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    tire question

    didnt really find what i was lookin for with a search so ill ask.....


    tryin to decde between minions and michelins


    whats the best set up for minions dhf/dhr. dhf up front, dhr rear? or some other combo. probably gonna run a 2.7 front and 2.5 rear.


    or should i just go with mich dh32s.

    stickin with tubes for now also.


    also anyone know who has these on the cheap?

    thanks for any help
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Here is somethin

    Best prices I could find in the US for Maxxis

    http://www.beyondbikes.com/bb/Items.asp?Mc=Maxxis

    Don't know what soil you run on..

    Most dry riders use DHF and a High-Roller rear..(Maxxis recommends)
    The 2.5 DHF is the same size as a 2.3 Specialized Resolution Pro 2BLiss (VERY big 2.3), narrower than the Michelin 24, but taller (lower pressure, no bent rim or pinch-flats)..

    Soft-ground riders like the High-Roller F/R

    Narrower than a Kenda 2.5

    The High-Roller is a couple mm smaller than the DHF

    The Minion DHR is almost identical tread (if a bit better) than the DH24.. and is the slowest-rolling of the bunch..

    Most of the DH folks around here use the 2.5 (or even 2.35).. The soil like Sea Otter or Corral Hollow (hard-packed sand, dust, soft sand, rocks, ruts..fast)
    the 2.5 turns better and rolls faster.. the 2.7 (about the size of a Kenda 2.5) is a bit better in the very-soft..

    40 Super-Tacky or 3C on the front, same or 60d on the rear..

    Don't be fooled by the 3C, might not be worth the extra $$$ for you.. It is not a 70d center and 40/42 side.. rather a 70 BASE layer , 42 center and 40 side...
    (same way Michelin does it)
    Knobs are stiffer, but when the soft part wears away you have a 70d tire..

    I have too sets of UST wheels I run regular, non-UST 60d DHF, and High-Rollers with Stans-Tubeless, (you can get the UST - 2.5 -60d's in GB at Chainreactioncycles they ship to the US)..on one set and the Super-Tacky 40's are UST also with Stans-Tubeless sealant on the other..all are 2.5

    I use a set of DHF 2.5 super-tacky on the front and a High-Roller 2.5 super-tacky on the rear for most races (UST)
    I usually run 25psi in the front and 25-30psi in the rear...
    For "pedally" courses I swicth to a 60d on the rear.. (sometimes front too)
    For weekends and on-road to get to the ride I use the same tires only 60d

    The 60d tires don't roll a whole lot faster than the 40s but the sure do wear better..
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    ANY of these tires roll one hellofalot faster than my old Mich DH24 2.5's which roll like your dragging an anchor, or a parachute..They are also about 400g @ heavier than the Maxxis

    I have never used, nor see much of the DH32 in Nor Cal, although I am sure people use them...too much hard-pack.. and I am reasonably sure they don't roll well on anything but soft ground..

    The Michelin team at Sea Otter (acording to Michelin) used 2.1- DH16's on the front and a Dry2 - 2.3 on the rear..
    The Maxxis team (acording to Maxxix) used 2.5 3C DHF and High-Rollers in various combination


    Hope this helps..(this is just observation and opinion, someone else might have something better.. )

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    a little off, but get the Specialized s-works Pin'It 2.5 tire.. sized like a 2.7, but hooks like it's made out of pixie dust and superglue.
    it has a umma gummi compound (so soft you can sleep on it!) 42a center and 40 side with 60tpi base. Thats what I rock, and love it. hooks up waaaay better then my previous minions and high rollers.

    Other then that i'd go with the Michelins. i would go with the comp24s though instead.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm I agree about the Pin'it, but..

    at $60 a pop (+ shipping and tx in Ca) with out any hope of a reasonable discount, unless you have a friend that works at a Specialized shop... They are out of my $$$$ range...

    I just bought a DHF 2.5 for $35.

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    oh then by all means rock the minions. plenty of people love them.
    And i am good friends with people that work at specialized so i can get them cheap. but i don't ride them because of that.
    good deal on that dhf.. thats a good price. may I ask what compound you got?
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Sure, here you go

    http://www.beyondbikes.com/bb/ItemMa...3&MatrixType=1

    It was for a 60d 2.5 and a super-tacky 2.5

    there is a 10% off MAXXIS code at

    http://www.beyondbikes.com/bb/Coupons.asp

    Comes to $35.99

    all there tires are at great prices..

    Hope this helps.

    Go the the High-Rollers they are not so cheap (even with the 10%..).. they are the more popular..(faster wearing too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtboutkast
    didnt really find what i was lookin for with a search so ill ask.....


    tryin to decde between minions and michelins


    whats the best set up for minions dhf/dhr. dhf up front, dhr rear? or some other combo. probably gonna run a 2.7 front and 2.5 rear.


    or should i just go with mich dh32s.

    stickin with tubes for now also.


    also anyone know who has these on the cheap?

    thanks for any help
    The DH32 is one of my favorite tires. Jenson has them for $41.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm That may be, but depends..

    Even talking with Michelin tire-tech guys, they don't recommend DH32's for anything but really steep, loose stuff... I was surprised, that's what I called to talk to them about

    They favor DH16's / Dry2's or DH24, / DH16 for hard-pack..
    I think that why the DH32 is so cheap, their use is limited, at least on the West-Coast..

    Just speculating..

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Actually a little more

    I should have pointed out the Pin'it UG40/42 is $65 a pop, the 60 is $60...

    Specialized has a great tire program.. but
    If the dealer doesn't stock it, its not so good. and they don't stock anything but XC sizes
    They really don't want to warranty SO tires.. etc..
    (Mikesbikes is great for doing it though)
    The website is great..but
    You have to pay for shipping, and return shipping (and it costs $$ for wire-bead tires) and a 2-week or more wait for any warranty or exchanges..
    (I have two Resolution Pro 2Bliss 2.3 great tires)

    Most of us mortals cannot afford such luxury..

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    thanks for all the reples that was very helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by theProfessor
    Even talking with Michelin tire-tech guys, they don't recommend DH32's for anything but really steep, loose stuff... I was surprised, that's what I called to talk to them about

    They favor DH16's / Dry2's or DH24, / DH16 for hard-pack..
    I think that why the DH32 is so cheap, their use is limited, at least on the West-Coast..

    Just speculating..
    Largely personal preference. I do not like the handling of the 16 or 24 tread pattern. The 32 (on the front) works in a wide range of conditions and wears well.

    Also the Michelin race techs told me they rarely send any sponsored/semi-sponsored rider out on a tire that does not have a hand-cut modified tread for the specific conditions. Not really an option for the normal-Joe.
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