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    This poor 2003 Sherman Breakout just couldn't live up to it's name. Towards the end of our trail ride on Saturday, my buddy's Sherman decided to give up the ghost, and snapped one of it's lower castings in half. Mind you, we were just riding along, when all of a sudden......
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    oouch, must suck having a broken fork, hope M hooks you up

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    Oh that's hawt .... gonna go rub one out !
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    im sorry to hear about ur fork man. thats crazy damage
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    that sucks...
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    holly crap!

    it fully snapped eh? lol looks like the only thing holding ti together are the internals!!

    hope that doesnt happen to my Sherman Flik!!
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    very weird place for it to break...interesting to hear what manipoo is going to do-keep us posted
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    That is a weird place for it to break. Was it from a bad landing or a crash?

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    Ok there are a few things that I have to say about this incident. First, I was in Whislter last year where I proceded to exterminate a Sherman Breakouts internals. I had demolished everything, rebound, everything. So **** happens, and they fixed it. Second, look at the steeze the rider is demonstrating. Haneous. He is way the **** in the backseat, deadsailoring the **** out of himself and the jump, embarassing both the sport and himself, and the jump. It is an attempt where the bike is trying to strike back, to show its owner who is boss, to attack the owner the only way it can. The subject was completely fed up with the hideous steeze, and chose to do something about it. Tell your freind to keep riding the fork, so it can finish the job. Bummer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmac
    Ok there are a few things that I have to say about this incident. First, I was in Whislter last year where I proceded to exterminate a Sherman Breakouts internals. I had demolished everything, rebound, everything. So **** happens, and they fixed it. Second, look at the steeze the rider is demonstrating. Haneous. He is way the **** in the backseat, deadsailoring the **** out of himself and the jump, embarassing both the sport and himself, and the jump. It is an attempt where the bike is trying to strike back, to show its owner who is boss, to attack the owner the only way it can. The subject was completely fed up with the hideous steeze, and chose to do something about it. Tell your freind to keep riding the fork, so it can finish the job. Bummer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmac
    Ok there are a few things that I have to say about this incident. First, I was in Whislter last year where I proceded to exterminate a Sherman Breakouts internals. I had demolished everything, rebound, everything. So **** happens, and they fixed it. Second, look at the steeze the rider is demonstrating. Haneous. He is way the **** in the backseat, deadsailoring the **** out of himself and the jump, embarassing both the sport and himself, and the jump. It is an attempt where the bike is trying to strike back, to show its owner who is boss, to attack the owner the only way it can. The subject was completely fed up with the hideous steeze, and chose to do something about it. Tell your freind to keep riding the fork, so it can finish the job. Bummer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    This poor 2003 Sherman Breakout just couldn't live up to it's name.
    Actually it DID live up to its name. It Broke-out

    ahahhaha.....I crack myself up

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    Not a bad landing at all. In fact, the guy riding the fork doesn't do drops over about 4 feet, and he has pretty good pedal kick technique, landing rear tire first always. As you can see from the picture, he really gets that front tire up. This bike was recently sold to him from someone out of state, so my suspicion is that the fork was, perhaps, slapped around pretty hard by the previous owner, and possibly even cracked when he sold it. Who knows.

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    landing with the wheel so high up can actually be harder on a fork than nearly all other types of landing as it tends to slam down once the backwheel hits the deck

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    I think a drop that looks like this should be illegal.



    ..gemini2000 is right about the front wheel coming down harder, especially when landing at a squirrelly angle like that.!

    When doing drops to flat, you should try to hit the ground square, at this angle:

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    I disagree. If you watch any skilled trials rider, they will always land backtire first when doing pedal kick type drops, which is what you see pictured. I rarely bottom my fork when landing back tire first. It only happens when I land level.....explain that one. I think that the trick is to really keep your weight back when you land, and absorb the landing with your legs.
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    drops to flat suck. on a HT they're not that bad as you can trials the landing, but with a full squish bike you're compressing the rear first, so when you land the front you're HA is at 50deg (or whatever, stupidly slack).

    However, since you mention that the fork was bought used, I think that there is the problem, not some little 3' drop. i've beaten the living piss out of my breakout and haven't had a squeak of complaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    I disagree. If you watch any skilled trials rider, they will always land backtire first when doing pedal kick type drops, which is what you see pictured. I rarely bottom my fork when landing back tire first. It only happens when I land level.....explain that one. I think that the trick is to really keep your weight back when you land, and absorb the landing with your legs.
    yea thats what i do when i huck to flat on my hardtail. if i land backwheel first when hucking to flat on my hardtail, it even feels much smoother than landing level when i huck the same drop on my fully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSUN
    I think a drop that looks like this should be illegal.
    i think hating type posts should be illegal. why diss on somebody elses riding? my drop to flat is better than your drop to flat, look at my expert form....

    i like all the pics in this thread. they're cool. drops to flat are cool. drops to tranny are cool. riding bikes is cool. see, look at me, i'm the anti-hater, my posts are filled with so much positive energy, lol....

    everybody's got their own style. like peaty says, don't be a sheep.

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    a drop to flat that size won't do anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by cornholio
    i think hating type posts should be illegal. why diss on somebody elses riding? my drop to flat is better than your drop to flat, look at my expert form....
    . drops to flat are cool. drops to tranny are cool. riding bikes is cool. see, look at me, i'm the anti-hater, my posts are filled with so much positive energy, lol....

    everybody's got their own style. like peaty says, don't be a sheep.
    I like landing front tire first............. but I hit my head a lot
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    bar humping dorps to flatzor rules. it's all aboot pedal kicking teh duely. My brother owns this technique.
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    Yeah I land rear tire first on twelve to fifteen foot drops and that doesn't bottom out my 150mm DJ II. you should land rear tire first only slightly though otherwise you can come smacking down on the front end with a lot of weight. Landing front tire first will just bottom your sh*t out and make you smash onto your stem, flip over and slide on your face like the kid behind me did on a twelve thirteen footer.

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    for some reason i get a nice kick out of the guys facial expression in the very 1st picture. Id like to make it my avatar but i like mine better
    im all about midget drops

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    I drop to flat alot on my HT. i like touching the front tire o-so-slightly before the rear one touches down, kinda like scooping ice cream but much more subtle. the front doesn't compress all the way, and the rear doesn't complain nearly so much. Plus, it's super smooth if i get it right.

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    Well LycraFR took the fork to the LBS today, and they called Manitou. Manitou is going to warranty the lowers, and are shipping them out this week, free of charge!

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    Those are the first broken Sherman lowers I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini2000
    landing with the wheel so high up can actually be harder on a fork than nearly all other types of landing as it tends to slam down once the backwheel hits the deck
    agreed.

    unless you have mad trials skills and can land the front softly, but most riders can't.

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    depending on how you land can make all the difference. if you lean forward with the rear coming down, you could easly slam down the front along wiht your weight. if you lean back before your your front lands then you should be fine.

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    When doing drops to flat, you should try to hit the ground square, at this angle:[/QUOTE]

    Drops to flat should be illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy jibber
    When doing drops to flat, you should try to hit the ground square, at this angle:
    Drops to flat should be illegal.[/QUOTE]
    holy $hit. i think i just saw a ghost

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    dorps to fart is teh hawt sausage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmac
    .......look at the steeze the rider is demonstrating. Haneous. He is way the **** in the backseat, deadsailoring the **** out of himself and the jump, embarassing both the sport and himself, and the jump. It is an attempt where the bike is trying to strike back, to show its owner who is boss, to attack the owner the only way it can. The subject was completely fed up with the hideous steeze, and chose to do something about it.......
    those are the exact words rolling around in my head when i first saw the second picture......

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    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker.
    those are the exact words rolling around in my head when i first saw the second picture......
    i don't know, judging by his facial expression, he looks pretty relaxed to me, not tense at all. not dead sailor either, more like a steezed out table top turnedupturndown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sriracha
    .........steezed out table top
    turnedupturndown.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA too funny
    i want to post more but i can't stop riding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSUN
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA too funny
    sherman shoxxx aren't designed for Xtreme jumping and/or gnarling. terrible shocking characteristics. for gnarling of this xtreme magnitude and shocking, you want a setup more like this:
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    ......
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    Landed Back Tire First - Didn't help!

    Quote Originally Posted by freerider167
    depending on how you land can make all the difference. if you lean forward with the rear coming down, you could easly slam down the front along wiht your weight. if you lean back before your your front lands then you should be fine.
    Here is a pic from my last drop after reading this post and trying the back tire first method. Wow, what a trip!

    OK, SERIOUSLY, DON'T try this at home! Land with both tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuntavi
    ..... Land with both tires.
    yeah doug, you totally had that right up until the end. kids, tell all your friends, always match the tranny when you land.....


    the main reason you shouldn't land rear wheel first (especially on a dually) is this... your bike already most likely has a slack headtube angle, when you land on your rear wheel you compress your suspension making your headttube angle really slack by the time your front wheel touches the ground. then when your front wheel comes down and your weight comes down on top of that, you are putting a tremendous force on your headtube and fork with a ridiculoiusly slack angle at that point. that kind of force starts to take it's prisoners really fast..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuntavi
    Here is a pic from my last drop after reading this post and trying the back tire first method. Wow, what a trip!

    OK, SERIOUSLY, DON'T try this at home! Land with both tires.
    it all depends and that was flat to flat and the pic shows drop to transition, in that case you try to keep parrallel with the landing.

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    and dropping to flat can cause your headtube to ovalize or crack around the headtube. Land even with your tranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertYota
    and dropping to flat can cause your headtube to ovalize or crack around the headtube. Land even with your tranny.
    doesn't it cause more stress on the bike of you land it with low momentom? example, is going on a 4 foot drop at 5 mph to flat more stressfull on your bike compared to going 10mph off that same drop

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    Landing back wheel first to flat can cause severe bruising of your ovaries....thats why trek named that bike the bruiser!
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    This thread rules. I think I should subscribe just to keep tabs on the flack this guy is getting

    Gotta say that grimassed/crooked dead sailor is priceless. Probably dished out more stress on that landing than a 15' to tranny.

    Congrats on the warranty hook up. Very odd place to break, probably a bad set of lowers out of the gate.

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