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    The Torrance Barrens

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    Looks awesome! What is the yellow bar on the side of your bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toogy View Post
    Looks awesome! What is the yellow bar on the side of your bike?
    It's a dog leash, keeps him safe on roads and sidewalks. I can access several trail heads with a short road ride from home, which is when this comes into play. It can also be used on single track but I rarely use it that way. He can tow me with this too, which is cool! Instead of electric assist I can use K-9 assist
    This one is called " Running Dog Bike Tow Leash" and I have had it probably 6 yrs now. biketowleash.com for more info
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    At least the deer flies won't bother you too much at this time of year!
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    Any news on the decrepit bridges?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_o View Post
    Any news on the decrepit bridges?
    Still decrepit. I should call MLT for an update. They were supposed to be replaced last summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    Still decrepit. I should call MLT for an update. They were supposed to be replaced last summer
    Can you do a decent loop with out touching any bridges or would a ride these days be sorta an out and back type deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_o View Post
    Can you do a decent loop with out touching any bridges or would a ride these days be sorta an out and back type deal?
    You need to cross bridges on the Pine Lake Loop, two of which are very broken up but I can still manage to get across. The main trail and the Barrens Extention trail can be ridden. I'm guessing the Pine Lake Loop accounts for ~35 or 40% of total trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    You need to cross bridges on the Pine Lake Loop, two of which are very broken up but I can still manage to get across. The main trail and the Barrens Extention trail can be ridden. I'm guessing the Pine Lake Loop accounts for ~35 or 40% of total trails.
    Gotcha. Appreciate the info as always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgage View Post
    At least the deer flies won't bother you too much at this time of year!
    LOL! How much over ther now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revrnd View Post
    LOL! How much over ther now?
    speaking of deer flies Revnd...

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    Went out there today considering the weather rolling in this weekend. Great spring riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    speaking of deer flies Revnd...

    That video makes it look like I know what I'm doing LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by revrnd View Post
    That video makes it look like I know what I'm doing LOL
    I remember how bad the deer flies were! In the video they look the size of humming birds LOL near the end when we are approaching the lake!
    Bonnie and I have ridden in there to swim and once you stop riding moving around so much they "buzz off" after 10-15 minutes and it's glorious
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    It was just magical riding on the Torrance Barrens today :)

    ...and btw I was talking with the Muskoka Trails Council last week, and they assured me that the bridges/boardwalks will be replaced this summer. Fingers crossed!!
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    the girls taking a break at the Barrens a few days ago...man that place is hard on tires

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    Did they fix the bridges yet?

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    not yet, still all taped off

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    ...and btw I was talking with the Muskoka Trails Council last week, and they assured me that the bridges/boardwalks will be replaced this summer. Fingers crossed!!
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    @BlackCanoeDog:

    What make/model of vehicle in the pictures above?

    We are in the market for a new vehicle and would like something big enough to put 2 bikes in the back (with or without front wheel attached), but also not ginormous and hard on gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray.vermette View Post
    @BlackCanoeDog:

    What make/model of vehicle in the pictures above?

    We are in the market for a new vehicle and would like something big enough to put 2 bikes in the back (with or without front wheel attached), but also not ginormous and hard on gas.
    Hi Ray! It is a RAM Promaster City Wagon SLT. This is the 5 seat passenger version of their small commercial van. With split rear seats folded and flipped I can easily roll in our fat bikes, plus bikes etc. And still have room for the big dog on one side of the back seats! Loving this thing! Could easily do a camping road trip with it too although I have a small camper trailer that I can tow. Tow capacity is 2000 lb and cargo capacity is 1800 lb. Powered by 2.4L 4 mated to a 9 spd tranny that also has manual shift mode, great for pulling a trailer up a grade or for engine braking going down. Rated for 35 mpg highway, 29 mpg mixed, and 24 mpg city. I recently got 34.8mpg on a run from Muskoka to Pearson Airport and return, highway portion typically 110-115 KPH. That's with roof rails and crossbars up top too. Gearing maintains under 2000 rpm at highway speeds except when climbing, hence the good mileage for a van!. I average ~31 MPG day in day out driving back and forth to work (10 K each way highway) plus errands around town! This one has NAV, heated seats, remote start, backup camera, proximity sensors, plus all the usual options like AC etc. OH ...and the windows in the 2 sliding side hatch doors fully open, power down/up!

    PS: Tends to attract attention at trailheads, grocery store parking lots, and double-takes on the highway lol, as most people are not aware of these

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    What happened to the Subaru?

    BTW what or who took out the dam on the one pond at the barrens? (noticed that last year when I was up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by db9 View Post
    What happened to the Subaru?

    BTW what or who took out the dam on the one pond at the barrens? (noticed that last year when I was up)
    Traded it in ...reluctantly. It was 2013 and Subaru had just put a new engine in it ( excessive oil consumption) with extended 4 yr warranty!
    I wanted to keep the Subaru and we would sell my wife's 2005 Smart convertible since it is 13 yrs old now. With the Suby plus this Promaster City we would not need another vehicle for many years. BUT...I could not pry that Smart out of her hands, she loves it!! And the Crosstrek is a bit small for road trips if you want to take bikes, a big dog, etc. It's ok when travelling solo but that's about it. With the PMC we can road trip with bikes inside and a big dog if we wish. keeps the bikes out of the elements and out of sight if we are hiking, or in a restaurant for dinner. Also nice to haul fatbikes inside in winter, keeping the salt spray off!
    I could have kept the Suby and the Smart, but I hate having more cars than drivers sitting around!

    My guess was MNR cutthat channel, but then I have had people who "presume to know" tell me that MNR doeasn't do that. So truth is I don't know nor does anyone i have talked to. Unfortunate but last ride there this spring i notice the pond has partially filled in again. Nothing as nice as it was though. Maybe beavers will patch it I hope! Bridges are supposed to get done this summer but nothing done yet AFAIK
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    I know - we get attached to our vehicles at some point ..

    I have a 12 Forester and I really like it for what it does (I moved over from a Ford SVT)
    but I'm on my 3rd short block for oil consumption (I'm at 230,000km) by the time they fix the issue the rest of the vehicle will be worn out.. going back soon to start another oil consumption test!

    As always thanks for providing photos and hope to get to the barrens again this season ..

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    Went here on the weekend for the first time. Pretty cool looking spot. We planned on fat biking, but after seeing some of the ice and not having studded tires, aborted that and just hiked the Pine Ridge Loop.

    The bridges that we crossed are still in disrepair.

    Definitely coming back to ride in the spring time though, bridges or not.

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    Devil's Gap Trail to Torrance Barrens Lookout and return - fat biking

    We rode out from West Gravenhurst to Torrance Barrens yesterday, via Devil's Gap Trail. There is a cross-cut trail from DGT into the Barrens, but rugged and very hilly. No one had been through that trail at all, we were only ones. A sled had tried it and gave up! Only bummer was Marion's rear hub failed on the return run, and we ended up walking/ bike pushing the last 12 K back to the DGT trail head! That said, gorgeous but cold day and fat biking conditions in the area are SUPERB at this point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadmos View Post
    Went here on the weekend for the first time. Pretty cool looking spot. We planned on fat biking, but after seeing some of the ice and not having studded tires, aborted that and just hiked the Pine Ridge Loop.

    The bridges that we crossed are still in disrepair.

    Definitely coming back to ride in the spring time though, bridges or not.
    PS: we saw your foot prints on the Pine Ridge Loop! You should have rode, conditions were amazing! The girls have studded tires but I don't (Bud & Lou)and I had no issues. A few spots I had to get off and skirt around and so did they, but few and far between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    PS: we saw your foot prints on the Pine Ridge Loop! You should have rode, conditions were amazing! The girls have studded tires but I don't (Bud & Lou)and I had no issues. A few spots I had to get off and skirt around and so did they, but few and far between.
    Yeah once we got further back on the loop, we both said we should have biked! But not having been there before and seeing the ice near the parking lot had us questioning it.

    We'll be back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadmos View Post
    Yeah once we got further back on the loop, we both said we should have biked! But not having been there before and seeing the ice near the parking lot had us questioning it.

    We'll be back!
    We rode in from the north, entering Pine Ridge Loop just where the blue sign is that says " <---Gravenhurst 16 Km Bala 19 Km --->"
    Then we rode east to the "Lookout", which is on the ridge but several hundred meters east of where the trail comes over the bridge and up the cliff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCanoeDog View Post
    We rode in from the north, entering Pine Ridge Loop just where the blue sign is that says " <---Gravenhurst 16 Km Bala 19 Km --->"
    Then we rode east to the "Lookout", which is on the ridge but several hundred meters east of where the trail comes over the bridge and up the cliff.
    Noting that lookout spot for the future...

    We were also a little surprised to see snowmobile trail back there (at that sign). Looked pretty tough going at that sign, going north!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadmos View Post
    Noting that lookout spot for the future...

    We were also a little surprised to see snowmobile trail back there (at that sign). Looked pretty tough going at that sign, going north!
    Indeed! The cross-cut trail form there to DGT is very rugged especially this year with low snow pack and no sleds. Some substantial hills and lots of steep punchy climbs. I think this is why Marion's hub failed, so much torque on the climbs. The down runs and the tech riding compensates though , it was still fun! And I couldn't believe some of the climbs that Manda ( blue bike ) was making in there!!! No pics of that section and unfortunately it is only accessible in winter, too swampy in the low spots in summer, myself and others have tried because it would make a great OSRT -> DGT loop without having to come out to Southwood Rd and around to Clear Lake Rd...
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    Skinbase ski

    Did some skinbase ski touring in the Barrens today. Forecast had called for a sunny day, but not even close! Hard pack crust with a few cm of fresh powder on top. Not great ski conditions but still enjoyable none-the-less. Finally some significant snowfall forecast throughout next week so fingers crossed they get it right this time...lol!
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    Awesome pics!
    Fingers crossed we get the snow they are promising!!

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    Bluebird day at the Barrens

    ...for skinbased ski touring!
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    First Tread 2019

    Remnants of winter on the Torrance Barrens...
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    Ditto

    ...but what a difference a week makes!
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    Cool. All bikeable on non-fat bikes? Any word on those bridges finally being fixed?

    Do you by any chance know when Buckwallow opens? Finding that info every year is tricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadmos View Post
    Cool. All bikeable on non-fat bikes? Any word on those bridges finally being fixed?

    Do you by any chance know when Buckwallow opens? Finding that info every year is tricky.
    Yep one can certainly manage with a mountain bike, but some of the waterholes are still so deep and wide that a fat bike is a huge advantage to making it through. Which translates into drier feet at the end of the day and much less trail damage. Sorry I have no update on the bridges, and I am tired of asking and being told "this year for sure" only to be disappointed. That said, I'm still making it across the bridges but it's sketchy for sure! Regarding Buckwallow, Mike is aiming to open for May 4th, providing the weather co-operates!
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    Warm sunshine and blue skies are the best...

    on the Barrens! PS: -bridges are still very sketchy
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