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    Trans Iowa Registration Announcement

    Okay guys, this is it! Send no money because it's a FREE event this year!

    Here's how you do it: Get a standard post card and write the following on it.....

    #1 Your Name, (You know it, you love it!)

    #2 Category, (Choose one: Men's Open, Womens Open, and Mens/Womens Single Speed/Fixed)

    #3 Your e-mail address, (strictly confidential and only used to keep you updated once you are on the roster)

    #4 Your phone number (we prefer a cell # that can be used to call you during the event. If you do not have a cell phone, use your Dad's or somebodies, for crying out loud!)

    All four requirements must be on each post card sent or the entry will not be valid in our eyes. We also reserve the right to refuse damaged, or unreadable post cards.

    Put a postage stamp on it for the proper amount!

    Send your post cards to this address: Europa Cycle and Ski
    c/o Trans Iowa V3
    4302 University Avenue
    Cedar Falls, Ia 50613

    Make sure you get them in by December 15th. Any cards recieved past this date will be disposed of and will not qualify for the lottery drawing to be held December 16th. The results of which will be posted at www.transiowa.blogspot.com and eventually here.

    Okay, if ya want in, now's yer chance! We'll recycle all the post cards we recieve by making prayer flags out of them and putting them at the top of all the big climbs! So make sure they are pretty!

    As a reminder to those who might have missed it, Trans Iowa is going to be held the weekend of April 28th-29th as a loop course of approximately 320 miles to be finished in 33 hours or less. The event is free, but is limited to a roster of 100 folks who will be chosen by lottery from a pile of postcards on the shop floor of Europa Cycle and Ski on December 16th. You may send as many or as few post cards as you deem necessary, but they all must be filled out with the required four parts of information described above. The post cards must be recieved in legible form and by no later than December 15th!

    We make no money on this, (in fact we're losing money on the event....we're crazy like that) we do it for fun. Please keep that in mind, ya'all. Cheers!
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    Cool

    I'll start looking for a few post cards in the am....
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    Good job! Lets see those postcards!

    The more creative the better
    I'll be posting the good ones on here for all to see!!
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    SS baby!

    Did I miss a ruling on the rating of the postcards? (G, PG, PG-13, R, XXX)

    Mine will be in the mail this week!
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    Bummer!

    Well, this just sucks! April 27-29 is about the only weekend this spring that I am not, and can not be, free for a race.

    I'll follow this race with great interest. Good luck to everyone that gets in!

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    Postcards?

    Seriously where do you buy these ancient relics? I tried the grocery store, 2 gas stations and Target and came up empty. More searching tomorrow I guess
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    I see 'em everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay
    Seriously where do you buy these ancient relics? I tried the grocery store, 2 gas stations and Target and came up empty. More searching tomorrow I guess
    Local Hy Vee has a huge display. Several gift card shops have 'em, and I believe you can pick up generic ones at the Post Office. Shouldn't be a problem to make your own, if you have to.
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    I'll be gluing

    My info to the back of some art gallery cards..... Chris this isn't that hard
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    Hey suburbia isn't great *all* the time
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    One (1) vaguely metaphorical handmade card in the mailbox as of 5 minutes ago. If I get in, awesome. If not, KTR.

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    Lottery entry updates?

    This may be asking alot... but is it possible to list updates on the number of people entered in the lottery so far? or even the point (if you get there) that there are more than 100 different entrants? If by Dec. 10, you have 200 different people trying for 100 spots, then I would probably send a few more postcards before the 15th.....

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    It's in the mail

    I have just mailed my one post card and hope to get in. I am very excited for this event and this time I am entering the open field. I may ride fixed, depending on my fitness come April, but by entering open I have the option. And by entering "open" I can flip flop a fixed if I want to. I don't think I have any prayer at winning this thing (I saw the competition last year, and I am not in the same class) and I just want to finish it. I guess you could say it is my white whale.

    The rules say that everyone can enter as many times as they want. Those are the rules, and I can live with that. However, if everyone mails one post card, everyone gets the same chance. If everyone mails 30 post cards, everyone gets the same chance, but they all spent 30X as much. If someone puts in many more cards than someone else they are of course going to have better odds of getting in. But I don't think I am any more worthy than anyone else to get in, so I am going to put in my one card and hope that everyone else does the same. Then I am going to cross my fingers and hope that I make it in.

    I hope everyone who wants in gets in, and I hope to see you all come April. Are there any Pizza Ranches in Decorah?

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    This may be asking alot... but is it possible to list updates on the number of people entered in the lottery so far? or even the point (if you get there) that there are more than 100 different entrants? If by Dec. 10, you have 200 different people trying for 100 spots, then I would probably send a few more postcards before the 15th.....
    While we won't keep an exact tally, I think we will be able to give you a periodacal update on the "approximate" number of entries.

    I hope everyone who wants in gets in, and I hope to see you all come April. Are there any Pizza Ranches in Decorah?
    Hmmm.....I don't think there is a Pizza Ranch but there is something far better! Keep checking back for updates on the Friday meeting.
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    It has begun........

    Your cards are starting to roll in already! We are storing them in our special Box of Voo Doo until the day of the lottery.
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    One post card

    I will be mailing my one post card today. If we get close to the deadline and GT indicates that there are more than 100 entries then I will send in more.

    Paul Jacobson

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    Oh, there'll be more than 100, Paul. I'm entering like a "Chicago Democrat." . Figure it'll cut down on the competition on-a-cuz-a dead people dns.

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    Shook me all night long

    Working double time
    On the seduction line
    She was one of a kind, she's just mine all mine
    She wanted no applause
    Just another course
    Made a meal out of me and came back for more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay
    Seriously where do you buy these ancient relics? I tried the grocery store, 2 gas stations and Target and came up empty. More searching tomorrow I guess
    Truck Stops! but don't feed the lot lizards....

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    Racing for beer?

    <a href="https://humenny.blogspot.com/"><img src="https://static.flickr.com/112/310769190_71a38f8fe5_o.jpg" width="160" height="159" alt="PADDY" /></a>
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    So does the winner need to consume the whole case at the first town? Not that I have a chance, but I wouldn't turn down the opportunity to help a brother/sister out.

    dp

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    Paddy is planning to donated an undisclosed amount of Guinness to the first racer to reach a designated point on the Trans-Iowa route. Mark and myself will choose this location.

    If you want this "dark beverage" you'll just have to make sure you are out front

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    Ok mabe i'll be

    Running 42x16 on the fixed to try and get the beer!

    Mmmmm Beer!
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    Even more....

    <a href="https://www.jedionabike.blogspot.com/"><img src="https://static.flickr.com/102/311282632_7f289c55a3.jpg" width="300" alt="ffl" /></a>
    Even more sponsors stepping up to offer beverages of the frothy variety!
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    See the latest update!

    New updates today. Enjoy!
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    Yes, the postcards are arriving...
    Please....I say PLEASE....keep the "man porn on a bike" postcards to a minimum!
    You know who you are

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    Change of tune

    I stated earlier that I would only send in one card. My conscience is forcing me to come clean that today I decided that I will in fact be sending in more than one in order to increase my chances.

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    Sent my postcard in today. Has some nudity on it. Don't worry....it's PG.

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    On the way

    Sent in a few...
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    Qualifier for SSWC?

    Trans Iowa V3 must be an un-official qualifier for the Single Speed Worlds, because I think we're running 3-1 single speed versus geared entries so far!

    Whats up widdat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Trans Iowa V3 must be an un-official qualifier for the Single Speed Worlds, because I think we're running 3-1 single speed versus geared entries so far!

    Whats up widdat?

    Cuz were freaks!

    And its a freakish event
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    SS Freaks :)

    Bring the pain
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    This is wrong....

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    My word

    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ


    Holly molly!!!! bet you guys didn't quite no what y'all where getting into did yah?
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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! In the mail...

    They're on their way.

    ...Consider yourselves warned.
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    What's next

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlahach
    I stated earlier that I would only send in one card. My conscience is forcing me to come clean that today I decided that I will in fact be sending in more than one in order to increase my chances.
    Gears? a stokemonkey?

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    wow

    I am loving this post card idea ,very entertaining.
    In fact I'm seriously considering throwing one in so I can meet the freaks who made them.
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    You know what that might do?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmsigurdur
    I am loving this post card idea ,very entertaining.
    In fact I'm seriously considering throwing one in so I can meet the freaks who made them.
    Dallas
    You throw in a post card and the next thing you know, someone that has sworn off racing for '07 will cave in and ask you to haul his sorry carcass down here so he can throw down to win his own preem.

    Speaking of post cards, we're up to 33 different folks that have thrown their name into the hat. Numbers of post cards are reaching terminal capacity for the Box of Voo Doo. I'll have to revamp and expand the capacity soon!
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    [QUOTE=Guitar Ted]You throw in a post card and the next thing you know, someone that has sworn off racing for '07 will cave in and ask you to haul his sorry carcass down here so he can throw down to win his own preem.

    I see you have your crystal ball up and running....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Trans Iowa V3 must be an un-official qualifier for the Single Speed Worlds, because I think we're running 3-1 single speed versus geared entries so far!

    Whats up widdat?
    Hmmm, well, if everybody else is doing it then it makes me think I should to (kinda like if everybody else jumped off of a bridge..). 3:1....really?

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    Postcard(s) are in the mail



    please, please, please, let me kick myself in the junk again.

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    get ready...

    I've decide that a road trip with paddy is to good to pass up so I'm sending his and my PC your way.
    Oh and Paddy, you've been officially notified
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmsigurdur
    I've decide that a road trip with paddy is to good to pass up so I'm sending his and my PC your way.
    Oh and Paddy, you've been officially notified
    Dallas " doing a 150 mile run then a 300+ bike ride two weeks later, and that's the plan" Sigurdur
    So the smart guys can all jump on Dallas' wheel this year. I think I'm gonna be one of them!

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    Soooo, I'm going to be a wus here. 320 miles, that's almost 3x the longest distance I've raced before. I've done 4,600 mile rides, but race, owch. Needless to say I'm going to have to work myself up (physically and mentally) for this one.

    What I want to know is if I send in my post card tomorrow and I get picked in the lottery, and then March 1st or something I decide I'm not on track to be ready for this race, and I decide to ***** out, will I be cheating some much more hardcore/macho dude/dudette out of their spot in the race or will there be a runners up list, so some lucky dog can slip in and take the spot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishMan473
    ...................

    What I want to know is if I send in my post card tomorrow and I get picked in the lottery, and then March 1st or something I decide I'm not on track to be ready for this race, and I decide to ***** out, will I be cheating some much more hardcore/macho dude/dudette out of their spot in the race or will there be a runners up list, so some lucky dog can slip in and take the spot?
    Here's the latest on the lottery situation. While several of you out there have seen fit to send in 100-200 postcards, (no joke!) just to ensure your spot in this grueling version of T.I., you might find it all in vain. At the current rate of deliveries, my estimates show an approximate roster of 70 or so. In that case, everyone gets in by default. I am not 100% sure this will hold out though, so don't get yer hopes up just yet!

    As a matter of fact, I came across a web community last night that plans on mailing in their entries over the weekend and if the numbers posted on their site turn out to be hard ones, we'll have a better chance of reaching 101 riders, which will put the lottery on "go mode"

    Now if you get in and bail at the last minute, then YES! You will have scuttled somebody elses chance if there is a lottery. If there is no lottery, than no big deal, okay? I hope that makes sense.

    If there are not 100 entries by the 15th of December, it will be up to Jeff and I to fill out the remaining spots........or not. I think we'd have to have a pretty convincing case presented before we would consider allowing any more entries beyond the 15th of December if we don't have 100. I'm comfortable with 70 - 100.

    Obviously if we do have 100, it's a moot point. Got it? Any questions? Ask away!
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    I've been mapping gaining and losing tributaries in the Upper Iowa River watershed. (Say, cruising a lot of pretty B's between Lime Springs and Decorah). Some signs reminding us not to cross flooded areas. Not an issue now, but come April...
    Anyway, lots of eagle sighting and such. May post pix when I get home for the weekend.

    This is going to be fun!

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    Less Than a Week To Go Till Registration Closes!

    Okay folks, with slightly less than a week to go, we are not on track to register 100 riders! This means we wouldn't have to employ the lottery. Whatever number we attain to by the time the mail is delivered to Europa Cycle and Ski on December 15th is the number that will get into the race. No more than that.

    If we get 100 plus, which at this point doesn't seem likely, we would indeed have the lottery on Saturday, December 16th.

    I personally hope we don't get 100 plus, because it's one less thing for Jeff and I to do and less folks to watch over come April. Also, keep in mind we are loosing $$$ on this event, so less folks means less $$$ lost! WaHoo!

    Anyway.........more course recon tomorrow............look for a report later!
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    tick tick

    Less than 100?

    "Walk away and taste the pain
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    A couple pix somewhere between Granger, Mn and Decorah, IA. Typical Galena Limestone gravel.
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    common people step up ,you know you want to

    I guess that means Paddy will be one of the few who has done TI every year. Sadly he has been registered in the open category. I did this so as to give him all the options and none of the hassle.
    I was wondering if those pictures were recent?
    If so , do you consider that winter ?
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    The pictures were taken yesterday morning, Dec. 8. Winter? Record high temps today. In fact I've only experienced a few days of winter since I moved back from Montana.

    It's not the cold it's the humidity.

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    Yeah! It is the humidity. I have a bad case of swamp ass here in Dec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd.sahib
    The pictures were taken yesterday morning, Dec. 8. Winter? Record high temps today. In fact I've only experienced a few days of winter since I moved back from Montana.

    It's not the cold it's the humidity.
    Heh, only 'cause you guys missed out on the freakn' blizzard in Illinois last week. We're covered!

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    Post Cards Must Be In By Friday!

    Okay, the deadline looms! This Friday, the 15th of December, we will close acceptance of post cards at the end of the day. Ya better get yers in now, if'n ya have not already!

    Note: The entries must be on a post card to be accepted!! No loose leaf binder paper people! We are going to discard any entries sent on standard notebook paper. (Yes, we did recieve entries on paper, and yes....they were discarded) Follow the simple rules stated here and at the website . It says "post card". Okay? Now, on to other things.....

    Finally, the lottery...........well, it's gonna be really close! Closer than I thought, and honestly, we've gotten more names than I thought we would already. 68 as of Saturday and counting, so if you have thoughts of, "Dang, I shoulda sent in more than one!" You might want to consider doing so. It wouldn't surprise me now to see this go into lottery mode. We got 18 entries in two days, (Friday and Saturday), so the rate is increasing, not decreasing. I suppose there are a lot of "last minute" folks out there, or something.

    So, that's the latest news. I won't be posting on this, unless there is a specific question, until Friday, when we will let you know if we've reached "lottery proportions"!
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    Just like to add, that we had a T.I. racer ride his bike to the shop yesterday to hand deliver his postcard entry. About 130 miles one way. Here is a little map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ
    Just like to add, that we had a T.I. racer ride his bike to the shop yesterday to hand deliver his postcard entry. About 130 miles one way. Here is a little map.
    Mapquest said it only took him 2hrs 48 minutes each way, he must have been really pedaling hard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted

    Note: The entries must be on a post card to be accepted!! No loose leaf binder paper people! We are going to discard any entries sent on standard notebook paper. (Yes, we did recieve entries on paper, and yes....they were discarded) Follow the simple rules stated here and at the website . It says "post card".

    "I've got to hand it to you guys, (and one gal.....so far!), you are a pretty creative bunch! The handmade cards are amongst my favorites. They range from photographs, to handmade cards of very artistic nature, to cards with Trans Iowa themes. I am thinking that these might have to be displayed somehow at the awards banquet, or on-line in a gallery. Maybe both. Really.........some of these cards are pretty cool! Then we have the "not for public viewing" cards, which some have amazed me from the sheer fact that they made it through the Post Office! Yikes! One last point about the post cards. You can get them here by any means that you want, but they have to be postcards, they have to have the four required bits of info on each card, and they have to arrive at Europa Cycle and Ski no later than December 15th. By "post card" I mean the size and shape has to be regulation size. You can send it in a 5' X 5' box if you like, but it has to be "post card" sized to be acceptable. Okay?
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    So according to the rules "loose-leaf" paper entries would be acceptable provided they are regulation size.

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    "I've got to hand it to you guys, (and one gal.....so far!), you are a pretty creative bunch! The handmade cards are amongst my favorites. They range from photographs, to handmade cards of very artistic nature, to cards with Trans Iowa themes. I am thinking that these might have to be displayed somehow at the awards banquet, or on-line in a gallery. Maybe both. Really.........some of these cards are pretty cool! Then we have the "not for public viewing" cards, which some have amazed me from the sheer fact that they made it through the Post Office! Yikes! One last point about the post cards. You can get them here by any means that you want, but they have to be postcards, they have to have the four required bits of info on each card, and they have to arrive at Europa Cycle and Ski no later than December 15th. By "post card" I mean the size and shape has to be regulation size. You can send it in a 5' X 5' box if you like, but it has to be "post card" sized to be acceptable. Okay?
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    So according to the rules "loose-leaf" paper entries would be acceptable provided they are regulation size.
    The USPS website has definitions as to what makes a regulation post card. Follow those and you are golden. It doesn't need to be store bought, it can be home made. But it has to follow the USPS regulations.

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    The USPS website has definitions as to what makes a regulation post card. Follow those and you are golden. It doesn't need to be store bought, it can be home made. But it has to follow the USPS regulations.
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    Dang. My 264 sheets of Charmin Ultra are only 4 1/2 x 4.

    That's $63.., well, down the toilet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastskiguy
    Mapquest said it only took him 2hrs 48 minutes each way, he must have been really pedaling hard!
    The 2 hrs 48 min is by car. He left at 9 AM and arrived at the shop around 4:30 PM. Word.

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    USPS Regs

    Man-
    I made 20 of my own postcards but now I don't know what size they are 'cause I already sent them in .

    Sure hope they make it there or back to me so I have time to get them there again if they don't make it.

    Does it count if I send a priority mail package with 20 postcards in it if the USPS rejects my first batch due to some wrong size problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Spahn
    Sure hope they make it there or back to me so I have time to get them there again if they don't make it.
    Are you in Dubuque? Are your postcards blue? If so, we received them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastskiguy
    Mapquest said it only took him 2hrs 48 minutes each way, he must have been really pedaling hard!
    Well, there was a sweet tailwind out of the South.

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    Cards!

    Yes they are and thank you for letting me know they got there!! Wooo Hoooo.

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    New question here. Bump

    Any updates on how many people have sent in postcards?

    Does it look like the raffle is a go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted

    So, that's the latest news. I won't be posting on this, unless there is a specific question, until Friday, when we will let you know if we've reached "lottery proportions"!
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    Oh the Suspence.....

    Come on Friday......damn it I'm all jacked up on coffee, feel like a crack baby without me bottle.....no hundy...no hundy....stop!

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    So is this drawing going to be at 12:01 AM Friday or Friday morning or afternoon or maybe 11:59PM Friday night? Ohh, the suspense!

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    Yeah... really. Waiting for the announcement wondering if I should get the bottle opener and open one in celebration or open one to work on a winter beer gut. Either way, I'm getting the opener, but anxious to know what's going to happen?

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    Well I'm guessing GT needs to wait until the mail comes tomorrow so it will be at least the afternoon.
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    road trippin'

    I'm actually a bit excited right now as TI would be my first road trip with a friend of the year. My earlier assaults will most likely be standard lonely drives to hook up with friends at the event.
    Although it's fun to burn up the road on your own time it's even more fun to drink redbull till your trippin out and talking till you run out of things to say. On the return trip you then retell battle tales and "coulda, shoulda, wouldas".

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    Speaking of trippin', I've been working up in the golden triangle this week (Decorah, Kendallville, Ridgeway). Early 90's flashbacks of Hovden Oil sponsored races and really fast people in tie-dyed jerseys, TeamSpleef, I think.

    Wish I coulda taken a bike today. Rain this morning and temps in the 50's makes for fast gravel. Steeper terrain and crushed rock drain faster than some of the flatter roads on v2. B's were muddy but passable, snow mobile trails, sans snow, definetly rideable

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    O.K, So it's Friday and.......

    Will there be a Lottery? That's the big question on everyone's mind.












    Well, we have to wait until we get our mail in today.

    Check back around noon CST, same bat-site, same bat-forum!

    I'll have the go or no-go announcement on the lottery and some itinerary for the roster posting and stuff then! Stay tuned...................
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    Oh, and by the way, it will take some time to get the race roster typed up and put online. 100 names.
    100 e-mail addy's.
    Etc, etc, etc.
    For sure, you will know if you are in Trans-Iowa by days end on Sunday.

    Now the question is.....will we receive 100 entrants to force the lottery

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    Come On Now....



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    Smile Counting Down the Hours

    Yeah I sent in 30 postcards and a check, but I'm from Iowa so I gotta get back to where it all started for me. Everyone should make a donation to keep this kind of racing going. Forget this $350 entry fee for no return.

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    Boys and Girls.....

    We have ourselves a LOTTERY!


    Jeff and I will do the honors at High Noon tomorrow. Results of said action will be reported on the Trans Iowa site at 2pm tomorrow or round abouts. Depends on how fast Jeff and I can get stuff up. Regardless, we will do our best to get the roster up in the afternoon.

    Now, don't be pestering us! It could be grounds for disqualification!

    Good luck to all..........
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    popping the cork

    the champagne is chilled. time for g-ted to pop the cork

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    holy crap!

    okay, I guess the champagne has to wait one more day. time to go ride instead of celebrating.

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    Wait another day...

    Well I never would have believed that over 100 entered. Time to go ride and if I don't get in perhaps I'll just RIDE TO IOWA to cheer people on
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    So, are you going to say how many entrants you have?


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    Quote Originally Posted by paulclimb510
    So, are you going to say how many entrants you have?

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    20 with 200 cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NonConformist
    20 with 200 cards.

    So how do you know this? For most of this it's the other 80 that matter

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    Doh!!!

    Heading out for gravel with the hopes of getting in........one card....one mission...one (wo)man......until then heres some new ink for you mates to look at
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrely1
    Heading out for gravel with the hopes of getting in........one card....one mission...one (wo)man......until then heres some new ink for you mates to look at

    ....and one gear too right? nice tat btw.

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    Special Announcement!!

    Go to www.transiowa.blogspot.com for a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!

    Read it and weep.....................................











    .....................................with tears of joy!
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Go to www.transiowa.blogspot.com for a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!

    Read it and weep.....................................











    .....................................with tears of joy!
    Classy decision.

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    Sawheat!!!

    You guys kick azz!!! Can't wait to meet all of you sick biatches Todays gravel ride with Teri Sue..... 23 hills.....38 miles...2:45:47 time......Teri is getting right back into the groove....2 months after having our baby Izabella.....datta girl!

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    sweet!

    I'm still not sure if I'm in or disqualified but I'm am promising to train harder (including even more long runs). I've bought a new 19" LCD monitor so I can relive 8 years of the tour while I grinding away on the trainer and my long runs are getting a little better each week.
    Thanks again to GT and JK for a fun opportunity this spring and a winter of focused training and maybe a bit of fear.
    Paddy, I'd like to apologize in advance about the open class registration but I figured you'd be better to have all the options than none.Even if you run an SS ( which I'm sure you will) everyone will know who's battling in out so it won't really matter anyway.
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    Roster Is Up!

    Roster is posted on the TI V3 blog.
    Make sure you are in the right category that you signed up for.
    Or if something is not right, make sure you get a hold of one of us.

    Happy training b1tches!

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    Getting on the roster

    Makes doing battle with a german shepard today worth it. First time I ever had to get off the bike and keep it between me and the dog ! Then the owner blames me !

    Hey Jeff, I'll be riding your old NRS , it seems to know the Iowa back roads ! and thanks for the winter motivation ! see ya in the spring !

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    a Christmas Miracle?

    Dallas: thanks for entering me again..I think...Naomi jokingly said "see ya May 1rst" earlier, as she believes my 8hr trainer rides will start tomorrow...maybe next week...

    Jeff and Mark: if you would, please put me in the deep end in the SS category, and thanks again for throwing this down again.

    Happy Holidays!!!

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    Makes doing battle with a german shepard today worth it. First time I ever had to get off the bike and keep it between me and the dog ! Then the owner blames me !
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    I have a dog, love dogs but I've been in this situation before and if the dog doesn't respond to my verbal commands to back off it's going to get a bike wheel right in the head. I'm not going to get bit...again.

    I'm on the roster for SS, time to obsess about gearing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyH
    ....and one gear too right? nice tat btw.

    You know it brother.....there can only be one.....and I'm sure it won't be me

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyH
    Jeff and Mark: if you would, please put me in the deep end in the SS category, and thanks again for throwing this down again.
    Your wish has been granted

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    Something old something new

    Well, I haven't gotten any NEW ink since 1982, but I tried out my new bionic shoulder, outside for the first time today... Thanks to an astute Physical Therapist and excellent rehab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyH
    Naomi jokingly said "see ya May 1rst" earlier, P
    I think there are a whole bunch of SO's that heard about the results of the "non-lottery", sighed, and thought exactly the same thing LOL!

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    Couple of things.....

    #1. We knew this was going to happen and it has. Guys calling, e-mailing, and whatever wondering why they are not on the roster for Trans Iowa V3. Here's the deal: we (a) never recieved your card by the 15th of December. We are not responsible for whatever happened to your cards in transit, but when they got here, they were documented and stored in the box that some of you may have seen a picture of. No one handled the cards but Jeff and myself. I can assure you that if we recieved it, we documented it and you got on the roster, if we recieved the card by the 15th. As an example, we recieved a stack of 20 cards on Saturday, a day late.

    (b) I mentioned this earlier, but if you didn't send a postcard, then we didn't accept it. Clearly stated in the registration rules. We were pretty lenient on what constituted a post card, but 8.5 X 11 sheets of ruled paper are not a post card. Sorry! No exceptions.

    #2. Guys are asking about hooking up for transportation to and from the Decorah area. We are suggesting that you use this thread to do your asking. You can then take your contacts off the thread and discuss, but this is where alot of those on the roster will be looking, so we figured it's the best place to ask for a ride.

    Again, we have let all accepted registrants as of the 15th of December in and we are not adding to that number! Sorry. Perhaps there will be a Trans Iowa next year to try to get into. Perhaps............

    We'll just see how this year's event goes, then we'll decide.
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    This reminds me of a guy talking about running a business. He said that you should expect a certain amount of complaining from customers. In fact, he claimed that people would complain, even if you didn't charge them anything! He thought it was just human nature or something.

    I knew for sure he was nuts but after reading GT's last post....?

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    thanks, guys, for letting us all in!

    wow, the women's field is small. this will be my first TI, but is this usual??

    either way, i'm looking forward to punishing my legs, ass, and liver in lovely Iowa.

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    I think you 4 are the first women.... I think It well be nice to meet yall
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    Hey guys....I read this on the site:

    "There have been some questions, ( as there have been every year we've done this) as to what the course will be. Other than to say that the course will begin and end in Decorah, we aren't saying. "

    But I have a quick question about the course So if it's top secret that's OK.

    Are you guys planning on running us thru a town every so-often....kinda like last year?

    Thanks

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    dumb newbie question:
    sleeping.
    do people sleep? how/where?

    (in case people don't sleep... do they sell Sparks in Iowa?)
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    Well if your planning a faster pace then 10 mph then you might be able to catch a nap...... I may sleep a little here and there..... last year there were plenty of gas station ect.... I'd still plan on carrying alot of calories.... Cookie dough is jeff's fav... I like nuts, little debbies, snickers, bananas, dried fruit and if a smell cooking pork products I HAVE to stop =)
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    Fastskiguy: That guy wasn't crazy, he was crazy like a fox! And he's spot on about the "no charge" thing. In fact, I think they complain even louder. On the course: That's no secret, Trans Iowa is laid out in such a manner that you can refuel at regular intervals. Although, I will say those intervals will be a bit different this time around!

    chimblysweep: You're welcome! It's great to have some gals step up to the plate again this year. Yes, I said again. Emily Brodersen (sp?) was in it the first two years and took the start both times, (I believe) There was another gal signed on last spring but did not show up. Sleeping? Not really an option at all. The course must be covered in 33-34 hours, (yet to be decided) and it will be about 320-330 miles in length, (still workin' on that) This usually equates to a 10mph average speed overall. That's misleading though. In reality, you must look at it as "how many miles must I cover per hour". In the case of T.I., we shoot for 10-11 miles that you must cover every hour. This includes stopping time. Doesn't sound too tough? Ask all the folks that never made it, or the only guys that ever did, nine in total. It's tougher than you think! What if you go slower? Well, you won't get to the halfway point in time to get your cue sheets for the second half, for one thing. There's more, but I'll save it for later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    in case people don't sleep... do they sell Sparks in Iowa?)
    Nope.
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    On a serious note: I think I have seen that stuff around...but it's not everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    wow, the women's field is small. this will be my first TI, but is this usual??
    I think the first year we had 4 register...but only 2 show up.

    Last year one registered...but did not show at all.

    4 ladies showing this year is good. I'd like to see you all do well, which I believe can be achieved.

    Happy LSD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    do people sleep? how/where?
    Only if they don't want to finish.

    Where do they sleep? On top of bags of salt at the local Kwik Marts

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    Semantics

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    Nope.
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    On a serious note: I think I have seen that stuff around...but it's not everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ
    On a serious note: I think I have seen that stuff around...but it's not everywhere
    Sparks is where it's at. Seriously. Every race (alleycats, of course... not legit stuff that wouldn't want you drinking) that I drink one before I've placed in.

    The caffiene gives you a serious energy kick. The alcohol makes you willing to take some risks. Perfect balance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    Perfect balance!
    Gotta plan ahead..You can't buy decent beverages between 2 a.m and noon Sunday. If you don't start early, you can't drink all day.
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    Gotta plan ahead..You can't buy decent beverages between 2 a.m and noon Sunday. If you don't start early, you can't drink all day.
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    Womens Division

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    It's great to have some gals step up to the plate again this year. Yes, I said again. Emily Brodersen (sp?) was in it the first two years and took the start both times, (I believe) There was another gal signed on last spring but did not show up.
    There was one gal that made it to the start last year...Sarah O'Brien. She lead her division the whole way and I was proud to ride with her! Ultimately she tied with the lead in in the mens division....DNF.
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    Thanks!

    taesch: Thanks for that info and the photo. I hadn't seen that one. I knew that we had women in the event before, but my details on it were sketchy. Thanks to you and the other posters for setting the record straight, .

    I have all of the records, of course, but they are not in an easily retrievable format, (ie: they are a mess of hardcopy in a three ring binder. One for each edition of the event!)

    It's one of those, "I'll get to it someday" things, ya know?

    Problem is that I get past one Trans Iowa and we decide to do another and off I go..........

    Not sure anybody would really be interested in the history of it anyway. But the point is, I have the records, I'm just not willing at this time to invest any energy into digging through it all.

    So, thanks for setting the record straight!
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    Travel help

    Well after a last minute scramble to the post office, I'm in. But I discovered after sending in my postcard that the fellows I thought I could tag along with are riding in a 2 seater pick-up, leaving me with few options.

    I didn't see any Amtrak or Greyhound routes that travel near Decorah, and flying into the little airport would be terribly costly.

    I need a ride. I'll pitch for gas, keep the car neat and promise not to be a bore. I'll have 1 bke and 1 bag. I'm in Pittsburgh, but can easily get to the Cleveland/Akron area to hook-up there, maybe even other points in Ohio.

    Anyone help a brother out?

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    Another Preem!

    A HUGE thanks goes out to past Trans-Iowa participant Bruce Nelson for offering up another preem to the person who completes his B-road task first. Details of the prize, and what you have to do to achieve the prize will be announced the night before the race.

    Bruce, if you are reading this, PM me your e-mail address.
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    Sponsorship

    Alright if my good buddy Bruce is going to pony up some stuff I should to. Jeff, what would you rather have cash or free stuff from some of my sponsors.

    See you out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ
    Nope.
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    On a serious note: I think I have seen that stuff around...but it's not everywhere
    Good luck finding a virgin goat with that crowd around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeunwin24hours
    Jeff, what would you rather have cash or free stuff from some of my sponsors.
    What ever works best for you. Sponsor stuff is always good. Spread the love....spread the love.

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    mr leenis

    lee train your arse off and make me proud.Wish we could hang out more ie front street goodness.Keep me postede as to how your trainings going and if you are going to be in this neck of the woods,Good luck bruce and robin

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    who's the oldest?

    So anybody older than 64 in the field? My dad mentioned something about finding some other old dude to ride with....he's *assuming* I'll be ahead of him but he's semi-retired so he has plenty of time to train. So anyway, any other older guys gonna take a stab at it?

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    I'm not the oldest

    But I'll be 46 when the race kicks off and I'm sure there will be plenty of guys that want to group together and just try and survive this race.You will have the Elite racers that want to win or be in the top 5 or 10 ,but some of us know were not going to compete with the big boys....I wish I could but some of these guys are going to be crazy fast !!

    As we get closer to the race maybe we can get a post up with some groups that want ride together, I'm sure some are already teaming up !

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    The hills will have something to say about groups.

    Quote Originally Posted by How27spd
    But I'll be 46 when the race kicks off and I'm sure there will be plenty of guys that want to group together and just try and survive this race.You will have the Elite racers that want to win or be in the top 5 or 10 ,but some of us know were not going to compete with the big boys....I wish I could but some of these guys are going to be crazy fast !!

    As we get closer to the race maybe we can get a post up with some groups that want ride together, I'm sure some are already teaming up !

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    Hills let alone hills made of gravel and hopefully dry gravel will be the great divide when a 100 plus riders hit the back roads of Iowa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ
    [URL="http://jeffkerkove.blogspot.com/2007/01/gravel-goo-recap.html"]The National Gravel Service is reporting "soupy" gravel conditions in the state of Iowa.
    Report filed Jan. 1, 2007
    Your bike is immaculate considering the road! Do you have it rubbed down with RainX?

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    Oh believe me......it's very dirty!

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlahach
    Your bike is immaculate considering the road! Do you have it rubbed down with RainX?
    He brought the nasty thing into the shop today and put it on display!
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    sooo lucky

    We got about 1 foot of snow this weekend . In fact there was so much the highways around Winnipeg were closed for a bit.
    I guess what I'm trying to say is that the northern posse will be training by other means and wing it come spring.
    ALL HAIL THE SNOW!!!!!
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    Trans Iowa V3 Recon: Oh So Close!

    Oh so close to being done, that is. Click on the link in my signature for my report on my blog.

    I got a couple more bridge pictures for Dallas I'll post up later!
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    TI Training Rides....

    Some people are putting in some pretty f'n cool training rides!!

    Here is a link to a slide show from a ride down by Ames, IA

    Here's a story...with DEATH!

    And a dirty Squirrel.

    Keep 'er moving guys!!

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    Another prize......



    This just in....

    Lindsay "Cycling Moses" Gauld, one of last years riders to make it the furthest distance, has offered up a prize to the Men's and Women's overall winners. He is going to give the winners free entry into the RED ASSiniboine 300, on June 9 and 10, 2007 in Manitoba. Plus each winner will get 2 nights lodging at his B & B.

    Cool!

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    The "Roll Call"

    Just an advanced warning that Jeff and I will be putting out the "Roll Call" for the final roster list about a month prior to the event. We are trying to avoid printing too many cue sheet sets this year.

    In the meantime, if you are not coming to T.I.V3 for whatever reason, please let us know ASAP. You can go to the T.I.V3 website and get a link to e-mail either Jeff or myself in the right sidebar on the webpage.

    We'll put up a thread here about a month prior, so you will be aware of how and when to respond if you want a cue sheet set. Notices will also be on our blogs and at the T.I.V3 website. Don't worry, and don't e-mail us about reserving a cue sheet set now! We're just getting a head start on finding out who's not coming, so we can adjust the roster accordingly.
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    Gearing

    Well I'm sure it will come up eventually so I'll put mine out there. Right now I've got parts for a 40x16 coming (26er"). 36x18 is nowhere near enough on anything fast. I must have been pedalling 160rpms trying to keep up with Pedala on his fixie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay
    Well I'm sure it will come up eventually so I'll put mine out there. Right now I've got parts for a 40x16 coming (26er"). 36x18 is nowhere near enough on anything fast. I must have been pedalling 160rpms trying to keep up with Pedala on his fixie.
    I agree and disagree.

    This is 330 miles with legs pointing to each direction of the compass. We are basically guaranteed a tailwind, a crosswind, and a headwind. Assuming this really is "one big ass loop" that is a perfect square and that the wind doesn't shift around (some big assumptions, but I have to start somewhere), we can assume about 80 miles of headwind, 160 miles of crosswind, and 80 miles of tailwind.

    Obviously you want a high gear for tailwinds and a low gear for headwinds. Having too low a gear with a tailwind slows you down, but doesn't kill your ride. But having too high a gear with a headwind slows you down and potentially sends you home early. So the question I have asked myself is "what is the highest gear I could manage for 80 miles, without rest, with a 15 mph headwind, on gravel, and with significant hills". And the answer I came up with was right back in the 2:1 range. Yes, I will be silly-slow for the tailwind section, and I will be somewhat slow for the crosswind section, but at least I am confident I can finish on this gear.

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    gearing

    Surely this is the one thing that all the SS's and fixies are pondering. I'm running 38-17 - 60.3 gear inches (700c). Another buddy is at 34-18 on 26's and we roll in just over a 15mph average on LSD rides. My gear spins out quickly on the road making it a pain for commuting, but it is perfect for cyclocross, so I got faith. Gatta remember to think about how it will feel at mile 287, not mile 87. Tire size/weight and the amount of gear you carry also makes a difference. (yes, I am ANAL-izing the hell out of it)

    This weekend we are doing a 140m. Unfortunately we don't have alot of gravel in TN, so we have to mix pavement between to get to it, and that does make a difference. I'll post the results next week. If you live near Nashville and want to come along for this or another training ride, you can shoot me a message at my blog.

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    gears beers rears

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hensley

    Anyone else have input from a 100+ SS or fixie ride?
    I ran 2:1 SS last year at Dirty Kanza 200 on a 26er and it was way too low but the conditions were perfect wind and road-wise. My butt grew tired way before my legs. I now have a 29er so will prob. run a similar ratio (taller gear) as I'm not opposed to walking up hill if I slow down to 3 mph or so.

    Now that I can buy beer Sunday morning, I may need to reevaluate. Dang, move away for a decade or so and look what happens, next thing you know they'll allow gambling casinos...

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    Choices choices choices!

    I just did ~100 SS not long ago including dirt road, off road and pavement, all kinds of wind and cold too. Gearing was 2:1 on 2.1" Racing ralphs. It was not enough gear for me. Will 40x16 be too tall? Maybe. I've also got 40x18 and 36x16 to fall back on as well as 36x18, my standard offroad gear even here in Colorado. I'm going to start training with 40x16 and see what my legs say. If it's too tall or conditions look horrendous the night before the race, I'll step down a bit. We're all going to have to choose for ourselves but my butt will never survive spinning out for hours so 2:1 seems way too low for me. My legs and knees are much more adaptable. It's a gamble on one gear any way you look at it! I guess that's why it's fun
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    I just wrote about this on my blog yesterday. I think I'm gonna run fixed 42x20 with 700x38 treads. I can comfortably spin at about 16 mph and max out at about 30 mph. This will let me stay seated on rolling hills and still not struggle too much going into the wind. Drop bars will also get me out of the wind too.

    My only concern is if I can spin a small gear that long. It's not the distance I'm thinking about anymore but the time turning the cranks. Just the shear number of revolutions is scary.

    My longest day ride was 190 miles with camping gear pushing a 42x17. Legs were cooked but joints and tendons felt ok. Followed up with 120 the next and then 90 to finish. Had some it band strain but felt better within a week. Pinky and ringe finger went numb on the right had though for a while. Like I said it's the amount of time that matters more than distance.
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    I'm thinking 38x17 with a big 29er tire but we well see dependent on weather and how i'm feeling the end of April...

    Cris I sure wouldn't want to sping that low of a gear with an slr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    I'm thinking 38x17 with a big 29er tire but we well see dependent on weather and how i'm feeling the end of April...

    Cris I sure wouldn't want to sping that low of a gear with an slr
    Haha. Your 29er with 38x17 is darn close to my 26er with 40x16

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    [QUOTE=SlowerThenSnot]I'm thinking 38x17 with a big 29er tire but we well see dependent on weather and how i'm feeling the end of April...

    Let's throw in tire choice as well. The cross chick is running WTB Allterrainasaurus 35's right now. I really dig them, but they feel like regular cross tires coated in mud. HEAVY

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    26er tires

    Kenda Klimax lites. $29.99 at pricepoint right now. Both of mine weighed under the claimed 345g's and I have ran them at Leadville and in a few XC races (nervously) sucessfully. Take a pretty high pressure and mine worked fine with stans although they take a little work to seal at first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    I'm thinking 38x17 with a big 29er tire but we well see dependent on weather and how i'm feeling the end of April...

    Let's throw in tire choice as well. The cross chick is running WTB Allterrainasaurus 35's right now. I really dig them, but they feel like regular cross tires coated in mud. HEAVY

    Suggestions?...
    Ah...tires....now this is a good one. I'm shooting for big volume, little tread, and a thin casing....maybe run tubeless. I think it'll be easiest to roll over the gravel. It seems a lot of people like the idea of narrow and firm but I'm thinking wide and soft.

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    Almost certain I'll be runnin' 34:16 with 29" Nanos. MAYBE a 1.8/45c cross tire. I don't expect too much of the course in eastern Iowa to be flat, lots of loooong rollers, and likely a good bit of wind.

    Also, I imagine one would want to feel undergeared at the start.

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    WTB makes the Mutanoraptor 29'er 1.85. Surly told me the biggest they have been able to get on the Check is the Panaracer Fire Cross 45c. The WTBs are 44. Lookie-http://www.wtb.com/tires_wtb29er.html I am really leaning that way. There are quite a few 38 and 40s I like, but thinking size/cush matters. especially after I empty a few beers...
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    Might I suggest.....

    The Bontrager XR 1.8 tires? Run a front specific on both ends of your rig. I saw a guy run these tubeless at Dirty Kanza to a decent result.
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    I'm just a beginner here

    so I'll be running a 34x17 or 18 with the Nano's on the Monkey but that could change to a Badger.....we'll see.....my legs are slow now....still have time too whoop'em into some shape.....finish...finish...finish...that is all I want....don't care where

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrely1
    so I'll be running a 34x17 or 18 with the Nano's on the Monkey but that could change to a Badger.....we'll see.....my legs are slow now....still have time too whoop'em into some shape.....finish...finish...finish...that is all I want....don't care where

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrely1
    .....finish...finish...finish...that is all I want....don't care where

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    The Bontrager XR 1.8 tires? Run a front specific on both ends of your rig. I saw a guy run these tubeless at Dirty Kanza to a decent result.
    They look nice. I like the fact they don't have big-chunky side knobs. Guess a trip to the local Truk dealer is in order. Still not going tubeless though. Seen too many have issues at very in-opportune times. I plan to carry a couple tubes, patch kit, and pump. Non of them-there new fangled tech-no-ologies. I'd hate to haul 5 CO2 cartridges for 29 hours, just to have them along for the ride.

    I would like to thank everyone who posted about gearing. Being quite satisfied with my 38-17, after a gusty morning ride now I am questioning THAT too. A buddy of mine says it best,"the beauty of single speed is that you're stuck with either a good decision, or a bad one; and you'll get to think about it for a long, long time." Here's to everyone in the SS/Fixie class smiling at mile 302; suffering, but smiling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hensley
    They look nice. I like the fact they don't have big-chunky side knobs. Guess a trip to the local Truk dealer is in order. Still not going tubeless though. Seen too many have issues at very in-opportune times. I plan to carry a couple tubes, patch kit, and pump. Non of them-there new fangled tech-no-ologies. I'd hate to haul 5 CO2 cartridges for 29 hours, just to have them along for the ride.

    I would like to thank everyone who posted about gearing. Being quite satisfied with my 38-17, after a gusty morning ride now I am questioning THAT too. A buddy of mine says it best,"the beauty of single speed is that you're stuck with either a good decision, or a bad one; and you'll get to think about it for a long, long time." Here's to everyone in the SS/Fixie class smiling at mile 302; suffering, but smiling.
    That is an awesome quote.

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    You know better than that dp!

    Quote Originally Posted by bd.sahib
    If memory serves me correctly, I think it was Eddy Merckx early in 1968 who said something like,

    "Im glad I am crazy, it keeps me trying
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    TI Lighting....

    I know lighting is a hot topic at times. I was over on CatEye's website and came across a new head-lamp-style light they have coming out very soon. Looks like it might be a good option, among the many out there.
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    I made a few mods to convert it for use on my handlebar. Very bright, good run time, only real complaint is not so glove-friendly buttons.

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    Cold Weather Rain Gear

    There are a few of us from the Nashville area signed up for TI3. in preparation we have the occasional "deathmarch" ride to guage our training and progress as well as mentally toughen ourselves. Yesterday was DM2. And it was a spectacular failure. The furthest anyone got was about 20 miles. The reason for this was lack of appropriate gear for the weather we faced. On this particular day, we had the pleasure of heavy rains on a 35 degree day. Had the temp. been warmer or cooler, or the rain less torrential, then we would have made it at least 30 miles, but as it was, I lasted about a half hour before I was completely drenched and in a great deal of pain from the cold. Each of us had rain coats on so our core was fine, it was mainly the fingers and toes.

    So a big concern is that upon making the trip up to Iowa, if presented with similar weather, I want my ride to last more than an hour or two. I can handle getting some better rain pants and jacket, but need to figure something more for the hands and feet. We have been riding for a number of years and tried many things, but have never been faced with this dilemma enough to really peg a solution. Does anyone have any idea for how to keep hands and feet dry/warm for extended periods of heavy rain in the context of a ride like the TI?

    Any ideas would be appreciated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by troyef
    There are a few of us from the Nashville area signed up for TI3. in preparation we have the occasional "deathmarch" ride to guage our training and progress as well as mentally toughen ourselves. Yesterday was DM2. And it was a spectacular failure. The furthest anyone got was about 20 miles. The reason for this was lack of appropriate gear for the weather we faced. On this particular day, we had the pleasure of heavy rains on a 35 degree day. Had the temp. been warmer or cooler, or the rain less torrential, then we would have made it at least 30 miles, but as it was, I lasted about a half hour before I was completely drenched and in a great deal of pain from the cold. Each of us had rain coats on so our core was fine, it was mainly the fingers and toes.

    So a big concern is that upon making the trip up to Iowa, if presented with similar weather, I want my ride to last more than an hour or two. I can handle getting some better rain pants and jacket, but need to figure something more for the hands and feet. We have been riding for a number of years and tried many things, but have never been faced with this dilemma enough to really peg a solution. Does anyone have any idea for how to keep hands and feet dry/warm for extended periods of heavy rain in the context of a ride like the TI?

    Any ideas would be appreciated...
    There are waterproof gloves on the market, as well as waterproof winter shoes. The gloves will run $40-$60, the shoes $150-$300. Not a cheap solution, but a solution.

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    OK, I was going to hold my toung since I don't have much endurance racing experience, but I'd done a lot of riding in a whole lot of conditions and I've just got to say...

    I can't imagine that if it is indeed pouring rain that you could possible stay dry for this event. It's just not going to happen. The best I've done with a full gore-tex set up is stay dry for about 45 minutes. If it is pouring rain, then you should focus on cloths that will allow you to retain warmth even when wet. Maybe a wool baselayer? synthetic chamois, wool socks, etc.

    Now, that being said, if it is pouring rain on game day I'm bailing out. Call me a pansie if you will, but sever wetness like that will almost certainly ensure that I will not finish, and that I will do several hundred dollars worth of damage to my bike in the process of failing. No thanks.
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    I'm with the above poster, if it rains long enough, you won't remain dry.

    I am unaware of a truly waterproof glove or shoe for cycling. A few glove makers have claims that their gloves are waterproof, but most seem to leak if used long enough in wet weather. I have a customer in a wheelchair who has returned 3 different brands of "waterproof" gloves because they leak.

    I own a pair of Lake winter shoes, and they are far from waterproof. Water leaks in through the bottom(cleat holes) the leather part of the uppers(stitching) and the stupid Neoprene uppers(neoprene isn't waterproof). Is there something else out there that is waterproof?

    My solution is wool. Wool keeps you warm when wet, something most s can't do. Wool socks are easy to find, wool gloves that are not ragg-wool, much harder to find.

    The other thing I have never found to work is rain pants. If it is warm enough to rain, I overheat in them at any kind of fast pace, if it is cold enough that I don't overheat it's snowing. My favorite pants for the rain are an old pair of wool blend dress pants turned into knickers. I bet I've commuted over a hundred days in one pair in 2006, in temps from high twenties to the low seventies and can't complain one bit. They breah when it's hot, insulate when cold, and never get clammy when wet. The best part? try it for yourself, plenty of wool dress pants at the Goodwill for under $10.

    Of course your mileage may vary.

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    Pansie.....

    What's a couple hundred dollars of damage if that were to actually happen? Money comes and goes throughout your whole life, it means ****. But the experience of charging through a difficult situation such as the one posed last year, those memories last a lifetime, and you'll never get those memories if you don't at least show up on the start line and try...

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    You're no pansie

    Quote Originally Posted by FishMan473
    OK, I was going to hold my toung since I don't have much endurance racing experience, but I'd done a lot of riding in a whole lot of conditions and I've just got to say...

    I can't imagine that if it is indeed pouring rain that you could possible stay dry for this event. It's just not going to happen. The best I've done with a full gore-tex set up is stay dry for about 45 minutes. If it is pouring rain, then you should focus on cloths that will allow you to retain warmth even when wet. Maybe a wool baselayer? synthetic chamois, wool socks, etc.

    Now, that being said, if it is pouring rain on game day I'm bailing out. Call me a pansie if you will, but sever wetness like that will almost certainly ensure that I will not finish, and that I will do several hundred dollars worth of damage to my bike in the process of failing. No thanks.
    Heh, last year it was 50 degrees and lightly raining and the farthest anybody made it was about 130 miles. I rode for about 11 hours and I can tell you, it wasn't the fact that my hands and feet were a little wet that made me raise the white flag. I don't think any of us "average guys" needs to worry about how to stay dry for the event if its raining hard....we'll have plenty (PLENTY!) to worry about even if the conditions are perfect.

    Now those wool dress pants...you've got to post a picture of that!

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    I've come to the realization there is no rain gear that will work for me. Breathable means I'll be soaked with sweat in 20 minutes instead of 5 minutes with rain. Aerobic activiety and rain gear don't mix. When you have 90% humidity outside and 100% humidity inside your jacket there's not much breathing. Pants are even worse with no way to vent.

    Layering is key. I like synthetic base with wool or fleece top layers. Once you're wet the best you can hope for is that your body can warm the water closest to you so you don't feel so cold. This is when wind resistant stuff helps. Usually I just were Dickes cut off into knickers, shants, man-pri's whatever you call them with synthetic boxers or Capilene tights if really cold. Feet ususally get cycling socks under wool socks with toe covers. Not perfect but it works. Hands are tougher. I've already resorted to plastic grovery bags over soaked gloves. Hands did warm up but I was draining water out of the bags. Don't be afraid to go ghetto if it gets you home.

    I think the best bet is to get used to being uncomfortable. We're much better off with equipment and clothing now than ever before. Keep riding the 'hard man' miles and think of the old days of the tour and how these guys would ride.

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    150 Mile Trans Iowa Training Ride

    I will be putting on a "little" ride on Saturday, March 24th around Ames, Iowa. This ride will have cue sheets just like past Trans Iowa versions and will have more tough hills than you will care to climb.

    Here are the details. Please leave a comment if you are interested.
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    Re the feet and hands questions:

    Always tricky. If it's cold but still raining, you have two issues: staying warm and fighting convective heat loss. A rain shell, shoe covers, nylon gloves all combat the later, synthetic, wool and neoprene the former. If you're going to be soaked, neo socks and gloves rule. Though neither is fully windproof.

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    suck it up butter cup

    That's what my friend Matt tells me when I start to crack.
    I guess I'd also like to vouch for the wonder material wool (which I use year round for running, work and biking) and the ointment of the gods,sport balm(hot).
    I think the best thing you can do in a bad situation is slather yourself in the balm, cover up with wool and chase down a friend who's slightly faster than you.

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    I have the Lake Winter shoes as well, and they are a joke if it is pouring. They are perfect for snow and really cold weather, even light rain, but if they get soaked, your dead. I am going to do wool, show covers, and carry some chemical warmers. Does anyone have experience with the Pearl Izumi AMphib shoe covers in heavy rain? Any others? I know my feet will eventually get wet, but if they get cold I'm a done for.

    I have a couple jackets from REI that are waterproof. They work well because they have pit-zips that you can open to regulate heat build up. I have some rain pants as well, which have zippers up the back side on the bottom so you can get them on/off with shoes on, they do the same thing as the pit zips. I have used the stuff in pouring rain in different temperatures and it works very well. It will set you back a few $$$ but if you commute, it is worth it big time. I am going to hit the Goodwill and try the wool knickers, that sounds fantastic.

    I ordered a pair of Craft Siberian gloves yesterday after the above mentioned Death March in TN. Anyone try 'em?

    Headgear. Walzcaps.com Get a wool with ear-flaps. I have used it from 18-60 degrees and it rocks.

    Remember, you might not need this gear for TI, but you will surely need it at some point if you plan to do endurane races, training, commute, and such. ...and I don't care if there is 5 feet of snow, my bike is on fire, and the devil himself is trying to stab me in the eye with an icepick, I'm lining up and throwing everything I have at this SOB.
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    My grandfather on my mother's side was Norwegian and he always dipped his hands in ice water or rubbed them in snow to "stimulate circulation." Of course he washed his hair in gasoline in the winter so it would dry faster and used a 50 gallon garbage sack to sail-xc ski on Clear Lake, IA (to the tune of 35 mph) until his eyesight started to fail ~ 70 yrs old.

    I've been using some felted wool liner mitts w/ nylon occlusive shells when it's really cold. Feet, I usually ride w/ booties sub 35ish F and may use a heat pack below about 15 F. Thin wool liners and Pearl Izumi shell gloves for wet above freezing. Wet weather stuff just seems to prolong the inevitable. Balm and wool, like Dallas said, works for me too.

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    Wool is the way to go. At TI V2 I had to stop and wring the water out of my wool mitts and wool socks every couple of hours but wanting to quit due to being cold was never a problem, (sore knees, sore butt, mindnumbing fatigue and near insanity from wind and rain and mush roads perhaps but not cold). Nearly 40 years ago at a mountaineering course in Colorado our old school instructor showed us how to pick out wool clothes from the Good Will store for a pittance. We looked like vagabonds on the trail compared to the current nattily clad crowd but never lacked for warmth.

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    Laughing at the weather.

    Thanks Dan Hensley for making me almost put my morning coffee through my nose!!

    "and I don't care if there is 5 feet of snow, my bike is on fire, and the devil himself is trying to stab me in the eye with an icepick, I'm lining up and throwing everything I have at this SOB."

    Totally awesome....I'm with you until the devil puts down his icepick and goes for the chainsaw

    And yes, great praise for wool, hard work, windproof shells and the consumption of massive calories!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hensley
    I have the Lake Winter shoes as well, and they are a joke if it is pouring. They are perfect for snow and really cold weather, even light rain, but if they get soaked, your dead. I am going to do wool, show covers, and carry some chemical warmers. Does anyone have experience with the Pearl Izumi AMphib shoe covers in heavy rain? Any others? I know my feet will eventually get wet, but if they get cold I'm a done for.

    I have a couple jackets from REI that are waterproof. They work well because they have pit-zips that you can open to regulate heat build up. I have some rain pants as well, which have zippers up the back side on the bottom so you can get them on/off with shoes on, they do the same thing as the pit zips. I have used the stuff in pouring rain in different temperatures and it works very well. It will set you back a few $$$ but if you commute, it is worth it big time. I am going to hit the Goodwill and try the wool knickers, that sounds fantastic.

    I ordered a pair of Craft Siberian gloves yesterday after the above mentioned Death March in TN. Anyone try 'em?

    Headgear. Walzcaps.com Get a wool with ear-flaps. I have used it from 18-60 degrees and it rocks.

    Remember, you might not need this gear for TI, but you will surely need it at some point if you plan to do endurane races, training, commute, and such. ...and I don't care if there is 5 feet of snow, my bike is on fire, and the devil himself is trying to stab me in the eye with an icepick, I'm lining up and throwing everything I have at this SOB.
    I just got the Gaerne winter shoes from Ebay for $150. Right now there is about a foot of snow on the ground and it is in the 10-20 degree range, so I haven't had a chance to ride them in the rain. I don't know for sure how well they work in the rain, but the continuous tongue and the retention system sure look like they would be waterproof. I also know that for a cool $300 you can buy GoreTex clad shoes from Sidi that should be truly waterproof, but I am not spending $300 on a specialized pair of shoes.

    BTW, I attempted Trans-Iowa last year and used winter booties for my feet. After walking a mile in the mud the toes of the booties worked their way up and off of my toes and filled with mud. I am sure I was carrying several pounds of mud in each bootie. It was like walking with cement blocks attached to my feet. It wasn't very cool, and contributed to my very slow pace. This is one of my reasons for getting these Gaerne shoes, to prevent any possibility of a repeat of that.

    I would really be curious how much extra weight I had to carry through that first B road when I became a mudcicle. I am guessing that the total mud and water weight was in the 40lb+ range, on top of my bike and gear. For a skinny guy like me with no arm muscle to speak of, it was a killer.

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    Another new sponsor....

    Word travels pretty fast about Trans-Iowa.
    All the way to Vista, CA to be exact!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ
    Word travels pretty fast about Trans-Iowa.
    All the way to Vista, CA to be exact!
    I am happy to announce that the folks over at Walz Caps have throw'n in some sweet caps to add to the growing swag bin.

    Wow, those look sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedala
    Thanks Dan Hensley for making me almost put my morning coffee through my nose!!

    "and I don't care if there is 5 feet of snow, my bike is on fire, and the devil himself is trying to stab me in the eye with an icepick, I'm lining up and throwing everything I have at this SOB."

    Totally awesome....I'm with you until the devil puts down his icepick and goes for the chainsaw

    And yes, great praise for wool, hard work, windproof shells and the consumption of massive calories!!

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    a little trick they used in 'nam....take two pairs of socks and gloves, change them every three hours or so. the funky wet pair (after a squeeze and bit o'baby powder) goes around your mid section. they dry quite well and are warm when you change them so you get a little moral boost.
    here in portland,or i use this techneque often and it works well

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    New Info!

    Well guys, after a long and arduous process, I have some figures for ya all ta chew on during your winter training. You all needed something to think about this winter, right?

    I have compiled all the info from the separate recons and formulated the cue sheet info. It has been handed off to Jeff to format into it's final form. That should be done in a few days or so.

    The overall mileage for the big a$$ed loop is 320.1 miles, give or take a few tenths. There are 9 miles of route that need to be rechecked to get a final hard number, but what's nine miles amongst friends?

    There will be a "half way point", as in years past that will serve as the spot to get your second set of cue sheets, and for us to get a handle on who is in or out by then. Once again, there will be a time limit to get there, or you won't be able to secure your second set of sheets to continue. Same as always. Any questions so far?

    As it worked out, the distance and time for the first "half" worked out as it has for the first two editions of the event. Distance to the "check in" is 127.9 miles, ( almost exactly the same distance it was to Algona!) So, it will be a 6 o'clock cut off time, just like in years past. The actual location of the "halfway" point is not going to be revealed, as it won't matter at all to anyone but the folks in the event, and you are on your own, self supported, no drop bags, no nuttin'! Yes, there is a convenience store "near" the check in, and that's all I'll say.

    192.2 will be the remaining mileage to Decorah. Through the night, and until 3pm the following day is all you'll have to finish the event in. Crunch the numbers any way you'd like, but this is a hard and fast parameter.

    Convenience stores will be sprinkled through out the route. Some closely spaced, and depending on one cities convenience store opening time on Sunday, there could be as long as an 80 plus mile slog between stops. Prepare for the worst!

    We will have the special race preems figured out later, but let me say this. Whoever gets them will have to earn them!

    Okay, pretty standard T.I. stuff, but you newbies may have some questions. Fire away!
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    One question about the 'half way point', I'm not asking where it's at but can you clue us in as to how far it is from Decorah? Just wondering in case someone (not me of course) doesn't make the cut off we could still have some dignity and roll back to the start on our own.

    That is unless you're sending us out in a straight line from Decorah and then the best bet is to backtrack. That would be evil.
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    So, we are getting 14 hours to make it to the cut off this time? That would ease a lot of people's minds.

    Thanks for all the hard work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulclimb510
    So, we are getting 14 hours to make it to the cut off this time? That would ease a lot of people's minds.

    Thanks for all the hard work!
    Yeah, that math does sound a little funny. If the start is at 4:00 am and we have until 6:00 pm for the first time cut, that is 14 hours. If we have 128 miles to cover in 14 hours that works to a minimum of 9.14 MPH on the bike. I don't remember any exacts, but last year I believe we had to average about 11 MPH for the first time check.

    If my numbers are right, that would be most welcome.

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    Half way point and time thoughts....

    Hey, fxdwhl, check out paragraph #5 in my last post for the answer on mileage.

    Remember folks, you are responsible for you! If you don't make the half way check in by 6pm, you'll need a plan to get yourself back to Decorah. That's entirely up to you. I suggest that you have a person available to fetch you regardless of where you end up. If you are on your own, well..........you are on your own! That said, it's not like you're going to be in a wilderness area with nobody around for miles. Iowans are generally a nice, hospitable, and generous bunch, so you shouldn't want for help.

    As to the 14 hours: perhaps there is a reason for that amount of time......ehh? Think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    As to the 14 hours: perhaps there is a reason for that amount of time......ehh? Think about it.
    This doesn't have to do with the Preems, does it? Like eating entrails? Or swimming with leaches? I'd like to be on the record with being down with bungee jumping or something involving zip lines but, unless somethings been under a heat lamp for at least 4 hrs., I'm not real interested in ingesting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Hey, fxdwhl, check out paragraph #5 in my last post for the answer on mileage.

    Remember folks, you are responsible for you! If you don't make the half way check in by 6pm, you'll need a plan to get yourself back to Decorah. That's entirely up to you. I suggest that you have a person available to fetch you regardless of where you end up. If you are on your own, well..........you are on your own! That said, it's not like you're going to be in a wilderness area with nobody around for miles. Iowans are generally a nice, hospitable, and generous bunch, so you shouldn't want for help.

    As to the 14 hours: perhaps there is a reason for that amount of time......ehh? Think about it.
    Well, being that the Decorah area is monster-freaking-hilly, I would say that you are trying to compensate for our slow starting speed. Perhaps the terrain gets less hilly as we go?

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    So if I do the math correctly factoring in the hilly terrain of that part of Iowa, we could be climbing for 7 hours and descending for 7 hours until the half-way point. Looks like I'll be heading to the hills for my training this year.

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    Anyone want to share more info about the hills in Iowa?

    Elevation? Grade? Distance?

    Are we talking 3000 ft climbs or 300? 5% grade or 15% 1/4 mile or 2 miles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonassterling
    Anyone want to share more info about the hills in Iowa?

    Elevation? Grade? Distance?

    Are we talking 3000 ft climbs or 300? 5% grade or 15% 1/4 mile or 2 miles?
    Short and steep, by any national standard. I'm sure the're a couple around that gain more than a few hundred, but not many. Issue is, as Ted has mentioned, it takes a darn steep grade to induce Iowa surveyors to go around anything.

    The worst'll be the 3% 2 mile rollers into a stiff headwind.

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    Decorah area hills

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    I am not an expert on the Decorah hills even though I live in Iowa, but I have ridden in the area and this was my experience. Lots and lots of rollers. A lot of 70-100 foot (vertical drop) descents that are probably a 1/5 to a 1/4 of a mile down then quickly back up. Then there are the rollers that close in on the 1/2 a mile distance with a 100-200 foot (vertical drop). Occassionally, a rider will ride a some what level road and get to a climb of a mile in length with a vertical rise of 250-300 feet. There may be some ascents of 500 or so feet, but those are rare (well.... let's hope so!). Honestly, when I rode the last 95 miles of the TI V.1 route last spring in preparation for TI V.2 I thought that if I pedalled a bit on the down hills the momentum helped me make it halfway up the other side. There were only 2 major climbs that I remember that did not have a downhill preceeding it. Those climbs were about a mile long at what I would call a 7 or so percent grade.

    Now... GT is going to smoke us this year and I am confident that we will be doing many of these climbs. That is an understatement I am sure! Knowing GT's thrill of seeing people suffer in the worst way we just might need to bring some ropes and pulley's to drag our bikes up the hills he has included this year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonassterling
    Anyone want to share more info about the hills in Iowa?

    Elevation? Grade? Distance?

    Are we talking 3000 ft climbs or 300? 5% grade or 15% 1/4 mile or 2 miles?
    There's a couple of organized rides in SW Wisconsin that gain 10,000 feet in 200K and the topography in NE Iowa is similar so if those crazy organizers wanted to brutal, it could be really really tough, maybe impossible for "regular" people.

    I mean, really, they didn't charge an entry fee and last year nobody even made it half way, so you just don't know what these guys are going to do, right? I'm bringing my walking shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastskiguy
    I'm bringing my walking shoes
    Yeah, me too. Then there's this icicle-chompin' luddite from Ames who threatened to use a kick bike.
    I've been working in that area a bit this winter, driving crissity-cross a lot of gravel. Raced some of the late 1980's early 90's gravel grinders, too. Guess I'd say around 10% grade, tops. Longish climbs are probably on the mile-ish to that-and-a half. Maybe longer on the paved pig haulin' roads. I moved back this way after stints in Tucson, AZ and Missoula, MT and the main difference between the long climbs in those areas and the shorter ones here is the ability to find a rythm while climbing and then recovering on the downhill, where the NE IA hills are relentless flyweights. More anaerobic maybe? I built a 3-d model of the NE 1/4 of the state in Arcscene but without severe verticle exageration it's hard to pick out. Anyway, here's a link to the Decorah quad.
    http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=...G&size=l&s=500

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulclimb510
    Jon-

    I am not an expert on the Decorah hills even though I live in Iowa, but I have ridden in the area and this was my experience. Lots and lots of rollers. A lot of 70-100 foot (vertical drop) descents that are probably a 1/5 to a 1/4 of a mile down then quickly back up. Then there are the rollers that close in on the 1/2 a mile distance with a 100-200 foot (vertical drop). Occassionally, a rider will ride a some what level road and get to a climb of a mile in length with a vertical rise of 250-300 feet. There may be some ascents of 500 or so feet, but those are rare (well.... let's hope so!). Honestly, when I rode the last 95 miles of the TI V.1 route last spring in preparation for TI V.2 I thought that if I pedalled a bit on the down hills the momentum helped me make it halfway up the other side. There were only 2 major climbs that I remember that did not have a downhill preceeding it. Those climbs were about a mile long at what I would call a 7 or so percent grade.

    Now... GT is going to smoke us this year and I am confident that we will be doing many of these climbs. That is an understatement I am sure! Knowing GT's thrill of seeing people suffer in the worst way we just might need to bring some ropes and pulley's to drag our bikes up the hills he has included this year!
    Agreed. My experience in the area was that there is no such thing as a flat road. You are always either going up or down.

    As for getting half way up the next hill on the momentum of the last one, that is a favorite tactic of mine <i>geared</i>. In this event I am going single speed and am suspecting I am going to spin out on the downhills, so likely no dice. The other issue is that riding the momentum from hill to hill really only works if it is calm or if you have a tailwind. With a headwind you don't get going fast enough and it is simply a series of climbs. Rollers with a headwind are a real headache.

    We are doing a loop, meaning we will get some headwind and some tailwind. It should have a little something for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulclimb510
    I thought that if I pedalled a bit on the down hills the momentum helped me make it halfway up the other side.
    Damn you, you're giving away my super secret racing strategy!!!!

    This trick I learned on another 'trans'-iowa trip in the past (RAGBRAI) works quite well on those rollers in IA. Works well on a road bike on a paved road anyway, we'll have to see how well this works on a touring bike on dirt roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlahach
    We are doing a loop, meaning we will get some headwind and some tailwind. It should have a little something for everyone.
    I can't tell you how many times I have gone out for a ride with a headwind, only to have a headwind on the way home (almost everyday I commute). I believe GT said plan for the worst. I will take his word to the suffering we will all enjoy. This is gunna be an absolute blast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hensley
    I can't tell you how many times I have gone out for a ride with a headwind, only to have a headwind on the way home (almost everyday I commute). I believe GT said plan for the worst. I will take his word to the suffering we will all enjoy. This is gunna be an absolute blast.
    Surely you aren't saying that over the course of a 30 hour event that the wind could change?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlahach
    Surely you aren't saying that over the course of a 30 hour event that the wind could change?!

    I don't think it will change. I am expecting it to suck the whole time. It will be like when I used to ride in West Texas, but it could be cold, the roads won't be paved, there will be hills, i won't know where I'm going, the grass may be green, it won't be over after 30-40 miles, ............

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