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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmf003 View Post
    More Farley 9.6 size XL weight info:

    Bicycle, tubeless with Xpedo Spry pedals: 27.4 lbs

    27.5 Hodag tire: 1230 gr (only weighed one)

    27.5 tube: 440 gr (both weighed the same)

    27.5 wheels:
    Front: 1300 gr
    Rear: 1640 gr (seems too heavy but I've mounted the tire and can't recheck)
    So just weighed my Hodag wheels.
    1140front
    1340rear

    About a pound lighter than the Jackalopes. I wish they had used higher end lighter hubs. Probably could be 150-200 grams less.

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    Picked up my 7 today. Got some weight weenie info for you.

    All weights are with Spank spike pedals.

    Stock bike 30 lb 6 oz
    Tubeless bike 29 lb 9 oz
    Bluto installed 31 lb 14 oz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftchmup View Post
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    This is what Trek should have built. Sweet Ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftchmup View Post
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    Sweet bike. Put on some blue rim strips and blue bottle holder. That purple frame is kick butt!!!

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    Tnx for the 7 pic, still waitin for mine, havent heard from my lbs yet, but hope to get a txt soon!
    The bluto fits the 7 just perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftchmup View Post
    Picked up my 7 today. Got some weight weenie info for you.

    All weights are with Spank spike pedals.

    Stock bike 30 lb 6 oz
    Tubeless bike 29 lb 9 oz
    Bluto installed 31 lb 14 oz
    Did you happen to weigh the Barbegazi's?
    I bike with tires.

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    Just put a deposit down on a 5, expected 1st week of November. So excited! My girlfriend says it's the most crass, hideous, obscene thing she has ever seen...so now I KNOW I've done the right thing ! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr3anmachin3 View Post
    Just put a deposit down on a 5, expected 1st week of November. So excited! My girlfriend says it's the most crass, hideous, obscene thing she has ever seen...so now I KNOW I've done the right thing ! :-)
    The girl has some problems if that's true, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardnation View Post
    Did you happen to weigh the Barbegazi's?

    I got total weight with tire,

    Before after
    Front 7lb 4oz 6lb 12oz
    back 8lb 10oz 8lb 1oz

    Oh, it is a 17.5" bike

    What about red Grips, rim strips and red graphics on the shok??
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    I got a 9.6 Farley. Here's my mini-review:

    I spent about month researching bikes. This was a lot of money for me to spend, but fat biking year round is my primary recreation and a big part of my life. I wanted to move on from my highly upgraded pugs ops. Early in my search I started to focus on Trek. Each model seemed to have a leg up over the competitors as far as specs. The primary attractions of the Farley line was: thru axles, adjustable and short chainstays, 1x11, no tire limitations, reasonable Q-factor and good components for the money.

    My main hesitation was the 27.5 x 80mm wheel set. Not sure I wanted any more diameter for my summer tires and I wasn't sure a slightly lower aspect tire was a good thing for rough trails. Plus, it seemed a little like a gimmick. I even made arrangements to trade the stock wheelset for a nice set of marge lites. But first I took her for a test ride.
    Well "Sam I Am", I DO like 27.5 wheels! Probably partially due to the Trek geometry, they seemed more nimble and quick than my old 26x80mm wheels, while rolling over stuff just a tad bit better. Especially on some low angle gravel, the bike just kept gaining speed more than I was used to. It's not like the extra .75" radius changes the world or anything--it just seems like the bike is slightly faster, better at rolling over trail clutter and has no negative handling drawbacks.

    So, sold on the new fangled wheel size, I proceeded to set up tubeless. Took just a few minutes to take out the 1 pound tube, put in stans, inflate with a floor pump. They are even pretaped for you. Compared to my rolling dayrls which required foam, split tube, compressor and chanting sacred spells, this was like pushing the big easy button.

    Yesterday I got in the first real hard ride of the bike on a loop with just about every trail condition. I was still wondering about the carbon fork. I'm a rigid kind of guy, and the front fork is very important. I've had carbon forks which are too dang stiff (whisky on my 29er) and carbon forks that are noodles and too soft (the carver on my pugs). Well, Trek's Fork is just right. No tweaking under hard braking, nice compliance and precision. SWEET!

    The 11 speed drivetrain preformed perfectly after some adjustments after the first ride. Cable stretch I guess. I ditched the spoke protector once I was sure things were working well.

    On yesterdays ride I ran about 10 pounds of pressure on everything from hard pack buff single track, gravel road and rocky hell atv trail (see pics). With my old 26x4 bike, it seemed like such delicate balancing act to get the pressure low enough to not be bouncy, but high enough to not have sluggish steering. Maybe it's my "new bike excitement" but I think I can run a little higher pressure with the 27.5's, to have excellent steering while still having good rock and root absorption.
    I know one thing--I never once thought "gee, I wish I had smaller wheels with less rubber" It was fast and fun for every foot of the ride.

    Even though I blew the budget already with this bike, I'm going to go for a second wheelset for winter--clownshoes and 5" dillingers. But I can't wait to try out the 27.5's. I wouldn't be surprised if the stock wheelset gets used just as much or more.

    One last thought: It seems like every year there is one or two fat bike brands which lead the pack. It's my opinion that this is Treks year.

    Happy Trails!
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    Thanks for the write up, Teton. I have a couple of weeks on my 9.6 with quite a bit of rough trail riding and mud riding, and I am still impressed. I hot some sharp roots and rocks where I was expecting to get a flat, but had no problem (I am tubeless as well). My biggest issue at this point is breaks. The Avids really like to howel, and scare the s**t out of the hikers when I am approaching and have to get on the brakes. Are others less than impressed with the brake noise? Should I just keep working them hard and hope it will go away? Maybe different pads before I give up on them? Overall, I am really happy with the bike. I agree with you on the tires as well. I was thinking about getting some Dillinger studded tires, but now I am thinking about holding off to see what comes out in 27.5 in the next year since they are working so well.

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    I just got my Farley 5, does anyone know if the rear hub is shimano 11 speed compatible?

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    Damn that 7 is sweet - can't wait!

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    has anyoneheard any whispers about the wampa 27.5 wheelset or rim being available aftermarket? ive been looking and havent seen any info...
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    Quote Originally Posted by travisjgood View Post
    I just got my Farley 5, does anyone know if the rear hub is shimano 11 speed compatible?
    shimano MTB 11 speed runs on standard 9/10 speed freehub
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardnation View Post
    Did you happen to weigh the Barbegazi's?
    I pulled the barbie tire off a farley 5 our shop got in, and it weighed 1375g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rain100 View Post
    I pulled the barbie tire off a farley 5 our shop got in, and it weighed 1375g.
    Many thanks my friend!
    I bike with tires.

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    This is interesting. I'm planning on putting my Farley 5 on a diet when I get it. I'm probably gonna start with tubeless, then some Nukeproof Electron pedals, then maybe look at carbon bars. Any Farley 5+ owners got further suggestions?

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    depends how much you want to spend... at a certain point the 7 is the better route to start...

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    Not too much! I was all set to buy a Norco Sight AL 7.1 2015 but then the Fat Bike brain worms took hold. I started my research looking at On-One Fattys (while nice looking bikes) but decided their bikes were still adhering to old standards. I had almost settled on the Canyon Dude (a superb spec Fat Bike) but couldn't live with the wait times...then I found Trek & here I am. People are already telling me it's a fad & there's nowhere here I can ride it but I disagree!

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    Some of u might like this..,keep an eye out for the 2 fat bikes. The first one is fully rigid & he's fairly shifting! This is a red bull event that runs in N.Ireland every year:
    http://youtu.be/OWf4Yq2S73A

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr3anmachin3 View Post
    This is interesting. I'm planning on putting my Farley 5 on a diet when I get it. I'm probably gonna start with tubeless, then some Nukeproof Electron pedals, then maybe look at carbon bars. Any Farley 5+ owners got further suggestions?
    You're really fighting an uphill battle there given the drivetrain etc. The carbon bars won't save you much either. Best bet is the 7 with the 1x drivetrain, carbon fork, lighter bars...
    Save a little longer or don't worry about trying to cut weight from the 5.

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    thanks TitanofChaos

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    Still digging my Farley 5. Unfortunately I've missed the last of the snow down here, and we're now into an earlier than usual bushfire season. Just a heads-up: the rear tyre buzzes the front derailleur when the Stranglehold dropout is set at its foremost position. I've subsequently set mine exactly in the middle for the time being but even more reason to convert to a 1x setup sooner rather than later. The lack of interface between Avid brake levers & Shimano shifter mounts is a minor set up flaw: I can get the brake levers perfectly set for 1 finger operation but then the shifter position, especially the front, can't be set optimally. Again...more fuel to prompt a move to the 1x campfire.

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    Trek Farley 7 shipping

    The Trek Farley 7's are hitting MN. No time for weighing or in depth reviewing, just snuck in a ride at the park on my way home from the LBS.

    5" tires are definitely more than 1" of additional fun than 4" tires. Roots? What roots?

    Can't wait to see how she handles in the snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    You're really fighting an uphill battle there given the drivetrain etc. The carbon bars won't save you much either. Best bet is the 7 with the 1x drivetrain, carbon fork, lighter bars...
    Save a little longer or don't worry about trying to cut weight from the 5.
    yeah I suppose. As my first venture into Fat Biking I didn't want to spend too much. Will probably just go tubeless to begin. Still want some cash set aside for a Giant Defy 0 or maybe a Norco Sight. Might check with my dealer though how much he can get the 7 for. Didn't see it listed on the UK sites...they go from 5's right up to 9's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Dan View Post
    Still digging my Farley 5. Unfortunately I've missed the last of the snow down here, and we're now into an earlier than usual bushfire season. Just a heads-up: the rear tyre buzzes the front derailleur when the Stranglehold dropout is set at its foremost position. I've subsequently set mine exactly in the middle for the time being but even more reason to convert to a 1x setup sooner rather than later. The lack of interface between Avid brake levers & Shimano shifter mounts is a minor set up flaw: I can get the brake levers perfectly set for 1 finger operation but then the shifter position, especially the front, can't be set optimally. Again...more fuel to prompt a move to the 1x campfire.
    have exact same issue on my 2012 Anthem with Avid brakes and Shimano shifters. Problem is compounded by a Reverb dropper. Wish these manufacturers would pull their finger out and allow cross matching of parts. I know it's against their interests but it frustrates the hell out of me.

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    picked up my 7 yesterday! probably won't get to take it out on dirt until this weekend, but it was even fun riding home from the shop on pavement with this thing


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    Which one should I buy; Farley 6 2015 or Farley 5 2016? I like the paint job of 6 more. What are the differences? Price is about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvd View Post
    picked up my 7 yesterday! probably won't get to take it out on dirt until this weekend, but it was even fun riding home from the shop on pavement with this thing

    I don't think Trek are selling the 7 in the UK here. I can't see it anywhere. Nice looking bike.

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    Loving that purple LVD. Sweet looking machine.

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    Tubeless Woes

    The split-tube method works super great on my Moonie, but I can't do split-tube method on the 2016 Farly-5's mulefut rims, due to the tubeless ready tire being so tight (not to mention the trek-recammended valves won't work on a single wall rim).

    Anyhoo, the mulefut rim, then the liner, with tuck-tape sealing it (left overnight with the tube in, mashing the tape down). This morning I went to put some TLR sauce in them (great stuff by the way), but it and the air come out the rim seams.

    I'm stumped. I mean, it must be passing through the tape (hence why I love split-tube), but from inspection, I can't find where.

    Does anyone have a some suggestions?

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    Email from my lbs today, they will have it ready tomorrow, or saturday! Can't sleep

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    My LBS had me do a little test ride on a Stache 7 (same color). I'm afraid if he had a Farley 7 I wouldn't be able to walk away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surlybugger View Post
    The split-tube method works super great on my Moonie, but I can't do split-tube method on the 2016 Farly-5's mulefut rims, due to the tubeless ready tire being so tight (not to mention the trek-recammended valves won't work on a single wall rim).

    Anyhoo, the mulefut rim, then the liner, with tuck-tape sealing it (left overnight with the tube in, mashing the tape down). This morning I went to put some TLR sauce in them (great stuff by the way), but it and the air come out the rim seams.

    I'm stumped. I mean, it must be passing through the tape (hence why I love split-tube), but from inspection, I can't find where.

    Does anyone have a some suggestions?
    HI Surly,
    I had a few failures with black gorilla tape myself. Finally I used two wraps and filled the little rim holes with epoxy and it worked like a charm. But later have learned that this tape is not ideal, even as popular as it is. I'd suggest using the 78mm tape made for for this rim:

    https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...1&category=139

    many have not filled the little holes and had good results as long as the tape covers them.

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    What is so hard about using the actual tape sold for these rims and proven to work? Start there rather than almost intentuonaly and inexplicably asking for problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teton29er View Post
    HI Surly,
    I had a few failures with black gorilla tape myself. Finally I used two wraps and filled the little rim holes with epoxy and it worked like a charm. But later have learned that this tape is not ideal, even as popular as it is. I'd suggest using the 78mm tape made for for this rim:

    https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...1&category=139

    many have not filled the little holes and had good results as long as the tape covers them.
    Thanks for the kit link and info. Funny you mentioned epoxy resin. I let some wick into the one rim with the leaky rim seam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    What is so hard about using the actual tape sold for these rims and proven to work? Start there rather than almost intentuonaly and inexplicably asking for problems.
    I just discovered the actual tape kit now, upon recieiving the reply notifications. First thing I did was ask trek what to do. The reply was info regurgitated from the known methods discussed elsewhere on this fine site, and obviously the tech had never done it on the actual rim he was talking about, becuse what he said to use would not actually work. The kits they offered were for the jackalope rim too.

    I figured the tuck tape, because it was thin. Well see how the hold; and if not, the kit above to solve it for good.

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    I think you'll have good luck with the Sun tape - should be trouble free.
    FYI there is a Mulefut 80sl thread here, if you haven't seen it yet. Dig it up and
    give it a gander.

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    Picked up my Farley 7 at J&R Cycle and Ski in Villa Park, IL yesterday. Great folks to work with, I called and they dropped what they were doing to assemble the bike so I could pick it up on my way through Chicago (my lbs at home said they wouldn't have one until January, if at all).

    Loving it so far, it's my first fat bike. Parts ordered to convert to tubeless, and a Bluto is in my future as well.

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    pics or it didn't happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftchmup View Post
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    Were you able to reuse the crown race from the stock fork with the Bluto?
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    It should work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    Were you able to reuse the crown race from the stock fork with the Bluto?
    LBS ordered another crown race so changing between forks is easier. They are interchangeable according to the LBS.

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    Finally after a long wait my Farley 9.8 is here!

    Trek Farley by , on Flickr

    24.53lb as it sits.. tubeless 4oz of stans in each wheel with alloy valves. bumped the front rotor to 180mm with adapter. also swapped grips to ODI SLs and switch stem to Race Face Turbine 60mm and Ti rotor bolts. Need to chop the steerer, apply some frame savers swap the housing to Alligator iLink. remove the warning labels..

    Some notes...

    was able to setup front wheel tubeless with just my Lezyne floor pump.

    Front wheel - 1160g
    Rear wheel - 1355g
    Tires - 1290g, 1295g

    Crankset has ring flipped which would should mean 169mm spindle. Will confirm next week when my new chainring comes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    pics or it didn't happen
    Argh, busted! I made it all up.

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    Picked up my 19,5" farley (i'm 5ft,11in) 7 half an hour ago. Sweeeet
    I did not understand the pic uploader, so I gave up...
    Ordered a bluto as well. Probably goin for a little ride now

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    Quote Originally Posted by crohnsy View Post
    Finally after a long wait my Farley 9.8 is here!

    Trek Farley by , on Flickr

    24.53lb as it sits.. tubeless 4oz of stans in each wheel with alloy valves. bumped the front rotor to 180mm with adapter. also swapped grips to ODI SLs and switch stem to Race Face Turbine 60mm and Ti rotor bolts. Need to chop the steerer, apply some frame savers swap the housing to Alligator iLink. remove the warning labels..

    Some notes...

    was able to setup front wheel tubeless with just my Lezyne floor pump.

    Front wheel - 1160g
    Rear wheel - 1355g
    Tires - 1290g, 1295g

    Crankset has ring flipped which would should mean 169mm spindle. Will confirm next week when my new chainring comes in.
    Are those the stock bars & grips? If so, they're different from my recently purchased 9.8. Trek might have made a running change.

    Also, what chainring are you putting on?

    Thanks.

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    The bars are stock. Rxl carbons. Grips are after market. Odi longneck sl's changed the stem from rxl 80 to turbine 60

    Just switching to a red race face ring.

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    Farley 9.6

    With small mods
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
    Which one should I buy; Farley 6 2015 or Farley 5 2016? I like the paint job of 6 more. What are the differences? Price is about the same.

    I might be biased, but the 6 probably has slightly better components. However it is limited to four inch tires. This has not been a problem for me in NW Wisconsin. I love my 6 for both single track and winter. I debated upgrading to a 7 primarily because I think the purple looks awesome, but opted to purchase a Surly Karate Monkey SS instead. If I was buying a new fat today, It'd be the 7.

    Bottom line, you couldn't go wrong with either. What is the price on the 6?
    it's a challenge some of us are ultimately worthy of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaMMu76 View Post
    With small mods
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    That is absolutely beautiful! Well done!

    I'm looking at doing clownshoe version of that for winter.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm A nice mixer this morning

    A few pics from my ride this morning

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    Takes the single track better than I thought it would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedeezy View Post
    Takes the single track better than I thought it would.


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    I really enjoy mine out on the trail I got about 20 miles single track this morning and another 12 gravel/paved to get there and home. Thing is just a blast to ride.
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    Nice bike..lol like the 27.5 wheel size but hoping there are more options coming sooner rather than later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    I think you'll have good luck with the Sun tape - should be trouble free.
    FYI there is a Mulefut 80sl thread here, if you haven't seen it yet. Dig it up and
    give it a gander.
    Thanks Gambit. I'll hunt it down and send the link to my buddies that own the things.

    It's a pity they have to spend so much with Treks system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    Looks beasty with the Bud and Lou!
    I wish there was a 27.5 bud and Lou. I ran those on my fatback. Maybe next year we will get some different options.

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    1st post.

    After following this thread since it was at 2 pages, I am happy say that "this" happened today:

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    No big mods, my saddle, tubeless... had a great ride this evening and look forward to riding tomorrow.

    thanks to everyone else for posting all the pics.... has been a fun wait.

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    Stopped by my LBS and they had two Farley 9.6s. Stock large with tubes and without pedals was 28.2 pounds. Bike felt solid on the test drive. Was tempted at 2999. Don't want a press fit BB though.

    Side note they have had three Whiskey carbon rim failures. Saw one. Broken at two different locations. Said it was a bad batch..

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    Farley 7 First Ride

    Got out on the trails in Percy Warner Park in Nashville today. We ran into probably a dozen other riders, at least half of whom said "nice fattie!". I didn't think I was that out of shape, but maybe the trail riding will do me some good. They damn sure better not have been talking about my wife.

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    I've got a few rides in now and am absolutely loving this bike! I converted to tubeless and damn those tubes were heavy! I used the SR tape that is made for the rims, worked like a dream!

    Ran into a couple of fellow Farley owners at the Arcadia Dunes yesterday, they were sporting the 6 and 8 from last year. It was great shooting the s**t with them! One of them mentioned a Farley group on FB, anyone have a link to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    I wish there was a 27.5 bud and Lou. I ran those on my fatback. Maybe next year we will get some different options.
    The problem is if Surly made a 27.5x4.8 bud and lou it likely wouldn't fit in the Farley or any other production frame for that matter. The diameter would be in the 32" range. In order to increase the width, you'd also need to increase the diameter, so I'm not sure if you will be able to go much wider on the current Trek frames without dropping down to the 26" rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    The problem is if Surly made a 27.5x4.8 bud and lou it likely wouldn't fit in the Farley or any other production frame for that matter. The diameter would be in the 32" range. In order to increase the width, you'd also need to increase the diameter, so I'm not sure if you will be able to go much wider on the current Trek frames without dropping down to the 26" rims.

    I agree 100% i just want a bud an lou that will fit say 27.5x4.25 or something. i am sure my wheels and tires will work fine in most all conditions i ride. i just know that my bud and lou worked great year round without any thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    The problem is if Surly made a 27.5x4.8 bud and lou it likely wouldn't fit in the Farley or any other production frame for that matter. The diameter would be in the 32" range. In order to increase the width, you'd also need to increase the diameter, so I'm not sure if you will be able to go much wider on the current Trek frames without dropping down to the 26" rims.
    I think you are forgetting about the sliding dropouts.... also if a 26X4.8 will fit, then a 27.5 will fit for width but with dropouts further back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crohnsy View Post
    I think you are forgetting about the sliding dropouts.... also if a 26X4.8 will fit, then a 27.5 will fit for width but with dropouts further back...
    Maybe we will get to see when someone makes them!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crohnsy View Post
    I think you are forgetting about the sliding dropouts.... also if a 26X4.8 will fit, then a 27.5 will fit for width but with dropouts further back...
    I realize it has them, but I thought they were in the back position to fit a 26x4.8"? If it will fit the 4.8" with them forward then yes the extra 15mm would give enough to to fit an extra 30mm in diameter, which the 27.5" tire should be about 1.5" bigger (38mm), so it would be pretty close.

    I agree that width shouldn't be an issue, unless the slightly rounder tire shape hits the front of the chainstay or something like on the Framed bikes.

    It it did fit it would likely look like Blackborrows running the giant Snowshoe XXL's as it would have a similar or slightly larger diameter.
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    Added some red bits to the Farley today!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    I realize it has them, but I thought they were in the back position to fit a 26x4.8"? If it will fit the 4.8" with them forward then yes the extra 15mm would give enough to to fit an extra 30mm in diameter, which the 27.5" tire should be about 1.5" bigger (38mm), so it would be pretty close.

    I agree that width shouldn't be an issue, unless the slightly rounder tire shape hits the front of the chainstay or something like on the Framed bikes.

    It it did fit it would likely look like Blackborrows running the giant Snowshoe XXL's as it would have a similar or slightly larger diameter.
    I can confirm that the Barbegazi does fit with the sliders all the way forward, and with a lot of room still! This is how I've had mine since day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschram72 View Post
    I can confirm that the Barbegazi does fit with the sliders all the way forward, and with a lot of room still! This is how I've had mine since day one.
    Yep. 27.5 all the way forward for me too. Max playfull and max rear traction.

    I love coming into technical section of the trail and having the option of either dancing around each rock or just rolling over everything. Decision making is always easier when there is no wrong answer...

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    Bad news for my 9.6:
    Day 5 - great ride, but noticed at 10/12 lbs of pressure (tubeless) that the sides of the front tire will "bottom" out to the rim on hard hit roots/rocks, etc... definitely needed more air, but I am a big dude... so I wouldn't mind going up a pound or two, but not really excited about running them too bouncy..

    Day 6 - After finished up in the dark last night I put the bike away and went to put air in the front tire today. Put 17lbs of pressure in it to see how it behaves. Went to put air in the rear and BAM - rear rim is bent/dented badly. Air was holding, but the bike is back in the shop. Don't know what is going to happen with the rim if it will be replaced, if I will pay, etc.. BUT the bigger issue I have is that I wasn't that hard on them and I don't want a bike that I have to "baby" on the trail... we will see...

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    Tennismike what wheels do you have and which Farley do you have? Thanks

    i see now could not see the farley version on my phone!!! hope they fix you up right and that it was just a bad wheel..
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    Well that illustrates exactly what I've been saying about Treks decision to go with 80mm carbon rims instead of 65mm aluminum (or carbon for that matter). Pretty short sighted, and one reason I went with a 7.
    Sorry to hear if your problem, but it doesn't surprise me in the least. With that shorter sidewall and wide rim, those carbon rims are just waiting to be clouted by a rock.

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    The 9.6 doesn't have carbon wheels...
    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Well that illustrates exactly what I've been saying about Treks decision to go with 80mm carbon rims instead of 65mm aluminum (or carbon for that matter). Pretty short sighted, and one reason I went with a 7.
    Sorry to hear if your problem, but it doesn't surprise me in the least. With that shorter sidewall and wide rim, those carbon rims are just waiting to be clouted by a rock.
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    Yeah you're right, missed that.
    Same thing applies though with regard to rim width and those tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
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    Tad that is a SAHWEET looking machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Yeah you're right, missed that.
    Same thing applies though with regard to rim width and those tires.
    I would counter by saying every rim width has been damaged at one time or another.

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    I agree with you there. I think we'll be seeing more of this.
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    Yeah you're right, missed that.
    Same thing applies though with regard to rim width and those tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I would counter by saying every rim width has been damaged at one time or another.
    Well that's like saying people have died in car accidents even though they had their seat belts on. Sure, but doesn't mean it isn't less likely if a different decision is made.

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    When I find out if I am "paying" for this tomorrow, I will be deciding wether or not I will be switching to 26 inch wheels or perhaps this is an anomaly? The thing is that when demoing the 9.8 I went back after 1 minute in the skills park with the carbon wheel set and had them add more air when I noticed the same thing...
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    I agree with you there. I think we'll be seeing more of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I would counter by saying every rim width has been damaged at one time or another.
    I've been riding 80's with 3.8 tires for years and just have a few dings here and there.
    the 27.5's with 3.8 " don't look all that much different to me--same width, just a little less sidewall height. And since I like to run the 27.5 slightly higher pressure, I feel there isn't any increased risk of rim destruction. I think I'll worry about other stuff when I'm out riding...

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    What I meant, and obviously I did a horrible job saying it, is no matter the width or material it could fail. I wouldn't read much into this failure at all and yes I agree, I'd worry about other stuff as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tennismike View Post
    Bad news for my 9.6:
    Day 5 - great ride, but noticed at 10/12 lbs of pressure (tubeless) that the sides of the front tire will "bottom" out to the rim on hard hit roots/rocks, etc... definitely needed more air, but I am a big dude... so I wouldn't mind going up a pound or two, but not really excited about running them too bouncy..

    Day 6 - After finished up in the dark last night I put the bike away and went to put air in the front tire today. Put 17lbs of pressure in it to see how it behaves. Went to put air in the rear and BAM - rear rim is bent/dented badly. Air was holding, but the bike is back in the shop. Don't know what is going to happen with the rim if it will be replaced, if I will pay, etc.. BUT the bigger issue I have is that I wasn't that hard on them and I don't want a bike that I have to "baby" on the trail... we will see...
    That's a bummer man.

    I have been out a few times on my Farley 5 and have been running my tires around 6 or 7 PSI. 17+ seems high to me? I am 230lb for the record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moshock View Post
    That's a bummer man.

    I have been out a few times on my Farley 5 and have been running my tires around 6 or 7 PSI. 17+ seems high to me? I am 230lb for the record.
    The F5 has bigger tires than the 9.6, no worries, secondly I imagine the guys with Wampa rims are really nervous about it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    What I meant, and obviously I did a horrible job saying it, is no matter the width or material it could fail. I wouldn't read much into this failure at all and yes I agree, I'd worry about other stuff as well.
    You did a fine job, but again it's like saying you can also die if you're wearing a seatbelt. Same difference. I'd also worry about other stuff instead, but it would be easier for me personally with a bit more sidewall and/or rounder profile.

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    Just picked up a '16 Farley 7 - 29.67 lbs bone stock without pedals for size large. I have a 100mm Bluto RCT3 on order for it, but it's back ordered. How would a 120mm Bluto, (which is available) do on it? The build will be pretty aggro with a dropper, shortie stem and all, so maybe it'd be fitting? Share any opinions on how the longer fork would be.

    The bike is gorgeous. I wasn't sure if I *needed* this thing in my life. But now I know I do. #purplepeopleater

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    120mm Bluto

    ""Just picked up a '16 Farley 7 - 29.67 lbs bone stock without pedals for size large. I have a 100mm Bluto RCT3 on order for it, but it's back ordered. How would a 120mm Bluto, (which is available) do on it? The build will be pretty aggro with a dropper, shortie stem and all, so maybe it'd be fitting? Share any opinions on how the longer fork would be. ""


    Kind like this.... A bit "twitchy" at first. Dropped air to 9 and 9.5 in the front. Seems to be fine. May try a 60mm stem. Been having a ball on it!!! I am no pro, just having fun!
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    27.5 Bent Rim update:

    No trek wheelsets or rims available until LATE NOVEMBER....there's always a risk being an early adopter, but a bummer to be sidelined with a $3k bike for more than a month. Not real stoked at the moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by moshock View Post
    That's a bummer man.

    I have been out a few times on my Farley 5 and have been running my tires around 6 or 7 PSI. 17+ seems high to me? I am 230lb for the record.

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    That is a real bummer man, so stoked to have a new bike and can't ride it. Bummer.

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    I went back and reread Tennismike's posts, and I I am not having this experience. I am riding a lot of really tight trails with lots of roots, rocks and stumps, and yesterday at the top of a mountain with a lot of loose bedrock that I went through pretty fast and hard. I went out and looked at my rims, and all is good. There are some pretty good marks on the sidewalls, but the stop at about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way up the sidewall. I could see how any rim could get a strike, given the rock or root is at the right angle, and that the 27.5 would be more likely since it is a shorter sidewall. As for bottoming the rim on hits, I can't say I can focus on the rim and tire when running hard down a little rough trail, but it does not seem like I am anywhere close to bottoming it. I have been running 9 psi in the back and 8 psi in the front.

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    Sorry about the rim Tennis. Big bummer. Maybe it's a good time to get some clownshoes for snow riding?

    The more I look at it, I think I'm l no more likely to hit the rim with the 27.5 as a 26 . I've been using about 10 or 12 pounds, compared to my 26's which I like 8 pounds. The rim is indeed a little closer to the ground, but it's also tucked in a little closer the the wide part of the tire.

    Here's a few pics. The 27 rim is about 3/8" closer to the ground than on my wifes 26 farley.
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    Interesting thoughts on tires and 26 vs 27.5. I just switched from a Farley 6 to a 9.8 and I have gone down in tire pressure if I ran 10/11 on the 26, Im now at 9/9.5 on the 27.5. Im riding same trails, rocks, roots etc no problem. I weigh 200 lbs

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    Trust me, I hope NOBODY has any issues, that I get a new rim and life is grand. The mechanic that I trust at the LBS brought up a good point. The sidewall and tire is a bit soft for me, so perhaps when 45NRTH or somebody make another tire choice that will be the answer for me. Until then, my plan is get a new rim (sometime), up the pressure and potentially put my tubes back in. On a side note they also have a broken carbon rim in the shop from a 9.8... certainly doesn't mean anything, but it means there is some other dude who paid a chunk of change who is also sidelined.
    Quote Originally Posted by sowleman View Post
    Interesting thoughts on tires and 26 vs 27.5. I just switched from a Farley 6 to a 9.8 and I have gone down in tire pressure if I ran 10/11 on the 26, Im now at 9/9.5 on the 27.5. Im riding same trails, rocks, roots etc no problem. I weigh 200 lbs

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    Sucks to have a new bike sidelined- I was there last winter with my Fatboy and the rear hub. I worried about it even after it was fixed, and ended up buying a better hub to replace it, just so I could fix it myself if needed and not have to to wait for parts at the LBS.

    Instead of missing the best part of the riding season in MN, you could consider picking up a set of 26" rims and tires. Used sets pop up from time to time in the classifieds, Craigslist, and Fatbike trader on FB. If you have the cash- the DT Swiss BR 2250 wheelset can be found in the $700+duty range on the Euro sites and is actually a few hundred grams lighter than the 9.8 wheels. Grab a set of aggressive 4.8's and you'll be set to tear up some leaf and snow covered trails.

    If if you think this may be a reoccurring issue, or will have to run compromises like higher psi or tubes to prevent it; you may want to consider 26x4.8 anyway. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of riders who will buy your 27.5" wheels if you decided to sell them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Well that illustrates exactly what I've been saying about Treks decision to go with 80mm carbon rims instead of 65mm aluminum (or carbon for that matter). Pretty short sighted, and one reason I went with a 7.
    Sorry to hear if your problem, but it doesn't surprise me in the least. With that shorter sidewall and wide rim, those carbon rims are just waiting to be clouted by a rock.
    Yup, remember all the flak we got for saying so back in June.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    If you have the cash- the DT Swiss BR 2250 wheelset can be found in the $700+duty range on the Euro sites and is actually a few hundred grams lighter than the 9.8 wheels. Grab a set of aggressive 4.8's and you'll be set to tear up some leaf and snow covered trails. .
    I am considering this same thing for my 9.6. Can someone point me to the specifics that I should get. I understand that it is a matter of personal preference, but does someone put out a wheel set up for my bike? I was thinking about putting a set of Dillinger 5 studded on them for the winter and using my 27.5 for the summer. I would like to go wider for winter, but it does not seem like there are many options. Is the saran wrap tubeless the best way to go with this setup?

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    Ok, I will try and answer my own question as a starting point:


    DT Swiss 2250 Front Wheel $413
    DT Swiss Rear Wheel $511
    2ea Snowshoe XL 4.8 Studded $276


    Any problem with my selection? It seems like it will fit, but I am a bit nervous on a purchase this big. Any feedback is appreciated. I could not find any euro sites as mentioned, but I compared with Ebay and this seems like reasonable pricing. I think the rims I listed are 80mm. Should I be looking at 100mm?

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    The snowshoe aren't the best for snow, to say the least... The dillinger are way better, and $$$ but the value is there.

    The wheels are 80mm and are the best before you go carbon. (in fact, if you would get this rim as original on your bike, it wouldn't worth to go to carbon). Depending on your weight, you should be ok with 80mm.

    As for clingwrap, it is the thing, point! ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrogersAK View Post
    I am considering this same thing for my 9.6. Can someone point me to the specifics that I should get. I understand that it is a matter of personal preference, but does someone put out a wheel set up for my bike? I was thinking about putting a set of Dillinger 5 studded on them for the winter and using my 27.5 for the summer. I would like to go wider for winter, but it does not seem like there are many options. Is the saran wrap tubeless the best way to go with this setup?
    Bike-discount.de has the best price I have seen, but they are out of stock. DT Swiss BR 2250 Classic 26" Fatbike Wheelset Disc CL | Wheel 26" Sets Shop. The price varies with the Euro-Dollar swing, but is generally significantly lower than the prices you list.

    Shrink wrap tubeless works very well with this rim type. Other options are in this thread: http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/dt-...im-961462.html

    D5's are fast rolling, but don't grip as well for the deep stuff. I just bought a set of Snowshoe XL's and will be testing them out this winter http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/bud...-a-938358.html
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    Thank you for the details. The whole shrink wrap thing seems like it could be an issue. When i look at carbon wheels (ICAN) the 90mm ones are about the same weight as well as the same price as the DT Swiss wheels, and I don't have to deal with the holes to go tubeless. I assume that the difference would be in the quality of the product? Any other downsides to the carbon wheels?

    Amazon.com : ICAN Fat Tire Clincher Carbon Wheelset 26er 90mm Compatible Tubeless 32/32h Black Powerway Hub 135/197mm : Sports & Outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrogersAK View Post
    Thank you for the details. The whole shrink wrap thing seems like it could be an issue. When i look at carbon wheels (ICAN) the 90mm ones are about the same weight as well as the same price as the DT Swiss wheels, and I don't have to deal with the holes to go tubeless. I assume that the difference would be in the quality of the product? Any other downsides to the carbon wheels?

    Amazon.com : ICAN Fat Tire Clincher Carbon Wheelset 26er 90mm Compatible Tubeless 32/32h Black Powerway Hub 135/197mm : Sports & Outdoors
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    So I would need this:

    http://www.amazon.com/ICAN-Clincher-...eelset+150+190

    for the Farley 9.6? Hopefully I can get it without the red hubs... Any comments on how this compares with the DT Swiss 2250?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrogersAK View Post
    So I would need this:

    http://www.amazon.com/ICAN-Clincher-...eelset+150+190

    for the Farley 9.6? Hopefully I can get it without the red hubs... Any comments on how this compares with the DT Swiss 2250?
    Those wheels have a Shimano freehub and will need a XD freehub to work with the XD cassette on your 9.6.

    To compare the two- The ICAN's are a lower end carbon wheel with cheaper hubs, I don't have any direct experience with them, so not sure how they work long term. There is some feedback in this thread: http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/ica...ms-924107.html

    The DT Swiss are a mid level aluminum wheel/hub. My friend owns a set and loves them. I had a set of them briefly that I sold to buy my Bucksaw. They were very well made and weighed slightly less than the quoted weights. Tubeless with shrink wrap is pretty straightforward.
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    And so it begins....

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    I measured the 27.5" hodag, and the bead to bead was 215mm. This is somewhat less than most 3.8" tires. I think that these tires would work well on 50mm wide rims.

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    Hi all, new to the forum.
    I just test rode the Farley 9 and the Farley 9.8.

    I like the 9 for the Bluto up front and the 9.8 for all of the carbon in its glory.

    I am torn between the two.

    I plan on riding this thing year round. Not sure if that is what will actually happen though.

    Anyone of you with the new Farley's plan on riding year round?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    Hi all, new to the forum.
    I just test rode the Farley 9 and the Farley 9.8.

    I like the 9 for the Bluto up front and the 9.8 for all of the carbon in its glory.

    I am torn between the two.

    I plan on riding this thing year round. Not sure if that is what will actually happen though.

    Anyone of you with the new Farley's plan on riding year round?
    I have the 9.8 and will ride it year round. I have had it 3 weeks today have around 300 miles mixed gravel and trail. i see the benefit of the bluto and may get one next year but i am a fan of rigid as well.

    either bike you decide on will be lots of fun i am sure of it.

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    Well I was on my way up north for some bow hunting and the LBS called me to let me know the 9.8 was in. So I picked it up!

    This thing is so light, it is sick!

    I stuffed into the back of my Jeep and now I want to go ride the Big M!
    (After I get a deer)2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-img_2118.jpg

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    Pfff! Just go ride and forget about shooting things.

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    Big M that sounds like a great first ride!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    Hi all, new to the forum.
    I just test rode the Farley 9 and the Farley 9.8.

    I like the 9 for the Bluto up front and the 9.8 for all of the carbon in its glory.

    I am torn between the two.

    I plan on riding this thing year round. Not sure if that is what will actually happen though.

    Anyone of you with the new Farley's plan on riding year round?
    I got the 9 and also plan on riding it year round. I have slick honey that should make the bluto viable in cold temperatures, and I'm looking at building another wheelset with 26 x 4.8 tires for the winter.

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    So Stoked! Just got word that my Farley 7 is shipping today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14 View Post
    So Stoked! Just got word that my Farley 7 is shipping today!
    The more I look at that purple Machine the more I want one.
    :thumbsup:It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    The more I look at that purple Machine the more I want one.
    Got mine Monday...Pics don't do this bike justice...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenz View Post
    Got mine Monday...Pics don't do this bike justice...

    Shop right down the road has one. It is 2 pounds lighter than the X7 Bear grease.
    :thumbsup:It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    My post from another thread. We'll see if I own the 7 on Monday.


    New guy here. I know nothing about fat bikes other than reading all 22 pages of the 2016 Trek Farley thread. TWICE. And this thread once.

    Currently riding a Trek 8.4 DS and looking for a winter bike.

    I am very close to pulling the trigger on a Farely 7 but 75% of my miles will be commuting (5 miles one way, up hill both ways, literally) in the winter and 25% on a Minnesota MBT with whatever snow conditions that brings with it.

    Nervous as a long tailed cat in a rocking chair store that the 4.8" tires are going to be too big for my purpose.

    Can a narrower tire (4"?) be mounted on the 80 mm rim?

    Going to test ride it Monday so that should help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_G View Post
    My post from another thread. We'll see if I own the 7 on Monday.


    New guy here. I know nothing about fat bikes other than reading all 22 pages of the 2016 Trek Farley thread. TWICE. And this thread once.

    Currently riding a Trek 8.4 DS and looking for a winter bike.

    I am very close to pulling the trigger on a Farely 7 but 75% of my miles will be commuting (5 miles one way, up hill both ways, literally) in the winter and 25% on a Minnesota MBT with whatever snow conditions that brings with it.

    Nervous as a long tailed cat in a rocking chair store that the 4.8" tires are going to be too big for my purpose.

    Can a narrower tire (4"?) be mounted on the 80 mm rim?

    Going to test ride it Monday so that should help.
    We answered your question in that other thread yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenz View Post
    Got mine Monday...Pics don't do this bike justice...

    Beautiful! Can't wait to get mine.
    Oh and Cannondale, although not the shortest stays on the market, this at minimum is what a short-stay fat bike looks like - dummies.

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    Yessir. Since I may be purchasing the bike I thought I would add to the 21 pages.

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    Just picked up my 9, ended up coming a month early. Looks sick can't wait to take it for a long ride tomorrow. Only thing I need to do is air up the fork, I forgot to have my LBS take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    Hi all, new to the forum.
    I just test rode the Farley 9 and the Farley 9.8.

    I like the 9 for the Bluto up front and the 9.8 for all of the carbon in its glory.

    I am torn between the two.

    I plan on riding this thing year round. Not sure if that is what will actually happen though.

    Anyone of you with the new Farley's plan on riding year round?
    Simple decision. Get the 9.8 and buy an after market bluto. I've seen them for $450. Problem solved. If you get the 9 now, you are gonna want to upgrade to carbon frame later on. Avoid all that and get the 9.8 and slap a bluto on there if its in your budget.

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    2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-image.jpg

    Will take more pictures on my ride tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    Hi all, new to the forum.
    I just test rode the Farley 9 and the Farley 9.8.

    I like the 9 for the Bluto up front and the 9.8 for all of the carbon in its glory.

    I am torn between the two.

    I plan on riding this thing year round. Not sure if that is what will actually happen though.

    Anyone of you with the new Farley's plan on riding year round?
    I went with the 9.8, hoping theres more than just the Bluto for options come spring time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    Well I was on my way up north for some bow hunting and the LBS called me to let me know the 9.8 was in. So I picked it up!

    This thing is so light, it is sick!

    I stuffed into the back of my Jeep and now I want to go ride the Big M!
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    And back home for some evening Bow hunting.

    I might be hanging up the 29er and making this my main bike.
    I will have to get it on some single track.
    More specifically "Torn Shirt".2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-backhome.jpg

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    It is great in single track I have been racking up the miles on the poto and the bike handles is very well!!!

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    Nice!
    The poto is next on the list! Love that place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Simple decision. Get the 9.8 and buy an after market bluto. I've seen them for $450. Problem solved. If you get the 9 now, you are gonna want to upgrade to carbon frame later on. Avoid all that and get the 9.8 and slap a bluto on there if its in your budget.

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    I had been agonizing between a 9, 9.6 and 9.8. My LBS has a 9.8 and I rode it. Yeah, it was more than I wanted to spend. But it needs zero modifications for what I want to do with it (other than tire studs, but that applies to any bike). Looking at all that, it was only a few hundred dollars more.

    So I picked it up yesterday and rode it today. Wallet pain yesterday, glad I did it today and I'll be glad in the future since this is such a great bike. The bike is quick, rides like a dream and is silly light. I'll put a suspension fork on it in the spring - don't need or want it for the winter here in Minnesota for snow riding.

    The 9.8 is probably everything I would have ever wanted in a fatbike and adding the fork would just not be a big deal and worth it.

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    I test rode and bought the Farley 7 today. I plan to use it to commute in the winter and ride the mountain bike trails.

    I rode it 20 miles today, 8 of which were on a MBT with fast sections, big elevation changes (slow uphills, fast downhills with burms etc) and some tight twisty woods sections with obstacles.

    Keep in mind I don't even have a true mountain bike (Trek 8.4 Dual Sport) and have never ridden a fat bike. I do however like to go fast and hold my own in the trails.

    Initial thoughts from a complete newbie.......

    LBS put 20 PSI in the tires which I realize is too much but that's my starting point.

    1. Sorry but I hate the color. To me it's worse in person than the pictures. The blue lettering is hideous. I am a function over fashion guy so it's irrelevant. YMMV

    2. The tires are comically big. (again, new guy here)

    3. It feels very, very light. Lighter than my Trek 8.4 DS. I was very surprised. The front end is very light and comes up WAY easier than my DS.

    4. When pedal speed gets high the bike starts bouncing badly. Very annoying. Shift into a higher gear and it goes away. I got used to shifting at the right point and was able to come close to eliminating it. The tires hum very loudly.

    5. I was worried about the 11 speed drive train but there is plenty of gear on top and the bottom for anything I've ridden. Never longed for a different gear. The tall gear is plenty and I never needed 1st or 2nd. Maybe I'll need the super low gears for snow?

    6. It feels slower on pavement but according to Strava it's not significantly slower than my DS. Perfectly acceptable for my 5 mile commute.

    7. I took it easy in the mountain bike trails to get a feel for the handling etc. It is VERY easy to ride. I don't know what "self steer" is but this thing turns very easily and it's point and shoot in the tight sections. It's extremely stable over bumps and obstacles. To my surprise when I checked my Strava I set 5 personal records. It felt slower but clearly is not.

    8. Better clearance Clarence. I did not measure but places my front chain ring or pedals would hit on logs etc on the DS the fatty cleared easily.

    9. Handle bars seem unnecessarily wide. It steers so easy I think the wide bars are overkill. The trails I ride have some very tight sections and the bars barely fit through the trees. Anyone cut their bars down?

    Overall it's more money than I wanted to spend on a bike but I can see a lot of smiles in my future.

    Jeff_G

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    Great review Jeff, thanks for taking the time to type it.
    Yes 20psi was way, WAY too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Schafer View Post
    I'm torn. I've got $200 down on a Farley 7. The more I think I'd like the 9.6 carbon and weight savings. However I'd prefer the 26x5 tire/wheel combination the 7 offers for Michigan. Idk
    I bought a set of DT Swiss BR2250s to go with my Farley 9.6. Planning to use the 27.5 Hodags on dirt and 26 Dillinger 5s on snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmf003 View Post
    I bought a set of DT Swiss BR2250s to go with my Farley 9.6. Planning to use the 27.5 Hodags on dirt and 26 Dillinger 5s on snow.
    I have a set on order for my 9.6.... looks like they won't be here until late November. Did you convert your BR2250's to tubeless yet - if so - how'd it go?

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    Quick updates:

    1. I love the fact that you can downshift three gears with one lever throw.

    2. I have a 900 foot drop over 1/2 mile on my commute and found the high gear lacking. But, I was doing over 25 mph so good enough....

    3. Riding Fat added less than 15% to my commute time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMattyT View Post
    I have a set on order for my 9.6.... looks like they won't be here until late November. Did you convert your BR2250's to tubeless yet - if so - how'd it go?
    Oops. Answered the wrong question. Yes, I did set up the BR2250s tubeless. Used the DT Swiss rim strips and wide Stans tape. Getting the tire beads to catch was a lot of work. Other than that it was straight forward.

    The Jackalopes, on the other hand, were super easy. Wheels came pre-taped. Rim design made it very easy to remount the tires and set the bead.
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    Hi,

    Does anyone know of a way of fitting 165mm crank arms to a Farley 5 (2016)?

    I'm guessing I would need a new crank & bottom bracket, but am very confused about what specs I should be looking at, so guidance on this would also be very useful.

    Would like to stay with a 2x setup.

    Thanks

    (P.S. I'm UK based, if it matters)

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    Buy new cranks... Go to your lbs and tell them you need new 165mm cranks installed. Pick your choice of what's available, SRAM, race face.. Your shop will install them and you ride off into the sunset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crohnsy View Post
    Buy new cranks...
    Thanks

    I was hoping that someone might know which manufacturer / series of cranks might be compatible, as I have not managed to find anything so far, and it seems there are a few pitfalls to avoid.

    Ideally the R-F Rides (that are fitted now) would be available in 165mm, so it would just be a case of swapping the chainrings over and slotting the new cranks into the BB, but they aren't available in 165mm. Neither are NEXT SL, TURBINE CINCH, TURBINE or AEFFECT.

    RESPOND & CHESTER are available in 165mm, but I can't find any with a 190mm spindle. They are listed with a 100mm BB on the R-F website, but I think this is with a 170mm spindle, and am unsure of achieving the correct q factor (am I right in looking for ~220mm?)

    SRAM don't seem to do 165mm cranks other than for the DH stuff which isn't available in fat bike widths (as far as I can tell).

    I couldn't find anything by E*thirteen or Truvativ, either.

    I'm not expacting anyone to do my research for me, but if they happened to *know*, I'd be grateful.

    It seems I'm looking for something that doesn't exist, though

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    ti can be done

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    My lbs figured out how to fit the NEXT SL on my F5 Frame.

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    My lbs figured out how to fit the NEXT SL on my F5 Frame.
    Excited ! I've my Farley 5 due into my LBS in a week. Can't wait! For once I'm actually hoping for the worst winter ever this year in the UK. Are you running the stock fork on this or going for something different? I may look at getting a carbon one at some point and just wondering what to go for. Considering one of the On-One (Planet X) carbon forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FT251 View Post
    My lbs figured out how to fit the NEXT SL on my F5 Frame.
    Very nice! Are those 165mm long cranks? I couldn't find them listed on the Race Face site.

    (Then there's the small matter of budget - Ideally I'm looking to keep under £150/ $200 )

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    170 mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by FT251 View Post
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    Ahh, thanks.

    There are quite a few options for 170 (which I could, sort of, live with), but my knees much prefer 165.

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    Got my 7 today.


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    I'm in love with my 7, added a bluto and it swallows everything. Looking fwd to next year, if evolution is on my side, and Trek release fs fatbikes, then I will replace my fuel, even though i love that one as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_G View Post
    7. I took it easy in the mountain bike trails to get a feel for the handling etc. It is VERY easy to ride. I don't know what "self steer" is but this thing turns very easily and it's point and shoot in the tight sections. It's extremely stable over bumps and obstacles. To my surprise when I checked my Strava I set 5 personal records. It felt slower but clearly is not.
    You'll generally feel more self steer the lower the tyre pressure so if you're at 20psi you'll definitely not be experiencing that The tyre pressure can make quite a difference on a fat bike particularly a rigid but there's no one answer to what is best as it's what suits, where you're riding etc. so you just need to experiment and see what works for you. I initially tried to avoid pressures that gave me self steer but a fat bike veteran dropped my pressures quite a bit lower where there was noticeable self steer but I've just got used to it and find the bike works better for me in terms of the smoothness of the ride (wrists were having a hard time initially) and amount of grip.

    I've been surprised how fast my Farley 6 can be, I find it's well suited to natural rooty trails as the fat bike can power over the roots with ease and through the mud whereas on the Fuel I'd be losing a bit of speed to the suspension and traction. On downhill sections I have so much more confidence with the huge tyres that I've been able to go faster than my full suspension bike and even on some uphill sections thanks to being able to put power down and still get grip where the FS would be slipping.

    Aside from anything else, I just find it a lot of fun to ride as there's sections I've always dreaded on the FS bike as they were loose and slippy but I look forward to them on the fat bike. Also now coming into winter instead of dreading the slippy dark nights, I'm looking forward to keeping on going as I know the Farley will make easy work of the tough conditions. Plus it's nice to know when the bike is caked in mud and grime that there's no fancy suspension and bearings under there I'm trashing.

    Hope you get as much fun out of your Farley as I've had mine, definitely been one of my best purchases.

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    Tnx, John.
    I have the same feeling and experience with some of the crux parts ive been riding with both fs and my farley. It's a fantastic bike, no doubt!
    On bumpy trails, as in parts that on a fs floats, low tire pressure helps, but not enough imo. The bluto saves my wrists (lifelong damage), so that part of the old body is taken care of
    Have positive exp on lowering the reverb (an inch or so) on my fs on those bumpy parts, so im counting the bux the get me one for my 7...
    Looking fwd to the winter, bumpy snow mobile tracks

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    Btw, i replaced the stem. From 70mm to 50 (from slash). Quicker response

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    So whats the consensus on the new Jackelope 27.5 wheels with tubeless Hodags? How you guys liking them? how do they feel? Looks like i found me a set of takes offs for my F5 build. I've been real happy with the 26 inch Jackelopes currently on my F6 set up tubeless with hodags. Will be converting those to fatter tires for winter and use the 27.5 x 3.8's for summer along with a bluto fork. I was going to just use a faster 26 inch tire but feel the 27.5 wheels may be a bit nicer with the newer frame. Thanks for the feedback!

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    SO.......what were your impressions?

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    That Farley 7 purple sure is sweet looking. Is it just as good in person?

    I'm liking the geometry of the Farley. It looks to be a nice mix of modern trail geometry applied to a fat bike. Are people feeling like the sizing is relatively normal? I ask because I ride a 21.5 or XL Slash 9 but am thinking a 19.5 Farley would be the right size for me.

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    I am 5' 11" and have the 19. I like it!


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    5"12, have the 19.
    I do not like it, i LOVE it!

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    So potentially similar Trek sizing. I'm 6'1" but with a wingspan of 6'3.5" hence straddling the size line of 19.5 to 21.5 or L to XL.

    For a fat bike I like having every bit of stand over I can get. I'm going to go do some test riding today.

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    Bring your wallet! You will be making a purchase!


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    Ha, yes I am prepared.

    Also have wife approval. She started this quest when she got her sweet Borealis Yampa making me realize that my 2011 Pugsley needed some serious upgrades or just a bike upgrade to maintain some parity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    It is great in single track I have been racking up the miles on the poto and the bike handles is very well!!!
    I'm thinking about running the Poto tomorrow.


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    Rode the poto last two days it is in great condition!!!

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    How many lbs of tire pressure are you running?


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    I am at about 10-12 but i am a little larger than average

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    Quick update on my Farley 5 1x conversion (simple 30t chainring): very easy once I sourced an ISIS crank removal tool at the LBS in order to get the inner ring off. The 30x 11-36 is fine for my local trails, where I essentially need the lower six cogs. Next will be an XT 11-42 cassette once the ring/cogs & chain need replacing. I also fitted a Zee shifter, which has de-cluttered the bars a lot and gotten rid of those useless shifter windows on the OEM Deore kit. This has left the front derailleur internal cable routing ports open, which I've temporarily taped up. Possibly routing the rear brake line through there with a 90 degree banjo in the future to clean up the cabling further.

    The best benefits have been a weight saving of ~ 400 g as per the digital kitchen scales but the removal of the front derailleur has allowed full use of the Stranglehold dropouts in their foremost position. Wow: this has really made the bike a lot more playful and an absolute ball in singletrack! The rear end really follows the front a lot more closely, it's easiler to pop a wheelie over small bumps and the rear tracks up & over steps far more easily when climbing. For the cost of a single chainring (OK, and twenty bucks for a tool for my workshop), the handling has been improved a hundred per cent, as well as knocking almost a pound off and tidying up the bars. Highly recommended for all F5 riders

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    First off let me apologize for the long post.

    I am a new member to this forum and a new owner of a Trek Farley 9.6 that I just got last Thursday. I have been reading this thread in anticipation of learning more about these new Farley’s and when folks were starting to receive them. I order mine back in Sept. and was told it would most likely arrive mid November sometime. Well I was definitely pleasantly surprised to get it a couple of weeks early.

    This is my first foretay into fat bikes, however during my trip to Maine last year I got a chance to ride a fatboy around for a bit and was instantly hooked. Having a hard tail mountain bike for years I was really wanting to try out a full suspension bike. I ended up purchasing a Salsa Horsetheif for my oldest son and decided I was an expert rider after several weeks out on it only to crash pretty badly in a rock garden on a local trail. Lesson learned, I realized my body isn’t as young as my mind thought.

    I wanted something with the bigger wheels after riding a 29” bike. I knew how well bigger wheels roll over obstacles, and in my mind I am like wider tires would also help in this regard. So here we are, my first fat bike, and to be honest after only riding it for the past three days I can tell it will become my favorite. I purchased the Trek due to its somewhat future proofing of a system, that and a carbon frame to help keep weight down.

    Right out of the store my bike is weighing in at 29lbs, which is higher than I expected, however I don’t have it setup tubeless just yet, thats coming. I also am swapping out the amazingly wide handlebars with a carbon riser bar along with carbon seat post, lighter saddle and new pedals. Hopefully without too much more money I can bring it down to 27lbs or better. Cost wise I wonder if just going for the 9.8 would of been better – I guess I will find out as I make upgrades. Thanks to this thread I have gotten a lot of ideas on what parts to look at for weight savings, especially the Xpedo Spry pedals Amazon.com : Xpedo Spry Platform Pedal White : Bike Pedals : Sports & Outdoors, which appear to be some of the lightest platforms that exist.

    I know my time on a fat bike has been short to date, however I must say that imo these are the perfect bikes for us older folks. Being in my forties, and realizing that I can’t jump a bike like I used to – let me rephrase that, I can’t land a bike like I used to – these bikes provide the fun and stability to tackle any terrain, and damn it, they just look cool doing it!

    Thanks for reading, and I will continue to post updates as I get more mileage in.

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    If you're looking into the Farley 5, and wanting a 1x drivetrain, I would suggest taking another look at the 7. The Farley 7 and above all have a much narrower 1x specific crank setup that decreases q factor by 20mm. This is huge!

    The other upgrades that the 7 has over the 5 (carbon fork, 11 speed rear sram setup, DB3 brakes) are nice, but the fact that it has a narrower q factor is reason enough to look past the 5.

    That being said, you could swap out the stock 5 crank for a race face Aeffect crankset to get the same q factor of the 7.

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    Thats my plan!

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    This bike is a blast. I was happy to have flats today on the trails, was going a little to quick and needed to put a foot down quick. If anyone is not sure about the 9, you will not be disappointed.

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    I dropped by a LBS today and the 7 is very nice in person. Thing is that it's grossly overpriced for what you're going to get (not sure about US pricing but here in Canada it's $2900. You can get a Felt DD10 w/ Bluto for $500 more and the Bluto here retails for $800+)

    Time to consider other brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadraper View Post
    I am at about 10-12 but i am a little larger than average
    I ran the poto with 10 lbs front and rear.
    I cut over 20 min off of my best time with my 29er!

    Can't get the grin off of my face knowing this is going to be my year round bike!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    I ran the poto with 10 lbs front and rear.
    I cut over 20 min off of my best time with my 29er!

    Can't get the grin off of my face knowing this is going to be my year round bike!

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    you had a great weather day for being out there!! Nice job on the time drop.. it is a great bike..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KantoBoy View Post
    I dropped by a LBS today and the 7 is very nice in person. Thing is that it's grossly overpriced for what you're going to get (not sure about US pricing but here in Canada it's $2900. You can get a Felt DD10 w/ Bluto for $500 more and the Bluto here retails for $800+)

    Time to consider other brands
    $2200 here. By far one of the best, most versatile
    offerings by any company right now. Given the
    upgrades over the 5, the 5 just didn't make
    sense for me. It just needed different brakes.
    I purchased a set of 2016 XT brakes with IT rotors.
    Now it will ready to rock.

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    US MSRP is $2399. Pretty good deal for us even at sticker.

    I didn't get to ride one yet. Maybe tomorrow. House maintenance has been taking my time minus one great ride on the trail bike.

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    It's worth it to look around for a deal on a 7 in Canada. I just ordered one from my LBS for $2500 CAD (~$1900 USD). Can hardly wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KantoBoy View Post
    I dropped by a LBS today and the 7 is very nice in person. Thing is that it's grossly overpriced for what you're going to get (not sure about US pricing but here in Canada it's $2900. You can get a Felt DD10 w/ Bluto for $500 more and the Bluto here retails for $800+)

    Time to consider other brands
    Norco sasquatch 6.2 rigid is basically the same spec for $600 cheaper than the farley 7. Should be arriving in shops any minute

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    Well, my Farley 7 got delivered last week while on vacation, went in to build it today, and I sliced my finger open while spinning the wheel/rotor to tune the brakes. Pretty bad, cut all the way through my finger nail into my nail bed, and was bleeding through my finger nail.

    So I never got to finish it, its just sitting in my living room sad 85% assembled. And now I cant even ride it this week and take advantage of super nice weather I have here.

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    2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-imageuploadedbytapatalk1446431985.506074.jpg

    Threw a bluto on my 7. Fun so far, no real trail riding yet though.

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    Threw a bluto on my 7. Fun so far, no real trail riding yet though.
    Looks great. I'll be up to the same shenanigans tomorrow if my new crown race arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmayer View Post
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    Threw a bluto on my 7. Fun so far, no real trail riding yet though.
    Tubeless? Also how wide are the barbagazi in reality? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14 View Post
    Well, my Farley 7 got delivered last week while on vacation, went in to build it today, and I sliced my finger open while spinning the wheel/rotor to tune the brakes. Pretty bad, cut all the way through my finger nail into my nail bed, and was bleeding through my finger nail.

    So I never got to finish it, its just sitting in my living room sad 85% assembled. And now I cant even ride it this week and take advantage of super nice weather I have here.
    My God. I did the same thing tuning my Unit.
    I feel your pain brother!

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    Threw a bluto on my 7. Fun so far, no real trail riding yet though.
    I just brought home my 7 yesterday.
    Anything special needed to install a Bluto?
    Do I need a new headset?

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    No, just the crown race which can be switched
    from the stock fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    No, just the crown race which can be switched
    from the stock fork.
    Thanks.
    I will probably just buy one to install on the Bluto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FT251 View Post
    Also how wide are the barbagazi in reality?
    Mine measured about 115mm / 4.5" across the knobs on the 80mm Mulefuts @ ~~10PSI. Just added this to the 'True tire size' thread.

    (Set up tubeless very easily, too, but only saved 200g / wheel after adding 160cc of Stan's)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterg View Post
    Mine measured about 115mm / 4.5" across the knobs on the 80mm Mulefuts @ ~~10PSI. Just added this to the 'True tire size' thread.

    (Set up tubeless very easily, too, but only saved 200g / wheel after adding 160cc of Stan's)
    Less than that if you carry a spare tube for emergencies

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    The stock tubes were ~440g , so I can go tubeless, and carry a spare tube without any weight penalty. More importantly, I can ride my local trails without worrying about thorn punctures!

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    No tubless yet - waiting for rim tape to come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FT251 View Post
    So whats the consensus on the new Jackelope 27.5 wheels with tubeless Hodags? How you guys liking them? how do they feel?....
    I have a handful of rides on the Jackalope + Hodags but today was the first day I could get to an advanced trail: Torn Shirt at Michigan's Brighton Recreation Area. It's tight and twisty, a sand/gravel surface with a lot of roots and some rocks, the climbs are short but steep with little chance to carry momentum from the previous downhill.

    I ran the tires tubeless with 12 psi rear and 10 psi front, which seems to be a good pressure for me (235 lbs) on dirt.

    The Hodags really performed well on that trail. Nice balance of good traction (on climbs, in corners and on roots) and good straight line speed (rolling resistance seemed low). I found the handling to be very predictable and railed through every corner.

    The tires also did well over the numerous rooty sections of trail. I have a 9.6, so my only suspension was the tires and my arms and legs, and had no issues managing the bumps at speed.

    The only down-side was the wheel-tire weight: I could feel it on every climb but on a more flowy trail (e.g. Brighton Rec's Murray Lake) it was much less of an issue.

    I'm real happy with the setup and will definitely keep it and use it as my my dirt trail setup.

    HTH....

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    Last winter I was riding a blizzard with 4.8" tires. I'm currently waiting for my Farley 9.8, but also geting nervous about riding 3.8 tire in the Canadian winter. I think I should not see much difference in tired. I'm 225lbs with gear so it may not be the fault of the tires if I dig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmayer View Post
    No tubless yet - waiting for rim tape to come in.
    FWIW: I used 4" wide duct tape. (Actually "100mm wide Scapa 3122 Heavy Duty Waterproof Tape").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmf003 View Post
    I have a handful of rides on the Jackalope + Hodags but today was the first day I could get to an advanced trail: Torn Shirt at Michigan's Brighton Recreation Area. It's tight and twisty, a sand/gravel surface with a lot of roots and some rocks, the climbs are short but steep with little chance to carry momentum from the previous downhill.

    I ran the tires tubeless with 12 psi rear and 10 psi front, which seems to be a good pressure for me (235 lbs) on dirt.

    The Hodags really performed well on that trail. Nice balance of good traction (on climbs, in corners and on roots) and good straight line speed (rolling resistance seemed low). I found the handling to be very predictable and railed through every corner.

    The tires also did well over the numerous rooty sections of trail. I have a 9.6, so my only suspension was the tires and my arms and legs, and had no issues managing the bumps at speed.

    The only down-side was the wheel-tire weight: I could feel it on every climb but on a more flowy trail (e.g. Brighton Rec's Murray Lake) it was much less of an issue.

    I'm real happy with the setup and will definitely keep it and use it as my my dirt trail setup.

    HTH....
    I live close to Brighton Rec, but haven't had a chance to get my 9.8 out there yet. Maybe tomorrow during my lunch break!

    My lunch rides consist of either Island Lake or Brighton.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain2 View Post
    Last winter I was riding a blizzard with 4.8" tires. I'm currently waiting for my Farley 9.8, but also geting nervous about riding 3.8 tire in the Canadian winter. I think I should not see much difference in tired. I'm 225lbs with gear so it may not be the fault of the tires if I dig.
    I can almost guarantee some manufacturer will come out with a 4.8x27.5 before too long.

    However, they might not fit on the front if the bike has a Bluto.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    I live close to Brighton Rec, but haven't had a chance to get my 9.8 out there yet. Maybe tomorrow during my lunch break!

    My lunch rides consist of either Island Lake or Brighton.

    That's a good lunch ride! Especially on your new 9.8!!

    There are a couple of local fat bike rides coming up: the Global Fat Bike Day ride at Island Lake (https://www.facebook.com/events/590292107780115/) and the Abominable Snow Ride at Poto (2015 Abominable Snowman Ride – December 13th at Noon! | Poto MBA). Come on out with your 9.8!

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    Thanks! I had no idea! I will make it a point to be there!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LunchRider View Post
    Thanks! I had no idea! I will make it a point to be there!


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    Great! I'll be at both events. If I don't manage to say hi to you first feel free to send a hello my way if you happen to see me. I'll be the gray haired Clydesdale wearing a Wheels in Motion jersey.

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    Cool, I will be the only one dressed in a goretex duck hunting jacket and pants!


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    2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-image.jpgHi all, just joined and just started Fat Bike riding. Farley 5. I'm a road guy who decided I need to have an open relationship with my skinny tires. Did the first few rides this weekend, woods Saturday beach Sunday. Loving it so far!

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