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    SHIMANO 10 SPEED 11-42 vs SUNRACE 11-42

    Which is lighter when it comes to weight, and durability? shimano 10 speed 11-42 or the sunrace 11-42 10 speed?

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    Shimanos cassette is bottom of the barrel, the better of the sunrace one will be lighter.

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    well...(sounds like) there is a Shimano 10 speed 11-42 introduced with the new Deore M6000 series.
    Been using both Shimano XT converted cassettes (to 11-42) and Sunrace 11-42 and the Sunrace shifts a bit better around the 16t cog, Shimano converted lasts longer.
    I would go for the new Deore CS-HG500-10 if I was to buy today, if it's anything like the HG50 Deore it's a solid cassette that will last longer and give you the Shimano smooth shifting.
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    There is a CS-HG500 11-42 cassette - 10 speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mevnet View Post
    well...there is no Shimano 10 speed 11-42 unless you're talking about a converted Shimano cassette with a kit from OneUp, Wolftooth, etc.
    Have both and the Sunrace shifts a bit better around the 16t cog, shimano converted might last longer.
    Well... yes there is. Shimano HG50 10-Speed 11-42t Cassette

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    Which is lighter when it comes to weight, and durability? shimano 10 speed 11-42 or the sunrace 11-42 10 speed?
    It's not bottom of the barrel, it's a Deore level cassette. I've used at least 4 wide 10 Spd Sunrace cassettes. They're OK, they do the job but in my experience they wear really fast and don't shift great with XT/SLX derailleurs (The Goatlink helps). It's tolerable, but I'm guessing the Shimano unit will shift better and last longer. I just bought one but haven't installed it or ridden it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uzurpator View Post
    There is a CS-HG500 11-42 cassette - 10 speed.
    What do I know? Thx for the correction lol
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    Its a brand new addition to shimano. New release shimano 10s RDs (at least deore and slx) do fine with it, no mods.

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    I've not been able to locate a weight spec on the CS-HG500 11-42 10 speed cassette. Anyone else find it?

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    I have the 11 seed version of the sunrace on my fatbike. I folded the big cog with the original design, but since they replaced it with the newer design, it's held up well. I'm 230 lbs mashing 28/42 gearing with fatbike traction, so its been tested to handle some decent torque. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the sunrace again.

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    I think we can all agree that Shimano stepping up their 10 speed range with the M6000 RD will mean a lot to the continued existence of wide range 10 speed cassettes, though, which is something that makes me happy as I am just now moving to 1x10.

    I know I'm 2-3 years behind, but it seems to fit my needs and is cheaper than 1x11. ;-)

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    Looks like the carrier for the largest gears is big enough not to gouge an aluminum hub.

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    Yes, I bought RD-M6000 GS Shadow+ and it work's great with 11-42 SunRace MS3.

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    I just installed the 11-42 HG500. Replaced the MX3 Sunrace. The Shimano shifts great minus 1 issue. It is very slow to drop off the 15. The Sunrace did just fine. New cable and housing. New chain. XT derailleur. [email protected] with it for quite a while. Put the Sunrace back on. Drops just fine. I'm going to try it on my hardtail that has 11-42 Sunrace. If I have the same issue it's going back. All shifts are great except having to double tap down 2 cogs to get it to drop off the 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I just installed the 11-42 HG500. Replaced the MX3 Sunrace. The Shimano shifts great minus 1 issue. It is very slow to drop off the 15. The Sunrace did just fine. New cable and housing. New chain. XT derailleur. [email protected] with it for quite a while. Put the Sunrace back on. Drops just fine. I'm going to try it on my hardtail that has 11-42 Sunrace. If I have the same issue it's going back. All shifts are great except having to double tap down 2 cogs to get it to drop off the 15.
    That sounds like a setup issue. It's a Shimano product with a Shimano product, and the parts are new. Should be flawless.

    Check your derailleur hanger alignment. Check your B-screw. etc. If you can't figure it out have a mechanic look at it.
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    Hanger is straight. B screw is perfect. It's only doing it with this cassette. I've set up dozens of these but this is the first time for this particular cassette. I'll look at it again today with a clear head.
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    That sounds like a setup issue. It's a Shimano product with a Shimano product, and the parts are new. Should be flawless.

    Check your derailleur hanger alignment. Check your B-screw. etc. If you can't figure it out have a mechanic look at it.
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    Maybe try changing out the shift cable in case it's kinked somehow?
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    I think that will be my next step. I took it out to a nice flow Trail today and I had one wheel with the sunrace on it and it did fine. Then I did another lap swapped out the wheel with the Shimano cassette. It did better than it did on a stand but still at times there was a bit of a burp when dropping down off that 15.
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    Maybe try changing out the shift cable in case it's kinked somehow?
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    Not that I think this is the cause/fix, but I noticed an improvement in shifting when I added a Wolftooth Goatlink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    Not that I think this is the cause/fix, but I noticed an improvement in shifting when I added a Wolftooth Goatlink.
    I just ordered one. Hope that helps. I could leave the Sunrace on but it's getting a bit worn. I've been trying this on my Epic. Plan on mounting to my Fuse just for fun. I take it personally when I can't get perfect shifting and actually like the challenge. Most every build I've done works very well from day one so I guess have time for a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterboy View Post
    Which is lighter when it comes to weight, and durability? shimano 10 speed 11-42 or the sunrace 11-42 10 speed?
    I don't know about weight but the shimano definitely shifts better. I have both-

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    The Shimano is about 45 grams more than the Sunrace.
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    I don't know about weight but the shimano definitely shifts better. I have both-

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankpuller View Post
    I don't know about weight but the shimano definitely shifts better. I have both-
    Hmmmm...my 11-40 MX3 shifts as well as my old 11-36 XT. I honestly can't tell a difference in performance and really prefer Sunrace's steps between gears vs Shimano's 11-42. Been using it for close to 1K miles of singletrack and still going strong.
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    Reviving an old thread...

    Can anyone chime in on the Goatlink with either setup? From what I've read, it's almost a must with the Sunrace. I'm happy to spend the $20 if it helps with the Shimano cassette?

    Also, how is the wear with the Shimano cassette vs. the Sunrace. 45 grams is nothing to me if I could get more longevity off from the Shimano.
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    Does anyone know what are the differences between the two cassettes below?

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    https://www.amazon.com/SHIMANO-Tiagr.../dp/B072TS85WS

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    It's the same cassette.

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    According to manufacturer response "Tiagra is the road version of the deore on mountain bikes".

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