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    Fezzari

    That new 120/120 fezzari seems like what a lot of us have been chasing...wish a brand I knew was doing this, and I have no idea of weight

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    Link to subject specimen? Fezzari is a known brand by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 17j View Post
    That new 120/120 fezzari seems like what a lot of us have been chasing...wish a brand I knew was doing this, and I have no idea of weight
    Doing what, making a bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 17j View Post
    That new 120/120 fezzari seems like what a lot of us have been chasing...wish a brand I knew was doing this, and I have no idea of weight
    Yep, the signal peak is checking all the boxes. 120f/r with dual bottle cages and updated geometry. The top end model is also fully spec’d with carbon wheels for 6k. I seen a note that a complete in size large was coming in at 24.5lbs. That puts it on par with the intense sniper trail but also gives you room for two water bottles.

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    Yup, looks interesting. Will be interested in ride reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Doing what, making a bike?
    Not many are making a 120/120 bike with xc geo, 2 water bottles, light weight.

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    Yeah I'm think about getting one. If you don't like it, send it back they say...
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    The Fezzari Signal Peak checks all my boxes. I just don't know the brand well or the suspension type. 120/120, 2 bottle cage mounts, 68 degree hta. 2.6 tire clearance oh and threaded bottom bracket. Progressive TetraLink suspension? Anyone know anything about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Doing what, making a bike?
    Any input on suspension design and kinematics? You always have the best insight in terms of explaining how it is engineering wise.

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    Is this the only 120 rear travel bike with two bottles inside the triangle in existence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life behind bars View Post
    Link to subject specimen? Fezzari is a known brand by the way.
    https://www.fezzari.com/signalpeak

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    Is this the only 120 rear travel bike with two bottles inside the triangle in existence?
    I did not consider that, but I believe it is. It also includes ports for internal routing for lockouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker607 View Post
    I did not consider that, but I believe it is. It also includes ports for internal routing for lockouts.
    I forgot about the Scalpel se, 120, 2 bottles. Several proprietary things though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    I forgot about the Scalpel se, 120, 2 bottles. Several proprietary things though.
    Good catch, I had a friend ride that demo bike at Sedona MTB festival this year and it was a rattling mess. But he did take it down hi-line. Many jokes about leaving half his fork somewhere on that trail...

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    Fezzari online chat support wrote the following. Keep in mind the release date and prices are subject to change.

    "I just called our product manager who just got home after driving back from sea otter 10 minutes ago and he said that availability will be summer. I'm guessing that means June 11th when our $3000 model is available. Don't quote me on that. When I badgered him about price, I was told really vaguely that it would be somewhere in the range of $1600-$1800 depending on the rear shock. I would guess that there is the option to run a different shock but we do have custom tunes on our shocks so that you get the optimal handling characteristics."

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    The medium frame claimed weight of 2000 grams is without rear shock or hardware.

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    Signal Peak clickable link to full specs further down screen at https://www.fezzari.com/signalpeak
    SP is XX1 Eagle (overkill for my needs, I'm an X01 rider), carbon wheels and new Stepcast 34. Reynolds carbon wheels are 24mm ID, claimed 1570 weight, lifetime warranty. For my needs it's a bit too narrow and kinda porky. That's why the frame only is my want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westin View Post
    Fezzari online chat support wrote the following. Keep in mind the release date and prices are subject to change.

    "I just called our product manager who just got home after driving back from sea otter 10 minutes ago and he said that availability will be summer. I'm guessing that means June 11th when our $3000 model is available. Don't quote me on that. When I badgered him about price, I was told really vaguely that it would be somewhere in the range of $1600-$1800 depending on the rear shock. I would guess that there is the option to run a different shock but we do have custom tunes on our shocks so that you get the optimal handling characteristics."
    I called and talked to them today. Got a completely different answer than you. They are not going to offer frame only at any point. I spoke to 3 different people. One who has raced the bike in True grit and some local Utah races with plans for many more races. I could order a large today and have it before May 15th. They said May 15th to be safe. I really didnt get the impression this is a race bike though.

    The racer/engineer I talked to said they wanted something more forgiving than a pure xc bike. His last bike was a Felt Edict, he said any race over 1 hr beat him up on the Felt Edict. At that point i could no longer take anything he said serious. The Felt Edict is a serious machine and far from a epic type xc fs. He kept talking about how it goes dh, thats not really as important to me as how it climbs, he kept saying it obviously isnt as fast uphill as pure xc bikes. Another red flag. Also the geo is all weird. It has a 120 fork and a 120mm headtube, thats a lot of stack height. Reach is 462.5 on a Large and 479 on a Xl with a 620 stack on Large and a 630 on Xl. Its not as fast as you think and its more trail bike than they think it is. Buy at your own risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    I called and talked to them today. Got a completely different answer than you. They are not going to offer frame only at any point. I spoke to 3 different people. One who has raced the bike in True grit and some local Utah races with plans for many more races. I could order a large today and have it before May 15th. They said May 15th to be safe. I really didnt get the impression this is a race bike though.

    The racer/engineer I talked to said they wanted something more forgiving than a pure xc bike. His last bike was a Felt Edict, he said any race over 1 hr beat him up on the Felt Edict. At that point i could no longer take anything he said serious. The Felt Edict is a serious machine and far from a epic type xc fs. He kept talking about how it goes dh, thats not really as important to me as how it climbs, he kept saying it obviously isnt as fast uphill as pure xc bikes. Another red flag. Also the geo is all weird. It has a 120 fork and a 120mm headtube, thats a lot of stack height. Reach is 462.5 on a Large and 479 on a Xl with a 620 stack on Large and a 630 on Xl. Its not as fast as you think and its more trail bike than they think it is. Buy at your own risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westin View Post
    Thank you!
    Dont you have a kona hei hei?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    Dont you have a kona hei hei?
    My buddy with the Trek Top Fuel 9.9 frame who wanted to trade bought the Hei Hei outright. I had no attachment to the new Kona. Simply too Barney the Dinosaur ugly for me. I got a deal which in turn he got a deal. Frame/rear shock +lockout for $2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westin View Post
    My buddy with the Trek Top Fuel 9.9 frame who wanted to trade bought the Hei Hei outright. I had no attachment to the new Kona. Simply too Barney the Dinosaur ugly for me. I got a deal which in turn he got a deal. Frame/rear shock +lockout for $2000.
    Im 10000000000 pct convinced that 120 rear is overkill unless they remake the 2016 Trek fuel ex. All these 120 bikes are too slanted towards descending. I was going to buy the fezzari and try it because i can return it but its a waste of time. Its not a race bike. At no point were the engineering dept thinking xc race bike. It was made for sanitized trails in park city. Its basically a 140 bro bike with 120 travel, so then the middle age overweight dudes can only have 20mm too much travel instead of 40. I wish it werent true but feel free to call them up. The intense is the same thing. This is all a marketing thing. Tje whole industry is in on it. Suddenly everyone needs more travel, suddenly everyone needs less travel. Im sticking to a hardtail.
    Let me add something else. What i mean is if you have a newer 100mm travel fs xc bike, just stick with that, buying a new bike for 1 degree head angle is a waste of money. If you are in the market to buy a mew xc type fs ya, you have some options. If you have a trek top fuel, hei hei, spark rc, epic etc, no point in buying a new bike. If you are on a hardtaol and need a fs, i would still stay with 100 rear max if new. The top fuel, mach 429, blur, spark rc are plenty of bike for 95 pct of racers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    Im 10000000000 pct convinced that 120 rear is overkill unless they remake the 2016 Trek fuel ex. All these 120 bikes are too slanted towards descending. I was going to buy the fezzari and try it because i can return it but its a waste of time. Its not a race bike. At no point were the engineering dept thinking xc race bike. It was made for sanitized trails in park city. Its basically a 140 bro bike with 120 travel, so then the middle age overweight dudes can only have 20mm too much travel instead of 40. I wish it werent true but feel free to call them up. The intense is the same thing. This is all a marketing thing. Tje whole industry is in on it. Suddenly everyone needs more travel, suddenly everyone needs less travel. Im sticking to a hardtail.
    Let me add something else. What i mean is if you have a newer 100mm travel fs xc bike, just stick with that, buying a new bike for 1 degree head angle is a waste of money. If you are in the market to buy a mew xc type fs ya, you have some options. If you have a trek top fuel, hei hei, spark rc, epic etc, no point in buying a new bike. If you are on a hardtaol and need a fs, i would still stay with 100 rear max if new. The top fuel, mach 429, blur, spark rc are plenty of bike for 95 pct of racers.
    Point made, but if you ride a hard tail on my trails you are either very young, don't pedal in the rough to maintain speed or are super human and god granted you no aches and pains. I think 120/120 built to race is a nice mix but no idea if the Ferrari is the magic bullet,,,,,but numbers and some details seemed interesting.

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    I rode this bike for 1.5 hours yesterday in Prescott. a 30 min trail climb and a 20 minute trail descent, hit two doubles, on the road to the trail, and on some basic singletrack. Its a DONKEY. Even the person who let me ride it, said its definitely not as fast as he expected, he was expecting the horst link to have no dead zone like vpp but it does. Thats his words i dont have enough experience on all kinds of bikes. I just know its not very quick to accelerate, descended like a trail bike sure. It definitely is not a Top fuel, scalpel, mach 429sl, or giant anthem though which I have ridden. This would be good for those not looking for every second on the climbs though im sure it would work great. It wasnt junk it just didnt spring to life under power.

    The build i rode was not available for purchase it a had a few prototype parts. It was a size large, fox 34 stepcast, fox factory whatever evol shock, had mavic carbon wheels that arent out yet, had maxxis tires that arent out yet, had a fox factory dropper, had eagle xx1.
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    Anyone order one of these yet? If so, any thoughts? Looks like they became available May 15th.

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    Email from Fezzari regarding weight: "Weights range from 24.5lbs on the Pro build you see online to about 28lbs on the Comp build". Wow, that's light- I'm glad it comes with a lifetime frame warranty. Now if only we could get some more ride reports (in addition to Lane's above).
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    1570 is "porky"? What do your wheels weight?
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    I received my Signal Peak Monday of this week. I've been out on my local trails twice with it. It is my first full carbon bike and so far I love it. I am not a bike aficionado but I am certainly past the novice point of mountain biking. I ride what is considered Illinois' best single track trails at least twice a week, have competed in a couple races this year and have been to Sedona AZ in August for some incredible mtb-ing. All that said, this bike is pretty killer so far. I'm shocked at how light it is. (I will put it on the scale later today and post the weight) It's an XL frame (I'm 6'4, 225) Fox Factory Suspension, Stans rims, Eagle GX etc. I opted for the 27.5+ wheels and tires as we are late in the season and I'm a winter rider. I felt they would be best for the coming snow. I will put 29's on in the spring and give a thorough update then. I chose the Fezzari based on 2 factors. I liked the idea of customization and the customer service. I also liked the idea of a bike that was what I considered a bridge between trail and xc. Here in Illinois there aren't many mountains so the need for a long travel bike on our trails is not realistic. I currently ride a Vitus Escarpe 150mm bike which is completely overkill for our terrain. I thought it was a wise choice at the time but I've learned a lot since that purchase. I can't comment on the acceleration because of the plus tires. I'm sure 29's would accelerate much better. I love how the bike climbs. The head tube angle difference between my Vitus and the Fezzari is only 2 degrees but it makes a huge difference. The Fezzari stays planted where as the Vitus wants to wheelie up the hills. The bike handles great, the descents are nice with just the right amount of squish where its needed. So far no carbon creak (yet). This is not only my first review but my first post on this forum. Been reading here for years and finally joined. I know this review is choppy and not the greatest but I will update my thoughts, likes and dislikes about the Signal Peak as I get more miles on it. Thanks for reading.

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    You end up weighing the bike?
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    I will weigh it this weekend and get back to you.

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    I have a Signal Peak, I did Park City Point 2 Point (75 miles and 13,000 ft of climbing) on it this year and it weighed in at 23lbs. Absolutely love that bike!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCBooger View Post
    I have a Signal Peak, I did Park City Point 2 Point (75 miles and 13,000 ft of climbing) on it this year and it weighed in at 23lbs. Absolutely love that bike!!
    I am assuming you have the xx1 build at this weight or did you build it up yourself? 23 pounds is impressive. Also congrats on the Point to Point. Its on my bucket list. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryeti View Post
    I am assuming you have the xx1 build at this weight or did you build it up yourself? 23 pounds is impressive. Also congrats on the Point to Point. Its on my bucket list. Cheers!
    I bought the XX1 build and then for the race swapped the fork for a 100mm Fox32.



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    Great looking bike! I rode one a couple months back and had a blast. Up and down. Im going to be ordering soon.

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    For those interested, frame only option is now available on their website. I'd love to see a few more real world reviews on these.

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