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    From the XXL Thread:

    Yep, 5.65 on the 103 at 20psi. 5.45 at 3psi. Quickly measured to approx 5.30 at around 10psi on a Sarma 80mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Volks, the 190/197's are noted to fit 4.8" very well. Screw the attic, build up your bike in the living room, whatcha waitin for???


    82's were a good choice for in between. Makes a more comfortable fit for 4.0 and works well with 4.8. I run my tires at 8 PSI max and as low as 1.5 in the snow.
    Thanks on the 82's recommendation!



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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Volks, the 190/197's are noted to fit 4.8" very well. Screw the attic, build up your bike in the living room, whatcha waitin for???


    82's were a good choice for in between. Makes a more comfortable fit for 4.0 and works well with 4.8. I run my tires at 8 PSI max and as low as 1.5 in the snow.
    Definately build in the living room, just want to know if that monster XXL will fit in the back. Prob not considering it's 32" diameter...

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    There's good clearance for 4.8, but 5.05 isn't likely. Someone else stated that 5.05 would make it in the fork but not the rear. RSD Mayor fits the 5.05's on 80's but not 100's.
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    I built up a second hand 170/135 yellow frame as a spare bike and so the family can join in with the fatbike action, the wife loves it and the kids are just, only just big enough to ride it. I scored some green rims for it and bought a Salsa Enabler fork for it, updated it with some nukeproof parts too.

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    I agree with others regarding the 80 vs 100mm rims. 80's give you the ability to run 3.8-4.8"(or larger?) tires, vs 3.8" on 100mm rims is not idea imho.

    If possible I would suggest a Mulefut or DTSwiss wheel over RD, as they setup tubeless much better and are overall better quality. There is nothing wrong with Darryl, but if the choice presents itself I wouldn't choose RD.

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    I've had a 190 and a 197mm frame. Clownshoes and Bud and Lou fit in both of them.
    Snowshoe XXL doesn't fit in any of the current 9Zero7 frames.
    I've ridden my fat bikes on Clownshoes for the first two years. I'm building my black ano 190mm frame as a dedicated beach steed and that one's going to get the Clownshoes and Big Fat Larrys. Turns out, Clownshoes are overkill for trail riding.
    The green 197 bike will get Other Brother Darrys with Bud and 4.8 Knard. Lou for snow.
    Green bike is currently running 29+... Chupacabras on Velocity Duallys.
    These bikes are awesome in the versatility department.
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    Yes the Other Brother Daryls are tubeless compatible, though i can't speak from experience.

    I have been thinking 80mm rims but now considering the 65mm. Will a 4.8 perform well set up tubeless at low pressures on a 65mm rim? I weigh ~150lb.

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    As long as it doesn't unseat from lateral forces, 65's will work peachy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    As long as it doesn't unseat from lateral forces, 65's will work peachy.
    I have been running RD's tubeless on my Pugs Ops with no Issues...
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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    I have been running RD's tubeless on my Pugs Ops with no Issues...
    Same with my 9:Zero:7, I've been fortunate, altho, I'm a 160# beanpole. The benefit is 8 PSI max I'll evuh run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardly_stuntworthy View Post
    I built up a second hand 170/135 yellow frame as a spare bike and so the family can join in with the fatbike action, the wife loves it and the kids are just, only just big enough to ride it. I scored some green rims for it and bought a Salsa Enabler fork for it, updated it with some nukeproof parts too.

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    New 29x3 Wheelset

    Carbon Whiteout with summer wheels:
    - 29x3 Maxxis Chronicles, tubeless
    - Easton Arc 45 rims
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    Turned my winter Carbon Whiteout into my summer Carbon 'Hit It'. This thing shreds on the dirt.
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    Has anyone successfully tried running 27.5. with 4.0 tires on a 907?


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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Has anyone successfully tried running 27.5. with 4.0 tires on a 907?


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    I did not run them but I trial fitted a set on mine. There was a set waiting to be picked up at the shop and I tried the rear one in my 190 QR frame. Fit fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I did not run them but I trial fitted a set on mine. There was a set waiting to be picked up at the shop and I tried the rear one in my 190 QR frame. Fit fine.
    Cool just wondering about the frame geometry if it is built/designed for it? I do see others running 29+ x 3.0....Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Cool just wondering about the frame geometry if it is built/designed for it? I do see others running 29+ x 3.0....Thanks!
    Yep. Mine is 29+ at the moment. Bud on a Clownshoe is actually taller than 29+.
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    The 27.5"x 4" tires fit fine in the 907's. My wife's bike is an XS purple alloy, set up with those tires. Granted, it is on 50mm rims, but has tons of room to spare. The 27.5" tire run a lower profile rubber, so they end up not being any taller than a bud or lou.
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    ... and if we just ... Purple Love

    Oh yeah!! I got it together and now have some 9:Zero:7 purple love coming my way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Oh yeah!! I got it together and now have some 9:Zero:7 purple love coming my way!

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    Whiteout by the seaside.... can't beat it!

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    Whiteout in the hills.... 532 meters higher than the earlier shot!

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    9:zero:7 Love-hempstead-20150502-00500.jpg9:zero:7 Love-oyster-bay-20150503-00502.jpg

    I forgot to post pics of my son's Medium bike. It's 2x10 on Marge Lites and HuskerDus. He loves it.
    He's been bugging me for 29+ wheels. Just got all the parts. Just have to get him some tires.
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    F&SCO and Flying Scotsman - Nice steeds!
    Since there has been some talk of wheel/tire fitment... Have either of you (or anyone else for that matter) ever run CS+Lou for a rear wheel? The reason I ask is that for some reason, I can't on my carbon Whiteout. There is such minimal clearance that in the snow the tire buzzes the chainstays with hard pedaling and cornering on firm snow, and of course is even worse (un-ridable) on dirt. I swapped with a friend for his carbon 90mm with 4.8 Knard and it rubbed as well. I'm bummed since this frame was said to accept 5 inch tires and that was why I got it. My aluminum 907 with 190 QR rear did fine with a CS+Lou. I also had the wheel trued, so that shouldn't be an issue, pressure was a max of 10. Usually 2-4 in the snow.
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    Photo from the weekend riding at Forth Fat.... 80 bikes in South East Scotland. The Island in the background is Treasure Island (proper name is Fidra)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToastR View Post
    Have either of you (or anyone else for that matter) ever run CS+Lou for a rear wheel?
    My Dillinger 5 on Rolling Darryl (107mm) has buzzed the frame before (I have helitaped the inside of the stays and forks for this reason. Your Lou / CS is 119mm.... too tight as you have found out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying_Scotsman View Post
    My Dillinger 5 on Rolling Darryl (107mm) has buzzed the frame before (I have helitaped the inside of the stays and forks for this reason. Your Lou / CS is 119mm.... too tight as you have found out.
    Thanks for sharing your experience. I heli-taped also, and it turns out the knobs buzz through that pretty effortlessly - and through the paint as well... I can see shiny black carbon.

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    Special Delivery!

    Love to see these great bikes! Keep 'em coming...

    Definitely psyched now as I just received a special delivery!
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    I am blown away as to how sweet this frame is. It looks nice in the pics but in person, the details like the hydro forming really shine!


    Pleased w/ the color too. More like a plum color but edging towards purple in the full sun.

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    Congratz on your new friend, Kirkerik! You'll enjoy a fun ride with that rig. The ride quality is quite nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Congratz on your new friend, Kirkerik! You'll enjoy a fun ride with that rig. The ride quality is quite nice.
    Thanks BansheeRune, i have to wonder what's in store for my FS or my CX or even my HT 26'r!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToastR View Post
    Thanks for sharing your experience. I heli-taped also, and it turns out the knobs buzz through that pretty effortlessly - and through the paint as well... I can see shiny black carbon.
    Ouch! I feel your pain!

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    The novelty will mellow with time! Meanwhile, enjoy the bouncy fata$$ tires, cause they are sooo fun to play with. There will be places where you'll wanna let some air out of em and then you'll wanna pump em up again so a good pump is essential. I do the same with my B+ cause it works very well.
    You're in for a pleasant surprise on your first few rides. Gonna be really fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Thanks BansheeRune, i have to wonder what's in store for my FS or my CX or even my HT 26'r!
    My FS 29er sits unridden. I may bust it out for one specific trail but it's days are certainly numbered. I've got my sights set on FS 29+.
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    Getting parts ready for the PPE build...



    Parts for the Purple People Eater are trickling in- Rootbeer RD's w/DT Swiss hubs (not tubeless yet) wheels running Jumbo Jims built by Mike C. in Colorado, 1x NW GX crank from California, gears, chain & shifter from the UK and cheap Shimano hydraulic brakes from China (still on the slow boat?) and of course the purple monster XL frame from Alaska!!!

    This pic shows the Jumbo Jim 4.8 on 82mm root beer RDs next to my stock pugs ops Nate 3.8s on RD...and Mr. Wiggles snout in the bottom left corner... BTW- he does not like the wheels blocking the path to his food bowl...oops!


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    Nice! Looks like you like the RD's! I like the color options on the Surly rims.

    Have you tried them tubeless and if so, how'd it go?

    I have already rcvd a GX crankset but it might be a while before i can get the rims/wheels going. Exploring options... where did you score the wheels? Mike C?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Nice! Looks like you like the RD's! I like the color options on the Surly rims.

    Have you tried them tubeless and if so, how'd it go?

    I have already rcvd a GX crankset but it might be a while before i can get the rims/wheels going. Exploring options... where did you score the wheels? Mike C?
    Thanks!! So you went with the SRAM GX crank, hopefully it fits this frame well...I may try it tonight...

    BTW - I updated my post with the answers to the above, will let you know when I go tubeless my experiences on the process, the green RD in the picture is already tubeless with no issues....

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    Did you try the fit of the GX crankset yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    RD's w/DT Swiss hubs (not tubeless yet)
    I just got done re-tubelessing my RD's, I changed from Dillinger 5's to Jumbo's for the summer. I had wide duct tape on there and it had soaked up a bit of sealant but not lots, the reason I removed was the edges were starting to lift when I took the tyre off.

    I replaced with the Mulefat tubeless tape (78mm x 10m roll) and then a wrap of stans tape on either bead... all pulled drum tight.

    By far the best tubeless set up I have tried to date on fat wheels. Aired up easy, zero stans loss when I filled up and zero leaks after 5 miles spin around the blog to slosh the stans about.

    Tape is a bit pricey but very impressed.

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    Tape is a bit pricey but very impressed.
    I'd rather spend $$ on tape that works instead of something cheaper failing along the way and having to walk out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBG 18T View Post
    I'd rather spend $$ on tape that works instead of something cheaper failing along the way and having to walk out..
    For sure get good tape, but to keep from walking out just take a spare tube.

    It is good to check periodically to make sure it is still a good tube though. Nothing like having a belt and suspenders and neither of them work.
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    I'll have another 907 build to show off soon. This one surprises even me...
    My father just had a 95% blockage cleared from an artery and a stint installed. I went to see him after he got home. I had just built a Fatback for my brother and my dad asked about building him a bike. He's 69!
    He ordered up a Large purple frame on Friday. I guess it'll show up on Monday. I'm very curious to see if he keeps it purple or decides to have it coated.
    I also turned him on to the 65 dollar polished Darryls 907 is selling. I bet if he gets those, he gets the frame done black... Not really sure but I'm excited to see how this plays out.
    He's WAY more likely to ride this bike on the beach or just around his neighborhood. That being said, I'm going to build it up 1x10 with a 28 Wolftooth up front, 11-36 cassette, X7 shifter and derailleur, blah blah...
    Probably Big Fat Larrys. I was thinking about a Surly Open Bar. What do you guys think? My Dad's never going to hammer singletrack on this bike.
    I'll post pics as it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I'll have another 907 build to show off soon. This one surprises even me...
    My father just had a 95% blockage cleared from an artery and a stint installed. I went to see him after he got home. I had just built a Fatback for my brother and my dad asked about building him a bike. He's 69!
    He ordered up a Large purple frame on Friday. I guess it'll show up on Monday. I'm very curious to see if he keeps it purple or decides to have it coated.
    I also turned him on to the 65 dollar polished Darryls 907 is selling. I bet if he gets those, he gets the frame done black... Not really sure but I'm excited to see how this plays out.
    . I was thinking about a Surly Open Bar. What do you guys think? My Dad's never going to hammer singletrack on this bike.
    I'll post pics as it happens.
    Nice! The more Purple 9:Zero:7's the better!!

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    NYrr, You're a good egg, indeed!

    Gitter dun! So, what about Mom's fatty???
    I think he'll really enjoy going out on the fatty and it'll be really good for his heart too.

    After all, my cardiologist highly recommended riding as part of my cardiac rehab.

    Hmm, you need to get your father to sign up for mtbr so he can check out
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    NYrr, You're a good egg, indeed!

    Gitter dun! So, what about Mom's fatty???
    I think he'll really enjoy going out on the fatty and it'll be really good for his heart too.

    After all, my cardiologist highly recommended riding as part of my cardiac rehab.

    Hmm, you need to get your father to sign up for mtbr so he can check out
    "fatbiking and health" and keep us posted on how he's doing and riding, etc.
    I'll get him on.

    Mom and Dad are unfortunately with other people. Mom is in Florida. I just sent her a 700c bike that I restored for her. Thread:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/families-ridi...t-1009891.html

    I'm pretty surprised at Dad's request but I'm totally on board. I'm more excited about this build than many others I've done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I'll have another 907 build to show off soon. This one surprises even me...
    My father just had a 95% blockage cleared from an artery and a stint installed. I went to see him after he got home. I had just built a Fatback for my brother and my dad asked about building him a bike. He's 69!
    He ordered up a Large purple frame on Friday. I guess it'll show up on Monday. I'm very curious to see if he keeps it purple or decides to have it coated.
    I also turned him on to the 65 dollar polished Darryls 907 is selling. I bet if he gets those, he gets the frame done black... Not really sure but I'm excited to see how this plays out.
    He's WAY more likely to ride this bike on the beach or just around his neighborhood. That being said, I'm going to build it up 1x10 with a 28 Wolftooth up front, 11-36 cassette, X7 shifter and derailleur, blah blah...
    Probably Big Fat Larrys. I was thinking about a Surly Open Bar. What do you guys think? My Dad's never going to hammer singletrack on this bike.
    I'll post pics as it happens.
    Glad to hear your Dad's getting a fatty! Definately go w a comfy cockpit. Is the open bar too much? Idk. Maybe have a couple on hand to try... Let him decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Glad to hear your Dad's getting a fatty! Definately go w a comfy cockpit. Is the open bar too much? Idk. Maybe have a couple on hand to try... Let him decide.
    Yeah... I have an Open Bar, a Salsa Bend Bar and a few ODI and other risers he can try.
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    Open bar sounds great heading into the long weekend!!!

    Purple 9:Zero:7 build kit is complete...Speaking of builds all my parts have finally arrived...now I just need to find an unsuspecting builder (me) and about 2 hours of dedicated time...and a little help from my friends at the LBS who I kept in projects over the winter...only for the stem bolt anchor in the fork and the shifter cable cutting tool....hopefully they remember me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Open bar sounds great heading into the long weekend!!!

    Purple 9:Zero:7 build kit is complete...Speaking of builds all my parts have finally arrived...now I just need to find an unsuspecting builder (me) and about 2 hours of dedicated time...and a little help from my friends at the LBS who I kept in projects over the winter...only for the stem bolt anchor in the fork and the shifter cable cutting tool....hopefully they remember me?

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    I'll get the wheels built up and then order the crankset, brakes and shifter and derailleur.
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    VB - I spy TWO bottles of stans, how much sealant are you planning to add.... <200ml each tyre should be fine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying_Scotsman View Post
    VB - I spy TWO bottles of stans, how much sealant are you planning to add.... <200ml each tyre should be fine!
    Hmmm-

    I'll have to check into it but I was thinking of starting with 4oz of Stans in each JJ tire??


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    You're gonna want to do more than 4 oz. Remember, you have to wet the entire inside of all that tire.
    I pour a good sized puddle in my 4.8's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    You're gonna want to do more than 4 oz. Remember, you have to wet the entire inside of all that tire.
    I pour a good sized puddle in my 4.8's.
    Bottle says 4.2oz for upto 4.0 tyres.... I went with 150ml (5.25oz) for my 4.8 JJ's but I also had zero leaks when I mounted them, so I know that total is still sloshing about inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying_Scotsman View Post
    Bottle says 4.2oz for upto 4.0 tyres.... I went with 150ml (5.25oz) for my 4.8 JJ's but I also had zero leaks when I mounted them, so I know that total is still sloshing about inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Looking forward to seeing that Purple bike mounted up!
    Me too!!!


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    Back to the matter in hand.... changed over to the summer tyres! Didn't like them at first, seems I had to run them harder than my dillingers, so after a couple more lbs of pressure they seem to be not bad.

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    I'll have to pick up some summer tires soon. I'm not gonna go ruin the 'biests in the bare rocks.
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    I'll have to pick up some summer tires soon. I'm not gonna go ruin the 'biests in the bare rocks.
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    Woot woot!!!

    Making progress...feeling the purple love!



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    Cut about 1 3/8 inches off the steerer tube...



    Spacer on each side of threaded BB cups...



    Shimano 10spd XT "clutch" RD...



    Also trying to shoehorn in a 180mm rear disc?




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    180 rear disc works fine. That's what I run.
    Those Bronze Darryls look good on the purple frame. I ended up getting my dad Marges in black.

    As summer tires go, I went 29+... Chupacabras on Velocity Duallys.
    Hauled ass down the paved path to Jones Beach this afternoon. Road bike guys didn't like me blowin' past them with all my tire noise and my Hope Pro4 buzzin'.
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    I dunno if I'd wanna try a 180 with my Hope's. It would prolly be like my trials bike, on or off with little modulation. I do prefer a brake with a small modulation window tho'.
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    Woot is right! That is looking sharp Volksbike! Those bronze rims look good w the purple frame. Same w the green bar! I 'm hoping to do some green and blue on mine.

    I have some Wolvhammer's coming from the auction site and i just landed a Dillinger 4 and 5 both studded. Going to pick up a Bud or another D5 to run w the studded D5 and a Nate to pair w the 4. I'll switch over the studs to the 5 from the 4 me thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Woot is right! That is looking sharp Volksbike! Those bronze rims look good w the purple frame. Same w the green bar! I 'm hoping to do some green and blue on mine.

    I have some Wolvhammer's coming from the auction site and i just landed a Dillinger 4 and 5 both studded. Going to pick up a Bud or another D5 to run w the studded D5 and a Nate to pair w the 4. I'll switch over the studs to the 5 from the 4 me thinks.

    Nice!!

    You running the JJ this summer?
    Yes JJ all year for this bike - have some home made tire chains that work ok on the ice. I don't plan to run studded tires this winter...not in the budget...yet!

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    Photo of brake caliper mounting on 9:0:7??

    Does anyone have a shot of the spacers for the 907 aluminum frame mount up? With 180mm rotors please...




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    I'll take a picture now but I won't be able to post it til I get to work in the morning.


    The part you need is: Shimano SM-MA-F180P/P2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Yes JJ all year for this bike - have some home made tire chains that work ok on the ice. I don't plan to run studded tires this winter...not in the budget...yet!

    -VB
    Tire chains, or even cables must still be a good option. Easy on/off is a plus. How'd you make 'em? I got a great deal on both the Dillingers and the wolvhammers. Biding my time and looking for deals so long as i'm ready in the fall.

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    Drivetrain installed easily...nice chain line!!





    Brake caliper mounting, cable length issues...cheap Ebay Shimano BR-M355s came set up European style and the whole setup needs to be reconfigured & bled with a longer rear cable to reach the caliper...




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    I'll take a picture now but I won't be able to post it til I get to work in the morning.


    The part you need is: Shimano SM-MA-F180P/P2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Glad to hear your Dad's getting a fatty! Definately go w a comfy cockpit. Is the open bar too much? Idk. Maybe have a couple on hand to try... Let him decide.
    I laid the Surly Open Bar on top of my Jones Loops last night. They're almost exactly the same. I think they'll be a win. Too bad I have to use adapters to make them fit the stem. Get with the program Surly. No one uses skinny bars any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I laid the Surly Open Bar on top of my Jones Loops last night. They're almost exactly the same. I think they'll be a win. Too bad I have to use adapters to make them fit the stem. Get with the program Surly. No one uses skinny bars any more.
    I read somewhere (on the Jones or Surly sites) that Surly licensed the patented Jones bar for their bikes. Hmm maybe that is how they got the open bar?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EBG 18T View Post
    I had really good luck just removing the line and swapping them on a set of used SLX's that I installed that were setup moto style. Didn't even have to re-bleed.
    That's cool, sounds like you got lucky!

    In my case the moto rear line needs to be cut down and used as the front lefty lever and a new, longer line installed and bled in the rear on the right lever. The net is that the LBS labor and parts will cost more than the brakes shipped from China!! but I'm hoping to get them setup and some adapter brackets by the weekend...


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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Drivetrain installed easily...nice chain line!!



    How does that DT rear sound? Not that it's a big deal but i have been rolling my old XT's on my hardtail lately and they are nice and quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    How does that DT rear sound? Not that it's a big deal but i have been rolling my old XT's on my hardtail lately and they are nice and quiet.
    DT hub is super quiet so far...MikeC recommended it for low cost & high strength...but I might need to find a louda clicka!! I'm running Northpaw 135/170mm hubs in my other fatty and I really like them and the sound they make...quieter than a Hope but still louder than the DTs.

    Final build update: Just installed the brakes --> Measure twice cut once...no more moto & they came out mint! Last things are the grips, tubeless and some time to ride and fine tune.....just in time for the weekend!!




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    How sweet it is!

    I just got off the trail and had a blast. Love it.

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    How ya liking that new bike Volksbike? Sure looks nice with the bronze rims.
    Thanks guys -->> It's finally done & I love it. Spent some time setting up the JJ's tubeless and it was a learning experience. Not too bad as the compressor helps. for the record used most of one 16 oz bottle of Stans...

    So the "Prince Purple People Eater" is officially rolling on root beer float Darrlys!!! Only took it for a shakedown cruise in the rain so far but I can tell it is a big upgrade from my GBM. Weighed in at 30.6 lbs -->> not too bad considering a few low end components were used.

    This is a big bike with a long wheelbase and it fits me very well. Looking forward to getting out on the trails.

    Thanks much for everyone's help and input during the build!!!

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    Told ya you'd use more than 4 oz oz per tire.

    So... Was it the same brake adapter front and rear?
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    Told ya you'd use more than 4 oz oz per tire.

    So... Was it the same brake adapter front and rear?
    Yes. Same part for 160 to 180mm adapter worked in front as well!!

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    Cool. Makes sense that they'd be the same.

    Bike looks great. I built the rear wheel for my dad's purple 907 last night. I'll be posting pics of the build soon.
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    Nice machine, but you loose a point for mounting the tyres the wrong way up compared to your rim stickers!

    Hmmmm...I see that...now...with the Jumbo Jim lettering....DOH! In the heat of the battle the Stans was a flowin' everywhere -->>I was happy to get the tires rotation directionally correct and setup tubeless...I mounted the M in JIM at both valve stems like I always do!!


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    They guy rides a purple bike....what do you expect?

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    Purple is the new black!!!





    Thanks guys loving the 9:Zero:7 so far - it feels more spread out in fitment since I'm 6'7" with the longer wheelbase and wide bars. Hydraulic brakes are a nice upgrade. Lighter weight helps too and so far my 32 NW - 36 gears are more than adequate for the local hills!!

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    volksbike, it's good to see your bike in fatbike habitat enjoying the day! How ya like the 9:Zero:7 so far? Sure looks better than the images on the fatbikes.com site.
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    Take that seat post clamp that they sent you with that frame and toss it in a field. Replace it with a Salsa Lip Lock. The factory supplied ones slip. Even my light weight 175 pound friends make them slip.
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    volksbike...Dem wheelz! I love how nice the bronze wheels look on the purple mountain eater.
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    Good stuff, volksbike! You did a nice build on that rig! Pix when you get out for a proper shakedown...
    Then we will hear of the excitement of the new fat!
    Have it dialed in pretty good after 3-4 shakedown rides this week, no major issues -> tubeless working well, brakes really quiet until I got the pads wet when rinsing off the mud, then they got loud & squeaky! Oh and I replaced the Shimano 10 spd chain pin with a SRAM Power Lock reusable master link after the pin failed due to improper install on my first ride. I hate those Shimano non-reusable pins anyway, have had too many issues with them in the past and they are not reusable.

    I'm loving the purple people eater so far!



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    The bike looks great Volksbike! Glad to see it is working well for ya! Breaking in the new pup family member along side the new Purple 907, I see.

    I still carry a small chaintool to this day because of those shimano chains. We've broken so many of them it just became part of our necessary kit. Don't bother w the special pins, the shimano's are much more reliable using the regular links and pins IME. YMMV

    Of course, now i run Sram chains w little to no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Take that seat post clamp that they sent you with that frame and toss it in a field. Replace it with a Salsa Lip Lock. The factory supplied ones slip. Even my light weight 175 pound friends make them slip.
    Good to know, i was reluctant to throw down for a QR clamp given the frame came w one but now i have a second reason!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBG 18T View Post
    I stopped using Shimano chains once I went 10/11spd on the current bikes. I've been using the KMC X11SL & X10SL with great results. IMHO they shift as good as Shimano and have an easy quick link.
    Hmmm-

    I'm going to order a KMC 10.93 10 speed to as a spare, I have a new KMC Z51 with a master link, but that is one is a 6,7, 8 speed chain...Apparently all the spacing on Shimano, SRAM and Campy 10 speed is the same and all can run KMC chains? Since I have all 3 types of 10spd drivetrains, the KMC spare makes sense for me. Not saying I would run a KMC on my Campy, but apparently it is supposed to work...Also does KMC make the chains for Shimano?

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    Volksbike - I am running KMC chains on an SRAM X9 (10sp), Shimano XTR (10sp) & XTR (11sp), Shimano Dura Ace (10sp) and my Campy Chorus (10sp) with no issues.

    I find that the KMC chains wear better for me than other chains I have used.

    No idea who actually makes Shimano, SRAM or Campy chains. Curious now though..
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    Looks great! How does she handle?

    I look forward to getting mine rolling. I was thinking of trying the KMC chain myself. We'll see depending on what cassette and shifters i go with. I have a couple new sram 9spd chains.

    Are all of you running flat bars on this frame/geo? I'm looking to pick up some bars...
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    The purple 9:ZERO:7 absolutely rips!!! Running 810mm wide, "Loaded" green and flat bars...From OHIO The bike handles very well on the trailZ. Plenty of gears to climb @ 30T NW and 11-36 10 spd. Snow may change that??? 4.8 JJ's roll right through the through/over the rock gardens.

    I'm getting used to climbing standing up, but no wheel spin. Worked great on a long 1/2 Mile decent no fade in the Shimano 180mm brakes. Overall almost flawless so far! Except for the grips-> could use are stripping and slipping recommendation on those as the Serafas from REI a slipping! Orays??? No rock rash on the root beers yet... but first scratch and some mud....

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    I'm building new wheels for the fattie, and like an idiot, I accidentally ordered two DTSwiss front hubs rather than a front and rear. The rear should be here next week, then I can get down to business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    The purple 9:ZERO:7 absolutely rips!!! Running 810mm wide, "Loaded" green and flat bars...From OHIO The bike handles very well on the trailZ. Plenty of gears to climb @ 30T NW and 11-36 10 spd. Snow may change that??? 4.8 JJ's roll right through the through/over the rock gardens.

    I'm getting used to climbing standing up, but no wheel spin. Worked great on a long 1/2 Mile decent no fade in the Shimano 180mm brakes. Overall almost flawless so far! Except for the grips-> could use are stripping and slipping recommendation on those as the Serafas from REI a slipping! Orays??? No rock rash on the root beers yet... but first scratch and some mud....

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee View Post
    I'm building new wheels for the fattie, and like an idiot, I accidentally ordered two DTSwiss front hubs rather than a front and rear. The rear should be here next week, then I can get down to business.
    Now you have another hub on standby for another set of wheels!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Ergon. Especially on a rigid bike.
    I really like my ESI Chunky grips. Easy on and off w a bit of alcohol and they never budge. They are silicone foam rubber so they are insulating in the winter and still grippy when wet. I don't wear gloves in the warmer months. They even make a thicker one - Extra Chunky.

    I have always wanted to try the Ergon's. Look nice w the extra palm surface area for support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee View Post
    I'm building new wheels for the fattie, and like an idiot, I accidentally ordered two DTSwiss front hubs rather than a front and rear. The rear should be here next week, then I can get down to business.
    I think i'll be rolling the DT Swiss as well. I have word from DT that the IS 6 bolt disc version is due out at the end of this month or early next month, so i'm holding out for those.

    I look forward to building up my first set of wheels for my Purple Beast! Probably do the clown shoes on closeout.

    Anyone have a truing stand etc. they want to part with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee View Post
    I'm building new wheels for the fattie, and like an idiot, I accidentally ordered two DTSwiss front hubs rather than a front and rear. The rear should be here next week, then I can get down to business.
    Didn't you just forget to order two rears along with the two fronts and another pair of rims?
    Just helping you make excuses for all the wheels that are appearing around the house!

    Volksbike, I've been running a 28x 36-11 for the past 3 winters and it works quite well. You may wanna get another chainring for winter. The 30x36-11 sounds like a great summer ring. Sarge is 30x 36-11 and feels quite nice although he's a B+.
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    Hehe, yeah, I'm going to build two wheelsets. No excuses necessary!

    Photos to come, for sure.

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    I'm working up a pair of wheels ate the moment too. I love to lace up a pair of wheels from time to time.
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    I love my 907 so much that in the summer I hang it in the basement to ensure it is never too hot, or never too cold.

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    Dad's bike. Threw it mostly together Saturday. Brakes came today and the chainring will be in on Wednesday.
    He's gonna beat my brother getting out on a ride.
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    Dad's bike. Threw it mostly together Saturday. Brakes came today and the chainring will be in on Wednesday.
    He's gonna beat my brother getting out on a ride.
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    Your Mom had a litter when you were born!!

    It's awesome that you are pushing your brother and dad to ride bikes! Good stuff... :Cool:
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    Dad's bike. Threw it mostly together Saturday. Brakes came today and the chainring will be in on Wednesday.
    He's gonna beat my brother getting out on a ride.
    Everything blacked out looks great w that frame! You don't really NEED brakes though, do ya? Ha!

    Good to get your old man rolling!
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    Dad's bike. Threw it mostly together Saturday. Brakes came today and the chainring will be in on Wednesday.
    He's gonna beat my brother getting out on a ride.
    Very Nice with matching purple bits!! The purple is very dark and nice quality paint-> it grows on you!! Glad dad is gonna be riding it soon!

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    Dad's bike.
    Looking Good NY! I really like the purple/black!

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    Another vote for Ergons. Swapped all my bikes to Ergon Grips this year and in the process of moving to their saddles on my bikes. Very happy with their saddle & grip lineup.
    Two votes for Ergon was all I needed...thanks guys...





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    Yeah, the color is really nice. Once he said it was staying purple I bought a bunch of ano parts. My dad really likes it. He keeps saying how much he likes the all black wheels.
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    Sorry... Just noticed this. It's a Shimano XT 11-42 11 speed. It was like 3 dollars more than 10 speed. Got a Sram GX shifter and NX derailleur. It's getting a 28 tooth NW Raceface ring.
    I'm probably going to switch the drivetrain on my bike as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Sorry... Just noticed this. It's a Shimano XT 11-42 11 speed. It was like 3 dollars more than 10 speed. Got a Sram GX shifter and NX derailleur. It's getting a 28 tooth NW Raceface ring.
    I'm probably going to switch the drivetrain on my bike as well.
    11 sounds pretty good. I really like my XT clutch RD though. No slips on the Ergon grips on my ride today...rock solid!


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    11 sounds pretty good. I really like my XT clutch RD though. No slips on the Ergon grips on my ride today...rock solid!


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    I'll see how he does on the Peatys first.
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    Had an amazing ride on the 9:Zero:7 today! Left the dogs home and took challenging trail with some rocks, climbing and decents... This thing really rips!!


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    Had an amazing ride on the 9:Zero:7 today! Left the dogs home and took challenging trail with some climbing and decents This thing really rips!!


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    Mine has become my favorite bike. I ride it everywhere. Taking it to Florida next month. Can't wait to hit Boyette and Alafia on it. I've only previously ridden down there on my 29er fully.
    I ride the 907 way better than my other bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Had an amazing ride on the 9:Zero:7 today! Left the dogs home and took challenging trail with some rocks, climbing and decents... This thing really rips!!


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    Excellent news! Glad you're enjoying it!

    Cant' hardly wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Mine has become my favorite bike. I ride it everywhere. Taking it to Florida next month. Can't wait to hit Boyette and Alafia on it. I've only previously ridden down there on my 29er fully.
    I ride the 907 way better than my other bike.
    If i ever visit any coastal areas i,ll be sure to bring the 907 along. Many more options now!

    I must build!! I have always trued/repaired my wheels on the bike upside down or in the stand but if i am building up wheels from parts is it best to go with a wheel stand? Or just do without.

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    The truing stand will help to provide a solid reference point and get things lined up. There is a really good book by Roger Musson that shows you how to build your own stand out of wood, but if you want to get going right away, and the wheels are straightforward and not offset, it looks like you can use a fork or the frame. YMMV - I have only built one set of 26" MTB wheels ( using the fork and rear dropouts) for my Red 1986 Univega 23" MTB with the bull moose bars back in the day- As far as I know they are still rolling strong. For me, when dealing with offset fatbike wheels, the lacing on one side only of the rim for the RD it was worth the $40 at LBS to get it done...I will make an attempt for a regular fat wheel set at some point...
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    You're running offset on the 907??
    Or those were for another frame?

    I have downloaded Roger's ebook but was not sure i wanted yet another project. It looks like i could just extend the width and height of his plan to accomodate the fat wheel. I am a carpenter after all.

    Dang! 1986 Univega, you got me beat. 23" no less! I think my first MTB specific bike was a Cannondale in '89 or '90.
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    Surly Pugsley with offset fork. LBS built me 2 17mm offset Rabbit Hole 50mm 29+ wheels and I have one more front 82mm RD that is currently set up tubeless that needs to be rebuilt as off set with 135mm rear hub before this winter. The WB LBS guy said the offsets are more tricky and it took him a couple of trys to get it laced up right.

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    If i ever visit any coastal areas i,ll be sure to bring the 907 along. Many more options now!
    These places I ride in Florida aren't coastal at all. I do ride mine on the beach at home in the winter. I tried to post some trail pics but for some reason could not.
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    Dang! 1986 Univega, you got me beat. 23" no less! I think my first MTB specific bike was a Cannondale in '89 or '90.
    After the Univega, I had 23"1986 Raleigh Elkhorn 26er with Suntour non indexed thumb shifters that was a sweet ride...Those 2 bikes are probably why I still enjoy rigid MTB's...Next was a Cannondale F400 with a RoxSock Quadra pogostick front shock...and it went downhill from there...
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    I need to get off my hump and get some "summer" tires for my fatty.
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    What is the rotor size with calipers mounted directly to frame and fork post mounts? In other words, sans adapters.

    160 Front and Rear??
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    Frame Bags.

    So who has what makes of bag? Pictures please!

    I had a revelate for my Ally frame but I sold it with the bike, my new Carbon frame takes a size bigger, now I am looking for a new one.

    Obviously Revelate do one through fatbikes.com but they are out of stock of the XL size which I need for the large frame and they charge an arm and a leg for shipping over the pond.

    I looked at Rogue Panda, they look good, great price with a reasonable wait time....

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    So... I just finished my dad's bike tonight. We're all pretty busy so I had some time tonight. We ran over to his shop and I adjusted the spacing on the crankset and installed the brakes and made the lines longer. Bled them, adjusted everything and took it for a spin. Bike rides really nice. Pics coming.

    What happened after was kind of what I didn't need right now... My 11 year old jumped on it and it fits him perfectly. He's currently on a medium and I knew he was going to need a large soon. I'd better get him a frame while they're still on sale.
    Figures... I just built him 29+ wheels with the 135mm front hub.
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    Daddy, can I, huh, huh, can I please have one too?!?!?! @.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Daddy, can I, huh, huh, can I please have one too?!?!?! @.o

    What's Dad think of his new Jeep, uh, bike???
    This is insane... He's always been into boats and fishing. Now, on my way in to work this morning, he's texting me asking about which pump to get and which hitch rack to get... I've never seen any bike have such an affect on people as a fat bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Congrats Volksbike and Chipper! I am close to being able to pick one up myself!

    I definately would rather be out riding than inquiring about frame design details, and if I had one available to me to throw a leg over, i would. That'd be much easier, and more fun! I have never even had the oppurtunity to ride trail on a fatty! Fat bike NOOB here.

    I am genuinely interested in 9:zero:7 because they are the ONLY ones (I am aware of) that are not trending with the short chainstay thing. That is why I find them intriguing! So, in that way i am showing my Love.
    9:zero:7 is holding there line probably because they know something. I just would like to understand what that is before i invest in any frame w my hard earned $$.

    Pedal strikes suck, i know, because i also do not ride graded trails unless they lead somewhere. I have ridden my fare share of gnarly so good to know. Trails here for most part are pretty rolly singletrack. So if ever in CNY then def hit em if you get the chance.

    No banter intended here, definately not. Just hoping to learn something...
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    The "longer" chain stays show their strength on climbs--- they help to deliver more traction (by keeping the front end planted, and the rear digging) They also aid in the overall stability and comfort of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying_Scotsman View Post
    So who has what makes of bag? Pictures please!

    I had a revelate for my Ally frame but I sold it with the bike, my new Carbon frame takes a size bigger, now I am looking for a new one.

    Obviously Revelate do one through fatbikes.com but they are out of stock of the XL size which I need for the large frame and they charge an arm and a leg for shipping over the pond.

    I looked at Rogue Panda, they look good, great price with a reasonable wait time....
    Actually, we still have a limited stock of XL Revelate frame bags at fatbikes.com -- just give us a call and we'll invoice you over the phone, and send it on its way! Having some problems with the site -- but please, always feel free to call :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlynn907 View Post
    The "longer" chain stays show their strength on climbs--- they help to deliver more traction (by keeping the front end planted, and the rear digging) They also aid in the overall stability and comfort of the bike.
    My experience is they give less traction on climbs. Rear wheel further back means less weight on rear so less traction. It does mean more weight on the front. So they do keep the front wheel down. I spin out from lack of weight on the rear wheel before I flip over backwards from too light on the front. Different riding styles may have different results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlynn907 View Post
    Actually, we still have a limited stock of XL Revelate frame bags at fatbikes.com -- just give us a call and we'll invoice you over the phone, and send it on its way! Having some problems with the site -- but please, always feel free to call :-)
    Thanks, I ordered a bag last week and Brian helped sort it out for me. Left Alaska on Thursday got to North Yorkshire in the UK Monday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    My experience is they give less traction on climbs. Rear wheel further back means less weight on rear so less traction. It does mean more weight on the front. So they do keep the front wheel down. I spin out from lack of weight on the rear wheel before I flip over backwards from too light on the front. Different riding styles may have different results.
    If you are losing traction on a fat bike before flipping it over backwards...you might want to adjust technique. I will easily pull my front end off the ground on climbs, and the longer stays mean my front end stays manageable on the steep stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    If you are losing traction on a fat bike before flipping it over backwards...you might want to adjust technique. I will easily pull my front end off the ground on climbs, and the longer stays mean my front end stays manageable on the steep stuff.
    Regarding "Flipping over backwards", I was speaking with a bit of hyperbole. I Know not always clear on the internet.

    Mainly I was responding to the blanket statement that long stays were better for climbing. For me, and I suspect many others, that is not true. I'm not saying super short chain stays are always the answer just that longer is not necessarily better. As you say different people have different riding styles and there is more than one way to solve any given problem.
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    Two more I forgot about...
    My old 190 black frame in the snow and my friend's 170 frame I just built 29+ wheels for. He also rocks Darryls and Hudus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    My experience is they give less traction on climbs. Rear wheel further back means less weight on rear so less traction. It does mean more weight on the front. So they do keep the front wheel down. I spin out from lack of weight on the rear wheel before I flip over backwards from too light on the front. Different riding styles may have different results.
    That would be dependent on one's riding style and if they are capable of moving fore and aft as needed.
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    Deer sighting on my 907 ride tonight...was loving the long stays up the hills though

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    That would be dependent on one's riding style and if they are capable of moving fore and aft as needed.
    Yeah, this was proven to me today.

    I went for my first dirt ride ever with the 907 - I've only ridden on snow - and near my house is a man-made snowboard park. It has an extremely steep gravel road to the top, and on my 29er I'd always spun out at least once, and had to scoot forward onto the nose of the saddle on some points. On the 907, I just sat and spun the whole way up. The only point I broke loose at all was when I stood up and cranked hard a few times just for fun.

    On that same grade, on my old Stumpjumper 26er, the nose of that saddle would have been right up my bunghole the whole time.

    The long stays work for me for the way I ride now.

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    Glad you're getting some ride time in with the 907 and finding out how well it climbs. In the near future I'll be horking the parts offa my 907 to go on my Mayor that just arrived. As the budget allows I'll get the bits to put the 907 back in service with an RSD fork to bring up the BB and get it out cause I love the ride quality but can't deal with a BB that's 11.75" to center for maximum pedalstrike count. I think its a faulty build.
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    Second ride on dirt in two days. Let's just say...I totally get it now. I bought this bike for winter riding, and I was dubious about it's merits in Stockholm, since there's so many miles of well-groomed cycling paths and very little in the way of unexplored territory.

    Well, it seems that in the woods nearby, there's tons of off-camber rock, angled roots, loosely-packed gravel and incredibly steep hero dirt that is now open to me. I shied away from lots of it with my 29er because it was so treacherous, even with 2.40 tires with really grippy tread.

    I spent a bunch of my time looking for crazy obstacles that are basically impossible on my other bikes just to see if I could pull them off. It changes the ride around here completely. Call me a believer.
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    Schnee, now that you are completely addicted!!! Ya, the fatbike is limited by it's owner and nothing more! They are very utilitarian, kinda the land rover of the bike world and more fun than we should be allowed to have. Glad you're having the time of your life riding fat.
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    Oh man, can't wait to get mine built up! Glad you're enjoying the ride! I am still gathering parts as money allows.

    Would like to get one of those frame bags too. How do you like that Revelate Schnee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Glad you're getting some ride time in with the 907 and finding out how well it climbs. In the near future I'll be horking the parts offa my 907 to go on my Mayor that just arrived. As the budget allows I'll get the bits to put the 907 back in service with an RSD fork to bring up the BB and get it out cause I love the ride quality but can't deal with a BB that's 11.75" to center for maximum pedalstrike count. I think its a faulty build.
    I guess i am not understanding, it's a faulty build? What do you mean?

    The BB is a bit low i guess. What is your terrain like?

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    The BB is 11.75" form the ground and the bike is a pedalstrike factory. Not exactly the ideal height for a rock crawler. I guess if every trail was perfectly graded it would be good to go. The Rocky Mountains are not smooth enough for this bike. I believe the frame is faulty due to the lack of ground clearance. The thing doesn't have to lean to pedalstrike. I have spoken to others that have 907's and their BB height is 12.75". Major difference in those #'s.


    The Mayor is 13" form the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    I guess i am not understanding, it's a faulty build? What do you mean?

    The BB is a bit low i guess. What is your terrain like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    I have spoken to others that have 907's and their BB height is 12.75". Major difference in those #'s.
    You have spoken to others with the same exact wheel/tire setup and their bb is 1" higher? May I ask what wheels/tires you are running on your bike?

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    RD's and either D5's or Bud/Lou. They are using the same, so the measurement should be closer than a 1" tolerance but then again this stuff is coming at us from china where tolerances are 1'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Would like to get one of those frame bags too. How do you like that Revelate Schnee?
    Funny enough, I have this one - a Ranger - and the bag specifically made for the 907 by Revelate. The 907 one is roomer, but the Ranger is much nicer.

    The 907-specific one has one big chamber, accessible by a zipper near the top drive-side, and a divider that basically allows water bottles to sit vertically near the tall end. That's it. That said, it's extremely wide - it fills the triangle out to the width of the bottom bracket - so it can hold a heck of a lot of stuff.

    The Ranger, on the other hand, has two horizontal chambers accessible via the drive-side, and the one on top perfectly fits a 5-liter Camelbak bladder and has a port for the hose. The bottom chamber is perfect for a compact pump, tools, and mini-U lock. The non-drive side has a full-length, thin pocket tall enough for an iPhone+ on it's side. I store my keys, phone, and credit cards in there. The overall bag itself is not terribly wide - it's made for non-fat bikes, so it expects a narrower bottom bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    The BB is 11.75" form the ground and the bike is a pedalstrike factory. Not exactly the ideal height for a rock crawler. I guess if every trail was perfectly graded it would be good to go. The Rocky Mountains are not smooth enough for this bike. I believe the frame is faulty due to the lack of ground clearance. The thing doesn't have to lean to pedalstrike. I have spoken to others that have 907's and their BB height is 12.75". Major difference in those #'s.


    The Mayor is 13" form the ground.
    Wow! A 1" difference! Aside from different wheel/tire combo's that is, well... Have you talked to 9:zero:7 about it?

    Do you have the '14-'15 197 aluminum frame?

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    It's one of the last aluminum 14's. the 15 models were revised with thru axle. Yeah, I thought this one might have been a blem because of the absurd BB drop. It's perfect for Van Nuys Blvd. on Wednesday nite tho'! Lowrider, get a little lower, lowrider, drive a little slower...

    Sent an email just after I built it up and never heard back. Now I will try contacting em again to see if this was the norm for the 14's or if I do in fact have a blem. Being that it's now 16 and my frame is a 14, not expecting they would do anything but never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    It's one of the last aluminum 14's. the 15 models were revised with thru axle. Yeah, I thought this one might have been a blem because of the absurd BB drop. It's perfect for Van Nuys Blvd. on Wednesday nite tho'! Lowrider, get a little lower, lowrider, drive a little slower...

    Sent an email just after I built it up and never heard back. Now I will try contacting em again to see if this was the norm for the 14's or if I do in fact have a blem. Being that it's now 16 and my frame is a 14, not expecting they would do anything but never know.

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    Weird, but you may be right!

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    It's one of the last aluminum 14's. the 15 models were revised with thru axle. Yeah, I thought this one might have been a blem because of the absurd BB drop. It's perfect for Van Nuys Blvd. on Wednesday nite tho'! Lowrider, get a little lower, lowrider, drive a little slower...

    Sent an email just after I built it up and never heard back. Now I will try contacting em again to see if this was the norm for the 14's or if I do in fact have a blem. Being that it's now 16 and my frame is a 14, not expecting they would do anything but never know.

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    It's hard to say but the chainstay and BB does look different than the bike in their stock photo:
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    That's a strange botch but i suppose it could happen. Maybe used the wrong jig or the jig slipped or something.

    Maybe you'll get to change your opinion that 907's are prone to pedal strike!
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    You posted a picture of the 2015, the same one I have.

    It's a significantly different bike.
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    Yeah... Banshee, I measured a thru axle frame. I have a black ano bike like yours but it's apart right now. I can probably convert a wheel to qr and get a measurement on that frame for you as well.
    I gotta say though, I rode that bike for two years with 180mm cranks and didn't strike any more than with the new frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee View Post
    You posted a picture of the 2015, the same one I have.

    It's a significantly different bike.
    Yes, hard to find a comparable photo where the perspective is similar to the one Banshee posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Yes, hard to find a comparable photo where the perspective is similar to the one Banshee posted.
    Do all the bikes not have a 60mm BB drop though? In my simple brain, surely the easiest way to measure is a line from axle to axle and measure the drop... if the BB is that low it would look more like a 90mm drop than 60mm.... then you take any tyre rim combo out the equation??

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    Working with Jlynn on it at the moment! I wish I had received the PM prior to stealing the parts and slipping em on the Mayor.
    Hopefully we can figure out a solution, cause I really have enjoyed the 907 over the past couple years.
    It was kind sad kypiing the parts from it. Time to set a budget aside for it's revival, I guess. There is considerable sentimental value in the 907 cause the bike was my cardiac therapist from the time I had the M. I. and surgery til now. I still have the hand written prescription from the cardiologist for the fatty! Gotta find it so I can post it up, kewl stuff, considering all I was going through at the time. I was part way through the build when the M. I. occurred. Fvck, I need to get the 907 back on track!
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    ^Good to hear jlynn has been able to find the time to respond after all those years! Sad that you gave up on the bike so easy, but I guess when you experience poor/zero communication you start to lose faith.

    Same thing is happening with my buddy right now. I convinced him that he needed to upgrade his AL 9:ZERO:7 to a Carbon, he was worried about the Carbon clearing 4.8's on 100mm rims. Stated they would fit on the website, but guess what doesn't fit? Doesn't even clear Knards on 90mm rims.

    Now they want HIM to pay for shipping back to Alaska to look at the bike, that is a pretty penny too. I am really bummed that he switched to carbon cuz of me, now has to ditch his big tire setup.

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    johnshonda, it's been 2 years of daily driving this bike. I was really saddened taking parts off it and putting them on the mayor since the 907 has been with me through a massive coronary (a month before the build was completed) and cardiac rehab. This bike has great deal of sentimental value, indeed! This decision was not arrived at readily or done lightly, rest assured.

    After having a convo with Brian at 907, I learned that the fork is the last of the non-suspension corrected forks. At least now I have a logical answer and no linger believe the frame is a blem. I will be ordering a fork in the near future and building my good friend back up and resolving an empty spot in the collective!

    Sorry to hear of your friend's experience with the plastic frame. Seems very unusual for anything 907 to not clear a 4.8.
    The shipping will be rather expensive due to insurance along with the shipping cost. Not fun at all. Hope they get it sorted.



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    ^Good to hear jlynn has been able to find the time to respond after all those years! Sad that you gave up on the bike so easy, but I guess when you experience poor/zero communication you start to lose faith.

    Same thing is happening with my buddy right now. I convinced him that he needed to upgrade his AL 9:ZERO:7 to a Carbon, he was worried about the Carbon clearing 4.8's on 100mm rims. Stated they would fit on the website, but guess what doesn't fit? Doesn't even clear Knards on 90mm rims.

    Now they want HIM to pay for shipping back to Alaska to look at the bike, that is a pretty penny too. I am really bummed that he switched to carbon cuz of me, now has to ditch his big tire setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Yes, hard to find a comparable photo where the perspective is similar to the one Banshee posted.
    Yeah, definitely. That said, I meant to say before the new bike is significantly different *technically* - which may explain his BB drop issue where my bike is fine. It's hard to tell their different years/models apart other than the frame logos.

    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    After having a convo with Brian at 907, I learned that the fork is the last of the non-suspension corrected forks. At least now I have a logical answer and no linger believe the frame is a blem. I will be ordering a fork in the near future and building my good friend back up and resolving an empty spot in the collective!
    That makes perfect sense in hindsight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    ^Good to hear jlynn has been able to find the time to respond after all those years! Sad that you gave up on the bike so easy, but I guess when you experience poor/zero communication you start to lose faith.

    Same thing is happening with my buddy right now. I convinced him that he needed to upgrade his AL 9:ZERO:7 to a Carbon, he was worried about the Carbon clearing 4.8's on 100mm rims. Stated they would fit on the website, but guess what doesn't fit? Doesn't even clear Knards on 90mm rims.

    Now they want HIM to pay for shipping back to Alaska to look at the bike, that is a pretty penny too. I am really bummed that he switched to carbon cuz of me, now has to ditch his big tire setup.

    I sent you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying_Scotsman View Post
    Do all the bikes not have a 60mm BB drop though? In my simple brain, surely the easiest way to measure is a line from axle to axle and measure the drop... if the BB is that low it would look more like a 90mm drop than 60mm.... then you take any tyre rim combo out the equation??
    It's a matter of the A/C installed on a frame as to how the -60 will work in the real world. Funny to learn that my bike is currently equipped with a non- corrected fork which has a shorter A/C than a suspension corrected fork. So yeah, I have the cruise night fork and not the Land Rover/Jeep fork! Doh! I need a wheelset, bars & stem and I'll have a SS FatA$$ to ride! Oh, and the Jeep trail rated fork! lol...
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    Back in the saddle again!!! Found this beach chair in the middle of nowhere on my ride today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Back in the saddle again!!! Found this beach chair in the middle of nowhere on my ride today...

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    Did you sit in it and have a little break?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Did you sit in it and have a little break?
    'Twas tempted but maybe next time I get out that way.

    Someone also left a whole boat behind in the general area, as lots of kids party in that neck of the woods, with Graduation season and all, I figured someone had such a good time they forgot their chair?

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    9:zero:7 Love-uploadfromtaptalk1469486715018.jpg

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    Volksbike, that looks like a trials stem! 135mm length?
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    9:zero:7 Love-p7121255.jpg

    It was about a thousand degrees. Lakeland Florida. Fatbike was the perfect tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Volksbike, that looks like a trials stem! 135mm length?
    Sounds about right 120-130mm ish 😃 I like 'em long since I am so tall. ..Also you or NY was right about the stock seatpost clamp. It kept slipsliding away and I finally replaced it with a Salsa QR. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
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    Haha! Welcome to the blast furnace! Bike looks bytchen with that color!

    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Sounds about right 120-130mm ish 😃 I like 'em long since I am so tall. ..Also you or NY was right about the stock seatpost clamp. It kept slipsliding away and I finally replaced it with a Salsa QR. Lol

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    There's a reason I have calluses on my knuckles... lol I went the 800mm bar route with a 70mm stem and it works out nicely. Power steering in the river rock Jeepin area is awesome. In the trees I have to dance my way through. Catastrophic when I mess up tho'.
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    Anyone thinking about a 9Zero7 purple special I can confirm that the color is not as light as the website pictures. Much darker color. I was prepared to get mine powercoated but I now don't think it is needed. The finish is nicely done with clear coated decals. With black components it will be pretty low key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volksbike View Post
    Sounds about right 120-130mm ish 😃 I like 'em long since I am so tall. ..Also you or NY was right about the stock seatpost clamp. It kept slipsliding away and I finally replaced it with a Salsa QR. Lol

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    Did you toss it into a field like I said?
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    Been out for a few rides recently, some concrete....

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    Then I got a good shot of my friend, Smurfy, catching some air...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Did you toss it into a field like I said?
    Not yet but will do next opportunity I get!

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    Any feedback on the 9:zero:7 carbon rims? 80mm or 100mm. I'm looking to buy a set here this fall.
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    If you are putting together a 9zero7 purple special, and you are as cheap as I am, you might find this e Thriteen crank interesting. It is really nicely made but has a proprietary 30mm BB. But most things are prorietary these days. Made for the wide rear spacing of the purple whiteout 197 with a 128mm spindle for a 100mm standard BSC threaded BB shell. Auction does not include the BB.Comes with spacers to move the BB around for chainline.

    E 13 by The Hive XCX Plus Fat Bike Crankset 42 32 24T 175mm Black | eBay

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    My son took the 9:ZERO:7 out for a ride and loved it...he still has some growing to do to fit the XL frame, but I was surprised how easily he handled it...

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    BTW, The bike worked great on the MTB Trails in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom near Burke mountain --> very fun to ride!

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    My picture from a few weeks ago above managed to make front page news!!

    https://fat-bike.com/2016/08/wallpap...ire%209:Zero:7

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