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    So what comes next from those Evil geniuses after the Offering?

    I would love to see them revise the geometry on the Calling to have a steeper STA like the Offering, or better yet, a new 27.5 altogether with the updated geometry and 140 mm travel. IMO, that would make for a perfect, playful and nimble trail bike.

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    Why not set the Offering up with 27.5 ? According to the Evil website no problem running 27.5 x 2.6 - 2.8


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    Quote Originally Posted by railntrail View Post
    Why not set the Offering up with 27.5 ? According to the Evil website no problem running 27.5 x 2.6 - 2.8


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    I just don't love plus sized tires. I prefer a 2.4" - 2.5" front with a 2.3" - 2.4" rear.

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    Didn't see any mention of taking 27.5+ tires on their website but fanatik's review did say it can take 27.5 plus tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Didn't see any mention of taking 27.5+ tires on their website but fanatik's review did say it can take 27.5 plus tires.

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    I thought a 27.5 tire that is 2.6" or wider was considered plus size, no?

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    I would love to see an aggressive carbon HT with sliding dropouts from them.

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    Not really sure. That may be in the gray area. I thought 2.8 and up and plus size and closer to the size of a 29er

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    Either way, you make a valid point. I don't see them coming out with another bike solely for 27.5 with that geometry and travel if you can run a 27.5 2.6" tire on the Offering.

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    I talked with the guys at Evil about this earlier this week. What I got out of the conversation was that they were going to bring the Offering's geometry specs to the rest of their line, starting with the Following. This will happen within a year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler24 View Post
    I talked with the guys at Evil about this earlier this week. What I got out of the conversation was that they were going to bring the Offering's geometry specs to the rest of their line, starting with the Following. This will happen within a year or so.
    Great info! That's what I assumed and the logical path forward as opposed to releasing new models.

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    This sounds good. I like my Wreckoning but would love to see it with Offering geo


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    I'm kind of surprised (pleasantly) at the Offering's moderate geo. I was betting that the next Wrecker would get much more aggressive but now I'm not so sure. I don't mind the moderate (relative to current trend) geo myself as I like the Wreckoning's stock head angle as well as when using a -1 deg headset. I am, however, going back to the -1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    I'm kind of surprised (pleasantly) at the Offering's moderate geo. I was betting that the next Wrecker would get much more aggressive but now I'm not so sure. I don't mind the moderate (relative to current trend) geo myself as I like the Wreckoning's stock head angle as well as when using a -1 deg headset. I am, however, going back to the -1.
    Do you run your Wreck in LOW or X-LOW? I bought my Wreck with the standard FSA headset installed and also have a -1.5 works headset. The the BB turns out to be too low to run in X-LOW, I'll probably leave it in LOW and install the -1.5 headset.

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    Considering the MB came out around this time last year, I would be upset myself if they already make a new model. But that's businesses. I remember they use to have a new model of sportbikes/ superbikes every 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler24 View Post
    I talked with the guys at Evil about this earlier this week. What I got out of the conversation was that they were going to bring the Offering's geometry specs to the rest of their line, starting with the Following. This will happen within a year or so.
    as I was pondering the offering and whether its truly a "middle of the road" between the FMB and the Wrecker, I came to the conclusion that it is a Wrecker "light" with a 140mm fork and a Wrecker with a 160mm fork (or almost dead on Sentinel from a spreadsheet perspective). i do believe that pulling the rider weight forward with increased reach does mask a reduction in rear suspension travel. with that in mind, i got to thinking that there is a makeover for the entire line on the way. you don't just sing the superlatives of longer reach and seat tube for one frame while letting the others hang out to dry.

    I wonder what the yield life of a carbon model frame mold is? My guess is that the Wrecker/Insurgent LBs were processes changes, not new molds. Obviously the FMB is new molds. That theoretically makes the FMB tooling the only one that is not long in the tooth. Now-ish might be the perfect time to retool the whole lineup.


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    Do you run your Wreck in LOW or X-LOW? I bought my Wreck with the standard FSA headset installed and also have a -1.5 works headset. The the BB turns out to be too low to run in X-LOW, I'll probably leave it in LOW and install the -1.5 headset.
    running -1* with a 160mm fork on an XL Wrecker with 170mm cranks. The only place where she sees XLow is the park. Otherwise I am stomping rocks with every pedal stroke.
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    curious if and when they are bringing the new geo to the rest of the lineup

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashPanda View Post
    Do you run your Wreck in LOW or X-LOW? I bought my Wreck with the standard FSA headset installed and also have a -1.5 works headset. The the BB turns out to be too low to run in X-LOW, I'll probably leave it in LOW and install the -1.5 headset.
    Crap. Missed this question. Sorry!

    I've never even bothered with XLow. Low is plenty for me. I will be using the -1 with a Minion DHF 3.0 in a Fox 36. My fork has the 51 offset but the taller tire is supposed to increase "trail" like the 44 offset does. I'm not even sure if I have a clue what I am saying there but that's where I'm headed. I also switched to 165mm cranks and I'm 6'3" on an XL. I really like the shorter cranks more than I expected. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mt.biker e View Post
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    I'd like to see a Calling and Insurgent with the geo trends of the Offering. Confused about the LB and MB bikes and then the Offering with the "we were wrong" description. I'd probably buy both 27.5 frames if they had steeper seat tubes and the reach/top tube to match. But hard to spend the money if there are changes on the horizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deserat View Post
    I'd like to see a Calling and Insurgent with the geo trends of the Offering. Confused about the LB and MB bikes and then the Offering with the "we were wrong" description. I'd probably buy both 27.5 frames if they had steeper seat tubes and the reach/top tube to match. But hard to spend the money if there are changes on the horizon.
    my guess is that the "LB" bikes were process changes, and that the carbon molds did not change. shave weight, add new colors, pick up some new customers. the following was the most dated bike in the line up, so a change was in the works before before everyone decided they needed a 77* seat tube.

    Yeti rolled out the SB100, SB130 and SB150 this year. Transition retooled their entire lineup. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. I suspect you'll every manufacturer update their offerings (no pun intended) at break neck speed to be "current"

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