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    Dear Cycling Ontario

    Could you for one year not make it an exercise to find out the citizen membership fees? Or any other costs? One should not have to start emailing and such to find out what they need to pay for this year. Or is this a continuation of the 2010 policies to drive people off.

    I find it funny how OAT- Tri Ontario with way more members and less staff can get all the fees up. Hmm.. maybe I should send my money their way this season.

    And yes I hate bureaucratic bullshite doping.

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    $45.

    Already signed up and got my citizen permit number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    $45.

    Already signed up and got my citizen permit number.
    Keener! I'm waiting for the bike show. It's usually $5 off there!
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    Can we buy our license online or do we need to print and mail the form in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Keener! I'm waiting for the bike show. It's usually $5 off there!
    True, but apparently not keen enough. I got J003. 2 people beat me. That said, I do have a reason: its required to ride at the Velodrome for rec sessions.

    CaptSydor: No online registration as far as I know. I just filled mine out scanned and emailed it in. Chris @ OCA got back to me the next day with my info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    True, but apparently not keen enough. I got J003. 2 people beat me. That said, I do have a reason: its required to ride at the Velodrome for rec sessions.

    CaptSydor: No online registration as far as I know. I just filled mine out scanned and emailed it in. Chris @ OCA got back to me the next day with my info.
    Scanning and emailing is fine.

    Heaven forbid I have to seek out a stamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor
    Heaven forbid I have to seek out a stamp.
    Did you know that regular stamps don't even have denominations on them anymore! Wow!
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    i'm going to get a citizen only because the license i really want isn't available in middle age white.
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    Sheesh I only made it 6 weeks into 2011 before I got agitated by a sport governing body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor
    Scanning and emailing is fine.

    Heaven forbid I have to seek out a stamp.
    I think a fax machine is worse though. I think every time I've sent a fax, I've walked away wondering if it actually went through. For whatever reason I don't get that feeling with email or post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Did you know that regular stamps don't even have denominations on them anymore! Wow!
    Actually yeah, I always have a pack sitting in my desk, because is so pesky to go find them all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil
    Sheesh I only made it 6 weeks into 2011 before I got agitated by a sport governing body.
    To your credit, I did not find it on the OCA website, I still don't think it's posted. A friend who was also in contact with OCA emailed it to me.

    Also to your credit, the fact that its required to ride at the velodrome in 2011, and its 6 weeks into 2011 and the form isn't posted yet, and the only alternative (in order to ride) is to pay an additional $30 for other insurance through the FCV, I could understand it being a bit frustrating. Thankfully OCA was able to turn my application around quickly and said they would mail me my physical permit as soon as they received affiliation from my club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    ...as soon as they received affiliation from my club.
    They just sent out the affiliation reminder so it shouldn't be long now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    They just sent out the affiliation reminder so it shouldn't be long now.

    Wasn't that what they said last fall in regards to Cyclocross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    To your credit, I did not find it on the OCA website, I still don't think it's posted. A friend who was also in contact with OCA emailed it to me.

    Also to your credit, the fact that its required to ride at the velodrome in 2011, and its 6 weeks into 2011 and the form isn't posted yet, and the only alternative (in order to ride) is to pay an additional $30 for other insurance through the FCV, I could understand it being a bit frustrating. Thankfully OCA was able to turn my application around quickly and said they would mail me my physical permit as soon as they received affiliation from my club.

    So when are we starting the 2011 Commissaries Craig Fagan thread of love?

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    Lets save that for the fall, no need to taint MTB season with thoughts of CF droning on and on in my head.

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    Screw that. Never too soon to drag this one out!

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    Ah, some amusement before the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil
    So when are we starting the 2011 Commissaries Craig Fagan thread of love?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nogearshere
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    I see your feeling Olympic today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    They just sent out the affiliation reminder so it shouldn't be long now.
    It's kind of funny when I think about the following. But kind of sad as well.

    I have raced Duathlon and such since 1987. Other then the arguments about drafting. There is no where near the level of anal retentivness about rules regarding tire size, sock colour, and so on. Though to give them credit the officials fully enforce the rules for the elites but are not ranting endlessly at events about this stuff to the non elites. Not counting drafting.

    Bike racing is closer to a draconian state really. What's even funnier is how back in 2004 when I was dealing with Tri Ontario's office. I learned that they looked at OCA for example of things not to do.

    Part of the reason I say this.. is because I have a coaching oppurtunity this summer for multisport. And it's very tempting to head in that direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    I think a fax machine is worse though. I think every time I've sent a fax, I've walked away wondering if it actually went through. For whatever reason I don't get that feeling with email or post.
    That's weird, the fax is the only thing that tells you it actually went through.
    Stop hating on faxes.
    Woo-hoo! Fax. Number 1!

    How ironic that this thread came up eh Monster Squad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Screw that. Never too soon to drag this one out!

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    Ahahaha! The first part sounds like me @ Centennial Cross. Brilliant.

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    lulz! @ nogears

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    Interesting.... the fee is now online. Yet no response from the email I sent asking what the fee was. I guess OCA really does not like responding to questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil
    Interesting.... the fee is now online. Yet no response from the email I sent asking what the fee was. I guess OCA really does not like responding to questions.
    If YOUR name is on a membership ... they must.

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    What is the benefit of a citizen's permit over no license? One can still purchase three one-event permits, and race in citizen's events without a permit, correct?

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    The benefit (other than getting the swanky OCA newsletter) is that you get to do an unlimited amount of races (as opposed to just three). And it only makes sense if you plan on racing in a category (like single-speed) that the UCI doesn't believe exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    The benefit (other than getting the swanky OCA newsletter) is that you get to do an unlimited amount of races (as opposed to just three). And it only makes sense if you plan on racing in a category (like single-speed) that the UCI doesn't believe exists.
    Well, it's also handy for such things as the Tuesday night race series, Substance Racing Marathons (and other events), Super-Ds and the like. If you're only doing OCups, then either race only three times or pony up for the full-on licence (unless you're a nefarious singlespeeder).

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    Thanks. Since I'm not single-speed I guess it makes more sense for me to spend $30 on one-event permits if I choose rather than $45 on a citizen's permit. I will be getting the UCI CX license when it becomes available though.

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    I would assume that since you are not actually doing any races you won't need a citizen permit.

    The one day permit fee is included in the registration costs of major citizen events (lake2lake, Squeezer). Yes you can only do three events although I'm not sure that is actually tracked outside of OCups.

    By the way, have you noticed that the one event permit fee is $8 at ToP, $12 for Bronte and over $13 for XC OCup?

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    13 bucks! Well, $39 is still less than $45. Although I have no plans to race O-Cups this year I still may choose to do one or two.

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    Well... after numerous meetings with the finance and the fun hog committee's. And the careful review of recent developments not related to bikes. And a extensive cost analysis.

    A decision has been reached. Brockville about 45 minutes away has a race seen that is dirt cheap. Less stress then trying to get to other places. Even when one factors in gas cost still cheaper. Which leaves more money for BEER.

    But the over riding issue was the need to get a coaches license. The choice was MTB at $80 or Tri at $50 . Since either will meet the requirement OAT wins for the simple factor of $30 left over for beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil
    Well... after numerous meetings with the finance and the fun hog committee's. And the careful review of recent developments not related to bikes. And a extensive cost analysis.

    A decision has been reached. Brockville about 45 minutes away has a race seen that is dirt cheap. Less stress then trying to get to other places. Even when one factors in gas cost still cheaper. Which leaves more money for BEER.

    But the over riding issue was the need to get a coaches license. The choice was MTB at $80 or Tri at $50 . Since either will meet the requirement OAT wins for the simple factor of $30 left over for beer.
    Ya but how well do you know GM and Nerdgirl???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat Tyred
    Ya but how well do you know GM and Nerdgirl???
    Biblically, not at all but we have had him over for lunch. Lovely fellow, if a little bit into triathlons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Biblically, not at all but we have had him over for lunch. Lovely fellow, if a little bit into triathlons.
    Well.. Melanie McQuaid is now a off road Tri Geek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Biblically, not at all but we have had him over for lunch. Lovely fellow, if a little bit into triathlons.
    That is what I though you would say, if made to good luck with your all your friends intentions.

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