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    Following MB + Fox 36 140mm

    What's the head angle of a following MB with a Fox 36 140mm? Debating getting an angle set as I'd like to leave the bike in the high setting. Looking for a HA around 66 degrees which is roughly what my Wreckoning is in high I believe.

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    https://bikegeo.muha.cc/

    Figure it out for yourself. Ain't no body got time for that.

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    also, there is no angleset for an IS headset. It is just a bearing that goes into an integrated cup.

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    This angleset works just fine on a Following. https://www.fanatikbike.com/products...nt=39324610371

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    http://forums.mtbr.com/evil-bikes/ev...t-1023080.html

    Mixed bag, ride at your own willingness.

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    Works Components makes an angleset for the Evil headtubes. I have a -1 on my Wreckoning and it works great.

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    Looks like a mixed bags with the Evil headset -- not so much the Works Angleset.

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    I've been running my MB with a 2018 Fox 36, 140mm, in X-Low exclusively and LOVING it! I've got no issues climbing, no more pedal strikes than any other bike I've ridden, and I've forsaken my beloved Pivot Mach 6, as it kills the downs as well. I believe that the head angle is 66.4 with this setup. Again... could not be happier.

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    Following MB + Fox 36 140mm-evil.jpg

    140 Fox 36 in XLow since day 1..no problems climbing and rips DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajaguy View Post
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    140 Fox 36 in XLow since day 1..no problems climbing and rips DH.
    Nice looking rig there.

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    I have a 140 Diamond on my V1 same geo as MB. In high setting getting 65.5 head angle. It will really depend on the fork's axle to crown length as to what head angle you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rngspnr View Post
    I have a 140 Diamond on my V1 same geo as MB. In high setting getting 65.5 head angle. It will really depend on the fork's axle to crown length as to what head angle you get.
    Wow! Slacker than I would have expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Wow! Slacker than I would have expected.
    Exactly what I thought. I increased travel to 140 while I was waiting for the -1* angle set. I put the fork back in the bike and took an angle reading for the hell of it and was surprised to find out how slack it was. Had to send the headset back. The Diamond has a long axle to crown length which is what gave me the head angle. I like the bike like this it feels really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rngspnr View Post
    Exactly what I thought. I increased travel to 140 while I was waiting for the -1* angle set. I put the fork back in the bike and took an angle reading for the hell of it and was surprised to find out how slack it was. Had to send the headset back. The Diamond has a long axle to crown length which is what gave me the head angle. I like the bike like this it feels really good.
    Hmm, alright. Thinking maybe no angleset to start now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Hmm, alright. Thinking maybe no angleset to start now.
    Yeah. I would increase travel and take an angle reading to see where it is.
    From what I see on the Fox site the 140 36 has an axle to crown of 547mm. My Diamond has an axle to crown of 560mm. The 150 would be closer to how my bike is. I think Jayden from Fanatik is running the 140 fox with the angle set. That's where I got the idea from. You may want to contact him and get some more info.
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    Looks like in his review on fanatike site, the fox/angleset combo yields a 65.4 degree HA. That's maybe a little slacker than I want. Hmmmm...

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    OK. So a 130 fork in low on the MB gives a stated head angle of 67.4 in Xlow gives 66.8. Typically adding 10mm of travel will give approximately .5* slacker head angle. So in theory going to 140 will give you a head angle of 66.9 in low setting. So a -1* headset would put you at 65.9. Pretty close to where you want to be. Try the bike at 140 and go from there. Like I said my bike is 65.5 and feels awesome.
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    Ya, that's the plan. Your calculations sound correct. Can always get an angleset later!

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    Good luck! Keep posted.
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    FWIW, Following MB in Low, 140mm Pike (51mm offset), came out at 65.5 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammf View Post
    FWIW, Following MB in Low, 140mm Pike (51mm offset), came out at 65.5 degrees.
    That's with the stock headset? That's a huge difference for 10mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rngspnr View Post
    Yeah. I would increase travel and take an angle reading to see where it is.
    From what I see on the Fox site the 140 36 has an axle to crown of 547mm. My Diamond has an axle to crown of 560mm. The 150 would be closer to how my bike is. I think Jayden from Fanatik is running the 140 fox with the angle set. That's where I got the idea from. You may want to contact him and get some more info.
    Diamond 29 at 140 has an A-C of 552 not 560 according to their site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    Diamond 29 at 140 has an A-C of 552 not 560 according to their site.

    Measurement was approximate I'd have to get an actual. But either way my head angle is 65.5. Seeing jammf's post it seems that Evil's geo chart may be a bit off. Going to 140mm should only slack head angle by about +/- .5 * putting it at 66.9 in high setting. I do like the way the bike feels at 65.5.
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    I'm sure everyone thought of this but when checking angles make sure you take a reading with the bike facing 180 deg from the first reading and then average the two. This eliminates the possibility of the ground/ floor not being perfectly level.

    Additionally, where are you taking a reading on the bike? I have used fork stanchion tubes in the past. Are they parallel to the actual headtube angle?

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    Just a heads-up. The quickest way I have found to check HTA is with a smartphone and clinometer app:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...inometer&hl=en
    Just find a level surface (or use titusquasi's method and average both ways), hold the phone up to the stanchions, and subtract the reading from 90.

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    Got the bike! Measure with iphone app and got 65 degrees. This is exactly what my wreckoning is with a Lyrik. Given, the iphone app increments/decrements by full degrees. Wrecker feels slightly slacker. My guess is the MB is on the steeper end of 65 or even 66 where as the wrecker is on the other end of 65.
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    Sweet looking bike! What kind of wheels are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwarner57 View Post
    Sweet looking bike! What kind of wheels are those?
    ibis 942s

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    Iím considering going with a 140 Fox 36 for my following build since the axle to crown measurement only results in a 6 mm increase 547.1 vs 541 for a 130 pike. Anyone measure their B.B. height before and after going 140? Iím assuming since I have a XL frame that the B.B. height will be effected even less as the reach/top tub length is longer than most of the smaller frame size builds Iíve seen in here. Also, anyone with a 140 36 measure the head tube angle in the higher of the two B.B. setting?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bajaguy View Post
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    140 Fox 36 in XLow since day 1..no problems climbing and rips DH.
    Love that. This a L or XL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TermiLVR7 View Post
    Iím considering going with a 140 Fox 36 for my following build since the axle to crown measurement only results in a 6 mm increase 547.1 vs 541 for a 130 pike. Anyone measure their B.B. height before and after going 140? Iím assuming since I have a XL frame that the B.B. height will be effected even less as the reach/top tub length is longer than most of the smaller frame size builds Iíve seen in here. Also, anyone with a 140 36 measure the head tube angle in the higher of the two B.B. setting?


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    As mentioned above, my HA is on the steeper end of 65degrees in low. BB not measured but it's still a low bike.

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