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    Epiphany Reviews

    So when are you lucky Epiphany owners going to post a review ? Someone needs to get in there and get those reviews started! Come on guys you must have a few (Ells) worthy assessments for the rest of us ?

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    Nice Epi'

    My Epi', one of the first in France!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceTT
    My Epi', one of the first in France!
    Very nice ride...Please tell us how the X fork works out with the Epi!
    The large looks sick, I waivered between the 17" & 19" and ended up with the 17". I do wonder how the 19" would have effected the handling, but for where i ride (tight & technical with few long downhills) I think the 17" is nice. I look foward to seeing a 19" in person though.

    Good luck with the new ride, you'll love it!
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    All I know so far is...

    The green ones ARE pretty light. This one's a large.
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    Bob, you did get yourself an Epiphany!!!

    Sweet! Please, a ride report comparing the Epiphany and Moment as soon as possible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahimanic
    Bob, you did get yourself an Epiphany!!!

    Sweet! Please, a ride report comparing the Epiphany and Moment as soon as possible!
    Some of the build will be coming off the Moment. I'll probably have to wait a week or so to have the Epiphany completely built up. It's going to drive me crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Wheelbuilder
    Some of the build will be coming off the Moment. I'll probably have to wait a week or so to have the Epiphany completely built up. It's going to drive me crazy!
    I'll be looking forward to your review. Should be interesting to hear how the Epiphany compares to the Moment.

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    At 5.6 pounds the Epiphany weighs the same as the Truth! I think my wife's xsmall Truth w/ Float R is 5.5 pounds. Perhaps the RP3 has trimmed some weight too if that is what is on the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Wheelbuilder
    Some of the build will be coming off the Moment.
    The forsaken Moment! Oh the humanity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    The forsaken Moment! Oh the humanity...
    Well, I've got some silly light stuff on the Moment like XTR cranks, shifters, rear derailleur and brakes that are just asking to be used on a lighter bike. They'll be replaced by XT cranks, SRAM X.9 and Juicy 7's with 8 inch front and 7 inch rear rotors. Horses for courses and all that. Check back later for the full details.
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    Bob - Can't wait to hear what you think about the Epi. Should be a sweet ride. It will be really interesting how it compares with the Moment. That green really is good looking and light!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAINpusher
    Very nice ride...Please tell us how the X fork works out with the Epi!
    The large looks sick, I waivered between the 17" & 19" and ended up with the 17". I do wonder how the 19" would have effected the handling, but for where i ride (tight & technical with few long downhills) I think the 17" is nice. I look foward to seeing a 19" in person though.

    Good luck with the new ride, you'll love it!
    Fram Ellsworth Epiphany
    Shock Fox RP3 + vis titane
    Fork Fox Float XTT
    Direction Chris King
    Stem Thomson Elite XC
    Handlebar Race Face Next
    Grip Odi Rampage
    Seat post Thomson
    Saddle SDG Bel Air TI
    Crankset Race Face Deus XC
    Pedals Xpedo MF1 Ti-Ti
    Derailleur rear SRAM X.0
    Derailleur front SRAM X-Gen
    Shifter SRAM Triggers X.0
    Wires Clarks Pre-lube
    Brakes Avid Juicy carbone
    Wheels Spinergy Xyclone Disc
    Tires Schwalble Noby Nic 2.25

    The X fork works great with the Epi'! It's like a Float 130 in the downhill, but more efficient for pedaling.

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    Hi VinceTT! How much your bike weights? It looks feader light, wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toponoto
    Hi VinceTT! How much your bike weights? It looks feader light, wow!
    Approximatly 12 kg. I'll weight it precisally this week-end.

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    Hey Vince what size Rear Derailer are you using?

    Reading the SRAM forum seems a Medium rear is not suitable for the standard 22/32/44 11-34 cassette combination

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=128857

    Looking at getting the same combo but if it has to be a long cage I might as well stick with XTR as the only real plus for me is the carbon !

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    I would think you'd need long cage if you're going to be running three rings up front. The med. and short cage derailleurs are for two and three ring set ups

    You can't run a Shimano rear der. and SRAM shifters unless you get the 2:1 actuation ratio components, so keep that in mind.

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    hey painpusher, how tall are you? there is a possible epiphany in my future, and i'm 5'11. debating between the 17 and 19 inch frames.

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    Back To The Point - Please Start Posting Reviews!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm_racer
    hey painpusher, how tall are you? there is a possible epiphany in my future, and i'm 5'11. debating between the 17 and 19 inch frames.
    Hi RM, I'm 6'. But le tme ask you, what is your exact inseam (measured CORRECTLY) and what are you currently riding? (including size of frame, stem, and seat post). I'll offer you some insight once I hear your measurments...
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    Ellsworth Demo

    Ellsworth was in our neck of the woods on Saturday with a small demo fleet on hand. Ahimanic got to demo Epiphany for a loop ride. I stole some time with the bike and here's what I thought.

    The Epiphany rides like a long travel Truth. It pedals very similar to the Truth, climbs very well and stays on tract. I was able to clear a steep rutted slope with some loose rocks pretty easily. Descending on the bike felt plush and stable. It was a little twitchy in my opinion, but then, I've been riding a Nomad for the last couple of months. On singletrack, the bike flows and feels comfortable from the get go. It did not take much time to adjust to the bike. I'd recommend the Epiphany to someone who's looking for more than the Truth but doesn't catch air more than 3 ft. The Moment definitely feels more confidence inspiring for that.

    Misc info, I'm 6ft, 160 lbs. I rode a Med Epiphany with Fox RP3 shock and Fox Talas XTT fork with 2.1 Kenda Nevegals F&R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprocketHead
    Ellsworth was in our neck of the woods on Saturday with a small demo fleet on hand. Ahimanic got to demo Epiphany for a loop ride. I stole some time with the bike and here's what I thought.

    The Epiphany rides like a long travel Truth. It pedals very similar to the Truth, climbs very well and stays on tract. I was able to clear a steep rutted slope with some loose rocks pretty easily. Descending on the bike felt plush and stable. It was a little twitchy in my opinion, but then, I've been riding a Nomad for the last couple of months. On singletrack, the bike flows and feels comfortable from the get go. It did not take much time to adjust to the bike. I'd recommend the Epiphany to someone who's looking for more than the Truth but doesn't catch air more than 3 ft. The Moment definitely feels more confidence inspiring for that.

    Misc info, I'm 6ft, 160 lbs. I rode a Med Epiphany with Fox RP3 shock and Fox Talas XTT fork with 2.1 Kenda Nevegals F&R.
    So what did you think about the size of the medium Epi - Would you get a large over the medium??
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAINpusher
    So what did you think about the size of the medium Epi - Would you get a large over the medium??
    It felt pretty good, but I didn't try the large. I should have but the bikes were hard to get a hold of and I didn't want to grab it since Ahimanic was hoarding the med to himself. I was trying to be nice and let other people experience an Ellsworth. There was a lot of seatpost showing when I rode the med. Looks a bit funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprocketHead

    Misc info, I'm 6ft, 160 lbs. I rode a Med Epiphany with Fox RP3 shock and Fox Talas XTT fork with 2.1 Kenda Nevegals F&R.
    Can anyone explain the following?

    Why use a fork thats 90-130mm when the Specs recommend 125-150mm? Wouldnt it always be set on 125/130?? What would happen if you run it at say 90?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprocketHead
    Descending on the bike felt plush and stable. It was a little twitchy in my opinion, but then, I've been riding a Nomad for the last couple of months. On singletrack, the bike flows and feels comfortable from the get go.
    Hi SprocketHead
    It could be interesting to hear your comparison between the Nomad and the Epiphany?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornstar69
    Can anyone explain the following?

    Why use a fork thats 90-130mm when the Specs recommend 125-150mm? Wouldnt it always be set on 125/130?? What would happen if you run it at say 90?
    Steep head angle. It would be ok for climbing, especially in the very steeps...This is the kind of condition that you can create with Marzocchi's ETA. I can easily go from 150mm locked down to about 100mm or so for some of the very steep climbs around my neck of the woods.

    I wouldn't leave in on that travel setting though. 130-140mm would probably balance the Epiphany best and alleviate some of that twitchiness that Sprocket talked about. 150mm might be too much, depending on your A to C and could push thru corners a bit. It's more about A to C than travel lengths in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zylo
    Hi SprocketHead
    It could be interesting to hear your comparison between the Nomad and the Epiphany?
    Hi Zylo,

    There is no comparison between the two bikes, totally different feel. The Epiphany I rode was built for XC racing and my Nomad is built for trail riding fun. I've got a Fox 36 Talas on it and it's a much beefier fork. That said, you'd be surprised at how well the Nomad pedals. It climbs with little bob and decends like a mutha. Catching air on it is a blast because the suspension is butta. I'm a lot more confident decending on the bike and now, I look for things to take off from.

    If you like a XC feel, the Intense 6.6 is better. If going downhill and jumping is what you're into, the Nomad feels better. Ok, back to E news, Paul told me one of the guys who helped make the Nomad now works for Ellsworth. He may be coming up with some new designs adding the swoopy curves to an E frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprocketHead
    It felt pretty good, but I didn't try the large. I should have but the bikes were hard to get a hold of and I didn't want to grab it since Ahimanic was hoarding the med to himself. I was trying to be nice and let other people experience an Ellsworth. There was a lot of seatpost showing when I rode the med. Looks a bit funny.
    Awwhh, don't be a sour grape! You spent too much time at Cooks Corner staring at the biker chicks and were too slow in getting to the parking lot before all the Epi's were gone. Actually, there were only 2 Epi's and they were both medium so you wouldn't have been able to try the large.

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    Set up database

    If you want to chat about nonsence start another thread. This is a setup database for owners(eg -Id/ truth databases) to share their build with the purpose of creating a resource for potential future owners. I would like the moderator of this site to create a new link for Epi setups. Then when people use the forum so many stupid questions are avoided. This thread should look:

    Rider height weight H = 184 cm' W = 85kg Coments on components: great mix of components, issues included cooked cranks, worn chains and sprockets, flexy wheels.
    Main purpose: All Mountain, Endurance.
    Riding terrain conditions:Everything this side of the black stump and beyond. I like the back country it's where I feel at peace.
    Frame Size & Color:19" Anodised Green
    Fork: Rock Shock Revelation
    Shock: Fox RP3
    Brakes: Carbon Juicy with dirty dog rotors (Dragon)
    Cranks: Race Face Deus XC Bad Ass Black
    Shifters: SRAM X-o
    Front Derailleur: XTR
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM Mid Cage Carbon
    Pedals: Crank Bros Eggbeater Twin Ti
    Stem: Thomson Elite
    Handlebar: Easton ML Lo-Riser Bar CNT
    Seatpost:Thomson Elite
    Saddle: Selle Italia
    Bottom Bracket: RaceFace External BB
    Cassette:SrAM PG 990
    Chain: Shimano XT
    Headset: Chris King 05 Pretty and Strong
    Grips: Odi Ruffian
    Front Tire:Panaracer Firex 2.1
    Front Rim/ Spokes: Spinergy Xyclone Disc
    Front Hub/Skewer: Salsa flip locks
    Rear Tire: Panaracer Firex 2.1
    Rear Rim: Spinergy Xyclone
    Rear Hub/Skewer: Spinergy/ Salsa flip lock
    Cables: XTR
    Misc: Garmin Edge 305
    overall Weight: 12.2kg

    Future: Nokon Cables, Goodridge braided hose

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy L
    If you want to chat about nonsence start another thread (better yet sod off to turner or giant)!!!
    Who are you referring to?

    I think the Epiphany set up has already been established. It seems to me that this thread was created to review how the bikes rides, not the set-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Who are you referring to?

    I think the Epiphany set up has already been established. It seems to me that this thread was created to review how the bikes rides, not the set-ups.
    Actually, Jimmy L is right. If you go to the E's setup database thread and click on Epiphany, this is the thread that shows up!

    This surprises me because I was actually the one that ask Trevor to set up a database for Epiphany. The way it works is that he has to have an existing thread to make it a sticky so apparently he picked this one. I don't think this is the right thread for the setup database and I thought it was a different one that was attached when I last looked.

    I'll ask Trevor to unlink this one and use another more appropriate thread. I think there's another thread with a bunch of set ups or maybe I'll start a brand new one.

    I don't think everyone here realized what was taking place here based on the title of this thread.

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    That's great work Alimanic, thank you and moderators for your prompt correction of this minor problem.

    Apologies to Chad and others for the sterness of my posting. It's just I think this forum contains some excellent discussions and would like to see a standard maintained for all to enjoy.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy L
    That's great work Alimanic, thank you and moderators for your prompt correction of this minor problem.

    Apologies to Chad and others for the sterness of my posting. It's just I think this forum contains some excellent discussions and would like to see a standard maintained for all to enjoy.

    Cheers
    No worries. All these side discussions would be inappropriate for a database thread. I don't think anyone would enjoy filtering through a bunch of unrelated discussions just to get to what they're looking for.

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    [QUOTE=jimmy L]If you want to chat about nonsence start another thread (better yet sod off to turner or giant)!!! This is a setup database for owners(eg -Id/ truth databases) to share their build with the purpose of creating a resource for potential future owners. I would like the moderator of this site to create a new link for Epi setups or get the chit chat rubbish off here. Then when people use the forum so many stupid questions like (wat diffarenece between truth and moment?) are avoided. This thread should look:

    Rider height weight * H = ' " W = lb with gear Coments on components
    * Main purpose: *

    * Riding terrain conditions: *

    5' 10-1/2" Inseam 32"
    165 lbs w/gear 203 lbs. (I carry lots of stuff like sutures, but that's another post on trail-side emergency repairs--just note never take a poll of your 7 closest riding buddies at the top of Amasa Back if you need too have your lip repaired there on at the emergency room.).

    Colorado Front Range riding with 3 trips to different places in Utah every year.

    I was looking for a new bike that was lighter and had more travel than my 04 Specialized Enduro Pro. As I get way to close to 50, bike weight seems to get more important. Another consideration was low maintenance. I do not work on my bike, I just ride it so I did not want a bike that had to be pulled apart and worked on.

    This build came out on a less then stellar old fashion scale at 27 lbs. My LBS was to put Stans w/o tubes on the Mavic 819's but there was a time issue to get the 1st ride in (7:30 PM-Mathew Winters). The LBS will make the switch when I bring "Ginger" back for service.

    I started my search with several bikes in mind from reviews and friends opinions. I have had 3 Enduros over the last 8 years. The 1st one was the original FSR that Specialized came out with. The 2nd two were frame replacements. Thus, I have been very pleased with Specialized warranty.

    Back to the list.

    Yeti 575
    Maverick ML 7.5
    Titus Motolite
    Ellsworth Epiphany
    Turner 5 Spot
    Specialized Stumpjumper
    Santa Cruze Blur LT


    I demo-ed the Yeti, Titus and Elsworth all on the same trail (Mathew Winters). Let me digress. This is an example of working with a shop that carries a good mix of bikes in the style you are looking for. At the same time has a real demo program that let's you take the bikes out for a true test. My LBS carries the top five bikes on my list. If you are going to spend a chunk of cash on a new bike then find a shop or friend that will let you ride it on your trails.

    Once I rode the 3 bikes I threw out the Turner because I sensed it would be much like the Epiphany but not quite as nice (no offense to 5 Spotters). I also was on a time line for an upcoming trip to Fruita and Moab on 4/17. I wanted to have at least 1 month on the new ride to get used to her before the trip.

    Of these 3 rides I really liked the quick and nimble feeling of the Moto-lite and I really liked the DUC 32 on the 575. I also discovered that I really liked the SRAM twisters vs the new triggers. I have always had Shamino triggers. BUT, the Epi had an overall feel to it that just felt right. I was able to hold challenging lines better because it tracked best. I ended up demo-ing the Epi three times.

    I rode the Blur LT behind the shops mini trial and was not impresses with the ride, nothing really stood out. Perhaps a real trail demo might have made a difference but the shop did not have that in mind.

    I ended up riding the ML8 at another shop since my LBS did not have the new 7.5 or 8 in yet. I will say I was very impressed with the ML8 in the parking lot test but once again it was not a trail test. Very very nice ride but I ruled it out due to weight and cost. Sweet Speedball seat post but, wrong dia. for the Epi. You can build them to around 28 lbs but my rough guess it would be close to 6 big bills. IF i was in a position to have a 2nd more freeride bike this might be the one.

    Back to the setup which was the original intention of this post. This probably should have been under 2 separate posts. Since I am rambling I will throw out that after my 1st night ride and then my 1st daylight ride yesterday I AM ECSTATIC ABOUT MY NEW EPI.

    I would have liked to have upgrade a few more components but there was a budget (my Enduro, my 95 KDX 200 and my Conrad Johnson stereo had to find new homes). With 5 children and a stay at home wife I had to be reasonable. The reasonable part was to convince my wife that I was not interrupting cash flow only trading several old toys for a new one.

    * Frame Size & Color:
    Epiphany SMOKE large (I got lucky) Large. I demo-ed the Med. but was showing too much tube. My body style fit te large better.

    * Fork:
    Maverick DUC 32. I was wavering on this fork that my LBS was pushing. Several of my friends ride it and I know of the previous problems but may issues have been resolved with the new 2006 models. My consistent riding buddy really has spend a lot of time tweaking his and I feel he has it down to a science as to oil viscosity and pressures to run. My LBS also committed to keeping a spare fork available in case problems arise. Since the shop is pushing the fork this year the owner Brian wanted to stand behind it. After doing several trail adjustments I feel this is going to be a very sweet bike and fork combo. O she climbs.

    * Shock
    RP3. The frame came with the "custom valved" shock but I really like the RP3 stiff setting on my Enduro for road and climbing and it was the safe bet so I had the LBS swap it out.
    DUC stem 110mm
    rear derailleur X9 long cage
    XT front derailleur XT traditional
    crankset Race Face Dues- 175mm
    BB integrated with crank
    PG990 cassette 11-34
    chain pc971
    Brakes and Levers Marta SL 180 Front
    Marta SL 160 Rear
    shifter trigers XO grip shifters
    Hubs/ Wheels DUC front hub blk
    rims Mavic 819 rims
    Spokes blk 2.0/1.7/1.8 DT SWISS Revolution
    Rear wheel Hugi 240 with 819
    Headset Chris King Blue
    pedals Candy SL
    Seatpost Thompson elite black
    Handlebar easton monkeylite SL low rise cbn
    grips Odi lock on grips Ruffian
    saddle wtb laser v SLT - ti
    tires Tomac Nevegal 2.3 f 2.1 r

    I will close with a MTB mockronym that was given to me.

    MMTS (More Money Than Skills).

    This bike will never be ridden to it's full potential but I'll keep trying.

    I'm having problems uploading images. I will try later.

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    New Epiphany

    I have ridden my new Epiphany (17", smoke) for about 5 rides now in the Fruita/Moab area. My previous ride was a Moots YBB....totally different bikes. The E is set up with a Fox 130, xt/SRAM build, with King/717 wheels...I haven't put it on a scale but it is certainly light for the travel. Only problem so far is that the bike came with a RP3 shock that lasted 3 miles before leaking all over the place. A phone call tp Ells had a new shock in the mail right away.

    The bike definately soaks up everything that the trail throws at it. I have found that the weight penalty of the E is offset by the traction that I have gained. The handling is considerably bifferent that the Moots and I am still trying to get the set-up dialed in. Will post more later.

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    I'm really digging the Epiphany. Here's my currrent set-up:

    Rider height weight * H = 6' 0" W = 190ish lb with gear
    * Main purpose: Trail-riding
    * Riding terrain conditions: limestone ledges, roots, rocks, more rocks, steep acents & decents, and more rocks.
    * Frame Size & Color: 19" Black
    * Fork: Black RS Revelation - Non-U-turn (Why would you want less than 130mm??). The Revelation feels great, I may experiment with a Pike soon to see if that feels even better.
    * Shock: RP3 (Don't get talked into the float - I use my propedal options all the time) I will get this Pushed in 6 months. What I hope to get out of getting this Pushed is a firmer platform that also allows for me to blow through all my travel. currently, when I run the presure to get my desired firmness, I notice that I never quite use all my travel.
    * Brakes: Juicey Carbons (7" Galfer front rotor & 6" Galfer rear rotor) I love them...The new Oro's are the only other brake that I like the feel of (i've tried maguras, el Caminos, and mechanicals).
    * Cranks: XTR (This was a HUGE mistake, I didn't realize that you can't size down to a 2 ring(with bash gaurd) combo like you can on the XTs and Race Face. For where I ride this is crucial)
    * Shifters: XO twisters
    * Front Derailleur: XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: XO
    * Pedals: XTR
    * Stem: Thomson X4 oversized/10deg. rise/110mm
    * Handlebar: Easton nano carbon
    * Seatpost: Thomson elite 440/setback (I may switch to a straight thomson masterpeice...I'm still dialing in my cockpit position)
    * Saddle: WTB / Laser Stealth
    * Bottom Bracket: XTR
    * Cassette: XTR 34tooth
    * Chain: SRAM
    * Headset: Black Chris King
    * Grips: ODI
    * Front Tire: 2.35 Navegal Stick-E
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Black Mavic 717/Sapim CX-Rays
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Chris King/Mavic skewer (***WARNING*** I originally had the Hope skewers and the front skewer came loose 4 times on me!!!!! - Friends don't let friends ride hope skewers!)
    *Rear Tire: 2.1 Navgal Stick-E
    * Rear Rim: Black Mavic 717/Sapim CX-Rays
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Chris King/Hope skewer

    * Cables: stock
    * Misc:
    * overall Weight: between 26-27

    Future: Possibly RS Pike, Masterpeice seatpost (once I figure out which one I want)

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    The bike is looking good...How do you like the Galfer rotors? I've heard that they work well for reducing brake squeal, especially with Hope Minis (older models). Mine screetch like a banshee sometimes.

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    My Nebula Blue Epiphany built up.

    Build:

    17" Frame
    Fox Float R Rear Shock
    Fox Float RLC 130 Fork
    FSA Team Carbon Crankset
    American Classic Steel ISIS BB (replaceable bearings)
    Wellgo Pedals
    SRAM Chain
    SRAM X-9 Rear Der.
    XT Front Der.
    XT Cassette
    Mavic 3.1 Rims with/ Continental Explorer Tubeless (switching to Kenda Nevegal 2.35)
    Hugi 240 Hubs (DT Swiss Spokes)
    Magura Marta Disc Brakes
    Raceface Next Low Riser Carbon Bar
    X-9 Shifters
    American Classic Headset
    ODI Lock-on Grips
    Thompson Stem and Seatpost
    Terry Ti Fly Saddle

    Current weight about 25.5 lbs
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    Very nice ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    The bike is looking good...How do you like the Galfer rotors? I've heard that they work well for reducing brake squeal, especially with Hope Minis (older models). Mine screetch like a banshee sometimes.
    They've been nice, no Juicy style studdering...But they have, just recently begun to squeel, so I've deglazed the rotor & pad surffaces and that helps for a bit. I may try EBC pads next.

    Next upgrade: Now that I am getting in better shape, I may bump up to a 2.5/2.35 tire combo (from my current 2.35/2.1 combo). If i do this, I may have to break down and try a 2.35 DTC for the rear. There is such a speed penalty when you go larger than the 2.1 stick-E on the rear - Sluggs city!

    Either that or try running a full sticke 2.5/2.1 combo - has anyone tried this combo??
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    I can't see the need for anything "more" than a 2.35 BG front and 2.1 NV rear around here..
    I run the DTCs unless it's been very wet where I want the extra traction of the StickE for the wet rocks..

    and you know where I ride

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    Frame Ellsworth Epiphany Green
    Shock Fox float
    Fork Fox Vanilla RLC
    Stem Thomson Elite XC
    Handlebar Monkeylite ec 90 carbon
    Seat post Thomson
    Saddle WTB
    Crankset Truvativ Fire
    Pedals Mellgo MG-1
    Derailleur rear SRAM X.9
    Derailleur front SRAM X-9
    Shifter SRAM Triggers X.9
    Brakes Shimano LX Disc
    Wheels Mavic Enduro
    Tires Maxxis 310
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    To my surprise when I got my new epi it had a rp23 on it. I had asked for it and was told they only had the rp3. This bike climbs like a dream and handles even better. I took a huge leap from my 03 rockhopper fsr comp and I can't even begin to explain how happy I am with this bike. The only problem I have now is trying to keep inside my comfort zone, which isn't easy.
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    Shock Fox RP23
    Fork Fox Float RLC
    Stem FSA
    Handlebar FSA
    Seatpost Thompson
    Saddle WTB Laser
    Crank XT
    Pedals Shimano 959
    Derailleur Front XTR
    Derailluer Back SRAM X-9
    Cassette SRAM 990
    Brakes Juicy Seven
    Wheels DT Swiss 1450
    Tires Intense - Soon to be Nevegal

    Thanks to I.E. Bikes for the great bike and service.

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    Very nice bike...buy some pads and go crazy!

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    New Ride!!

    * Frame Size & Color: 2007 Ellsworth Epiphany 19" Green
    * Fork: 2007 Fox TALAS
    *Shock: Fox Float R “Ellsworth tuned”
    * Brakes: Formula Oro Puro 180mm front, 160mm rear
    *Shifters: XO triggers
    * Front Derailleur: SRAM X-Gen
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO
    * Pedals: Crank Bros. Candy C
    * Stem: TruVativ Team
    * Handlebar: TruVativ Team Carbon 25mm rise
    * Seatpost: TruVativ Team Carbon Double Clamp
    *Saddle: Selli Italia Prolink Gel-Flow
    *Seat Clamp: Salsa
    *Crankset: Raceface Deus X-Drive
    * Bottom Bracket: Raceface
    * Cassette: SRAM 990
    * Chain: SRAM PC991
    * Headset: Cane Creek S-3
    * Grips: WTB MotoTec clamp-on
    * Front Tire: WTB WeirWolf 2.1 UST w/3oz. Stans
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Mavic Crossmax ST
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Mavic
    *Rear Tire: WTB WeirWolf 2.1 UST w/3oz. Stans
    * Rear Rim: Mavic Crossmax ST
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Mavic

    *Weight: 27.35
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    Ride report to come later

    Oh yeah, I'll write a review when I actully get some time on it outside.
    (snow....again. 11 degrees)
    Other than that it corners real well in the basement.
    Oh well, at least it's home!

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    Thats fine to post a review, but if you havent had much
    time on the bike, its better to wait a few months when you become more
    familiar with the traits of the bike. I'm tired of reading puff-piece reviews
    done by people who've only had a few rides on the bike. They always give them
    5 stars cause they just bought the bike. Give me a break !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAINpusher
    I'm really digging the Epiphany. Here's my currrent set-up:

    Rider height weight * H = 6' 0" W = 190ish lb with gear
    * Main purpose: Trail-riding
    * Riding terrain conditions: limestone ledges, roots, rocks, more rocks, steep acents & decents, and more rocks.
    * Frame Size & Color: 19" Black
    * Fork: Black RS Revelation - Non-U-turn (Why would you want less than 130mm??). The Revelation feels great, I may experiment with a Pike soon to see if that feels even better.
    * Shock: RP3 (Don't get talked into the float - I use my propedal options all the time) I will get this Pushed in 6 months. What I hope to get out of getting this Pushed is a firmer platform that also allows for me to blow through all my travel. currently, when I run the presure to get my desired firmness, I notice that I never quite use all my travel.
    * Brakes: Juicey Carbons (7" Galfer front rotor & 6" Galfer rear rotor) I love them...The new Oro's are the only other brake that I like the feel of (i've tried maguras, el Caminos, and mechanicals).
    * Cranks: XTR (This was a HUGE mistake, I didn't realize that you can't size down to a 2 ring(with bash gaurd) combo like you can on the XTs and Race Face. For where I ride this is crucial)
    * Shifters: XO twisters
    * Front Derailleur: XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: XO
    * Pedals: XTR
    * Stem: Thomson X4 oversized/10deg. rise/110mm
    * Handlebar: Easton nano carbon
    * Seatpost: Thomson elite 440/setback (I may switch to a straight thomson masterpeice...I'm still dialing in my cockpit position)
    * Saddle: WTB / Laser Stealth
    * Bottom Bracket: XTR
    * Cassette: XTR 34tooth
    * Chain: SRAM
    * Headset: Black Chris King
    * Grips: ODI
    * Front Tire: 2.35 Navegal Stick-E
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Black Mavic 717/Sapim CX-Rays
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Chris King/Mavic skewer (***WARNING*** I originally had the Hope skewers and the front skewer came loose 4 times on me!!!!! - Friends don't let friends ride hope skewers!)
    *Rear Tire: 2.1 Navgal Stick-E
    * Rear Rim: Black Mavic 717/Sapim CX-Rays
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Chris King/Hope skewer

    * Cables: stock
    * Misc:
    * overall Weight: between 26-27

    Future: Possibly RS Pike, Masterpeice seatpost (once I figure out which one I want)

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    Latest updates:
    I9 wheels & RS Pike 454 air-uturn. Best upgrade combo ever. Honestly, this feels like an entirely new bike - only thing is that I never use the u-turn (just get the dual air), and don't stress over the pikes' A-C, it is pure synergy with the Epi.

    The Pike makes this bike soo much more fun, I can bomb through off camber rock sections and G-outs with unthinkable control now.
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    New french Epiphany

    * Frame Size & Color: 2007 Ellsworth Epiphany 17" Black
    * Fork: 2006 RS Pike 454 UTurn Air & 2007 RS Revelation 426
    * Shock: Fox Float RP23
    * Brakes: Hope Mono Mini 180mm front, 160mm rear
    * Shifters: XO triggers
    * Front Derailleur: SRAM X-Gen
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO
    * Pedals: Time Atac XS Titan Carbon
    * Stem: Thomson Elite X4 70mm 0°
    * Handlebar: USE Atom Carbon Riser
    * Seatpost: USE Alien Titanium
    * Saddle: Fizik Gobi
    * Seat Clamp: Hope
    * Crankset: Raceface Deus X-Drive + Middleburn MTB Chainrings Slick-Shift Hardcoat 4-Bolt 24/34t Grey + Bash Ring Shaman Racing Carbon
    * Bottom Bracket: Raceface
    * Cassette: XTR Titanium 9sp M960 11-34
    * Chain: ConneX Wippermann 9X1 Stainless
    * Headset: Chris King NoThreadSet
    * Grips: Lizard Skin Lobo
    * Front Tire: Maxxis CrossMark UST
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss XR4.2D + AeroLite
    * Front Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss 240s oversize 20mm
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis CrossMark UST
    * Rear Rim: Mavic DT Swiss XR4.2D + AeroLite
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss 240s

    *Weight: ?



    Thanks to Boss @ RSPShop
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceTT
    My Epi', one of the first in France!
    How are the Spinergy Xyclones holding up? Good wheels? Strong & stiff?

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    How are the Spinergy Xyclones holding up? Good wheels? Strong & stiff?

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    Cool bash ring. Are these available in the US? Cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aizu1
    Cool bash ring. Are these available in the US? Cost?
    I don't know if Shaman Racing is imported in US. In Europe, the cost of the Carbon Bash is ~70€

    http://www.raceco-mtb.com/detail.php...es&ref=SHPLROC

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    Xyclones are not only beautiful but also very efficient! Lightweight, stiff lateraly and strong (for the moment). PBO spokes absorbes vibes and small shocks. The only bad point, hubs don't like mud!

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    Epi vs the Moment

    Thanks for the info on the bash ring. I decided to get a E-13 instead. I plan to put it on my new 29r project since I don't think I'll be using the big ring as much.

    After a lot of thought I have put my Epi up for auction (Ebay 230077389648).

    Decided to keep the Moment and make room for the FS 29r. It was a hard decision. Almost kept them all! For my trails and riding style I concluded the Moment is a better bike. I don't race anymore so what's the big hurry on the climbs? It still goes up everything, I just get a better workout. And I love how it blasts down the descents and smooths out the roughest terrain. For those interested, I've posted my comparisons on the 2 bikes in other threads.

    Cheers

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Epiphany from the cheap seats

    I sorta lost track of if this an equipment list thread or performance review thread.
    I have been trying to get a few more rides in before my review of my Nebula Blue Epiphany, but the weather has not been cooperating, so I will give it a review with only half dozen rides under my belt.

    My Epi proves that you CAN own an Epi even if you are budget impaired and not spend much more than a "normal" bike. Only $3500 for this one, built up. Albeit I swapped to my old titanium railed WTB saddle to replace the steel railed saddle it came with.

    This bike has definitely taking my riding to another level from the Spec Epic Pro wtih brain shock I was riding primarily before this.

    It climbs like a cat, technically and longer grades. Rails the fast downhills, and snakes through the techy tight stuff. Balance feels good and I am trying stuff I wouldn't consider before. Coming off short travel (or sometimes travel in the case of Brain Shocks) I am still getting brave enough to really exercise the full travel, and I don't plan to do "Big Air", so I don't care about super hits. But I am 5'11" and 195 pounds and have a bad history with breaking bikes that are too light (e.g. Specialized Stumpjumper FSR) so I went with the Epiphany instead of a Truth for durability.
    Riding buddies have already been remarking(complaining) about my increase in speed....thats a very good sign.

    I basically like Tight and Twisted technical trails, and the Epiphany, even with the bargain build, keeps me grinning.
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    From Caracas

    Frame Ellsworth Epiphany size S
    Color SMOKE
    Shock FOX R
    Fork Fox TALAS 2007
    Direction Chris King
    Stem FSA XC 115
    Handlebar EASTON MONKEY LIGHT
    Grip Odi Rampage
    Seat post Thomson
    Saddle SELLE ITALIA SLK
    Crankset SHIMANO XTR
    Pedals SHIMANO 959
    Derailleur rear SRAM X.0
    Derailleur front SHIMANO XTR
    Shifter SRAM X.0
    Wires shift NOKON
    Brakes HOPE MONO MINI 180 mm f/r
    Wheels CUSTON
    HUGY 240, DT REVOLUTION, RIN NO TUBES ZTR OLYMPIC
    stan NO TUBE
    Tires MICHELIN XTC ALL TERRAIN 2.0

    WEIGHT 24,99 LBS..........11.800 GR.
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    Hot, Hot, Hot! That is one bad bike. Makes mine look like a PIG
    Vote with your feet.
    No bike is perfect!

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    What's in your opinion the best fork for the Epiphany?

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    FOX TALAS RLC 2007 (100-120-140)

    100 mm UP HILL
    140 mm DOWN HILL

    The best performance in any sytuacion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seibukan
    What's in your opinion the best fork for the Epiphany?
    For where I ride, steep, rocky, & technical - I believe this to be the perfect match for the Epiphnay:



    I hope to have the Uturn mechanism removed soon though, as I never use it. Full travel on the Pike gives the Epi a much more compliant geometry for where I ride...much better than Revelation did.
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    So there are already at least two who use the Pike.
    @painpusher: How much does your's weigh?
    @rainard_ruge: How much was it en France? And how tall are you because I'm 1,80 and don't know whether I should take M or L!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seibukan
    What's in your opinion the best fork for the Epiphany?
    Hello from the Philippines...

    My experiences so far with forks for the Epi goes like this...

    When I first got the 06 Epiphany I put on a 03 Zocchi Z1 FR. I've a previous post on how that worked out, then I changed the fork out to a Zocchi 05 Marathon SL in the hope of getting it lighter.

    In 120mm extended travel mode, the Marathon stanchions would creak, as if not enough stanchion was left in the legs. Also, I did figure it out positive air, negative air, tst and par but everytime I stuck in the pump I would get a different reading, unlike the Fox Float and the Brain on my previous Epic that was spot on (minus 5psi all the time from filling up the shock pump) every day for the two years I had it.

    The wifey got me an 07 Vanilla 140mm for Christmas last year and I've been riding it for three months now. The Vanilla works very, very well for the way I ride.

    The geometry feels very good, right in the middle of my previous Epic and my friend's Moment (which I rode yesterday). The Epic was too steep for me (even with a 100mm fork), stretched me out and had me face down so low I had to remove my visor to see far up the trail. I guess that would be good for smooth manicured trails but we don't have those here, and I am a lousy rider. The Moment (with the big Fox 36 Van) was a touch too slack, with the front end giving a hint of wanting to fall on its side. Great for techy downhills but for me bit too much for trail riding. Just speaking for myself though, two of my buddies are on Moments (coil Foxes front and rear) and they ride everything I ride and more. Hell if I had the legs and the skills to do the drops I'd be on a Moment too!

    But the Epi with the Fox Van 140mm... just right for me. Even though I'm running a set of EA70 hi-rise bars, the sit-up and beg position I'm in is still climbable, without even needing to stick the nose of the saddle up my ass... I just plant myself square in the saddle, bend forward (way forward!) and grind away... the bike's suspension is superb and gives great traction, I can pretty much claw my way up some pretty nasty terrain. I'm sure a Talas would be much, much more versatile up and down but I'd rather ride everything with one set-up than be fiddling.

    Going down is great with the Fox Van coil up front, it eats just about eats up everthing, nice and stiff, no flex.

    Here's a taste of Philippine mahogany. Sorry for the pic quality, it was taken with a camphone as none of us is willing to risk the missus' digicam on the trails!


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    Thanks buddies, so I go for the fox! It also got fantastic review in a German mag.

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    Formula brakes

    Hi, I'm considering a purchasing a set of Formula brakes, I'm wondering where you got yours and I'm wondering how do they perform. Did you get them from you LBS or online?

    Tks. Rider

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    Just got the bike on Friday and christened it Saturday with only one fall (Gu pack explosion included). Many thanks to Craig Smith at MendonCycleSmith for the build. I think some of the weights here are, um...ahem...a bit of a fiction. Mine is the *real* weight. Disclaimer from "nerdism": Front stack is high for testing until I settle on a height. Nylon ties on Garmin mount not trimmed clean until rubber mount settles and is ready for more cranking.

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    I'll actually admit this is my first mountain bike for serious riding. I've been riding around 140miles/week on the road up until now.

    Frame- Ellsworth Epiphany size M
    Color- Nebula Blue
    Rider height- 5' 8.5"
    Inseam- Apprx 30"
    Weight- 195
    Shock- FOX R (standard unit, soft tune). '08 RP3 on the way.
    Fork- Fox TALAS 32 RLC 2008
    Headset- Chris King Pewter
    Stem- Thompson X4 Black 70mm 90deg
    Handlebar- Easton Monkey HiRise Alu
    Grips- Salsa Locked
    Seatpost- Thomson Elite Black 410mm
    Saddle- Fizik Gobi, Ti Rails
    Crankset- XTR '07 175mm
    Pedals- XTR '07
    Derailleur rear- XTR '07
    Derailleur front- XTR '07
    Shifters- XTR '07 Dual Control
    Cables- Nokon Silver
    Brakes- XTR
    Rotors- 160 mm f/r
    Wheels- Industry Nine All Mountain Black/Black
    Tubes- Stan's Kit
    Cassette- XTR 07
    Tires- Continental Vertical PROtection 2.3 F Explorer PROtection 2.1 R
    Bottle Cage - King Ti
    Weight 27.3lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by stratmosphere
    Just got the bike on Friday and christened it Saturday with only one fall (Gu pack explosion included). Many thanks to Craig Smith at MendonCycleSmith for the build. I think some of the weights here are, um...ahem...a bit of a fiction. Mine is the *real* weight.

    I WILL take pics this week. I'll also make edits if anything isn't just right here. I'll actually admit this is my first mountain bike for serious riding. I've been riding around 140miles/week on the road up until now.

    Sounds like a sweet bike...be sure to post up the pics. I'm curious to see how the I9's look.

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    Just uploaded some pics!

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    There has to be some more setups out there!! More pictures!

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    Ellsworth Epi Setup

    My med epi came out to be 24.14lbs w/pedals

    setup:
    frame: 2008 Med Pink
    fork: blackbox reba 120 team 20mm maxlite/remote lock
    brakes: formula oro puro 160/160
    cranks: 2008 xtr
    headset: king pewter
    front der/rear: xtr/sram-xo
    shifters: sram xo trigger
    cassette: sram pg990 11-32
    wheels: front/rear king hubs/stans 355 ztr 20mm thru axle - running stans' jizz
    spokes: dt supercomps
    tires: conti race kings 2.2
    bars: easton monkeylite
    seatpost/stem: thompson elite - 90mm 0 rise
    pedals: crank bros candy 4ti
    saddle: specialized phenom 130sl w/ti rails
    grips: cheapy foam grips
    seat clamp: hope quick release

    sorry for not having a picture yet: post as soon as I take one.

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    photo for description above.



    Just finished riding in the Heat...
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    Are those Mag rockers?

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    Yup, they are the mag rockers a little lighter than alu. Sorry for the fuzzy phone picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklineDr
    Yup, they are the mag rockers a little lighter than alu. Sorry for the fuzzy phone picture.
    You do know what happens to the Mags rockers? There is a reason for why they have stopped doing them and all new bikes are sent with Alu rockers.

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    There are a batch of mag rockers that are known to be brittle and break under heavy loads. This could happen when the lockout/propedal is set too high - mag rockers tend to crack. When mine reaches that point, I'll just trade them for the alu rockers.

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    I hope you don't lose your teeth when yours 'reach that point'. Good luck.

    (for the record the rockers cracking aren't just to do with lockout/propedal set too high, and it wasn't one batch - otherwise they wouldn't have replaced them with Alu).

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    We wouldn't want that!

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    Nice Bike Dr.

    Great bike Dr. Enjoy. If you can get ellsworth to ship you some alum. rockers for standby I'd highly reccomend that. The alums look great too! The Epiphany is truly a great super platform. Happy trails.

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    Thanks for the thumbs up, I will definitely keep that in mind. The Alu rockers are more stable in the long run.

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    being 6'3 215 lbs., am I too big for the epiphany? I am currently on a moment with fox 36 and the dhx both air. I have yet to demo any bikes which might be the way to go. Also, has anybody heard of running a rp23/fox 32 on the moment?

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    My 07 Epi is set up as follows:

    07 Med Epiphany (Smoke)
    06 Fox 32 Float RLC (130mm)
    Thomson Elite stem
    Easton XC70 carbon riser bar
    Hope Mono Mini brakes 160mm
    Thomson Masterpiece seatpost
    Selle Italia SLR saddle
    SRAM XO shifters
    Shimano XTR fd
    SRAM XO rd
    Industry Nine wheels

    Since the pic was taken, I've switched out the mag rockers for alloy ones and I'm running slightly larger tires (2.25 Ardents). It now weighs about 27 lbs.

    The bike climbs amazingly well and holds it's own on the descents. It's definitely not the Moment or Rogue on downhills, but it's no slouch, either
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    "Curb drops to flat, or curb drops to transition? There's a BIG difference there." Qfactor03

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    liking the pink I9s....

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