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    New question here. Transition Trail-or-Park

    Hi,
    I want to change my FS bike to a HT which can handle drops (max 10 footer to tranny), but w/ i can do dirt jumps and street too (a good DJ/street park is there). I couldn't afford an Evil Imperial nor a Santa Cruz Chameleon (I live in Hungary, and SC's distributor is very expensive here), so maybe I'll go with a Transition Tral-or-Park. What is your opinion?

    Thanks for any advice

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    forgot to mention

    that if anybody has pictures, please post it!!

    Thanks!

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    i've ridden one...

    it was very stiff, i even was trying extra hard on the sideloading. (i hate flexy junk) it was even very light for a cro-mo frame. beefy oversized tubes make for a sexy bike. the geometry seemed spot on. i was using it for park riding (go figure, a trail-or park at the park) it will for sure be my next hardtail.

    sorry i don't really have more info for you, my saddle time was limited...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire
    that if anybody has pictures, please post it!!

    Thanks!
    I ride one. Its a pretty fun bike. Its definitely pretty burly. Kyle and Kevin (the owners of Transition) are great guys to buy a bike from too. There arent too many of these out there yet. Check it out.











    PM me if you have any questions about it, I would be happy to answer them.

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    Showtime...tire ?

    are those Blings or something else? I like the pattern and they look like a great tire for multiuse. My Kinetics are holding up well and the Hookworms are perfect but I'd love an intermediate tire that can handle dirt (loose stuff and hardpack) as well as do okay on the street. For park, its all about the worms but for everything else...
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    Look like Larsen TT...

    Quote Originally Posted by namaSSte
    are those Blings or something else? I like the pattern and they look like a great tire for multiuse. My Kinetics are holding up well and the Hookworms are perfect but I'd love an intermediate tire that can handle dirt (loose stuff and hardpack) as well as do okay on the street. For park, its all about the worms but for everything else...
    The tires look like Maxxis Larsen TT tires. The come in a pretty beefy 2.35 (single ply sidewall) the works well in hardpack. They leave somthing to be desired in hard cornering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker.
    it was even very light for a cro-mo frame... beefy oversized tubes
    Are you serious? At 8 pounds (from the website) it's pretty much the heaviest hardtail on Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    Are you serious? At 8 pounds (from the website) it's pretty much the heaviest hardtail on Earth.
    maybe i thought it was light because it looks like it weighs 20...

    but again 8 lbs is a respectable weight for a cro-mo frame, my bmx frame weighs easily more than that......


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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    The tires look like Maxxis Larsen TT tires. The come in a pretty beefy 2.35 (single ply sidewall) the works well in hardpack. They leave somthing to be desired in hard cornering.
    Yep, those are the Larsen TT 2.35s. I like them a lot, they roll fast, and are good in harder conditions. But SSINGA is right, they aren't the best thing to push hard into corners. In fact, they disappear out from underneath you pretty quickly if you aren't careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker.
    maybe i thought it was light because it looks like it weighs 20...

    but again 8 lbs is a respectable weight for a cro-mo frame, my bmx frame weighs easily more than that......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showtime
    Yep, those are the Larsen TT 2.35s. I like them a lot, they roll fast, and are good in harder conditions. But SSINGA is right, they aren't the best thing to push hard into corners. In fact, they disappear out from underneath you pretty quickly if you aren't careful.
    thanks. Im looking for exactly the opposite. More along the lines of a lighter weight ds tire that will corner like its on rails but can handle some rougher terrain as well and not wear out the instant its hits pavement. Oh yeah, a nice single ply would be seet to keep the weight reasonable... in the words of King Arthur - yes, kind sir, we seek the Grail!
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    Hope weight...

    Well, I think the weight is quite astounding, it is really the heaviest hardtail on earth... Evil Imperial and Banshee Morphine are just 6-6.5 lbs. I'm very wimpy, I cant really choose between FS/HT, because I like freeriding, and I want to go big, but I like street riding too. I cant afford 2 bikes. So... the really question is that Dirtbag or Trail-or-Park. Dirtbag is a very good frame, and I've heard good things about it, but if I go with it, then I won't be able to do street riding.

    Sorry for the long essay

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    seems you just answered your own dillemma....

    you should not get it, because you think it is too heavy for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire
    Well, I think the weight is quite astounding, it is really the heaviest hardtail on earth... Evil Imperial and Banshee Morphine are just 6-6.5 lbs. I'm very wimpy, I cant really choose between FS/HT, because I like freeriding, and I want to go big, but I like street riding too. I cant afford 2 bikes. So... the really question is that Dirtbag or Trail-or-Park. Dirtbag is a very good frame, and I've heard good things about it, but if I go with it, then I won't be able to do street riding.

    Sorry for the long essay

    Coldfire
    well if your stuck between the 2...........i say you build up a preston freeride. it would fit what you want really well.
    build it with a z1freeride and some beefy components and your set.
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    no, but they are shinier....it's like the fututre, where everything is really really shiny.....but still really just the same ol'crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire
    Well, I think the weight is quite astounding, it is really the heaviest hardtail on earth... Evil Imperial and Banshee Morphine are just 6-6.5 lbs. I'm very wimpy, I cant really choose between FS/HT, because I like freeriding, and I want to go big, but I like street riding too. I cant afford 2 bikes. So... the really question is that Dirtbag or Trail-or-Park. Dirtbag is a very good frame, and I've heard good things about it, but if I go with it, then I won't be able to do street riding.

    Sorry for the long essay

    Coldfire
    Seems like if youre gonan be mostly doing street and stuff like that you should go for a hardtail, and since you're so against the weight of the Trail-or-Park go for an Imperial or something like that so that you can still go big and also do street and have a sweet hardtail setup.
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    Keewee

    You should check these badboys out. Awesome strong jump/urban/trail bike. They looking pimpin in black....

    http://www.keewee.co.nz/index.asp?PageID=2145822129
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    Well

    COmtbiker: you got the point, If i could afford it, i would go for an evil imperial. So suggest something which is similar to that, but a little bit cheaper.
    jungleuk: I checked it, and keewee bikes are very sweet, but they won't ship to Hungary
    Oh, and I've found a heavier HT than Trail-or-Park! Clifcat Tankass is 8,5 lbs

    Coldfire

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    steel vs. aluminium

    If you look at only weight you are missing the point of the steel vs aluminium hardtail. It is impossible to compare the weight of an aluminium hardtail with that of a steel hardtail. In most cases, not all, the aluminium hardtail is going to be lighter since it is a lighter material. So, if you looking only at weight get aluminium. Anyone who has ever ridden a steel hardtail will tell you that they have a totally different ride than that of an aluminium frame. I personally perfer the ride characteristics of a steel frame, and will never own an aluminium hardtail.

    A Le Toy, Morphine, and an Evil all weigh about 6+lbs, and are aluminium (and around $600+ usd for the frame). The Trail or Park, Planet X Pitbull, .243 racing, and the Norco 250 are all steel and weigh right about 8lbs (and are around $400 for frame). You may give up a little in the weight catagory going with a steel frame, but you gain ride characteristics that are inherent to steel. Ask around I think it is worth it.

    The Trail or Park is a very nice frame and the company will stand behind their product. I have ridden it with a 7" fork and a 5" fork and it is very nice. I would reccomend it. Just as a side note, if you happen to rob a bank and are able to afford to buy an Evil, you may want to ride one first. They may rival the Elsworthless Specialist for the most wacked out geometry ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtd
    If you look at only weight you are missing the point of the steel vs aluminium hardtail. It is impossible to compare the weight of an aluminium hardtail with that of a steel hardtail. In most cases, not all, the aluminium hardtail is going to be lighter since it is a lighter material. So, if you looking only at weight get aluminium. Anyone who has ever ridden a steel hardtail will tell you that they have a totally different ride than that of an aluminium frame. I personally perfer the ride characteristics of a steel frame, and will never own an aluminium hardtail.

    A Le Toy, Morphine, and an Evil all weigh about 6+lbs, and are aluminium (and around $600+ usd for the frame). The Trail or Park, Planet X Pitbull, .243 racing, and the Norco 250 are all steel and weigh right about 8lbs (and are around $400 for frame). You may give up a little in the weight catagory going with a steel frame, but you gain ride characteristics that are inherent to steel. Ask around I think it is worth it.

    The Trail or Park is a very nice frame and the company will stand behind their product. I have ridden it with a 7" fork and a 5" fork and it is very nice. I would reccomend it. Just as a side note, if you happen to rob a bank and are able to afford to buy an Evil, you may want to ride one first. They may rival the Elsworthless Specialist for the most wacked out geometry ever made.
    jtd, I agree with all the points you said. Except Im the opposite, I enjoy a nice aluminum hardtail frame as opposed to a steel one. Im a big guy and the flexy feel in the steel just isnt for me. But despite its flexy feel, its definitely bombproof as far as what it will take.
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    Thanks

    Thank you for all info! It was very interesting and informative!
    Oh, the last question: can i buy a Specialized P frame? I saw just full bikes on the homepage

    Coldfire

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    You can buy the P3 frame by itself, but i think its like $500 or so.
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