would be cool to see a fatbike in a CX from time to time, but if I look at the Belgian CX tracks, the chance of having a better result with a fatbike than a cx racer is rather limited!

    In competition acceleration counts really hard, the first one can shut the door, it 's not because you can ride a stretch on training and the others can't that they'll let you ride it!

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    We just need someone to win the Tour de France on a fatbike. Maybe Surly could sponsor a team.

    The team would just need some really good undetectable performance enhancing "vitamins"...

    I think we'd be deluded to think fatbikes are best at anything except their supremacy on soft surfaces, but my experience is that they are surprisingly good at other things too because we can change the tyres to suit. If you think trail bike for going places rather than race purpose xc/dh bike it's hard to go past a fatbike.

    Weight is the only real holdback, and with rims getting lighter, and tubeless a possibility, then we're looking at wheel weights close to a normal mtb.

    I also think you can get a competent road bike out of a fatbike by using Black Floyds - you won't win your local TT or star in the peleton, but you can put in a respectable days mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    Racing, trail riding, bmx, trials and the list goes on. People keep making statements about what is and isn't fat worthy.

    Can people just take their opinion of what fat bikes should and shouldn't be and stick it up their ass?
    So if I'm understanding you right, you want people to be a little more open minded, but you yourself can't be expected to behave as such?

    P.S. Nice 'tude.

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    mine races just fine, thankyouverymuch.
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    Since we got our Fatbikes I have not been back on the other bikes even once. We ride them on the street every morning, and hit the beach if the tide is low. Which reminds me... it's 7:26am here in the Panhandle of FL. Time to ride!!!!!

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    I commute normally on an 86 Norco "Mountain Bike" which has wire bead 2.35 slicks. The thing weighs almost 1.5 times my Pugsley (which is only a few weeks old to me)

    So far I have commuted on a fatbike, ran single track in town, mudbogged, ran single track out of town, biked through hoodoos and other geological formations, biked in freak snow storms...and wheelied as much as possible.

    My commute usually takes me past the typical array of lycra sporting speed freaks and weight weenies. Although they usually pass me on my Norco (which I have affectionately names "Destructor"), I almost always take them on the hills. I have had no problems keeping up with friends on XC and DH bikes in varying situations. Some drops are a little precarious and ill-advised without suspension, but aside from the death-defying drops which I have no interest in, there has been nothing that my puglsey can't do.

    But as the general theme of this thread seems to echo: A bike is a bike and you do what you want with it. I think that's the coolest part about the fatbike, is that it's spawned a generation of cyclists who ride when/how/what they Want to ride, and not what other people tell them they should do.

    Besides, all my friends think my bike is cooooool.

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    got the cheapest one i could find just to try it out love to dirt jump always manage to bend rims i figure i will see how long a fat wheel would last i didnt care about weight have no problem throughing dirt bike around well anyways i like it failed on some 360's not adjusted to bike yet plus i only land 1 out of 5 with my real bike abuse it beat it up rims have'nt bent yet the bike is solid and with the fat tires if i come up short on 3 rims hold up and i can still turn out of it and ride to the next 8 ft jump the point they seem to be and all around bike for any rider especially amatures who are sick of replaceing rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADDam View Post
    FWIW, I can pedal kick a Mukluk.

    Yup, same for me with my old friend "mr pugsly"....
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    Just last week, I decided to try my commute on my Pugsley, instead of my road bike. I was bewildered because my avg. speed was 15.6, vs. 13.2 on my Straggler, and I spent more time in 44/11. I guess the bigger tires allow me to pedal more consistently over the rough roads, and I don't have to dodge potholes. The Straggler is at least 8 pounds lighter, but the Pugs is faster. Go figure.

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    Awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightcoaster View Post
    Yup, same for me with my old friend "mr pugsly"....
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    Thats garbage. They work for anything. Its a freaking bike.

    I do cardio on pavement every morning. Trails in the weekend. Its pretty much my go to bike now. Havent taken out the road bike since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by efuss View Post
    Just last week, I decided to try my commute on my Pugsley, instead of my road bike. I was bewildered because my avg. speed was 15.6, vs. 13.2 on my Straggler, and I spent more time in 44/11. I guess the bigger tires allow me to pedal more consistently over the rough roads, and I don't have to dodge potholes. The Straggler is at least 8 pounds lighter, but the Pugs is faster. Go figure.
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    BTW Jericho83 spammed up a 3yr old thread without any punctuation or direction. I gave him a red square for his nastiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    BTW Jericho83 spammed up a 3yr old thread



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    ha ha ha... thanks guys! I did not realize it was an old thread.....

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