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    A Season on the 2010 Trek Remedy

    Well it’s been one Season on the 2010 Trek Remedy and thought I would give you guys my thoughts. I started off with a mission to build up a true Do-It-All-Bike due to being low on funds in 2010. A lot of us saw some cuts due to the economy in 2009 and 2010. I thought it would be fun to build up this Week-In-Warrior bike. So I started off by talking to my local Trek Rep and took delivery on a 2010 Trek Remedy 7 in Feb of 2010. I choose this bike because I had a 2008 Remedy before and loved it. Once I took delivery of the bike, I knew it would need some upgrades to please my riding style and needs.



    A little about me:
    I have been racing DH/DS/4x on and off for over 13 years. I like a bike that gives some feedback from the trail. Most bikes that do this are Single Pivots as Virtual Pivots have a little more dead feel to them. I have raced on many different styles of Frame Designs over the years. I like a bike can provide a feeling between a normal Single Pivot and a Virtual Pivot. Treks ABP/Split Pivot provides that feeling. You can get good feedback from the trail without the problems you see that most Single Pivots have. You know, like pedal feedback, pedal bob, brake jack, and that hang up feeling when your floating through rock gardens. Most Virtual Pivots, don’t provide good feedback from the trail due to the way the track the trail. Now that is not a bad thing!!! I am just saying for me, I like that feeling between. Others may like the way a Single Pivot feels or a Virtual Pivot feels.



    On to the bike build:
    As I knew the stock build would not please me, I called up some of my great sponsors from the past for some help. What I was looking for was 160mm fork up front with adjustable travel to be able to handle the DH trails I like to ride here in the South. The trouble is the climb up, having a 160mm fork, makes it harder to climb the steep trails. The front tends to pull up. Well with the adjustable travel, you can drop the front down for the climb, then open the fork up for the DH runs. As for the rear suspension, Trek didn’t leave us many options with the new DVRC style Fox Rear shock. One thing I missed from my 2008 Remedy as I put a Fox DHX 5.0 coil on it and boy did it make that bike feel sick. Trek please bring back the normal shock mounts!!! Next was the drive train. I wanted set it up like I have setup most of all my bikes in the past. Single speed up front with a chain guide and 9 speed in the rear. Gearing was 32th up front and a 34/11 in the rear. The stock cranks were just you run of the mill low end mountain bike cranks. I wanted to upgrade them to something light but strong. From there the wheels were next. The All-Mt wheel set that came with the bike were just too light. I knew I was going to need something a little stronger and could fit at least a 2.35 tire for DH riding. I was happy with the stock Brakes, so I left them on. Now was the Seat and Controls. I put on a low rise wide bar with a short stem. For the seat and post the goal was to drop weight.

    The Specs:
    2011 Remedy 17.5 frame 150mm rear travel
    2011 Rock Shox Lyrik 2-Step Air 115mm -160mm travel
    2011 Fox RP3 DRVC Rear Shock
    Avid Elixir 5’s 170mm
    MRP Chamber Cranks 170mm
    MRP 32th Chain Ring
    MRP G2 Mini Chain Guide
    Answer 30” Lower Rise Bars
    Thomson 4x 50mm Stem
    Sram Chain
    X9 Rear Shifter
    X9 Rear Derailleur
    Sram 34/11 Cassette
    Thomson Seat Post
    WTB Seat
    Azonic Outlaws
    Crank Brothers Pedals
    Tires, well depends on what I am riding that day, Sizes from 2.1” to 2.35”

    Bike build weight:
    30.20lbs with All-Mt Tires
    31.5lbs with DH Tires

    Geo:
    66 HA
    22.5" TT
    45.5" WB
    13.8" BB





    Thoughts on performance:
    I have done everything from 30 mile XC rides to Race DH on this bike over the past season. I can say this is a true Do-It-All bike build. Climbing with the Lyrik dropped down to 115mm really made it easier to climb than running it in 160mm mode. The Remedy itself climbs as well as any 4” travel bike I have owned or ridden. When I was at the top of the Mt. I just dropped down the seat and opened up the Lyrik to 160mm mode. There was a lot of front in flex with the stock 150mm Fox Float 32 on it when riding DH. After putting the Lyrik on it like what came stock on the earlier models, really provided the stiffness and plushness I was looking for from the font of the bike. The lyric is butter!!! I am 175lbs and I run about 55psi at all times with the High-Speed set half way and the Low-Speed all the way open. As for the Rear Suspension well I knew I had my work cut out for me to find the setup I wanted out of a Fox RP3 DRVC. I will say I never found that!!! Trek really messed the Remedy up by building it around the DRVC rear shock. Ended up leaving 145psi in the shock. You ether had it setup to stiff and the bike didn’t track as well as I wanted or you had the setup soft and blew through the travel to get traction. Being able to put a good Coil Shock on the bike really makes it way better!!! Too bad you can without modifying the frame some. The ABP/Split Pivot really helps out with braking. With only running 150mm in the rear I am shocked you don’t feel any brake jack. No feedback when standing and dropping down on the pedals when pushing it hard on the trail. One other thing I really like about this bike is it feels like you on rails when being aggressive in the turns. Here in the South trails are tight and being able to whip it around is a most to go fast here. You can do this on this bike!!! When I hit the slopes for the few DH races I did this year I was really shocked as I got faster on my runs throughout the day the bike held up really good. Yes, It was nowhere as nice as being on a full on DH rig and I couldn’t compete at the level I wanted to from being held back to the bikes limits. Well, this wasn’t what I built the bike up for. I will say for most racers looking for a Weekend Warrior Bike build this will be plenty and you will have a smile from ear to ear doing so. It has been a great bike and I will be sad letting it go as I will be riding for a different brand this coming season, but will recommend the Trek Remedy built up this way to anyone looking for a True Do-It-All bike that is a Weekend Warrior.





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    nice review man!!

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    30lbs w/ the outlaws? i call bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp
    30lbs w/ the outlaws? i call bs.
    Call it what you want Bro. Starting with a 6.5lb frame its not that hard. I have no reason what so ever to lie or to gang style points on this site by having a light bike!! Plus for most that know me and my back ground in the Race World will vouch for that.

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    not saying that you are lying. i think your bike is bad ass.
    i just wish i could get my bike to 30 lbs with some outlaw wheels.
    just say'n im a bit jealous

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    Great review, I love my remedy 7 too.

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    I have a set of outlaw wheels I put on my fuelEX 9.9 for training and my bike is 28 lbs with them. The remedy is not much heavier.

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    Sick looking bike.
    Why won't a coil fit?
    Are the rocker links DCRV specific?

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    Great review!
    Makes me think I need a shorter travel bike...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellav8ted
    Why won't a coil fit?
    Are the rocker links DCRV specific?
    Yep, they're specific which inevitably kinda sucks in the long run


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    The DRCV Shock also uses 10mm bolts. You have to change out the bearings to 8mm and have a special bolt made to work right. It would be smart for Trek to come out with a after market kit to change it over if they plan to leave the current system like it is.

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    Bike looks great! Nice review too.

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    The daft mounting stopped me buying a bike
    **** Looking for a Sram 9.0SL rear hub *****

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    I know it's SPAM, but the bike is up for sale now:

    http://www.ridemonkey.com/classifieds/cat-2/ad-17531/

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    nice sales pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER
    I know it's SPAM, but the bike is up for sale now:

    http://www.ridemonkey.com/classifieds/cat-2/ad-17531/

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    Why you selling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek
    Why you selling?
    Have a new Sponsor for 2011. The only reason why I am getting rid of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob
    nice sales pitch.
    Really? it looks like he's putting it up at a very reasonable price to me, and having some time on the 2010/11 remedy myself, I can't disagree with anything he said. He was pretty clear on the strength and weaknesses of the bike. Overall he liked it alot. He wasn't hesitant to point out that the very thing trek has been pushing so hard (the dcrv) and putting so much time and effort behind, he doesn't think much of at all. It seemed pretty balanced and fair as far as a review went.

    I'd love to see more reviews like it on mountain bike forums and reviews.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Really? it looks like he's putting it up at a very reasonable price to me, and having some time on the 2010/11 remedy myself, I can't disagree with anything he said. He was pretty clear on the strength and weaknesses of the bike. Overall he liked it alot. He wasn't hesitant to point out that the very thing trek has been pushing so hard (the dcrv) and putting so much time and effort behind, he doesn't think much of at all. It seemed pretty balanced and fair as far as a review went.
    That is the impression I got as well
    **** Looking for a Sram 9.0SL rear hub *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp
    30lbs w/ the outlaws? i call bs.
    I don't own a Trek mountainbike, but work at a shop that sells Trek, Spec, SC, Haro, and some others. I put a Trek Scratch together recently...more FR oriented bike. This was the all-coil model with 180mm Fox Van 36 and Fox RC. It has some serious Earl wheels and tires on it...not a bunch of XC weight-weenie stuff. I was shocked to see this bike weigh 35 pounds on the scale. My Nomad with a Van 36 and and Vivid R2C with lighter wheels weighs 35 pounds. I rode with that guy this weekend, and the bike is quite impressive. If Trek can get a Scratch with the build it had on it at 35 pounds, I'm not too surprised a decent Remedy can weigh 30 pounds even with Outlaws. Tires and other components could make a big difference. I would also have called BS, but I'm seeing some of these very capable AM, FR, and DH bikes of many different brands getting their weights down to a surprising level.

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    Not saying it as a bad thing. Pretty smart actually. Write an honest review on the bike, get people to read and think about it as an option, then let the readers that it is available. Nice sale tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Really? it looks like he's putting it up at a very reasonable price to me, and having some time on the 2010/11 remedy myself, I can't disagree with anything he said. He was pretty clear on the strength and weaknesses of the bike. Overall he liked it alot. He wasn't hesitant to point out that the very thing trek has been pushing so hard (the dcrv) and putting so much time and effort behind, he doesn't think much of at all. It seemed pretty balanced and fair as far as a review went.

    I'd love to see more reviews like it on mountain bike forums and reviews.com
    Thanks man. I own www.2wheelfreaks.com and really want to do more fair reviews from not only a racers stand point, but from a riders point too. Don't get me wrong I have been sponsored by many company's over the years and don't just hype up their product because they are a sponsor. I give fair feedback to all that maybe interested in their products. I do hope when I have more time to put into the site I can grow it. The goal was to give racers a free place to go market themselves along with letting them write reviews for others to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob
    Not saying it as a bad thing. Pretty smart actually. Write an honest review on the bike, get people to read and think about it as an option, then let the readers that it is available. Nice sale tactic.
    Yes, I am a Sales and Marketing professional in real life..... I get paid to think this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER
    Yes, I am a Sales and Marketing professional in real life..... I get paid to think this way.

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    be cool and at least pay for an ad on MTBR too

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    be cool and at least pay for an ad on MTBR too
    I will and do pay for Ads on MTBR. I just haven't had time to put it up here yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER
    I will and do pay for Ads on MTBR. I just haven't had time to put it up here yet.

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    wow ...you have had 2 days

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    cut him some slack bob I've seen plenty of adds go up from him, and he's usually pretty honest about his stuff. Its great to have good riders posting up reviews of bicycles that are pretty upfront and for real and have some real ride time on the bike, not "after one week, its the best bike omg EVVVEERRR"

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    woops, double post

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