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    Yakuza suspension questions... (X-Post from IH)

    I didn't get any help over there so I thought I would give you guys a shot.

    I know there are a few yak's out there.

    I was just wondering what your weight is and what coil you are running (what weight coil)?

    Also if you are running the super T what weight oil are you running (and your weight)?

    I have been riding mine for about a year now and I want to make the suspension work a little more like it should.

    Another question I have is, Have any of you upgraded your rear shock from the stock swinger to something better? If so did it help? does the rear end feel like it should? (i know how that sounds) I am thinking about getting a roco or DHX...

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    i have the super T on mine. it feels good pretty much stock w/ stock oil and springs. i weight around 157. all i did was take a little air out so the preload was lower and turned up the rebound(faster) and made the compression so it was more linear.

    the swinger is bad if you have any air in the spv valve. i took all the air out of mine today xcept for the required amount, which i think is 10psi. it feells better now, and a lot more linear, more like a DHX.

    also, what are you setting it up for, because mine is set up for general FR/DH and nothing special, just so i dont have to re-adjust all the time. i just like my bike to be hassle free.
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    What rate spring do you have on the shock?

    I am setting it up for DH/FR too, more DH though
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    Uhh, 10psi in a swinger=voided warranty and no rebound damping. Minimum is 50, and given the crapness of most shock pumps I usually put it at 75 and expect it to leak out the 25 extra psi I don't want. As for spring, I weigh 190, have 50-75psi and run a 400 lb spring with a good bit of preload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatetokil
    Uhh, 10psi in a swinger=voided warranty and no rebound damping.

    Hmmmm, maybe I should add some air to my shock... I only run 10-15 psi also... OOPS
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    Is it the original 4way or the "X4?" Might be different now but the original one was 50psi min.

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    the new one that just came out. and i dont really care if i void the warranty cuz it is a shiaty shock anyways and i will get a new one when it blows up.

    and my spring is a 350lb. i could probably use a 400 though.
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    http://www.manitoumtb.com/manuals/06_manitou_shocks.pdf

    WARNING: RIDING YOUR BICYCLE WITH IMPROPER REAR SHOCK
    PRESSURE CAN RESULT IN LOSS OF CONTROL AND
    POSSIBLE SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH.
    SWINGER SPV rear shocks depend on the SPV air pressure (pressure in the red
    Schrader valve) to create damping and function properly. The air pressure
    range is 50-175 psi (3.5 - 12 bar). A pressure within this range must be chec ked
    and maintained before each ride. Use of the rear shock with improper air
    pressure can cause a total loss of damping and malfunction of the rear shock.


    ^Your shock may not be as terrible when following the manufacturers setup guidelines
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    oops... I will fix that right away.
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    I ride a yakuza type r. The rear shock is the swinger 4-way with the spv removed. I weigh 140 pounds and run the 300 pound spring. I think I have the bare minimum air in the shock, about 50 psi. I have a fox 40rc2 up front.
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    I have an Aniki and my friend has a Sohon Bucho. The shocks on both really suck, so you should try to upgrade asap, I'm getting a vanilla, but I'd get a roco if I had money.

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    Totally different shocks.

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    ya, i tought it was that low, but it was actually at 70 psi, so i am good. the problem was the air volume was at 3, so the pedaling platform was almost all the way on. i turned it off, and it feels way better.
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