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    Hello!

    This is Juli Furtado and i need some help.....

    I am conducting a little research project and need your input about resort bike parks. Do you have a favorite? If so, what's the name of the resort? Where is the resort? Why do you like it?

    Any input from ya'll would be HUGELY appreciated

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    THE Juli Furtado??
    Wow, i'm talking to a celebrity!!! Well, not quite talking but typing, in my head it feels like i'm talking, although my head does seem to do some funny things, ...... *ahem*, sorry!! I started rambling there, got a bit nervous!
    I don't really have any sort of useful input to this thread but i thought i'd just say hi and stuff! So hi Juls, happy to meet you and welcome to the forum!!
    Hopefully this reply might bump this thread into action. I can't believe no one else has answered your request, i know that heaps of dudes here frequent mtb parks in the States.
    Anyway, take care and good luck!
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    Not to be a d!ck, but who is Juli Furtado??
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    Not to be a d!ck, but who is Juli Furtado??

    Kids!!

    Her career cycling achievements are:

    ·1996 U.S. Olympic team member
    ·1996 World cup overall , 3rd
    ·1995 & 3-time Crosscountry World Cup Champion
    ·1995 & 5-time Crosscountry National Champion
    ·1994 America’s Crosscountry Champion
    ·1992 & 2-time Crosscountry World Cup runner-up
    ·1992 Downhill World Champion
    ·1989 National Road Champion
    ·7-time World’s team member

    Juliana was a member of the U.S. National Ski Team from 1980-1987. (I think it was knee injuries that stopped her skiing and resulted in her taking up mtbing, correct me if i'm wrong)
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    Not to be a d!ck, but who is Juli Furtado??
    she is a person who mountain bikes really well.
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    Oh a good mountain biker... welcome then!

    I was thinking it was that weird singer's sister or something
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    I preffer places like whistler. Some smoother trails are appreciated. As far as I can tell, the saftey and ttrail work there are without rival.

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    Northstar. Cali. Lots of rocks and "natural" terrain.

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    Northstar is awsome, the natural terrain is hard to duplicate and the rocky terrain pound ones arms. They don't need large jumps because the rocks work by themselves. I think the insurance peopl think the rocks safer than large fifty foot doubles.

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    nice accomplishments Juli.

    Anyway everything gets compared to Whistler....Whistler is the best

    After that I love the speed runs of Keystone (Colorado)...Vail has nice stuff to but i didn't like walking my bike or going slow on fireroads. Northstar and Mammoth (good technical riding) in california.
    and i really like the dual mountain approach of Snoeshoe in west virginia....Big bear, Ca. (no longer DH bikes but XC they are cool with) didn't do anything to update the trails...I really didn't think that place was challenging enough
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    i started MTBing in 92 and used to read lots of race report stuff with Juli in podium spots.

    i have only ridden one ski resort in summer. i went up and rode big bear mt. in california one weekend. getting the lift to the top was cool, but my 40mm travel fork on a HT was just not the right tool to get back down. the worst part, the part that really stuck in my mind was what seemed like hours of washboard that rattled my whole body till i felt like my teeth would fall out and my arms would fall off.

    i swore that i would never ride another ski resort. i think that i would probably enjoy riding one now though. i now have a bike that is well suited to riding that kind of terrian.

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    Bootleg

    I'm too poor to make it whistler, so I'll take Bootleg and if I'm lucky I win enough back at the slots/casinos to pay for my trip...now if I'm lucky at the slots/casinos I can almost fill my tank to get home.

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    Hey Juli,

    Over the past 2 years I've ridden (mostly racing DH) at Big Bear, Northstar at Tahoe, Mammoth, Durango, Bootleg Canyon, Park City, Brian Head, Aspen (Snowmass), Snowshoe (WV), Plattekill (NY), and Diablo Freeride Park (Mountain Creek Resort, NJ).

    My favorite West Coast location would be Brian Head because of the great dirt, the trees, and the interesting terrain. There are places to stay very close to the resort, and the staff was very friendly and helpful.

    My favorite place anywhere would be Diablo in NJ because of the interesting terrain, the trees, the variety, number, and condition of the trails (read: well groomed).

    Things I look for in a resort or mtn bike park:
    1. Accessability - how far do I have to drive from a major metropolitain area to get there? Snowshoe was great, but it's so hard to get to!

    2. Available Trails - is there enough to challenge me without trying to kill me? Will I ride the same trails over and over or are there a number of different trails? Is there a lot to see that is not just 9'-drop-with-no-go-around-insane? Are there ladders and wooden bridges? Are the small-med-large drops with good transitions so I can "work up to" the 5-footer or go beyond if I so choose?

    3. Terrain - is it wide-open-screamin-down-the-hill, or is there some tight-technical-negociate-the-tree-and-root secion? I like a variety, but prefer the technical challenge.

    4. Lift access, Restrooms, Food - a speedy lift, clean restrooms, and access to food are little details that make the trip a little sweeter.

    Hope this is what you're looking for.

    -sunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    Not to be a d!ck, but who is Juli Furtado??
    The name they biked her after.

    http://www.santacruzmtb.com/juliana/

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    Hey Juliana, i think if you edited the title of this thread to 'Fully sick Gnarcore MTB parks' or something else similarly rad, then maybe you'd get more peeps taking a look and answering your questions!
    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyracegirl
    Hey Juli,

    Over the past 2 years I've ridden (mostly racing DH) at Big Bear, Northstar at Tahoe, Mammoth, Durango, Bootleg Canyon, Park City, Brian Head, Aspen (Snowmass), Snowshoe (WV), Plattekill (NY), and Diablo Freeride Park (Mountain Creek Resort, NJ).

    My favorite West Coast location would be Brian Head because of the great dirt, the trees, and the interesting terrain. There are places to stay very close to the resort, and the staff was very friendly and helpful.

    My favorite place anywhere would be Diablo in NJ because of the interesting terrain, the trees, the variety, number, and condition of the trails (read: well groomed).

    Things I look for in a resort or mtn bike park:
    1. Accessability - how far do I have to drive from a major metropolitain area to get there? Snowshoe was great, but it's so hard to get to!

    2. Available Trails - is there enough to challenge me without trying to kill me? Will I ride the same trails over and over or are there a number of different trails? Is there a lot to see that is not just 9'-drop-with-no-go-around-insane? Are there ladders and wooden bridges? Are the small-med-large drops with good transitions so I can "work up to" the 5-footer or go beyond if I so choose?

    3. Terrain - is it wide-open-screamin-down-the-hill, or is there some tight-technical-negociate-the-tree-and-root secion? I like a variety, but prefer the technical challenge.

    4. Lift access, Restrooms, Food - a speedy lift, clean restrooms, and access to food are little details that make the trip a little sweeter.

    Hope this is what you're looking for.

    -sunny
    thanks!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juliana
    Hello!

    This is Juli Furtado and i need some help.....

    I am conducting a little research project and need your input about resort bike parks. Do you have a favorite? If so, what's the name of the resort? Where is the resort? Why do you like it?

    Any input from ya'll would be HUGELY appreciated
    snowsummit, Big Bear CA, tons of trails close to LA, and by the way the people from
    Team Big Bear, knows how to organize a race,remember back in the mid 90's!!

    nice to see you still involved with the sport.

    regards

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    So is Santa Cruz thinking about sponsoring a resort?

    In the Kona/Whistler tradition? That would be interesting.

    Cheers,
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    Well I haven't ridden outside of New England but my favorite here is Killington VT. What I'd love to ride is fast, flowing, twisty trails with some good air sprinkled in every now and then. I have a hard time with the vertical rock/root gardens so common around here. And when I cough up my hard earned cash for a lift to the top, take me all the way up not 1/2 or 2/3 of the way. I don't want to find myself peddeling/pushing my bike uphill on parts of most of the trails, it's called DOWN HILL for a reason, I'm more than happy to tackle a good climb on my 25# xc rig on local trails that I can ride for free any time I want but I aint happy slugging my 45# bike uphill after driving 2 hours and paying $40 for a lift ticket.

    Wow I sound angry don't I? It's been a tough week, but it's Friday and the vodka is flowing so I should be fine in a little while.

    Thanks Juli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juliana
    Hello!

    This is Juli Furtado and i need some help.....

    I am conducting a little research project and need your input about resort bike parks. Do you have a favorite? If so, what's the name of the resort? Where is the resort? Why do you like it?

    Any input from ya'll would be HUGELY appreciated
    I hope its for a mountain in the US and west coast, unfortunately there a bunch of wussys' and won't put any decent stunts in it. US sucks. Go to canada and get some real riding in. Northstar sucks its a friggen dust bowl, might as well go in your backyard and eat dirt. Ride a week in North Van and you pretty much want to hang up the bike riding anywhere else.

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    Hey hey, Whistler pretty much kills it. If you've been there, you know, otherwise you've heard from everyone else.
    Why do they kill it?
    Because they are totally committed to creating an incredible place to ride bikes. All kinds of trails, really good use of natural terrain, the machine built jump trails, jump and drop parks, low bridges, high bridges; everything geared towards progression.
    I've ridden a lot of the western US "bike parks", and for the most part they all seem like some sort of afterthought. The ownership runs one lift in the summer, more for sighseeing tourists than anything, and they happen to allow you to take bikes up, and there are a few ok traditional DH trails cut in, and maybe if you are lucky some tiny little bridges and a mini teeter totter at the bottom. With those mini stunts its more fun to watch the XC guys wobble around on them with the seats up high than to ride a big bike on yourself.

    I haven't been to Northstar in years but they sound a little different these days, however theres rumor that may change.
    Mammoth has an ok bike park and level of committment, but they are limited by their soil. They have to import dirt to make any kind of booters that last, but their DH trails and freeride zones are pretty fun.

    Deer Valley is the perfect example of what I mentioned above. Fun, buff trails with a few good DH course type trails, but a super slow lift that takes forever and one bike at a time. The crew there wants to build up more stuff but they are completely limited by management who probably can't even do math if its under 6 figures. Summer is monster-house-construction season in Deer Valley and most mountain towns for that matter.

    Keystone is pretty fun, the runs are really long and theres a good bit of variety but for the most part its all natural stuff...with the pitch and length of that mountain there is soo much potential. Theres a few bridge things, a few fun little booters, but nothing that touches A-Line or Dirt Merchant..those are the Whistler machine-built jump trails to which every jump jump trail on every bike park will be compared.

    I haven't ridden Vail yet, but I've heard its more or less comparable to Keystone.

    I almost forgot about Angel Fire...that place is cool, but its so far out of the way. With the jumps left over from the World Cup it should be a fun place to go next summer. Its always a favorite on the race circuit, the courses are a blast.

    For like 3 years theres been rumors of one Colorado resort or another thats "really gonna step it up thi summer" but nothing ever pans out.

    Diablo is on it. I haven't ridden there but they are on the right track. Somewhere in

    Colorado needs to do it....centrally located, huge cycling population, and good dirt. Make it happen Juliana, pleeez!
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    I'm always at Diablo Freeride Park (NJ). Hit Plattekill (NY) once and will probably be there the first weekend of November. Awesome stuff there it's just a bit of a drive for me for one day of riding.
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    a good smaller bike park

    in new england is jimminy peak in north adams, mass. High speed quad lift, great tech trails with some stunts and natural terrain incorporated. Somehow, its fun everytime, and good brew in the pub!
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    Northstar and Mammoth for me. They are my "local" mountains. Alot of people can't deal with the loose, dry, dusty and ROCKY conditions, but that's 90% of the attraction for me.

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    Thats what I like

    I live close to Brian Head so I will comment on it. What I love about Brian Head are the trails that you can shuttle and ride for 12 miles downhill. The park and a couple of shops run shuttle services and then if you shuttle with the park's outfit they throw in lift tickets. Then you can shuttle, do some lifts, shuttle, etc. Ride all day and never cover the same tracks twice. The trails are incredible and there are a lot of them. The Forest Service has a lot to do with the trails but BH works hard to keep their trails and bikers happy.

    To sum it up, great trails, lots of downhill, good prices, close to places to stay and eat and good service.

    Brian Head could use some nicer soil on their lift areas, it is real rocky. They could also expand their stunts.

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuntavi
    I live close to Brian Head so I will comment on it. What I love about Brian Head are the trails that you can shuttle and ride for 12 miles downhill. The park and a couple of shops run shuttle services and then if you shuttle with the park's outfit they throw in lift tickets. Then you can shuttle, do some lifts, shuttle, etc. Ride all day and never cover the same tracks twice. The trails are incredible and there are a lot of them. The Forest Service has a lot to do with the trails but BH works hard to keep their trails and bikers happy.

    To sum it up, great trails, lots of downhill, good prices, close to places to stay and eat and good service.

    Brian Head could use some nicer soil on their lift areas, it is real rocky. They could also expand their stunts.

    Good Luck

    Do the trails have jumps and drops and rockgardens.....what type of trails do they have...when does it close for the year
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    Without question the current standard is Whistler. Other places have their local niche but the professionalism of the bike park management is more obvious there than I think at any mountain in America. Daily trail maintenence, constant expansion and a very broad range of terrain variety are what bring more out of towners to that place than anywhere in North America. I live 2 miles from northstar and 2.5 hours north of Mammoth and Whistler makes those operations look like child's play.
    STRAVA: Enabling dorks everywhere to get trails shut down........ all for the sake of a race on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    Do the trails have jumps and drops and rockgardens.....what type of trails do they have...when does it close for the year
    There are quite a few jumps if you go fast and "work" the trails. But I'd say there are only a few jumps that were created by the park. There's a lot of smooth stuff....but there is also a lot of super rocky/technical terrain also. It closes in the beginning of october I think...

    I know "photomom" has some pictures of brianhead and also here: http://www.chrisdetrick.com/brianhead

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuky
    In the Kona/Whistler tradition? That would be interesting.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by juliana
    Hello!

    This is Juli Furtado and i need some help.....

    I am conducting a little research project and need your input about resort bike parks. Do you have a favorite? If so, what's the name of the resort? Where is the resort? Why do you like it?

    Any input from ya'll would be HUGELY appreciated
    Locally, Silver mountain (Kellogg, ID) is up and coming. They're trying hard and doing a great job.

    I'm also hoping Red mtn in Rossland BC will step it up. Their trail riding in that area is phenomenal.

    But really, Whistler is the best. The trails are AMAZING.

    Juli, my wife just finished a camp in Rossland w/Cindy Devine and had a blast.....so much fun she wants a full suss bike now and is planning on a Juliana SL! The ladies were also talking about how they'd like the opportunity to ride with you too.
    Taking it easy for all you sinners.

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    I've ridden Northstar, Brian Head, Bootleg (25 minutes from home), Vail, Park City & Sundance.

    My person ranking:
    1. Brianhead -- great trails in the vicinity & Georg's is one of the most best & helpful shop/ shuttle services around.
    2. Bootleg is great for a municipal trail system.
    3. Vail
    4. Park City
    5. Sundance
    6. Northstar

    Utah & Colorado soils seem to be pretty great all summer. Tahoe gets really dry in the summer (and I'm not a freerider) which is why Northstar didn't rate high on my list. Bootleg is great in Late Fall, all Winter and early Spring.

    mbb

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    Quote Originally Posted by jubilee
    Locally, Silver mountain (Kellogg, ID) is up and coming. They're trying hard and doing a great job.

    I'm also hoping Red mtn in Rossland BC will step it up. Their trail riding in that area is phenomenal.

    But really, Whistler is the best. The trails are AMAZING.

    Juli, my wife just finished a camp in Rossland w/Cindy Devine and had a blast.....so much fun she wants a full suss bike now and is planning on a Juliana SL! The ladies were also talking about how they'd like the opportunity to ride with you too.

    hey there,

    thanks for the input.....
    that's great your wife took a class from cindy. she's a hoot!!! glad to hear she wants to riding a juliana. happy trails to both you and her

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    Always and Forever

    You will be my mountain bike idol!
    Are you secretly Xena?
    Mammoth is a drag as far as I'm concerned. Too tame.Too predictable. Too much dust.
    GUYS!! Keep in mind this is only my opinion!
    Big Bear is almost all fireroad. *yawwwn*
    Brian Head is short but nice
    WinterPark was absolutely incredible!!! Wild. Tons of trails. Vail was nice also.
    Hey! I remember when I was racing at Big Bear. Everyone was on the course at the same time and I turned around and you were drafting me up the hill. Of course, I almost fell off my bike! Oh. What's that you say? You werent drafting? Oh, sure ok. Whatever. I coulda sworn you were drafting. Hey thanks for the legacy. You will never be forgotten!!
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    #1 Angel Fire - the most awesome pretty much natural terrain downhill. Some of the XC trail could pass for downhill.

    #2 Keystone - The blackblack diamond downhill sections are fun and challenging. The blue and green runs are lots of fun and kinda fast.

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    all abilities range of trails. So many time the beginners are relegated to fireroads, which sucks IMO.

    Brudage in McCall has built some really easy "green" singletracks. The Elk is 7 miles long, and the beauty of it is you can rip it at high speed, but it's also a trail you can take beginners, kids and trail-a-bikes on. The time we were up there, it gave our group a lot of options. Some of the less comfortable with downhill and speed types had a blast on that trail, as it was non-threatening, and they were able to work up to faster and faster.

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    Well, others have already hit on it, but Whistler defines what an MTB resort should be. It simply has it all - from trails my daughter would enjoy to those that challenge Dave Watson, with a huge variety in between. What sets Whistler apart from everywhere else is the machine-made/groomed trails. I've heard 80% of the riding at the bike park is on A-Line - an amazing statistic if accurate.

    Besides the full gamut of lift-serviced riding at the bike park, the XC riding also offers something for everyone: Mirror Lake has super buff easy singletrack, River Runs Through It offers fun tech stuff, Comfortably Numb provides a long epic. Even Grandma can have a good time cruising the paved bike paths.

    The facilities are all withing walking/biking distance. Restaurants, shops, dirt jumps, liquor store - it's all there. The Zip Trek thing looks quite cool as well.

    If there is any place that compares I'd like to know/go.

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    I would like to second Formica's suggestion that all levels be adequately represented. I know there's a baaadaaasss DH'er somewhere in me dying to come out.....she just needs to get into it gradually

    I also like the idea of having a chance to ride with well-known riders Not that I'd keep up or anything, just great to see them out and about. Like the LunaChix on the trails during the Fruita Fat Tire Fest last year. I was starstruck.

    Oh yeah, definitely access to food (Mexican and vegetarian options especially.) And plenty of excellent coffee and beer- we bikers tend to demand the best quality brews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr plow
    Kids!!

    Her career cycling achievements are:

    ·1996 U.S. Olympic team member
    ·1996 World cup overall , 3rd
    ·1995 & 3-time Crosscountry World Cup Champion
    ·1995 & 5-time Crosscountry National Champion
    ·1994 America’s Crosscountry Champion
    ·1992 & 2-time Crosscountry World Cup runner-up
    ·1992 Downhill World Champion
    ·1989 National Road Champion
    ·7-time World’s team member

    Juliana was a member of the U.S. National Ski Team from 1980-1987. (I think it was knee injuries that stopped her skiing and resulted in her taking up mtbing, correct me if i'm wrong)
    You forgot 1990 World Cross Country Champion.

    Plus her father used to do the National Anthem at New York Yankee games.

    Truly a wealth of useless information.


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    Only one I've been to

    but I keep going back. I enjoy Deer Valley in Park City UT. They have put in some stunts, and increased the DH portion but the trails I love are the G.S. and Super G. trails. (see map at www.deervalley.com ). Something about zooming along between the aspens, and pedaling, that I really love.

    Later.
    "Walter, the chinaman who peed on my rug, I can't go give him a bill!"

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    I live in Vancouver so usually ride Whistler, but another smaller BC resort that has a good park is Sun Peaks in Kamloops. Check it out if you get a chance.

    http://sunpeaksresort.com/winter/summerbiking.aspx

    I haven't had a chance to check out the new bike park on Cypress yet, but I've been hearing good things, considering it is the first year.

    http://www.cypressmountain.com/bike.html

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    Idea! thoughts

    Whiteface, NY is my favorite. It has a nice lift and great natural surfaced trails. I was hoping that someday they would build a lift to the very top. Then they could add more trails and put some big drops in.

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