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    Convince me...

    ...of why I should not buy an Ellsworth Epiphany (frame only)
    Rider: '6"2 175lbs semi-agressive XC
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Canuck=-
    ...of why I should not buy an Ellsworth Epiphany (frame only)
    Rider: '6"2 175lbs semi-agressive XC
    Well, they're expensive, but I'm sure you knew that already.

    I think the Epiphany will be one of the lightest weight XC bikes in it's travel range. It should also ride extremely well. Sounds like a very tempting combination to me.
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    I don't think you're in the right forum to be convinced to not buy an Epiphany. Everyone here would encourage it I'd think. Seems like it will be one sweet ride and given your stats I think you would be happy with the purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Wheelbuilder
    I think the Epiphany will be one of the lightest weight XC bikes in it's travel range.
    How heavy is the Epiphany (frame)? My small Id weighs 5.86lbs with a High Volume RP3 while my small Spot weighs 6.35 with a DHX-A.
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    5.45 lbs with RP-3. Just weighed one off the line. Its black

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecusick
    5.45 lbs with RP-3. Just weighed one off the line. Its black
    Nice. I guess i'll have to get Ti bolts to get close to that weight on my Id.

    Pecusick, what is the actual BB height on the Epihany? Is it really 14.5"? (13+1+0.5 = 14.5; wheel diameter+~tire thickness+0.5)
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    <Convince me...
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    ...of why I should not buy an Ellsworth Epiphany (frame only)
    Rider: '6"2 175lbs semi-agressive XC>

    Don't buy one so there's more availability for me

    I think you should go read the suspension design comparison section in the Ellsworth website

    I think it's going to be a great frame for you for your intended purpose.

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    Hey Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by pecusick
    5.45 lbs with RP-3. Just weighed one off the line. Its black
    Weighed any large GREEN ones?
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    I am hoping to have one to "weigh" next week. If not the week after looks good

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    We should have our first Epipanies in next week

    I will tell you that I had several LONG conversations with their production people at Interbike, asking some hard questions... I liked what I heard

    how much abuse do you plan to give it?
    how big of drops?

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    Fill us in? What kind of conversations?

    I have an argument against it: The Moment is more versatile with longer legs. Also, it's got a some experience under its belt. Everyone knows you don't buy a product in its first year!

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    Alright, don't get one.

    Quote Originally Posted by -=Canuck=-
    ...of why I should not buy an Ellsworth Epiphany (frame only)
    Rider: '6"2 175lbs semi-agressive XC
    Get a Moment instead and become "fully aggressive" and expand your riding options. You will still be able to build it up fairly light for the all day epics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronny
    Get a Moment instead and become "fully aggressive" and expand your riding options. You will still be able to build it up fairly light for the all day epics.
    Yeah -=Canuck=-, you really should consider the Moment, I test rodeit and LOVED it, it felt plenty light and efficient for the xc/trail riding i like to do, but I decided to go with the EPI at 2 pounds lighter. I hope I didn't make a mistake...only tommorrow will tell, the Brown Santa will be visiting at about noon to drop it off.
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    Idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheadbikes
    We should have our first Epipanies in next week

    I will tell you that I had several LONG conversations with their production people at Interbike, asking some hard questions... I liked what I heard

    how much abuse do you plan to give it?
    how big of drops?
    Hey Charles,

    Since Ellsworth has gone inhouse for their fab., any chance that Hammerhead can get in on some custum enforced "Hammerhead Moments" or "Hammerhead EPIs"? I got to imagine they would be interested in making some money on the side with their new fab. Then again it seems as though Tony dislikes sharing his designs...I think i just talked myself through to the answer - oh well. I still think it would be a cool project though.

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    The thought crossed my mind...
    tony even jokingly said something along those lines at Interbike
    haven't dug into it..

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    No mistake made, the EPI flat out ROCKS!
    Get it and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Canuck=-
    ...of why I should not buy an Ellsworth Epiphany (frame only)
    Rider: '6"2 175lbs semi-agressive XC
    If you are canadian which by your handle I assume you are - you should check out the devinci remix line - horst link, laid back geo, light and likely at least one thousand bucks cheaper.

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    Idea! Best Idea Ever...wish I thought of it before I bought MY EPI

    Oh, thats right, we were supposed to convince you not to buy the EPI...Than how about this for something to consider:

    For the price of ONE (1) EPI frame alone, you could also purchase BOTH the Titus Moto-Lite AND the Yeti 575, both of which are EXCELENT contenders, and both that still make you feel bling bling while riding, but now you'll be doubly bling as you have 2 bikes to choose from in your quiver. C'mon, i know you have an old hardtail some where with enough components on it to build up that extra frame you're gonna now have - RIGHT!??

    Think about, with your two new frames you now have the choice of riding a 4", 5", or a 5.75" bike. If you want one solid reason, there it is!

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