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    New Bike Day Killer 24_Early Rider T24

    Got my son his first REAL mountian bike. An Early Rider 24 hard tail. Im impressed with the build on these.

    Those 160 mm discs are sure as hell going to stop him!!

    Its currently coming in at 24.5 lbs, but a swap out of the NX derailleur and cassete should save 220 grams or so. Changing out the Maxxis Snyper tires for a set of Schwalbe Rocket Rons should get us another 300 grams. Setting it up tubeless might save us another few grams.


    The bars are Ritchie aluminum. Not really sure Carbon is going to save much there.

    More pictures to come with details and weights.

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    Starting weight. Lets see what we save with new tires, cassete and derailleur.

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    I like the look of that bike! Beauty! Since your spending money you'll want to swap the cranks out for some proper 140mm. Trailcraft has some pretty light direct mount cranks for 160$ that come with a chainring of your choice (go 28t over 32t for sure) and also a bottom bracket. You'll drop decent weight, it'll fit much better and it'll pedal better too with smaller ring. I'd prob do that over the cassette as it's a wear item (it is heavy as well) if you had to choose.

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    Thanks.

    The cassette and derailleur arent really costing anything. We are going to go with an XT cassette and upgrade to a GX derailleur. Both will save weight.

    Looking into the Trailcraft cranks. The ones on the bike are currently 155mm vs 140mm for the Trailcraft.

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    Swapped over a GX derailleur, an XTR rear cassette and added GripShift. Saved around 1/2 pound (300 or so grams) in the process.

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    Nice. Swapping out the wheels, tires, and NX cranks (super heavy) and those heavy brakes for lighter versions should drop another 3+ pounds.

    Curious why you added Gripshift. Most seem to remove gripshift as their first mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSJ1973 View Post
    Curious why you added Gripshift. Most seem to remove gripshift as their first mod.
    My son wanted to stick with them. I can swap back later if he changes his mind.

    The cranks are next. Not sure about the brakes. Its all adding up.

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    Heres where we ended up. I still might do the cranks. Looking to get him out this weekend.

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    Still loving this bike? I'm seriously considering getting one for my son. And what do you think about the 100mm shock? Seems bigger than similar bikes.

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    I'm also curious. I was going to pick up a used 2019 model.

    Also, what size Rocket Ron's did you go with?

    Cheers

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    We just received this bike tonight (purchased, on sale, at REI.com)! Standover seems a little high, and the cranks are a little long for my son, but I'm still super happy with the purchase based on the 15 min my son rode it tonight. We just built a kicker ramp this past weekend and he was sending it off the ramp after riding the bike for 5 minutes. The frame quality appears very nice and the component spec is really good for the price.

    I think at my sons height the crank length isn't horrible and he will grow into them, but if they do seem to be an issue with more seat time then I might grab a Prevelo/Trailcraft crankset. The first mod will be Rocket Rons and possibly a Stans Crest wheelset. I will weigh the stock wheels to see what gains are to be had, aside from a wider rim. I think the stock rims are only 18mm I.D. Without actually measuring, there looks to be enough room for the 2.35" Rocket Rons in the rear, but the 2.1" are almost half the cost (m.s.r.p.) and will save an additional 100 grams.

    I was really eyeing a Trailcraft Pineridge or a Spawn Yama Jama, but the sale price of the Early Rider was too good to pass up and left room for upgrades. The only next niggle I can think of is that it has a 27.2 seatpost which limits the dropper options to a PNW dropper only, but my son needs to grow a little before worrying about a dropper.

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    That's great feedback. I was also hoping to get the Yama Jama, but they are out of stock in Canada due to the COVID-19 issues.

    How tall is your son? My son is 49.5", and I was also wondering if the standover height would be an issue.

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    Hes 53 with a 24.5 inseam if I remember correctly. I just cut 1 off the seat tube to get the seat all the way down. The tube was bottoming out before with about an inch sticking out. That should help some.

    Weighed the front wheel and tire today and there seems to be some good weight savings to be had there.

    860 grams for the stock front wheel, without rotor or skewer 590 grams for the maxis sniper tire.

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