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    Backup/secondary light source for 24hr events

    I am looking to pick up a backup/secondary light source for 24hr racing. The light would go on the handlebars. I have read about the BLT Ozone 9ine on BLT's website, but have not found any reviews of this light. It would be nice to get some real world feedback regarding the BLT Ozone or any other secondary light source being used.

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    Blt???

    I'm looking into the same thing. My impression since I just went to the BLT site and surfed around: Stay away from anything to do with these clowns! No info is given on what batteries are used in the lighting systems that are powered by internal cells. Tech info is limited to the statment that all lights come with batteries. NO CONTACT INFO is given other than telling you to contact a dealer. That led me to finding out that in the USA BTI is the distributor and BTI only sells a couple of the BLT lights not the one you are interested in.
    So BLT is not willing to give ANY contact info, not even snail mail so one can find out info on their products.

    I have a Planet Bike Beamer 5 LED light on order. I have done a lot of looking into this issue, if you give me some more particulars such as what cells you wish to run, spot or flood beam, desired runtime & ect. I will try to help you out.

    29erchico

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    Currently, I am running NiteRider HIDs on h-bar and helmet. But the HID on the h-bars and the water bottle battery are too heavy and are really not needed for most 24hrs events.

    The main goals for a secondary light would be a long burn time 12hr+, light weight, good visibility (flood) and power source self contained in unit, optional helmet mount would be nice (to run h-bar and helmet).

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    Check this out...

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=138693

    The thread gets into the Exposure lights. Multiple output levels & trail swapable lithium ion battery packs. The '06 edition has a "turbo boost" mode that may get it into the HID output range. I have never used one but it does seem like what you are looking for.

    Spendy, but I think that part of the market is where you are headed.

    29erchico

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    backup light

    Right now I am playing with this light and plan to use it as a backup this season:

    http://www.princetontec.com/products...7&type=0&use=4

    It has a cleaner beam than my Cateye EL500, and is about $20 cheaper depending on where you shop. Has a very versatile mount. I'll have a complete review on my site one of these days.

    Might also wanna check out the NiteRider Fazer:

    http://www.niterider.com/products.php?sku=5000

    although it does not have a helmet mount option you generally can't go wrong with NR.

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    It depends on what exactly you want to do with your light. If you just want a backup in case your primary light goes out, I'd be looking at getting a nice mag light or similar, with a TwoFish mount to hold it on the bars.

    That way you have something that you can use to point around at what you want to be looking at when you're upside down on the side of the trail with no light, wondering what one earth just happened...

    If you want a little more grunt, there are many drop in Luxeon mods available, or there are an increasing number of Luxeon based torches available now anyway.

    A mag light and the two fish mount could quite easily be stored in your hydra pack or tool bag out of the way until needed.

    The Candle Power Forums is a great place to look for some more information: www.candlepowerforums.com

    Two Fish: www.twofish.biz/bike.html



    The main goals for a secondary light would be a long burn time 12hr+, light weight, good visibility (flood) and power source self contained in unit, optional helmet mount would be nice (to run h-bar and helmet).


    However if you were after more of a secondary light to back up or compliment your current HID light, I'd be looking at something more substantial.

    While IMO the Use Exposure might not be quite up to task as a full on race light, there are many who ride with them without problems. Personally I think it would be an expensive secondary light, and maybe a bit too narrow to be used for this purpose, especially if you’re going to run a HID on your helmet.

    Don’t let this put you off Luxeon based lights though, as there are many great lights out there.

    I think the DiNotte 5watt would make a great secondary light, still maybe a bit narrow, but it’s in the right ballpark. I think it makes the most of the light it produces with the beam width.

    What’s great about it though is it’s small size, light weight, and simple battery pack.

    Tom has made a great comparative thread here, which compares the DiNotte to the Light and Motion Vega 4 watt light: forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=147669

    Starting to get away from the whole point of a cheap secondary light, other lights like the Nightlightning Endurenz, Lupine Wilma, Cateye Double Shot and Triple Shot, and the Solid Light lights would be other possible Luxeon based options.

    For 24-hour events, lights like these could well be a possible primary light, especially with a decent size battery pack.



    You might think I’m pushing Luxeon based lights a little, and although there’s nothing wrong with a small 5-15 watt halogen, you’ll be carrying around a lot of extra weight, and the whiter colour temperature of your HID will make the halogen look rather disappointing.

    I keep on thinking about your situation though, and I’m worried that if you’re after a complimenting light rather then a backup, you’re going to be disappointed with the light output of most lights if it isn’t an HID on the bars too.

    I just don’t think you’ll be able to find a light that is self contained and will run for 12 hours that will compete with your HID.



    Assuming you’re going to be doing 24hr efforts solo, I’m wondering if you’d consider “downgrading” your system a little, and running something like an Endurenz, Wilma, Triple Shot or Solid lights on your bar, and a smaller lighter spot like the DiNotte, Double Shot or another Endurenz with a tighter beam width on your helmet??

    While you wouldn’t have quite as much light, I think you would achieve a better balance, lighter system weight, and a lot longer burn time.

    Food for thought anyway!!


    Cheers, Dave.
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    The main intent of the secondary light would be to use if the Primary (helmet HID) goes out and I need to ride through some singletrack or technical sections to get back to the pits. Also, it would be a plus if the light could also be used in conjunction with the HID for Fast Descents and twisty singletrack such as experienced at 24hrs of Steamboat.

    As for downgrading....it's a possibility....

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    I use both helmet and bar-mount Nite Rider HID for races on technical courses. For not-so-technical, or early evening and dawn hours when you need a light to be legal, I use a Light & Motion Vega. It's a self-contained LED lamp that does a pretty credible job. Battery life on high is about 1.5-2 hours, on low it's more like 6. I use it occasionally for early morning road rides on decently lighted roads and it works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calzonical
    I am looking to pick up a backup/secondary light source for 24hr racing. The light would go on the handlebars. I have read about the BLT Ozone 9ine on BLT's website, but have not found any reviews of this light. It would be nice to get some real world feedback regarding the BLT Ozone or any other secondary light source being used.

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