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    Please help secure more trails in the birth place of MTB. You may visit there someday

    The birth place of mtn biking is, currently, about the worst place for mtn biking. The hikers and conservationists are just nazi-like about closing any/all trails to mountainbikes. We need to organize, even a little bit, and be heard.

    Please please please please vote to open more trails and more single track in Marin/Mt. Tam.

    There's a poll here, along with the article. Please vote.
    http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_7347039

    Thanks!

    (Yes, I cross posted this to a forum or two)
    Last edited by rensho; 11-02-2007 at 04:09 PM.

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    I voted 729

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    Some people actually voted No?? What the heck?

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    I voted yes.
    Yes 68.95 %
    No 31.0%
    Vote people.
    Last edited by NAYR751; 11-03-2007 at 11:45 AM.

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    Mt.Tam is an awsome ride.
    It would be sick if it where legal
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    i voted yes

    yes - 66.88%
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    Voted: YES!
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    I voted YES

    i bet roadies voted no...

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    I obviously voted yes.

    As it is, Mt. Tam sucks. It flooded with tourists, hikers and people looking for a leisurely stroll. I don't have a problem with that, but what is a problem is that the state parks association is doing nothing to provide bikers with trails that they too can enjoy.

    The only legal biking in the actual Mt. Tam state park is Fireroads, all single tracks are illegal. Not only that, but we have to share the fireroads with hikers and tourists, who get pissed if we ride fast and kick up dust.

    Mt. Tam has so much potential its disgusting, you can shuttle 2,000 feet of vertical, but there are no good trails to ride there legally, just Tenderfoot tucked away in the lower part of Mt. Tam.
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    Vote # 1177, yes of course

    Yes 69.58%
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    Yes = 70.14%
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    .....'course I voted yes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptordude
    I obviously voted yes.

    As it is, Mt. Tam sucks. It flooded with tourists, hikers and people looking for a leisurely stroll. I don't have a problem with that, but what is a problem is that the state parks association is doing nothing to provide bikers with trails that they too can enjoy.

    The only legal biking in the actual Mt. Tam state park is Fireroads, all single tracks are illegal. Not only that, but we have to share the fireroads with hikers and tourists, who get pissed if we ride fast and kick up dust.

    Mt. Tam has so much potential its disgusting, you can shuttle 2,000 feet of vertical, but there are no good trails to ride there legally, just Tenderfoot tucked away in the lower part of Mt. Tam.
    I agree. Seems almost pointless, to even bother trying to keep it open. Too many peds, 15 mph speedlimits, and comando rangers armed with the latest hi-tech radar guns. Would be nice if there was at least one good loop for bikes only, but that'll never happen in the Bay area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motormonkeyr6
    Mt.Tam is an awesome ride.
    It would be sick if it where legal
    there are legal rides on MT. Tam, just none of them are fun .
    If you read the story, however, you'll find that they're not opening up a new trail at all, just a .6 mile connector. MTB in Marin has a long way to go (I live and ride in Marin, so I know first hand. Forget Mt. Tam, we need to legalize some singletrack int he San Geronimo Valley!)

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    It is a crime how poorly the bikers are represented. I totally agree about how much potential Marin has for great biking. I'm hoping that somewhere along the line, we will have some bike only trails to help with the rider/hiker conflict. This might lead to less congestion on hiking trails, and we all win. I know it seems like a pipedream, but starting with 1 trail would be great.

    Thanks for those Yes votes folks. I hope this will make someone in the decision making path, or media, to take a little more notice to the bicycling community and the need for more bike trails.

    It is, afterall, a lot more green.

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    Hell no, I'm never going back to Kalifornia.
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    Well that happens in Poland all the time. There is one mountain that is open only for the races(was as people got pissed off about it). Believe me it's good to be on your place. The same with many other places with europe. People I know from Bavaria tell me it's even worse in their area(envoirmentalists or sth,).

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    yes, 1343
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    Voted Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    It is a crime how poorly the bikers are represented. I totally agree about how much potential Marin has for great biking. I'm hoping that somewhere along the line, we will have some bike only trails to help with the rider/hiker conflict. This might lead to less congestion on hiking trails, and we all win. I know it seems like a pipedream, but starting with 1 trail would be great.

    Thanks for those Yes votes folks. I hope this will make someone in the decision making path, or media, to take a little more notice to the bicycling community and the need for more bike trails.

    It is, afterall, a lot more green.
    And, unlike our equestrian friends, we never **** in the middle of the trail.

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    I'm really surprised, it seems that posting this here on the forums has made a huge difference in the percentage ratio on that poll. It went from approx. 60/40 yes/no to currently about 73/27. Usually I wouldn't expect something like this to generate as much of an impact but that is an awesome result! Keep voting yes! Hopefully somebody is paying attention on the other side of this thread.

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