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    california ID

    Can any cali ID riders tell me what the eye to eye and stroke is on your romic??

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzle-fry
    Can any cali ID riders tell me what the eye to eye and stroke is on your romic??
    I don't have a Romic for mine, but a Cali. Id takes a 7.5" eye to eye and 2" stroke shock, by definition.

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    Just about all 7.5" eye to eye shocks have a 2.0" stroke. Fox DHX, Roics, Progressives, Fox RP3, Fox Floats and most Fox Vanilla RCs are like this. There are a few Avalanche with 2.25" strokes and a very rare Fox Vanilla RC with a 2.25" stroke out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky7
    Just about all 7.5" eye to eye shocks have a 2.0" stroke. Fox DHX, Roics, Progressives, Fox RP3, Fox Floats and most Fox Vanilla RCs are like this. There are a few Avalanche with 2.25" strokes and a very rare Fox Vanilla RC with a 2.25" stroke out there.
    But on an Id, a 2.25" stroke with a 7.5 eye to eye would not work. The frame would make metal contact before bottoming.

    You could get away with a 7.75 eye to eye and a 2.25 stroke. Avalanche makes it and I have thought about buying one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve from JH
    But on an Id, a 2.25" stroke with a 7.5 eye to eye would not work. The frame would make metal contact before bottoming.

    You could get away with a 7.75 eye to eye and a 2.25 stroke. Avalanche makes it and I have thought about buying one.
    I haven't tried this on my frame yet, but have you tried the 7.5x2.25 combo? I was thinking about doing an Avy in this set up, but if it won't work, you would save me a lot of headache. Where does it hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky7
    I haven't tried this on my frame yet, but have you tried the 7.5x2.25 combo? I was thinking about doing an Avy in this set up, but if it won't work, you would save me a lot of headache. Where does it hit?
    I haven't tried it, but I'm just about positive that the rocker arm will contact the seat tube.

    When you set up the Id as a California edition, you're already forcing the linkage to travel farther than what was originally intended. The bike was originally meant to have a 7.875" eye to eye shock with either 2 or 2.25" stroke. With the shorter shock and the 2" stroke, the bottom out position is 1/8" farther into the travel (measured at the shock). There's almost no room left for further travel.

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    Thanks Steve! I'll probably be checking it this week just out of curiosity because I'll probably just get a 2.0" stroke again.

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    All clear here...

    I use a Talas rear shock where I can reduce the i2i by 1/2" from 7.875 to 7.375. So, y'all got me thinking. I took out my shock and bottomed the suspension so the bridge between the rockers hit the back of the ST. I measured the dist between shock mounts at 5.375".

    At 5.5" between shock mount centers, there's about 1/8" clearance at the ST. So, a 7.5 x 2.25" would theoretically work on mine. There may be some small manufacturing differences between frames, so you'll want to check your frame.

    As a side note, there is just a tiny corner between the ST and rocker bridge, at bottom out, to snake the front der housing thru. If it isn't routed exactly, you'll find your housing getting pinched.

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    Recheck your math.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Sol
    I use a Talas rear shock where I can reduce the i2i by 1/2" from 7.875 to 7.375. So, y'all got me thinking. I took out my shock and bottomed the suspension so the bridge between the rockers hit the back of the ST. I measured the dist between shock mounts at 5.375".

    At 5.5" between shock mount centers, there's about 1/8" clearance at the ST. So, a 7.5 x 2.25" would theoretically work on mine. There may be some small manufacturing differences between frames, so you'll want to check your frame.

    As a side note, there is just a tiny corner between the ST and rocker bridge, at bottom out, to snake the front der housing thru. If it isn't routed exactly, you'll find your housing getting pinched.
    7.5 - 5.375 = 2.125. So 2.125" would seem to be the maximum stroke possible with a 7.5" eye to eye. And that's leaving no leeway.

    I had to fuss with the front derailer housing when I set up my bike to make sure it didn't get pinched.

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    Duh...oops.

    Morning brainfart. You're correct.

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    Hey, we all make mistakes, but thanks for posting your findings, very helpful!

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    on my bike, the ABSOLUTE minimum bottom out eye-to-eye is 5.5"

    I have a 7.5"x 2.0" RP3 on a small Id, and the top rocker is hitting the seatpost collar occasionally, on the biggest hits. I suspect a longer stroke shock (with same e-t-e), or shorter e-t-e shock (with same stroke) wouldn't last too long at all - before breaking the top rocker from a solid impact to the seatpost collar.

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