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    went to another doc, got a second opinion, torn rotator cuff. go in for an MRI tomorrow. anybody had this injury before? and how long for recovery? oh ya. might need ortho. My bike is now a firggin lawn ornimant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleA's
    went to another doc, got a second opinion, torn rotator cuff. go in for an MRI tomorrow. anybody had this injury before? and how long for recovery? oh ya. might need ortho. My bike is now a firggin lawn ornimant.
    I went went with the more conservative opinion I got, and it was to avoid surgery. I delayed going to a doctor for a while partially due to insurance coverage, and had significant atrophy by the time I did. Lots of PT got my range of motion back, ability to use the arm that could not lift an empty beer glass on one plane of motion, and a lot of relief from the pain caused by impingement.

    Just get two opinions if you can. The first time I saw a doctor for same shoulder he wanted to do surgery ASAP, and the highly respected sports med shoulder specialist at a teaching hospital was not quick to do it. Honest hard work with the physical therapy got me to where I can live with it.

    You may indeed have a situation that clearly calls for surgery, but remember my eye opener from the doc at the med school who said he does not have his own office, ski condo or ex wife to pay for and had a recipe that worked. He said my shoulder would never be the same with or without surgery and I'm biking, skiing and rowing with much less pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleA's
    went to another doc, got a second opinion, torn rotator cuff. go in for an MRI tomorrow. anybody had this injury before? and how long for recovery? oh ya. might need ortho. My bike is now a firggin lawn ornimant.
    i recently went otb. i dislocated the right shoulder for the 2nd time. the doc at the emergency room said "dislocation = torn rotator + 2nd time doing it = surgery." i did a few weeks in a sling, and not PT. then it still kept bothering me, so i got PT. the PT put it back to good in about a month. only time will tell if this band-aid will hold. but right now i feel pretty strong and i am willing to risk it for a while. i figure with summer coming, i will ride it until it pops again. if it holds, then great. if it pops, then i will think about surgery.

    keep your sheezy in a sling for a while. it will give the ligaments a better chance to heal up tight. if you are out of a sling, the weight of the arm will pull and stretch things out. the stretching is what leads to more shoulder dislocations and more tears and surgery. my PT said that my shoulder was way tight by the time i went to them. they said that was better than too loose.

    good luck.

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    I went to a physio, some ultrasound, some manual manipulation and some strengthening work and its back to better than normal. Back to full range of motion and its better than before. Riding is no problem and I'm back to my normal poundages in the gym so don't worry, it will take time but its fixable!

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    don't go to a regular doctor....find a good sports medicine doctor in your area. When I had trouble w/my knee a few years back I went to the doctor the Lakers and Rams (at the time in los angeles) used. I ended up not having surgery after 2 other doctors said it was necessary
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    don't go to a regular doctor....find a good sports medicine doctor in your area. When I had trouble w/my knee a few years back I went to the doctor the Lakers and Rams (at the time in los angeles) used. I ended up not having surgery after 2 other doctors said it was necessary

    Listen to Shivermetimbers on this one. I tore my RC before from a bad crash and went to a sport medicine Dr. from the Cleveland Clinic. He worked on many of the Cleveland professional athletes.

    *ALSO*. Forget the MRI, request an Ultra Sound for your shoulder. I had 2 MRI's and they didn't show jack. As soon as I had the US on my shoulder the Dr. pointed to the monitor and BAM there was the tear!!!

    Take your PT serious!!! The more time you spend with PT the faster your recovery time.

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    Sorry to hear about your injury. Listen to the Shiver...his advice is bueno!

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    I've gone the PT road as well and it will get you back up and moving but a guy I met on the chairlift once put it like this. "Once you get the demons in there they never go away." Its so true. I've gone months feeling fine and then reactivated the injury by sleeping with my arm in the wrong spot or throwing a football too hard. I figure surgury is inevitable. I here accupuncture works well too but I haven't tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleA's
    went to another doc, got a second opinion, torn rotator cuff. go in for an MRI tomorrow. anybody had this injury before? and how long for recovery? oh ya. might need ortho. My bike is now a firggin lawn ornimant.
    went through this a few years ago. If the doc can fix it by scoping it, then you won't miss much time. My doc told me scoping it would have me taking it easy for about a week, but surgery, if required, necesitates a longer recovery. When I went under, it was for an outpatient arthroscopic repair. When the doc actually saw the damage (I have some cool pix), he stopped the arthroscopic repair and cut me up. When I went under, I was expecting a 1 week recovery time, when I came out of it, the recovery time had been increased to ~4 months, with lots of passive PT. But I have full range of motion, with no apparent weakness, and no reason to suspect that it'll be a recurring injury.

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    I had a pretty bad RC tear when I was younger (about 20 years ago) from a skateboarding fall that led to my arm popping out whenever things got dicey.

    The doctor I saw at the time did not feel that surgery was warrented and just had me take it easy and once it was stable do some exercises to strengthen the muscles around the socket.

    After a year or two the injury disappeared completely and I have never had a reoccurence.

    A good sports doctor would be the call if you can swing it.

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    I tore my shoulder up pretty good on New Years 2000 up at Whistler while Telemarking down Ruby Bowl in crappy conditions. I did a self-arrest while sliding towards some rocks, but was on my back so it really yanked things hard in an odd direction. I didn't realize I was injured until the next day (after 3 hours of hot tubbing that night - but that's another story entirely). I couldn't even hold a gatorade up to take a drink.

    The doctor prescribed physical therapy and a whole lot of advil. We don't think it disclocated, but summabeeeatch hurt and had no strength. Took me 6 months of light repetitive weight work to get it back to strenght, and it would act up for about a year. After that I was back to 100%.

    The kicker is my doctor, who was a sports medicine specialist before he went into family practice, said it was weight lifting that caused the injury to be fairly severe. I'd been lifting hard for about 2 years, and had put 20 lbs onto my uber-lanky frame. I'd been doing a lot of shoulder workouts, but had neglected the back of my shoulder (which is harder to workout with weights). When I self-arrested the force on my shoulder, combined with a hard hit of adrenaline, made my muscles tense up in that superhuman way that only fear can do. Since the front of my shoulder was much stronger than the back, it ripped things up and yanked the joint forward much more than it would have if I wasn't as "strong".

    After this injury I moved to Hawaii for a while and did a whole lot of surfing and swimming, which is great therapy for back/shoulders, and probably helped me get back in shape.

    Long story, but the moral is to make sure you're getting a balanced workout. Bikers also tend to have strong quads and weak hams, so a little cross-training can do wonders to heal an injury or keep you from getting hurt in the first place.

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    After this injury I moved to Hawaii for a while and did a whole lot of surfing and swimming, which is great therapy for back/shoulders, and probably helped me get back in shape.

    Long story, but the moral is to make sure you're getting a balanced workout. Bikers also tend to have strong quads and weak hams, so a little cross-training can do wonders to heal an injury or keep you from getting hurt in the first place.
    Swimming, if not done properly can be very bad for shoulders (usually when done in large quanities with less than ideal technique). Be careful. Even good swimmers end up with bad shoulders sometimes.

    Surfing = not good for back. The position lying on the board is hard on the lower back. It is fun and good cross training, but be careful if you've got a bad back.

    Cross training is good. Great in fact. Regular stretching too, and warming up before you go to intense mode in whatever you are doing. Just be careful in selection of activity and technique.

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