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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Kingsting View Post
    Great to see some very good looking bikes hitting the trail. Unfortionately, I have heard from both Comp Cycle and Evil that the mid November batch of frames has been delayed and wonít arrive at the shops till late December. The good news is that this information is just in time for the new Grinch movie.....
    I ordered mine from Comp Cycle and it was here in a timely manner

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    Guess the first batch went fine but the second wave was delayed. There is a shipment of blue frames due in early December and the black version is due into Evil in mid December for Q/C and then should arrive at Comp on 12/28.

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    My frame was part of the second batch to arrive at Evil. My small blue arrived at my shop last week. Just waiting for the new dropper to arrive. I hope to be riding the bike soon. Updates to follow.

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    Picked up an Offering today from JensonUSA. Ordered Thanksgiving day and they had them in stock.

    Just wanted to throw in my feels for those asking about sizing....I'm 5'11" - 32 inseam and got a Large w/ a 35mm stem. Feels like home.

    However, I've always felt more comfortable on larger bikes (coming from a Large Meta TRv4.2).

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    Just got word from Fanatik that my Offering is being built now and should be shipping out early next week. Blackout Drunk, Size M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrakt51 View Post
    Picked up an Offering today from JensonUSA. Ordered Thanksgiving day and they had them in stock.

    Just wanted to throw in my feels for those asking about sizing....I'm 5'11" - 32 inseam and got a Large w/ a 35mm stem. Feels like home.

    However, I've always felt more comfortable on larger bikes (coming from a Large Meta TRv4.2).
    Thank you! My large Offering is on its way - I'm 5'11.5" and Evil suggested I get a medium, but the geo on the large is very similar to my large Smuggler (which I love). Hope it "feels like home."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    It goes all the way down and is 170mm in travel.
    At 6'2" does having it slammed to the collar give you enough ride height at full extension or is it too low? Inseam???

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    From the photo, Jonathon's riding it with at least 2 inches of post sticking out from the collar.

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    I know not many people running small frame but hereís pic of one up dropper 150mm in farthest it will go in. Goes to about to the E on back of post. Think itís 225mm I measured if this helps anyone. Have all my parts to build just need a wheelset.
    Small frame my boy blue
    Float dpx2
    Ohlins coil fork 160mm 51 offset
    Gx eagle 165mm cranks
    Gx eagle 12 speed shifter, gx derailleur
    Nx Eagle 12 speed cassette, Sram BB
    Magura trail sport brakes 203/180 storm hc rotor
    150 One up dropper and remote
    Wtb saddle
    Renthal carbon 35 lite bars 760 30mm rise
    Ht meo3 flat pedals flo yellow
    Odi grips
    2.5 wt maxxis 3C DHF front
    2.3 maxxis aggressor DC rear
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    Parts Still to get
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    Future upgrades
    ohlins coil shock or fox 36 air fork
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    Is it safe to say I can't use my old NON-Boost XO1 or XX1 cranks on the new offering? I'm hoping I can just put an offset chainring on it.

    This image from OneUp's boost write up here makes it seem like I can get the chain line with just the chainring.
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    The Evil OFFERING....

    Quote Originally Posted by madamfunk View Post
    Is it safe to say I can't use my old NON-Boost XO1 or XX1 cranks on the new offering? I'm hoping I can just put an offset chainring on it.

    This image from OneUp's boost write up here makes it seem like I can get the chain line with just the chainring.
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    You are correct. SRAM doesnít make a boost crank really. They use a 3mm offset chainring for boost and a 6mm for non boost. Direct mount chainring that is


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhand80 View Post
    You are correct. SRAM doesnít make a boost crank really. They use a 3mm offset chainring for boost and a 6mm for non boost. Direct mount chainring that is


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    Beautifulllll. The XX1 crank has been on 4 different bikes since 2013

    It is weird that in the doc they say the XX1 and XO1 were different. They are the exact same crank, they just had different spiders. If using direct mount it doesn't matter. The new 12-speed stuff is different though, the X01 has a reinforced foam insert in the hollow carbon arm.

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    The Evil OFFERING....-img_5407_zpsptaycymo.jpg

    This bad boy just shipped from Fanatik!

    Offering in Black Out Drunk, Size Medium
    Rock Shox Super Deluxe RC3 (I have a DVO Topaz ready to swap out)
    Rock Shox Lyrik 29" RC2 Debonair Charger2 15x110 Boost - 2019 - 160mm / Diffusion Black (I have a DVO Diamond set to 140mm ready to swap out)
    Lyrik 150mm DebonAir Air Spring (FK4078)
    SRAM XX1 Eagle Components
    Magura MT Trail Carbon Disc Brakes with HC3 Adjustable 1-Finger Levers
    Magura Storm HC Rotor - 203mm/180mm
    Enve M6 Mountain Handlebar - 25mm
    Enve M6 Mountain Stem - 40mm
    Chris King Threadfit 30 Ceramic Bottom Bracket - Black
    Race Face Next R Cinch Crank Arms - 2019 - Black / 170mm
    OneUp Components Switch Oval Chainring/Boost Cinch Carrier Set - 32T Oval
    E13 Lower Guide for Evil Bikes
    Onyx MTB 12x148/28 hole/Alloy XD Driver/Antifreeze Green
    Onyx MTB 15x110mm/28 hole/Powder Coat Candy Purple
    Enve M630/28 hole Rims Front/Rear (Tubeless)
    DT Swiss Aerolite Spokes - Black
    Maxxis Minion DHF 29" WideTrail Tire - 3C EXO MaxxTerra TR / 2.5"
    Maxxis Aggressor 29" Tire - DC EXO TR / 2.30"
    WTB Volt Carbon Saddle 135mm
    Kind Shock LEV Integra CI Dropper Seatpost - 30.9mm / 150/442mm
    Wolf Tooth Components ReMote - 22.2mm Handlebar Clamp
    Race Face Love Handle Grips - Purple
    DMR Vault Lacon Signature Pedals / HT Components T1 Clipless Pedal - Purple / Shimano XTR PD-M9120 Pedals

    This build should come in under 30lbs. I'll confirm once it arrives.

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    2nd ride out at Walker ranch yesterday near boulder.

    Much more comfortable after getting the fork tuned properly. Able to get this thing in the air quite nicely. For a longer bike it turns on a damn dime. Getting used to the spring curve of a delta link but so far it seems to just gobble trail up. Poppy in the first inch or so of travel then very plush in that mid stroke. Feels like more than a 140mm bike for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashPanda View Post
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    This bad boy just shipped from Fanatik!

    Offering in Black Out Drunk, Size Medium
    Rock Shox Super Deluxe RC3 (I have a DVO Topaz ready to swap out)
    Rock Shox Lyrik 29" RC2 Debonair Charger2 15x110 Boost - 2019 - 160mm / Diffusion Black (I have a DVO Diamond set to 140mm ready to swap out)
    Lyrik 150mm DebonAir Air Spring (FK4078)
    SRAM XX1 Eagle Components
    Magura MT Trail Carbon Disc Brakes with HC3 Adjustable 1-Finger Levers
    Magura Storm HC Rotor - 203mm/180mm
    Enve M6 Mountain Handlebar - 25mm
    Enve M6 Mountain Stem - 40mm
    Chris King Threadfit 30 Ceramic Bottom Bracket - Black
    Race Face Next R Cinch Crank Arms - 2019 - Black / 170mm
    OneUp Components Switch Oval Chainring/Boost Cinch Carrier Set - 32T Oval
    E13 Lower Guide for Evil Bikes
    Onyx MTB 12x148/28 hole/Alloy XD Driver/Antifreeze Green
    Onyx MTB 15x110mm/28 hole/Powder Coat Candy Purple
    Enve M630/28 hole Rims Front/Rear (Tubeless)
    DT Swiss Aerolite Spokes - Black
    Maxxis Minion DHF 29" WideTrail Tire - 3C EXO MaxxTerra TR / 2.5"
    Maxxis Aggressor 29" Tire - DC EXO TR / 2.30"
    WTB Volt Carbon Saddle 135mm
    Kind Shock LEV Integra CI Dropper Seatpost - 30.9mm / 150/442mm
    Wolf Tooth Components ReMote - 22.2mm Handlebar Clamp
    Race Face Love Handle Grips - Purple
    DMR Vault Lacon Signature Pedals / HT Components T1 Clipless Pedal - Purple / Shimano XTR PD-M9120 Pedals

    This build should come in under 30lbs. I'll confirm once it arrives.
    My girlfriend would LOVE this bike!

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    Anyone now on an offering who came off a primer?
    Other than the fact size to size its a longer bike, how does it compare climbing and descending? Currently running a 150mm fork and 140mm recluse link so head angle is 66 degrees and descends well and climbs like a bat our of hell...

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    Trash panda. Purdy...great build.

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    The Evil OFFERING....-img_4680-002-.jpg
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    Sick.

    Jealous!
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    So many questions, how did you like it in Sedona? What coil shock are you running, how does it pedal with the coil, any excessive bob?

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    I now have two rides in on my Offering size small. The first ride was about 13 miles with 2,200 ft of climbing and the send ride was about 11 miles and 1,700 ft of climbing. I plan to do more trail riding in the coming days. I started with Evil a few years ago. Had a Following for about 2 years and then got a Wreckoning that I rode for about 1 year.

    I remember the Following being super fun and poppy but I was wanting for more travel as my rides were getting more aggressive. There was nothing wrong with the Following; I just wanted something that wouldn't put me on edge when things got really steep and rocky.

    The Wreckoning was surprisingly fun and it was still playful. I loved how I could crush the downhills. However, as time went on, I realized that I wanted a bike with a little more pop and that I was not wanting to be as super aggressive as I thought I wanted. When Evil released the Offering, I couldn't resist.

    My first impression is that the the steepened seat tube is a real improvement. The bike climbs the technical stuff great and it is super easy to make it around tight uphill switchbacks. I also noticed that the bike rides higher in its travel than the Wreckoning. The bike wants to pop off of every feature. Super fun. On the downhill, the Offering does not blow through stuff like the Wreckoning did. The Wreckoning is better in that regard.

    Overall, I am very pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused View Post
    So many questions, how did you like it in Sedona? What coil shock are you running, how does it pedal with the coil, any excessive bob?
    Offering was perfect for Sedona. For me the bike is a great tech climber and slow tech descents were a breeze.

    Running a Rock Shox Super Deluxe coil with a 500lb spring (I weigh ~195lbs)

    Really like the way the bike climbs with the coil, doesn't have have any excess motion and has just the right amount of traction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Offering was perfect for Sedona. For me the bike is a great tech climber and slow tech descents were a breeze.

    Running a Rock Shox Super Deluxe coil with a 500lb spring (I weigh ~195lbs)

    Really like the way the bike climbs with the coil, doesn't have have any excess motion and has just the right amount of traction.
    . Are you still running the fork in 160 travel? Thoughts on that. low or x-lo? I'm contemplating an angle set headset to slacken it a bit more.

    Super Unknown

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    Just a heads up - a 30t Oval Chainring (Wolf Tooth) will not clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    Just a heads up - a 30t Oval Chainring (Wolf Tooth) will not clear.
    How about with the suspension at 25%-30% sag?

    This design was a bummer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraxFactory View Post
    How about with the suspension at 25%-30% sag?

    This design was a bummer.....
    I neglected that part - need to adjust RD but it contacts very minimally at sag. Going to try a non-elliptical 30t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    I neglected that part - need to adjust RD but it contacts very minimally at sag. Going to try a non-elliptical 30t.
    Why donít you run a 32 tooth elliptical? It fits perfectly and it will have the feel of a 30 tooth for that part of the stroke where needed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongWayB View Post
    Why donít you run a 32 tooth elliptical? It fits perfectly and it will have the feel of a 30 tooth for that part of the stroke where needed.


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    Yep - thatís where Iím at now who wants a 34t eagle or 30t elliptical nice and cheap?!? This was my first stab at an elliptical having tried a friends on a Following.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    2nd ride out at Walker ranch yesterday near boulder.

    Much more comfortable after getting the fork tuned properly. Able to get this thing in the air quite nicely. For a longer bike it turns on a damn dime. Getting used to the spring curve of a delta link but so far it seems to just gobble trail up. Poppy in the first inch or so of travel then very plush in that mid stroke. Feels like more than a 140mm bike for sure.
    I'm Boulder guy too. Walker Ranch is one of my favorite trails. What's your take on this bike's climbing characteristics?

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    For those that bought just the frame and built it up yourself. Did you have to buy their headset kit? Or did the crown race and all those parts come with the frame?

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    My New Offering

    Just received the pics from Fanatik for my build.The Evil OFFERING....-evil-offering-1.jpgThe Evil OFFERING....-evil-offering-2.jpgThe Evil OFFERING....-evil-offering-3.jpg
    2019 EVIL Offering

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    The Evil OFFERING....

    Quote Originally Posted by Legoman View Post
    For those that bought just the frame and built it up yourself. Did you have to buy their headset kit? Or did the crown race and all those parts come with the frame?
    Frame comes w/ rear axle and headset kit. - edited to say that headset kit includes race
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman69 View Post
    . Are you still running the fork in 160 travel? Thoughts on that. low or x-lo? I'm contemplating an angle set headset to slacken it a bit more.
    Dropped the fork to 150mm a while back and have kept it in XLow. I am still running the offset fork, and for my riding so far the HA is good.
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    Awesome. Thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legoman View Post
    For those that bought just the frame and built it up yourself. Did you have to buy their headset kit? Or did the crown race and all those parts come with the frame?
    Comes with the crown race too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    Frame comes w/ rear axle and headset kit. Don't recall if there was a race but that normally comes with the fork.
    Crown races are specific to the headset, not the fork, hence they'll come in the headset kit in with the frame. 👍👌

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    Very Nice. Very similar to my build. I've only had one ride, and this bike does everything well. Your going to be real happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerpoise View Post
    Crown races are specific to the headset, not the fork, hence they'll come in the headset kit in with the frame. 👍👌
    Yep - don't listen to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiliDog76 View Post


    Very Nice. Very similar to my build. I've only had one ride, and this bike does everything well. Your going to be real happy.
    Canít wait, Thursday canít get here soon enough. Did you go through Fanatik as well?

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    Really loving the way this build came out. Can't wait to try it with the DVO suspension installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashPanda View Post
    Really loving the way this build came out. Can't wait to try it with the DVO suspension installed.

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    Black and purple would have probably been my color preference too, but to help my wife be more comfortable with the price tag I let her and the daughter help choose colors.

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    Panda,
    Please share how the installation goes - especially the Shock. I picked up a bushing kit after talking to Ronnie at DVO. Think it cost me $10 and should be easier than trying to pull them out of the stock shock. Hope it goes well for you and looking forward to seeing the bike after installation. That is a very well thought out build you put together.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by M0riarty11 View Post
    Black and purple would have probably been my color preference too, but to help my wife be more comfortable with the price tag I let her and the daughter help choose colors.
    Whatever it takes to get the wife's approval, do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Kingsting View Post
    Panda,
    Please share how the installation goes - especially the Shock. I picked up a bushing kit after talking to Ronnie at DVO. Think it cost me $10 and should be easier than trying to pull them out of the stock shock. Hope it goes well for you and looking forward to seeing the bike after installation. That is a very well thought out build you put together.
    Cheers
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    I'll let you know how it goes. Did you purchase the bushing kit direct from Evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiliDog76 View Post


    Very Nice. Very similar to my build. I've only had one ride, and this bike does everything well. Your going to be real happy.
    How much did your weigh?
    2019 EVIL Offering

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashPanda View Post
    I'll let you know how it goes. Did you purchase the bushing kit direct from Evil?
    Yes, did it over the phone. Those guys are so easy to work with, a perfect example of how to handle customer service in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jn24uk View Post
    How much did your weigh?
    29.8

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    debating between ibis ripmo versus evil offering.

    i mainly trail ride, but loath climbing as purely a necessary evil to rip a fun downhill. i also do 2 or 3 enduro races a year for fun.

    thoughts?

    i'm kinda split between the two

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillindrdude View Post
    debating between ibis ripmo versus evil offering.

    i mainly trail ride, but loath climbing as purely a necessary evil to rip a fun downhill. i also do 2 or 3 enduro races a year for fun.

    thoughts?

    i'm kinda split between the two
    Posting this question on an Evil Offering thread will return slightly biased responses....just saying

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    I think a lot of people are in the same boat.

    Things to consider:
    Does one fit better than the other. I feel I am really between the L and XL Ripmo. The L Offering looks perfect for me.

    Do you ever want to run a coil shock. Offering.

    Fork travel. Ripmo was designed around a 160 fork. Offering 140-160. Seems like most are running a 150 on the offering.

    Both bikes look killer and I am sure you can't go wrong with either.

    Quote Originally Posted by chillindrdude View Post
    debating between ibis ripmo versus evil offering.

    i mainly trail ride, but loath climbing as purely a necessary evil to rip a fun downhill. i also do 2 or 3 enduro races a year for fun.

    thoughts?

    i'm kinda split between the two

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Kingsting View Post
    Yes, did it over the phone. Those guys are so easy to work with, a perfect example of how to handle customer service in my book.
    I just called Evil and spoke and they said they don't sell the bushing kits. Which specific shock bushing is it and do you know what size I need to get?

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    I just called Evil and spoke and they said they don't sell the bushing kits. Which specific shock bushing is it and do you know what size I need to get?
    Disregard. I called DVO and they sell the bushings. For anyone else considering running a DVO Topaz Trunnion shock, you'll need a 20x8 bushing since the Rock Shox hardware will not fit. DVO sells the bushing direct or you can use one from a Fox bushing kit that your LBS should stock.

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    My XL is shipping out today from Competitive Cyclists that I ordered on 11/22. Did their custom builder which was surprisingly a more affordable route to build a GX kitted Offering. Trying to get cash back from ebates on the deal as Evil bikes was (is) not excluded in their small print. Fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillindrdude View Post
    debating between ibis ripmo versus evil offering.

    i mainly trail ride, but loath climbing as purely a necessary evil to rip a fun downhill. i also do 2 or 3 enduro races a year for fun.

    thoughts?

    i'm kinda split between the two
    I'm an Ibis fan but reports of the Ripmo blowing thru it's travel has me more than a little disappointed.
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    What color frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Kingsting View Post
    What color frame?
    My boy blue

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    Not a direct comparison but my ibis HD3 blew through its travel stupidly easy. Had to fill every shock I tried full of spacers which still never stopped it. Did turn me off a Ripmo a bit and helped steer me to an evil.
    But then I think they adjusted the curve a bit and less linear?
    Ibis warranty is amazing too! Yet to test evil.

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    I finally downloaded Tapatalk, this will be much easier now. I finally got the seat, waiting on orange decals, still need to set up the shocks but I look forward to a few more rides this weekend.

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    ^dope!

    Question about frame protection. What are you all using for your Offering? This is my first matte frame and not sure my typical Shelter tape will be my first choice. Seems that a lot of the kits top out at Large, with nothing available for XL. Anybody use shelter tape? If so, how does it look on the matte paint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillindrdude View Post
    debating between ibis ripmo versus evil offering.

    i mainly trail ride, but loath climbing as purely a necessary evil to rip a fun downhill. i also do 2 or 3 enduro races a year for fun.

    thoughts?

    i'm kinda split between the two
    Iíve demoed both. Preffered the offering. The ripmo was good, very very good infact, but the offering felt more confident on the downs. Pretty similar climbers with slight edge to ripmo.

    I fit an L offering but the L ripmo was tiny - XL perfect.

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    Has anyone tried 27.5+ wheels in this thing yet?
    I would also consider running it with 2.6 tyres in Low mode with maybe a 160 fork as an alternative to 29.... thoughts?

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    @Moriarty..... you'd love the wheels I've built up for my Blue Offering.... Orange Hope Pro4s, with Orange Sapim Nipples.The Evil OFFERING....-47110625_283367912532541_4660253319631994880_n.jpg

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    I was definitely wanting some wheels with orange hope hubs, but ended up getting the Ethirteen wheels for about half off.
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    @Moriarty..... you'd love the wheels I've built up for my Blue Offering.... Orange Hope Pro4s, with Orange Sapim Nipples.Click image for larger version. 

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    Everyone see the review/comparison enduro MTB mag did with the offering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Everyone see the review/comparison enduro MTB mag did with the offering?
    Yep, pretty solid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Everyone see the review/comparison enduro MTB mag did with the offering?

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    Link?

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    Those with a Lyrik on their Offering - what setup are you running with Tokens?

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    The Enduro-MTB review is on the app, you need to download it from the playstore or iOS.

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    Enduro BIke Review

    For those who haven't read the review on enduro bike magainze...

    It is free. You need to install the app then download the latest magazine (issue 036). It is offered a an international edition in English or a German edition.

    The article is 13 bike "best trail bike of 2019" shoot out. All highest end specs. The main article talks about the test and some key findings, and has some rankings. The Evil Offering got 4 stars for downhill and 5 stars for uphill. They include a graph of stability vs agility and the offering covered the entire range less a small bit at the high end of agility. No bike completely covered the range equally. It's an interesting plot and a bit difficult to explain.

    After the main article there is an article on each individual bike.

    The Ibis Ripmo was their top bike choice, beating out the Evil Offering by being a bit more agile and half a star better at downhill. The Evil Offering was in the top 3 based on ratings (looks to me like it's ratings tied with the Santa Cruz Bronson).

    Mostly positive comments but there are always trade offs and they noted the Evil Offering can feel sluggish on boring terrain. Also suggested upgrading the brakes and that seemed to be a common theme as it was mentioned in the main article as an issue in general - as trail bikes have gotten so much better they feel brakes on the mfg spec are not keeping up.

    Worth the read and I'm glad someone pointed it out as there were some other articles worth reading as well.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyork2 View Post
    For those who haven't read the review on enduro bike magainze...

    It is free. You need to install the app then download the latest magazine (issue 036). It is offered a an international edition in English or a German edition.

    The article is 13 bike "best trail bike of 2019" shoot out. All highest end specs. The main article talks about the test and some key findings, and has some rankings. The Evil Offering got 4 stars for downhill and 5 stars for uphill. They include a graph of stability vs agility and the offering covered the entire range less a small bit at the high end of agility. No bike completely covered the range equally. It's an interesting plot and a bit difficult to explain.

    After the main article there is an article on each individual bike.

    The Ibis Ripmo was their top bike choice, beating out the Evil Offering by being a bit more agile and half a star better at downhill. The Evil Offering was in the top 3 based on ratings (looks to me like it's ratings tied with the Santa Cruz Bronson).

    Mostly positive comments but there are always trade offs and they noted the Evil Offering can feel sluggish on boring terrain. Also suggested upgrading the brakes and that seemed to be a common theme as it was mentioned in the main article as an issue in general - as trail bikes have gotten so much better they feel brakes on the mfg spec are not keeping up.

    Worth the read and I'm glad someone pointed it out as there were some other articles worth reading as well.

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    Got your stars mixed up there, 5 downhill 4 uphill 🤘

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    I understand this as saying that although the Ripmo was their top choice for some reason that the Offering stands ahead in some other way that couldn't be quantified (maybe fun factor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0riarty11 View Post
    I understand this as saying that although the Ripmo was their top choice for some reason that the Offering stands ahead in some other way that couldn't be quantified (maybe fun factor).

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    That paragraph is in the individual review of The Offering so I read it as meaning that the Offering would be the best choice for most riders out of the Evil portfolio of bikes (Following, Calling, Insurgent, Wreckoning).

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    Aahhh, I guess that makes sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by nel View Post
    That paragraph is in the individual review of The Offering so I read it as meaning that the Offering would be the best choice for most riders out of the Evil portfolio of bikes (Following, Calling, Insurgent, Wreckoning).
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    Flipped the links to the x-low setting after a few rides in low. You do give up a bit of traction on steep climbs as the front is a hair lighter but I really like the way it corners and gives you a more aggressive geo for the downs. Seems like x-low with a 150mm fork is ideal for me. Happy trade-off for having to slide a bit more forward in the saddle.

    Only negatives Iíve got so far is finding the right mid-stroke support on the MRP Ribbon coil fork and the crazy trail chatter from the XT 4 piston brakes. The pads rattling around make a ton of noise.

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    Talking of brakes.. I wish I went codes over the guide RSC.

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    Interesting.... Have you ridden Guides before? I've been on Guides since the same caliper was on the Avid Trail XO brakes. After riding in The Alps, Maderia and Finale I've not felt the need for bigger brakes on my Insurgent.

    What is it about the Guides and the Offering that make you want the Codes? And what were you riding before?

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    I've ridden guide RSC since they came out. But this is first time on a 29er, and hmm, just don't feel like I can pull up quite as fast as used to.

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    Anyone around 5'11" to 6' ridden both the M and the L? Comparing similar geo of Ripmo and SB130, at my height I should be on L for those bikes, but the Offering M is recommended up to 6'. Would be good to know any feedback on the difference in agility/stability between the two sizes.

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    The guy in this vid is on a Medium and he's your height. He talks about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelp View Post
    Anyone around 5'11" to 6' ridden both the M and the L? Comparing similar geo of Ripmo and SB130, at my height I should be on L for those bikes, but the Offering M is recommended up to 6'. Would be good to know any feedback on the difference in agility/stability between the two sizes.
    I'm 5'11. Was on a large FMB, bought an M Offering. Fit feels really great.

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    Got my girl last weekend. The article in Enduro-MTB is spot on. The bike is fun but not as playful as my following V1. Still only 2 rides in so there are some adjustments needing to be made and maybe even shorten my stem from 50mm to 35mm. Still loving it though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBermmundy View Post
    Got my girl last weekend. The article in Enduro-MTB is spot on. The bike is fun but not as playful as my following V1. Still only 2 rides in so there are some adjustments needing to be made and maybe even shorten my stem from 50mm to 35mm. Still loving it though!
    What size aggressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    What size aggressor?
    2.3 with no clearance issues

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    Do you think it would fit a 2.5 Aggressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinx44 View Post
    Do you think it would fit a 2.5 Aggressor?
    That would be very tight. Im running 41mm Ibis rims so that may make the footprint a tad wider than a thinner rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBermmundy View Post
    That would be very tight. Im running 41mm Ibis rims so that may make the footprint a tad wider than a thinner rim.
    I will be buying an Offering and am planning the build. I have a set of wheels with NOX Kitsuma rims, 36mm internal so they will be just like yours. Looks like 2.35 it is.

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    The Evil OFFERING....

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBermmundy View Post
    That would be very tight. Im running 41mm Ibis rims so that may make the footprint a tad wider than a thinner rim.
    Thereís someone on here running a 2.5 aggressor - I had a 2.6 Hans Dampf that fit and cleared but in two rides I have more gouges than I care for.


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    2.5 Aggressor, Again

    Also on Kitsuma rims. I've got lots of frame tape in the area, but so far, so good. The only issue I have is when I pick up rocks.
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    Anyone coming off a stumpjumper to the offering? Right now i am riding a 2016 SJ in a large. The fit is pretty much spot on. And i do like how it rides for the most part. Just curious if anyone had any sizing or ride comparisons. 6' with 34" inseam and longish arms.
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    Hi all, Iím 6í4Ē (193cm) with slightly long arms and legs. I currently ride a V1 following xl, which is perfect for my local trails, but I did my first Enduro in the Alps this summer and would appreciate a bit more squish and stability. I tried an XL Wreckoning and for me, this bike flattened out my local trails too much to make it my daily driver.

    Thinking seriously about the Offering with a 150 Lyric. Can anyone tell me if the XL offering with this setup will be more lively than the XL Wreckoning? That long wheelbase has me kind of freaked out, coming from the Following.

    I could also drop down to an L, but the TTL would be much smaller than my current bike, which already feels a little cramped on the uphills.


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    You definitely won't want a Large. For comparison, the Large Offering is almost identical in geometry to a Medium Mondraker Foxy 29. My mate who's 5'9 rides that medium Foxy, and it's a perfect fit.

    EDIT: I meant medium Foxy, not small (obviously!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerpoise View Post
    You definitely won't want a Large. For comparison, the Large Offering is almost identical in geometry to a Small Mondraker Foxy 29. My mate who's 5'9 rides that medium Foxy, and it's a perfect fit.
    Thanks for that input. I also think the XL makes more sense from a fit perspective, even though Evil has been recommending to downsize for a lot of people looking at the offering. I just want to make sure that it has a decent amount of playfulness compared to the Wreckoning. Otherwise it might be better to go with an FMB.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHsurfer View Post
    Hi all, Iím 6í4Ē (193cm) with slightly long arms and legs. I currently ride a V1 following xl, which is perfect for my local trails, but I did my first Enduro in the Alps this summer and would appreciate a bit more squish and stability. I tried an XL Wreckoning and for me, this bike flattened out my local trails too much to make it my daily driver.

    Thinking seriously about the Offering with a 150 Lyric. Can anyone tell me if the XL offering with this setup will be more lively than the XL Wreckoning? That long wheelbase has me kind of freaked out, coming from the Following.

    I could also drop down to an L, but the TTL would be much smaller than my current bike, which already feels a little cramped on the uphills.


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    6'3" XL Wreck, XL Offering - No way I would want to be on a large. It is more lively and I too was slightly afraid of the longer wheelbase but once the rubbers on the dirt that preconceived notion disappears and you end up with a lively yet stable traction machine. I was very reluctant going with this over the MB having spent a month or so on the MB - simply put this is the best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    6'3" XL Wreck, XL Offering - No way I would want to be on a large. It is more lively and I too was slightly afraid of the longer wheelbase but once the rubbers on the dirt that preconceived notion dissappears and you end up with a lively yet stable traction machine.
    Thanks. That answers my question perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHsurfer View Post
    Thanks. That answers my question perfectly.

    XL Offering!!!


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    I size off of reach alone, as there is only one thing you can do to impact it: lengthen/shorten the stem. For TT lengths, you can move the saddle fore/aft in addition to monkeying with the stem. Out of the saddle feel is much more important to me than in the saddle feel...but back to the wheelbase thing:

    Out of the saddle, increased WB is a non issue for me....most of the time I am moving at speed, so a longer WB is welcomed, I have greater ability to lean the bike to restore some turning prowess, and I can lift the back wheel in tight sections to swing it around the apex of the turns.

    Understanding that WB does affect maneuverability, I don't think all WB is created equal. Where it matters to me is in the saddle, however, seatpost angle can make WB disappear as the seatpost angle gets steeper. Assuming the TTs stay fixed, the steeper the SA, the less you are riding over the rear wheel when seated. The affect is that you are pulling the rear wheel around corners more and pushing the front wheel around corners less. In addition, the front wheel should be more planted and you should be able to more accurately place it on the edge of the trail in tight switchbacks.

    The rear wheel always tracks tighter around corners than the front, so the closer you are to the rear axle, the closer your elbows and shoulders will be to obstacles on the inside of the turn, which can make any bike feel like it is unmanageable in the tight stuff.

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    Bikes available

    FYI Bikes from the next batch of frames are shipping and it looks like there is some stock available on the web site now (I put a medium, black out frame in the cart and it let me get to the point of checking out which it would not do when they were sold out).

    Probably not a lot of stock so jump if you are feeling froggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelp View Post
    Anyone around 5'11" to 6' ridden both the M and the L? Comparing similar geo of Ripmo and SB130, at my height I should be on L for those bikes, but the Offering M is recommended up to 6'. Would be good to know any feedback on the difference in agility/stability between the two sizes.
    5'11" (32" inseam) on the dot and on a Large. Haven't ridden a medium but the large feels money.

    I'm sure you can go either way and fall in love with the bike...

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