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    Any chain/tire rub issues with Nate on stock Mukluk 2?

    I've already ordered my Nates and still waiting for my Muk2. I understand the stock bike comes with 3.7 Endos on the rear and changing spacers, removing cogs, etc. can be done when using larger tires like the BFLs. But was just curious if there any chain/tire rub issues using Nates on a stock Mukluk 2? I just prefer not to make any modifications first to get the experience of riding a fat bike, but if I have to, then I will.

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    The Muk2's I've seen have chain rub on the stock endo's. Chances are they'll rub with Nates. You might get lucky though, so try it before you start changing things.
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    I have a stock Muk 2 and a Nate on the back without any chain rub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poco Flaco View Post
    I have a stock Muk 2 and a Nate on the back without any chain rub.
    How long have owned and ridden the Muk2?

    Have you ridden the Muk2 on the granny/easier gears with the Nates?
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    my muk2 BAIRLY rubs in granny gear with the endos when it is on the stand. When riding, the chain definitely rubs. I have been considering removing a cog to eliminate this. My guess is that Nates would definitely rub.

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    My experiences were different. I get no rubbing at all. There's plenty of clearance with the Endos, so I thought I would give the Nates a try. I figured if the Nates rubbed at the granny gears, I would just avoid those gears. On the stand, there's plenty of room with the Nates. Even riding, the only time I might see the chain close enough to the tire is when I go over hard bumps. Maybe if I ride in rougher terrain it would occur more frequent or even touch. I was more worried if the chains constantly rubbed on the tires, but mine looks good.

    Here's a video I made...
    Mukluk 2 with Surly Nates (120 TPI) - YouTube

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G8qSnEQze7o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I'll try to figure a way to mount my Contour so it would be aimed directly at the chain, so I can record what happens during a normal ride.
    Last edited by ecub; 12-19-2011 at 09:36 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    My experiences are differen. I get no rubbing at all. There's plenty of clearance with the Endos, so I though I would give the Nates a try.
    What's your bottom bracket spacer setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0nsumer View Post
    What's your bottom bracket spacer setup?
    Not sure. The bike was already assembled when i got it, with the exception of the front tire, which I mounted. Unfortunately, I'm not that techical regarding bikes, but I pickup on things real easy. I have a camera with a macro lense, so I can get closeup shots, so would that be easy to visual see if I can take a pic of it? If so, what/where would I be looking at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    Not sure. The bike was already assembled when i got it, with the exception of the front tire, which I mounted. Unfortunately, I'm not that techical regarding bikes, but I pickup on things real easy. I have a camera with a macro lense, so I can get closeup shots, so would that be easy to visual see if I can take a pic of it? If so, what/where would I be looking at?
    Oh, you can just count them. There are silver things (cups) that screw into the bottom bracket shell, and the crank spindle goes through them. You can see plastic rings (bottom bracket spacers) between the silver cups and the black frame. Count how many you have on the drive side versus the non-drive side. You'll either have 3 on the drive side and 0 on non-drive side, or 2 on the drive side and 1 on non-drive.

    I suspect that you've got 3:0, since you're not getting any rub. When my Mukluk 2 was set up 3:0 I too had no rub, but I got ticking noises from the BB when pedaling. I switched it to the 2:1 setup and while I get rub I'm no longer getting noise.

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    What's the stock BB on the Mukluk 2?
    Just curious...
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    I just got a Muk 2 and there's about 1/4" clearance in the easy gears....bike is completely stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0nsumer View Post
    I suspect that you've got 3:0, since you're not getting any rub. When my Mukluk 2 was set up 3:0 I too had no rub, but I got ticking noises from the BB when pedaling. I switched it to the 2:1 setup and while I get rub I'm no longer getting noise.
    I do have a 3:0 setup. I haven't heard any ticking noises yet. I'll that in mind, if I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    I just got a Muk 2 and there's about 1/4" clearance in the easy gears....bike is completely stock.
    Besides the Nates, my bike is stock as well. I have about the same clearance.



    FYI, here's a video of a ride around my house, going over landscaping decor...
    Mukluk 2 with Nates (chain view) - YouTube

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cBKezQ3qkcE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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    Is there any difference between the Mukluk 2 & 3 and have you read this

    I've got Nates on my Mukluk 3; the LBS dished the rear wheel slightly and there's no rubbing.


    Mukluk First Ride by james_ferguson, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
    Is there any difference between the Mukluk 2 & 3 and have you read this

    I've got Nates on my Mukluk 3; the LBS dished the rear wheel slightly and there's no rubbing.
    There is a big difference between pre-2011 Muk 3s and the current bikes (different crank) and a big difference between the current Muk 2 and Muk 3 (different cranks). The Muk 2s are not as prone to chain rub as the Muk 3s.

    And I concur with Ecub. Muk 2s work fine with Nates. No rub.

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    How about the original Mukluk? Anyone got Nate on the rear? Any problems?
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    While I haven't seen an 'original' Muk with a Nate, based on looking at several Nates and several original Muks, I'd venture a guess that it'd be totally safe. I'd feel confident enough in that guess to order tires.

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