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    Idea! Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

    Platform Pedal Shootout!

    2018 Update for best pedal:


    • high range: Gamut Podium for class, weight, height, uniqueness, aesthetics, performance, size, desirability with roots in the SF Bay Area Point One Racing small CNC operation, 3rd generation design lineage
    • low range: Lixada Y2259B for value, comparable to any VP/HT/Wellgo ultra-thin-light-wide pedal, and an unbeatable value $24-29 shipped to your door from multiple online sources




    As a single speed rider, I prefer the simplicity and get on and ride how you come approach. The general rule when it comes to pedals is, if you cant ride with flip flops or jack purcells, your bike is a failure.

    Figured I could pop this in any category like singlespeed or 29er but downhill freeride riders are the most renown for rocking platform pedals in even the most intense, dangerous gravity induced situations successfully.

    While weight is often shaved and marketed in connection points on the bike (saddle, handlebar, pedals), these are the most important to me to feel solid to the rider. Saving weight elsewhere is a better move 'cause the solid feel equals confidence.

    I reviewed four foundational pedals. While all superb pedals, I found the winner of these four - the Sunline V-One platform pedal.



    Atomlab Trailking: an innovative design that has been copied by everyone, the 17mm thin crowd got its inspiration from this pedal. Sweet looks, my favorite in the looks department, CNC machined minimal with a fantastic shape and really looks tits mounted to a single speed and is thinnest body of the lot. Due to DU bushings (which are the least desirable), it develops play quite easily, so have a stash of DU bushings for replacements and the problem is solved. Atomlab is good about providing these replacements and they're fast, simple to replace with an allen key. The performance is least of the lot due to pin placement, flat body, and DU bushings - my foot has slipped jumping off street curbs! Studs did rip a number of holes and lines into my shins causing permanent scarring and for the lackluster amount of grip they provide, wasn't worth it. The newer Pimp and Pimplite mag pedals have resolved the DU bushing issue with sealed bearings while staying with a similar shape. 540g pair, $100

    Easton Flatboy: a design that is over ten years old! Classic, beefy, concave and grippy. Comes in only ano black, matches your Easton cockpit. A bit boring as the design hasn't changed for decade - meaning the pedal works well! 572g pair, $75

    Syncros Mental Stainless Steel: the rawest of the bunch, made of stainless steel versus aluminum like the others. Also like the fact that you dont see rebrands of this pedal 'cause they're so ugly, no one is going to copy them. Random non-bike people will ask you about the pedals. A whopping weight penalty, almost double that of the other pedals, but it's easily justified as these just are the last to break from any ravishing hit or scrape. I treat them badly and they look identical to new. I really like the way these spin and the heaviness works by providing a solid connection to the bike. Lifetime warranty on the bodies to prove it! 800g pair, $80

    Sunline V-One: Solved the problems of the Atomlab Trailkings by using loaded sealed bearings, concave body, and added the machined pyramids from the Brooklyn Machine Works Veggie Burgers and notorious Shin Burger pedals. When the stud screws are installed on top of the pyramids, your foot is not slipping, at all. Best grip of the lot. Anodized gunmetal blue titanium to match the Sunline V-One cockpit. Also very close to the Hope Tech X2 Pro Mini carbon fiber edition anodization. 580g pair, $120

    MTBR reviews 5 stars for the V-One's: https://content.mtbr.com/cat/drivetr...92_135crx.aspx



    This shootout comparison test is missing some serious talent, help me fill that in, MTBR members!



    Shimano DX, Straitline, Burgtec Penthouse, Odyssey Trailmix, DMR V12, NYC Freeride Glory Hole...



    Brooklyn Machine Works (CNC) Veggie Burger: Brooklyn Machine Works Veggie Burgers Pedal user reviews : 5 out of 5 - 26 reviews - mtbr.com

    Canfield Brothers Crampon: Canfield Crampons 6 month review = they are solid- Mtbr.com

    Point One Racing Podium: Point One Racing Podium Pedals short review- Mtbr.com



    Answer Rove FR, Nukeproof Proton, Deity Decoy and the lot of re-branded HT Components (Taiwan) pedals. Hey, if you can get the HT originals for fifty bones with titanium spindles at under 300g, who's to say?...



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    The Atomlab Trailkings aren't flat, they are concave. I agree with the lack of traction possibility...which is why I sold them NIB for the Atomlab Aircorp that has more pins, and the same profile/concave body.

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    Until you get the straitline pedals into this review, sorry, no good

    Nah seriously, include the strait's, IMO best flat pedal you can get, also for bang for you buck, cant go past Kona Wah Wah's

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    NickM2R: bring it on! Where's the review at for the Straitlines?

    And with the Kona Wah Wah's, they're generic, nothing against Kona, I saw Kona pedals bite Atomlabs design, see above picture of the HT pedals, they make the Kona's, the Deity, the Nukeproof, the NC-17, the...you name it.
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    theres a bunch of good pedals missing but good review so far.

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    The 420's on my SXT that were only $59 bux
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    pedals are one of those things that, in my opinion, there are so many GOOD choices, and everyone has their personal preference, that its almost impossible to get a unbiased straight review.

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    I haven't ever liked any of the atomlabs i have owned.

    The aircorps blew up on the trail. The pedal and bushing went flying into the bushes. We had to try to zip tie the pedal to the axle which was still left in the crank arm.

    The trailkings lack pins and they get a lot of play in them. They are also pretty heavy

    my favorites

    Canfield crampons - here is my review of them http://mtbgeartech.com/blog/canfield...-pedals-review

    Corsair - but who knows if they will still make them since atomlab bought them out. im not sure if they actually ever were released. I just happened to know a guy who knew a guy.....

    Deity decoys - best pedals for the money, lightish and good traction.

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    Throw the wellgo MG-1s in there

    375 grams,

    Super bite,

    1 season per set ( i ride a ton), @ 40 a pair, they are replaceable (like any pedal)

    Best light weight pedal of the entire market, I have years with the model ask anyone!
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    So far I like my atomlab pimplites. Large smooth and light. Straightlines are slightly overpriced in my opinon but super durable and easy to work on. I've taken apart a couple of sets, cleaned them and thrown on some lube, going good as new.
    I will say though, come may, I'm getting a set of diety's. Decoy 2.0 and the LT will both be coming out.
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    I am all about Canfield Crampons...Pedals are beyond amazing...very thin and 18 pins, better then clipless!

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    3. Shimano DX (long pins)
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    kona wah wah... $80.

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    Shimano DX combo of long and short pins, expensive but very strong / durable.

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    I have used a few pedals and ride some very knarly rockgardens and pedals take
    a beating. So far none beat the Straitline pedals.

    Pedals used are
    Straitline...great grip and very durable, can't ask for more

    50/50xx....so far the worst made pedal i have used...lasted 1 day
    and once fixed lasted 3 days...gave them to my 10 year old to use

    Kona Jackshit.....Not bad for a cheaper pedal. They slipped a bit but lasted.

    BMW Shinburgers....Grippy as long as it wasn't muddy out...but very heavy


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    i used to buy mg1's every like 6 months because they were so cheap, but after finally breaking down and buying the point1's i can tell you that i will never go back. you instantly feel so much more stable on the bike. it's weird. never thought I would make that much of a difference, but it did. they have my vote

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    Ridden BMW's Shinburgers, Wellgo's, etc etc etc.

    The pedal on all my bikes is the Sunline V1. Paired with 5.10's there is no need for anything grippier.

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    does anyone know where I can get a pair of the HT pedals? I found other models but no the one in the pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB_prodigy
    does anyone know where I can get a pair of the HT pedals? I found other models but no the one in the pic.
    http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/h...edal-355-p.asp
    From the UK but shipping is not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishboy67
    http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/h...edal-355-p.asp
    From the UK but shipping is not too bad.


    Thanks for the link but thats not the one. Im lookin for the one in the picture, the one thats the same as the superstars and the deitys. I tried buying the superstars but they dont ship to the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    NickM2R: bring it on! Where's the review at for the Straitlines?

    And with the Kona Wah Wah's, they're generic, nothing against Kona, I saw Kona pedals bite Atomlabs design, see above picture of the HT pedals, they make the Kona's, the Deity, the Nukeproof, the NC-17, the...you name it.
    Wrong. Look at the pins. The nice thing that sets the Konas (and now the newer Aircorps) appart is it isnt a little pin for traction, it is a hex bolt with a head that comes all the way through the pedal. This way the pin will bend but wont rip out taking the threads with is like on any pedal where the pins dont go all the way through. Bent pin can be cut then the rest of the bolt and head backed out... threads are ready for a new bolt. With those silly grub screw things (Deity, HT, Superstar, Nukeproof, older Aircorps, MG-1s) a good whack rips them out, leaving the threads trashed and you with one less place to put a pin. Its the little details that make the difference and this is the one triat I would never sacrifice with pedals. Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB_prodigy
    Thanks for the link but thats not the one. Im lookin for the one in the picture, the one thats the same as the superstars and the deitys. I tried buying the superstars but they dont ship to the U.S.
    http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/pedals-82-c.asp
    clicked the pedals link on the side
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    I guess I'm too old. I still use DMR V12 Mags.

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    I've only had about 3 rides on my new answer rove pedals, but so far I've got nothing bad to say about them. The way I look at it is if I can have a ride and not notice my (insert bike part here) then its doing its job. Plus I run 5.10 shoes and they make just about any platform pedal have great grip. The CrankBros 5050xx I was running last year seemed to have too much grip with my 5.10s and couldnt move my foot at all, and the 5050s where crap!
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    I am thrilled with my Point One Podium pedals.

    They are wider that any other pedals I have used, thinner, lighter, more grip, etc. I really like that they are flush with the crank arms.

    I have been using them for 3 months now and I am VERY happy with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshed
    I am thrilled with my Point One Podium pedals.
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    I have been using them for 3 months now and I am VERY happy with them.
    +1

    I got some longer pegs to test also but havent felt the needcto install yet.

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    second on Wellgo mg-1

    had an old set and loved em. bought new this year- even better. light, cheap, grippy.
    w/ my 5.10's best combo yet.
    have ridden kona's- good and sim to wellgo. stayed away from 50/50 due to reviews.

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    the Kore ELITE PLATFORM's stick to my Vans like velcro...

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    Nice review

    But without the Penthouse especially the new MK111s its not complete!

    Over 250g of the original which is awesome and a 3yr warranty yep 3 years no BS.

    500gr for steel axle and 460 for Ti eek..

    22mm thick profile much lower than my MK 2s which would be nice but I aint complaining, this review is not complete e.g does not compute. e.g not rarking on the reviewer or review top stuff hard to review all lol be nice huh!

    I love my PH Burtec's they just rock, DXs are strong for what they offer too, do like those Point ones but I'm sticking to the Penthouse, with a name like that why change right

    Flats Ive owned.

    CB 50/50 - Xs liked em at the time for a short time they crapped out easily but did like the profile at the time combined with my 5:10s any other shoe don;t think they'd cut it.

    DMR V12s awesome, great bearings, for me though the platform for me was too small, I have wide big feet, i jst fit the 5;10 biggest shoe lol.

    Shimano DXs again almost too small but have loved this pedal, like others have said combo of small and long pins depending on what suits u is a good combo!

    Kona Jackshits, I actually loved these pedals maybe why I love the Penthouse so much, big burly and took the hits for me, while I had em they were top, heavy but loved em for DH, just love the size of the platform one of the best feature of the Burgtec.

    Atom Lab Aircorps for me **** house, the DUs crapped out early, fell apart at the time my girlfriend at the time was riding I didn't believe her lol, for the price of these things biggest disappointment sold em with the newer system felt much more secure but these put me off very low profile pedals, just did not feel secure like the reviewer above said pedals should be solid I def rate that first before pins shape etc.

    Easton Flatboys also a great pedal but as said dam heavy, but seemed durable to I lent them to another chick and never saw her or the pedals again lol, a re curring them with chicks and pedals and gloves no one gets em now but me, some people think borrowing is a gift lol..

    But I'm solid on my PHs now not sure who will go first me or them
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    Burgtec Penthouse MK3 - middle ground with pretty looks?

    @trailadvent: nice, welcome input.Burgtec MK3 Penthouse's at 22mm thick vs 17mm new standard thickness and mid-weight (around Pimp Lite 500 +/-) makes the pedal overpriced (a pro) and overbuilt (another pro) but I think from the competition, there are better choices (yet another pro).

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    Now in their third design, the enormous-bodied Penthouse Flats pedals are better than ever. With 250g shaved off the previous model, still weigh 550g with steel axles, a 100mm square platform machined from 204 2TG aluminium, dual sealed bearings, and a three-year warranty on both axle and body.
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    I am planning on using pedals like above on my new mtb until I get familiar with riding again. Then plan to try clipless.. What is best for under $80?

    Do I need to have shin guards for some of these? Looks painful if I were to slip.......

    I would spend $200 on pedals if I thought I would keep them and not switch.

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    Spend ~$100 on pedals AND ~$100 on Five Tenīs... thatīs better than a $200 pedals and regular shoes. Same as clipless, is wise to spend on both a good pair of flats AND a good pair of shoes to go with.
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    I have a pair of Shimano mtb shoes to wear. I also have a set of Shimano M540's. I just want to get used to the bike first.

    I will probably upgrade shoes and clipless pedals when ready. My new bike came with a cheap clipless pedal and I want a decent flat pedal to use until ready.....

    Does anybody like the platform pedals with clipless also.. IE http://cgi.ebay.com/Crank-Brothers-M...item3efedb08b5
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    Nice review
    But without the Penthouse especially the new MK111s its not complete!

    ...I love my PH Burtec's they just rock, DXs are strong for what they offer too, do like those Point ones but I'm sticking to the Penthouse, with a name like that why change right
    +1 Been riding the Podiums for a few months and love them. Recently got a set of the Burgtec PHIII and WOW--these things are S-O-L-I-D. Ended up putting the Podiums on my trail bike (Nomad) and the Penthouse Flats on the new Delirium. Very happy thus far.

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    Platform Pedals: Brooklyn Machine Works Veggieburger

    Rockin' the Veggieburgers from BMW Pharrell's interest in Brooklyn Machine Works.

    Actually LIGHTER than the Stainless Steel Syncros Mental Pedals which have the title of MOST DURABLE and HEAVIEST pedals to exist!!! Even after heavy mileage, the mentals look and perform new.



    Did they get lazy? I don't see the inside of the pedals left in raw. The whole pedal is anodized now.
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    Blackspire and Dark Cycles

    Something that has not been mentioned yet - Blackspire or Dark Cycles.

    http://www.blackspire.com/qs/category/83/5952/0/0

    I have a pair of the Sub-4's. So far so good, Great traction, but not over the top. 350grams for 100.00. Pins are Thru bolt design. They are made in Canada as well


    http://www.darkcycles.com/

    I also have a pair of Dark Cycles Arachnids. Super Gripy and tough. But they have the classic set-screw pins. As well they have quite the unique look. Another made in Canada choice. 145.00 for 444grams.

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    OP: Where on earth are you finding Syncros stainless Mentals for $80/pair? Please hook me up w/ a link, thanx!

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    I just have some wellgo v12 copies I bought from crc for less than $30. amazing price considering what you get

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    mykel: Cool update, thanks! Blackspire's product range sucks, but their pedals are series 3 and 4 pedals are AWESOME! The weights are spectacular especially since they're designed as DH gravity pedals, made in Canada is pretty cool, too. The Dark Cycles Arachnids are unique but I can see them conflicting with a number of bike build fashions.

    From Blackspire official HQ:
    270g!!!

    Pau11y: Since you asked, you can find them floating on ebay occasionally. Take a look at 260671867301, auction was around 15 bucks+shipping last time I checked.
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    Looking to ordering a set of the Blackspire Sub4 tomorrow..

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    these > anything posted here


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    the nuke proof pedals and the ht pedals are the same. ht makes the pedals for nuke proof. if they have ht on it they are way cheaper.

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    Only by 6 paper clips less weight compared to the Blackspire Sub3... Err.. The Twenty6 Prerunner..

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    No one mentioned these yet...

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    Azonic 420

    Extruded body
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    Weight: 430g with pins (pair)

    I bought these last year, mostly because I had good luck with their A-Frame pedal, so I thought I would give these a try ( and they match my Outlaw rims ). I'm impressed. The bearings spin smooth as the day I installed them. No play, no slip, nice wide platform pedal and they take a ton of abuse. And only $75 on Pricepoint currently.

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    i vote point 1 podiums - the guys are great, they are a little expensive but you get what you pay for, i ran mine all summer and they held up great, low profile, great pin placement, with 510s i didnt see a need for the longer pins, they look dope, they feel BIG because of the size of the platform which is nice on my size 12 feet - i could not be more stoked on a flat pedal...

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    Pretty machined anodized pedals look killer, but personally I'd rather spend the money elsewhere. Shadow Conspiracy Ravagers work for me. Thinner than most other plastic platforms, light, and after 100+ miles holding up just fine. Granted not as super-sticky as metal pins, but more shin-friendly, and no slipping yet. Don't know how good they'd be in wet/muddy, but I don't have that here in SoCal

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    Quote Originally Posted by DucJ
    The 420's on my SXT that were only $59 bux
    yeah Azonic 420's are nice and very durable

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    in add'n to older, thick pedals (tioga etc), I own 3 pairs of modern pedals i.e. thin profile: point1 podiums, kona wah wahs, and cromo spindle prerunners.

    all 3 are good pedals; all are quite different, with pros/cons.

    - the wah-wah has a big ass platform, great for big feet, and feels amazingly secure with stealth and non-stealth rubber shoes. the weight is heavier than some of the blingy options. durability (bushing, and pedal body) has been good...mine have been hammered for 2 years now. and the price is right. the big platform size means that sometimes (rare) i get a rock strike i'm not expecting e.g. when rising forward to crank on a flat section, or other situations when the pedal is not horizontal.

    - the podium has a very thin cross section w/ no pins under the ball of foot area. Combined with the overall shape, and beveled edges, i almost never hit the rocks with these pedals. Manages to be relatively light and super tough. I think these will last a very long time. However, I don't like these pedals with non-stealth soles; not enough grip. Also, the very pronounced hump on the alu body near the spindle base means you can't position your foot in close to the crank arm. On my DH bike, that's a non-issue, but on my AM bike that gets pedalled up long-ass climbs, i much prefer to have my feet a little closer together.

    - the cromo twenty6 prerunner is a good all-round pedal. pins get mangled pretty easily. it doesn't have the thin feel of the podiums, but it does have more pins and more grip. and for a FR bike that gets pedalled uphill, these pedals are nice since you can position your foot anywhere on the pedal -- no hump. i didn't mind paying $160 for mine, but the regular retail price is kinda high for a part that you know will get beaten on. Have heard bad things about the Ti version from local riders.

    so bottom line for me is that the Podium is my favorite DH pedal, the Prerunner is my favorite AM/FR pedal, and the Kona is a great all-round pedal that I'll continue to use, and will recommend to anyone looking for a good pedal under $100.
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    Austrian Platform Pedals those wacky Germans

    Some new CNC pedal work out of Austria / Germany with keywords: "FR Reset Big Fat Flat Pinking". I have a feeling we're in a new level of pedal design - less lazy slapping on brand name on the exact same pedals (made by HT & Wellgo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman
    Azonic 420

    Extruded body
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    W33 & V9 Pins
    Weight: 430g with pins (pair)

    I bought these last year, mostly because I had good luck with their A-Frame pedal, so I thought I would give these a try ( and they match my Outlaw rims ). I'm impressed. The bearings spin smooth as the day I installed them. No play, no slip, nice wide platform pedal and they take a ton of abuse. And only $75 on Pricepoint currently.
    I used these for a while until I rode my buds bike with Deity Decoys on it... Mucho better grip on the Deities. I now ride Deities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    in add'n to older, thick pedals (tioga etc), I own 3 pairs of modern pedals i.e. thin profile: point1 podiums, kona wah wahs, and cromo spindle prerunners.

    all 3 are good pedals; all are quite different, with pros/cons.

    - the wah-wah has a big ass platform, great for big feet, and feels amazingly secure with stealth and non-stealth rubber shoes. the weight is heavier than some of the blingy options. durability (bushing, and pedal body) has been good...mine have been hammered for 2 years now. and the price is right. the big platform size means that sometimes (rare) i get a rock strike i'm not expecting e.g. when rising forward to crank on a flat section, or other situations when the pedal is not horizontal.

    - the podium has a very thin cross section w/ no pins under the ball of foot area. Combined with the overall shape, and beveled edges, i almost never hit the rocks with these pedals. Manages to be relatively light and super tough. I think these will last a very long time. However, I don't like these pedals with non-stealth soles; not enough grip. Also, the very pronounced hump on the alu body near the spindle base means you can't position your foot in close to the crank arm. On my DH bike, that's a non-issue, but on my AM bike that gets pedalled up long-ass climbs, i much prefer to have my feet a little closer together.

    - the cromo twenty6 prerunner is a good all-round pedal. pins get mangled pretty easily. it doesn't have the thin feel of the podiums, but it does have more pins and more grip. and for a FR bike that gets pedalled uphill, these pedals are nice since you can position your foot anywhere on the pedal -- no hump. i didn't mind paying $160 for mine, but the regular retail price is kinda high for a part that you know will get beaten on. Have heard bad things about the Ti version from local riders.

    so bottom line for me is that the Podium is my favorite DH pedal, the Prerunner is my favorite AM/FR pedal, and the Kona is a great all-round pedal that I'll continue to use, and will recommend to anyone looking for a good pedal under $100.
    Actually, based on reading your own review, the Wah-wah's are the best.

    Seriously - the point about the 2 pins under the ball of the foot, I think this is a small little difference that gets overlooked. Yes, this body is basically a catalogue part used by many others - BUT - I think only Kona adds the 2 pins in the middle. Don't know how big a difference this makes, but I do know that I like my Wah-wah's.

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    More bling please!

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    Update: I didn't order the Blackspire Sub4. I went with Fly Ruben PC Pedals, 350gr. $15

    If I destroy them on a stair or park bench, throw away and buy another set.. Done..


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    SofaKingHigh: Sweet! Wow, great build, and then the $15 pedals. I wondered what was going on with my riding crew switching to JCPC pedals (the ones sandwiched together without bearings) on their full suspension rigs. Do you have a height? I imagine those plastic pedals are a lot thicker than typical alloys since they need to add more material for strength (fiberglass polycarbonate plastic).
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    SofaKingHigh: Sweet! Wow, great build, and then the $15 pedals. I wondered what was going on with my riding crew switching to JCPC pedals (the ones sandwiched together without bearings) on their full suspension rigs. Do you have a height? I imagine those plastic pedals are a lot thicker than typical alloys since they need to add more material for strength (fiberglass polycarbonate plastic).
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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! More platform pedals

    Top to bottom:

    - Straitline JC Platform Pedals
    - Atomlab Pimplite Pedals
    - Macneil pedals (copied the Atomlab Pimp pedals)
    - Twenty6 Prerunner 2010 urban camo
    - Eclat pedals
    - Fly Bikes Ruben plastic "graphite" pc pedals





    ... still undecided. But I think the consumer has a good number of choices ... hmmm.
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    Hope wellgo goes after well, blackspire design

    p.s. Did wellgo make the blackspire "made in canada" design or did they change the design 20% by flipping around elements like a lego play kit?

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    We the people ... Review Oct '10

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    Hope Wellgo MG-1: bang for the buck

    Wellgo MG-1: bang for the buck contender (why one would buy plastic test pedals over the MG1's as they're the same price point?) Similar to the Tioga MX Comp pedals, except the Wellgo's come in white silver purple and have titanium axle upgrades prevalently available.

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    Point1 Racing Podium Platform Flat Pedals 372g

    Point1 Podium pedals shipping tomorrow!

    Sourced via All Mountain Next, mtbr vikingboy, dark horse racing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighitboy
    Throw the wellgo MG-1s in there

    375 grams,

    Super bite,

    1 season per set ( i ride a ton), @ 40 a pair, they are replaceable (like any pedal)

    Best light weight pedal of the entire market, I have years with the model ask anyone!

    wow, where are you finding these for $40 a pair? I've been shopping around and can't find them for that much.
    Does that include tax and shipping, too?
    Thanks.

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    mowerman: eslay is your friend. I'm finding them for sub-$30 shipped. At that price, it blows away any disposable type BMX pedal like the Ruben, Odyssey, Demo PC, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    mowerman: eslay is your friend. I'm finding them for sub-$30 shipped. At that price, it blows away any disposable type BMX pedal like the Ruben, Odyssey, Demo PC, etc.
    Yea, but with ep pricing I can get 5 pairs of disposable BMX pedals to your one. (Errr. just being a smarta$$)

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    sofakinghigh, true! The guys on my weekly ride roll those JCPC pedals which are plastic and bearingless, with the gold screw nut hardware and plastic bodies but I think their retail is $50?! Most of the BMX plastic pedals are $15 but some of the more brand name pro models are $30+. Every time I think of them though, I keep seeing the plastic test pedals (the ones with orange reflectors) that come on all bikes from the LBS.
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    I have a set of wah wahs. Love the shape and size and feel. Not too stoked on the small pins. Don't get me wrong the grip is more than adequate, I think I prefer the feel over larger pins, but they get bashed out really quick. The threads are so small / fine pitch / not deep and there is not much holding them into the pedal body.

    Still a good pedal but my next set will be Straitline or Point One.

    Speaking of flats. I was on a xc ride a while back where everyone had clipless except for myself. No big deal, that is common. We were geeking out about bike parts on a break until it came to pedals and the common response was "why would anyone spend more than $5 on flat pedals"... I tried to explain but quickly gave up.

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    I just picked up a Turner Rail w/ Kona's. Think they're wah-wah's, but may be older. Like 'em fine but can't say I notice a big difference from my $15 Shadow's on the Hard Rock. Kinda like running shoes, if I don't notice them, no problem! Diggin the looks of those profile's ilna's getting, but the $$$, ouch!!! That said, it's obviously one killer machining job...

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    currently have transition stepdowns ans wellgo mg1s. Had been really happy with the stepdowns on my am ride, but decided to go cheaper for a set for the dh rig. just don't really like the mg1s. pins are too short (which can be fixed with new pins, true) but the platform is just too small for my liking, and my feet aren't that big (10 1/2). For 50 bux, transtions have stood up to a lot of bashing and are good n sticky. Another pair is on order now--anyone want some lightly used mg1s?

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    No one likes Answer Rove Pedals?

    Why not?

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    joeschmoe: considering the Answer Rove pedal is yet another of the dozens upon dozens of rehashed/re-branded HT pedals...if you buy something because choosing a color is considered "custom" then...
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    i just saw sone knockoff pedals on ebay. DIXI is the name. looks like copies of the straitlines and crampons

    ive been rocking some HT AX08s for about 6 mos and no issues. they are a little small and ive gotten a few foot cramps on techy descents though.

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    Happened upon a review of those Podium's where the reviewer would have liked more pegs in the center axle area. Looks like the second photo posted shows a good setup with those longer inside pegs (they're a different color too). Might bear remembering...

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    I have used the Podium pedals for a season and love them. They do not have a weak area with the exception of price. My feet just stick to these pedals like glue, they lessen the amount of pedal rock strikes and have held up to many hours of harsh Platty, Diablo, Mt Snow DHing. I do not regret this purchase thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue109
    i just saw sone knockoff pedals on ebay. DIXI is the name. looks like copies of the straitlines and crampons
    Their pedals look great and are cheap anybody have them?

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    rockclimber, aint my money but... the dixi ebay pedals are listed at 17mm height. That's no different than the many other generic pedals in height, meaning that although they took a lot of styling cues from Crampon pedals, they are just that, the look without the function. So at $65, it's a ripoff when you could have the real thing for double that with both function and style. Again, aint my money, if you pull the trigger and guinea pig it, please post your review here for us to see.
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    Didn't even see that, thanks!

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    I dunno, those Dixies look plenty low enough to me and a good weight too, might be a good balance of price/performance

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    search some of the old pedal threads. lots of people bashing the HTs until oops.....they figured out its the same exact pedal as the "cool" brands.

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    Idea! Point1 Podium x Brooklyn Machine Works Veggie Burger

    Just got the Point1 Podium pedals, took a shot next to the monstrous Brooklyn Machine Works Veggie Burger pedals (ebay 250719375847). Looks like there are now a pair of USA-made-CNC'd mountain bike pedals on the market! San Jose, California and Brooklyn, New York for the win!

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    New question here. Yet another HT rebrand bites the dust

    HT > Deity rebranded "Decoy 2.0" > Bricklane Bikes rebranded "Flatliner"

    Gotta hand it to Deity and Bricklane, they are the pinnacle of innovation with renaming the pedals!

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    Word to the wise,

    The HTi pedals I have been using on my bike (not a DH or FR rig, forgive me) have suffered greatly in the 6 short months I have been using them. They are the magnesium bodied, 17mm thick stock that looks identical to the Deity pedals pictured above. My lead foot pedal has maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of its original pins left. The holes are not drilled all the way through...probably for a reason...so the pins cannot be replaced (holes get deforemed when pin get ripped out). Sure were a nice, light, grippy, pretty set of pedals when I bought them for $67. Now I am looking at my former pedals, the Sun RIngle Zuzus to figure out why they held up so well for over 2 years. Anywho, no more hex pins for me. They are the weak point for my intended use. I am looking to give the Blackspire Sub4s a shot before I put the Zuzus back on. Anybody out there try the Blackspires yet?
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    i just got my sub4's today and initial impressions are they are the bees knees. retarded light and no place for mud to collect. will have to wait for ride review tho.
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    Thought these might deserve a look...
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    dark cycles Arachnids. Low profile, light, and grippy. Plus their design stands out among the rest.

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    still like my transition stepdowns. 500-sumthin gs, 60 bux, indestructible for two years . . . great pin placement. not fnacy-boy thin, but can't have it all, I guess . . .

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    @albeant: Good find on the Syntace NUMBERNINE platform pedals. Interesting Syntace would join the market - they are known for their F99 stems weight weenie certified. However, the price is what?! 148 Euros = $220 USD. OK, so we're talking forged 7075, sealed bearings and 348g weight. But...get the F' out of here. The sloppy forged design makes them appear like some MKS Grip King commuter pedals made by Rivendell Bicycle Works. But those are 1/4 the buy in if that.
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    superstar pedals with 7mm+ pins are by far the best pedals ive come across. plus cheap, and great selection of colours.

    here is my modded superstar nano thru pins
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    Those "pins" are way too long. Does your shoe even come in contact with the pedal?

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    These new DMR's (the Vault) certainly look da bidniz:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4
    Those "pins" are way too long. Does your shoe even come in contact with the pedal?
    well, granted they are screws. but at 6 quid for 50 verse 25 quid per pedal for 'official' pins there was no choice.

    and no my shoe does not touch the pedal, its best that way as then mud does not build up and make the pins shorter, 6 months of running those pins and not a single pedal slip even in the wettest muddiest conditions on steep trails. just have to make sure you put your foot in the right place to start with
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxxer rider
    superstar pedals with 7mm+ pins are by far the best pedals ive come across. plus cheap, and great selection of colours.

    here is my modded superstar nano thru pins
    Have the ER on standby with those things! I thought my tioga mx pedals were bad,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxxer rider
    superstar pedals with 7mm+ pins are by far the best pedals ive come across. plus cheap, and great selection of colours.

    here is my modded superstar nano thru pins

    I guess you haven't had your pedals stick to your shin yet... or some other body part..

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    My Kona Wah Wahs are toast, developing annoying spindle play. Only times I ever found myself lacking grip with those is bouncing down some pretty serious rockgardens at speed So....

    Stickier??? Stronger??? Thinner???: Canfield Crampon or Point1 Podium. ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    Anybody out there try the Blackspires yet?
    They're awesome The quality for the price is fantastic! I've had HTs, Azonics, Sun Ringles, etc. and there's none of the sharp edges, burs, cheap looking seals, etc. that the other pedals had. Also, the thru pins are a great setup. Been riding them for a few months and haven't lost, or even damaged a pin to the point that I can't easily get it out I'm extremely happy with them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei

    Stickier??? Stronger??? Thinner???: Canfield Crampon or Point1 Podium. ??
    Cramponīs? Podiums?... I dunno, they are very good pedals, but they bend easily if you happen to hit stumps on the trail. Besides, i heard those pedals arenīt interchangeable from left to right so you canīt bring just one on your camelbak as a spare, youīll need to bring a pair which would be a PITA.

    At the end they might be really nice pedals, though.... or maybe not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritopc
    Cramponīs? Podiums?... I dunno, they are very good pedals, but they bend easily if you happen to hit stumps on the trail. Besides, i heard those pedals arenīt interchangeable from left to right so you canīt bring just one on your camelbak as a spare, youīll need to bring a pair which would be a PITA.

    At the end they might be really nice pedals, though.... or maybe not.
    What pedals are interchangeable from left to right?

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    I wondered that too, maybe he means the pedals only, and not the spindles? I've never carried a spare pedal though, so what do I know?

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    I do believe that was a reference to YoPawn and his escapades stump riding...

    As for the Blackspire Sub-4. I have a set and so does a buddy. So far they are impressing me. The only thing is the platform seems a bit narrower. The weight is bang on 350grams for the pair. I also have a set of Dark Cycle Arachnids that I love. Bigger platform than the Blackspire, but also heavier at 440 grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykel
    I do believe that was a reference to YoPawn and his escapades stump riding...

    As for the Blackspire Sub-4. I have a set and so does a buddy. So far they are impressing me. The only thing is the platform seems a bit narrower. The weight is bang on 350grams for the pair. I also have a set of Dark Cycle Arachnids that I love. Bigger platform than the Blackspire, but also heavier at 440 grams.

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    Where did you get your sub-4's? I found some at goose creek cycles online for $85 shipped. Was gonna get them but have never ordered from them. They look great for the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstertiki
    Where did you get your sub-4's? I found some at goose creek cycles online for $85 shipped. Was gonna get them but have never ordered from them. They look great for the price.

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    ride-this.com has em for $74... Not sure about availability though... A steal at that price b/c they are a sweet set of pedals that weigh only 350g...
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    soooo....calling all the pedal gurus (addicts...):

    -I notice that the majority of pedals seems to have a shape where the platform curves away from the crank arms (a la Podium). I think this might bother me - the Wahwahs I run now are the opposite, the platform curves back in from the spindle towards the cranks, giving you more support for the inside of the foot as you move them in close to the crank arm (which I happen to like to do). So the question is: do any of you notice this/are you bothered by it?

    -most pedals do not have pins under the ball of the foot. Again, that is something that I think would bother me - but I don't know. Maybe with a good pin pattern around the edges, the grip is enough? My Wahwahs have 2 pins in the middle...I can't say for sure if it's better, but I do know that even in sticky mud, they work well.

    Any input on these 2 points? I am looking at those new DMRs (the Vault), they look like they should be good pedals, but because of the 2 points I listed above, I hesitate...and they are an expensive experiment, so I don't want to just throw myself into it...
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    I just ordered a pair of Podium's for my new build, and I'm looking forward to trying them out.

    My go to pedal for the past year on all my bikes has been the Answer FR Rove:


    Similar in platform shape to your Kona pedals, except the platform comes out at a 90 degree from the spindle instead of angling back toward the crank arm.

    In my experience, as someone who dabs a lot or corners moto style, I sometimes find myself hitting my heel on the crank arms as I'm replacing my feet and trying to find the "sweet spot" on the platform. In my opinion, the Podiums with their platform angled away from the crank a bit will give your feet a bit more clearance between the platform and crank arm, making it less likely you will be stepping on the cranks when you pull your feet back on.

    As far as pins go, it is all personal preference. If you do ride with your feet regularly off the pedals, there is such a thing as too much grip. I've never had any problems with slipping a pedal on my Rove's and do not think it will be a problem with the Podium. As an alternative, Point 1 Racing does offer some longer pins for the Podium. I ordered a set from them last week.

    If you haven't already, read this review of the Podium on pinkbike.com:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    -I notice that the majority of pedals seems to have a shape where the platform curves away from the crank arms (a la Podium). I think this might bother me - the Wahwahs I run now are the opposite, the platform curves back in from the spindle towards the cranks, giving you more support for the inside of the foot as you move them in close to the crank arm (which I happen to like to do). So the question is: do any of you notice this/are you bothered by it?
    The difference is that the Kona has exposed spindle before it enters the pedal body, whereas the Podium does not, same as on my prerunners. So on those style pedals you don't stand on the platform right next to the crankarm or you'll rub your shoes on the crankarm/ chainstay. For me it took a bit to get used to, but wasn't a big deal.
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    Been pretty happy with my new used Twenty6 prerunners, i need to play around with pins a bit for better grip on the real bumpy DH sheeit.

    They're super light, and deflect off stuff well.

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    Iceman, one of my bikes has the older Deity pedals that cut back towards the cranks and one bike has the new style which removed that bit of material to save weight. I thought it would be an issue but it has not been one at all. Love the pedals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason B.
    Iceman, one of my bikes has the older Deity pedals that cut back towards the cranks and one bike has the new style which removed that bit of material to save weight. I thought it would be an issue but it has not been one at all. Love the pedals.
    Thanks man. That was my question exactly. Looks like I'll have to succumb to my acute case of pedal upgradeitis then... (which is really quite silly since I love my Wahwahs...but what'r you gunna do...the only way to cure blingitis is to buy something...).

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    All I care about is durability. I hate when a pedals develops play after a few rides. Really don't want to be rebuilding a pedal every few weeks because it looks cool and is super thin. My question is which pedal gives the most longevity? I do like the idea of the Sunline V-1 with sealed ball and needle bearing instead of du.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    -most pedals do not have pins under the ball of the foot. Again, that is something that I think would bother me - but I don't know. Maybe with a good pin pattern around the edges, the grip is enough? My Wahwahs have 2 pins in the middle...I can't say for sure if it's better, but I do know that even in sticky mud, they work well.
    With my limited experience (snow riding) I'm already pretty certain that I like my flats with pins under the ball of the foot a lot more than my more blingy pedals that do not have pins there. My pedals without those pins are Superstar Nanos and yes they have good grip but not in the middle.

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    spank spike pedals

    @coopie, yeah, valid points.DU bushings have their place but are something to avoid for majority of riders.

    @jasevr4, the Spank Spikes are promising. The axle interface without the wrench flats is a direct copy of the Podium1's. No, not influenced or inspired, straight up copied. The platform is the former, and the price is quoted at 120= which is closer to the real deal than a copy. There is an update, with a single pin near the center spindle.This was a suggestion made by users of the newer styled flats that are posted in the OP's offerings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    -most pedals do not have pins under the ball of the foot.
    Dunno if it matters, but it seemed suspicious to me, too.
    I ordered a set of VP-001s to find out.
    Might have them in time for the weekend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS
    Dunno if it matters, but it seemed suspicious to me, too.
    I ordered a set of VP-001s to find out.
    Might have them in time for the weekend...

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=38284
    Those pedals look to good to be true for 60 bucks. 13mm thickness, 360 grams, pins everywhere. Let us know how they work for you once you get to try them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstertiki
    Those pedals look to good to be true for 60 bucks. 13mm thickness, 360 grams, pins everywhere. Let us know how they work for you once you get to try them out.
    Agreed. These look like they'd be worth trying. The do have the old style allen head pins that don't go clear through the pedal but other than that they look the biz. Good color options too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    The axle interface without the wrench flats is a direct copy of the Podium1's. No, not influenced or inspired, straight up copied.
    Podiums haven't been out long enough to claim to be the first with that axle design. I have plenty of CB pedals with the same type axle.
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    Dangit - now I don't know which to get. The sub-4s look sweet but those VP-001s look mighty tasty too.

    Gonna finally bite the bullet and go the platform route as I think once I am used to them (been clipless for a long time) I think I will like the freedom on my DH bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewp29
    Dangit - now I don't know which to get. The sub-4s look sweet but those VP-001s look mighty tasty too.

    Gonna finally bite the bullet and go the platform route as I think once I am used to them (been clipless for a long time) I think I will like the freedom on my DH bike.
    I was about to pull the trigger on the sub4 but then saw this and got squeamish. I just ordered Wellgo b030 pedals instead for $53 shipped. We'll see how they perform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    I was about to pull the trigger on the sub4 but then saw this and got squeamish. I just ordered Wellgo b030 pedals instead for $53 shipped. We'll see how they perform.

    I've been looking at the Sub4s too, and appreciate the post/info/alternative Buddhak. I had been kind of looking for Sub4-like alternatives for comparison purposes, so appreciate the Wellgo option. Tx.

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    So how fast does Straitlines develop play in normal situations? I dont do 50 foot gap jumps, just an average dh rider. Sick of play developing in my pedals. Two sets of 50/50 both x and xx, two sets of Funn Slojams loose balls, atomlabs, and old Easton Cullies. The CB 50/50 xx was the worest so far had so much play after one ride thought my bike was falling apart. On my second warranty replacement.

    I'm either getting a set of Straitlines (you get what you pay for) Or Sunline V-1's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopie
    All I care about is durability. I hate when a pedals develops play after a few rides. Really don't want to be rebuilding a pedal every few weeks because it looks cool and is super thin. My question is which pedal gives the most longevity? I do like the idea of the Sunline V-1 with sealed ball and needle bearing instead of du.
    To my knowledge, Burgtec MK3's are the only pedals with a 3 year warranty on the spindle and body. That should matter if you are looking for durability. Smash them on a rock, no problem. You'll probably break the rock. If you smash anything else on a rock, well, tough luck. I bought a couple sets of Burgtecs and love them. On my DJ (overkill) and DH bike.
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    Those burgtec pedals are expensive. CRC $214. Good reviews I have to say, might have to work a little harder and save.

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    Sheeeit, if you're gonna spend over $200, get the Twenty6's, they're plenty burly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    Agreed. These look like they'd be worth trying. The do have the old style allen head pins that don't go clear through the pedal but other than that they look the biz. Good color options too.
    Great size, weight and price - nice find. Too bad about the pins - I already wrote off that design as being incompatible with my riding style and rocky terrain.
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    I don't see why the twenty6 pre-runners weren't in this? They are THE best flat I have ever run, not to mention some pros are switching to them. I have an identical colored pair to the set on the Litespeed above. they are awesome flats...

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    @KRob: You need to avoid any pedals with shims or black plastic washers. A lot of the thin pedals have them on the inside of the pedal, closest to the spindle. Atomlab Trailkings were one of the, if not the original thin platform pedal, still has the best looks of them all, but they used that sleeve type washer/bearing that just disintegrated and developed play. Not a problem if you rebuild it with the small parts, but it does cause owners to ***** and moan - same construction on the Eggbeater pedals pre-2011 models, and you can see the results of that. Rebuild once a season isn't unexpected to racers. Since you ask for durability and reliability anti-service, a pedal with big sealed cartridge bearings is the way to go. Syncros Mental with its quad bearings come to mind, as does the Sunline V1 and even the Easton Flatboy. It's all in my first post as the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    @KRob: You need to avoid any pedals with shims or black plastic washers. A lot of the thin pedals have them on the inside of the pedal, closest to the spindle. Atomlab Trailkings were one of the, if not the original thin platform pedal, still has the best looks of them all, but they used that sleeve type washer/bearing that just disintegrated and developed play. Not a problem if you rebuild it with the small parts, but it does cause owners to ***** and moan - same construction on the Eggbeater pedals pre-2011 models, and you can see the results of that. Rebuild once a season isn't unexpected to racers. Since you ask for durability and reliability anti-service, a pedal with big sealed cartridge bearings is the way to go. Syncros Mental with its quad bearings come to mind, as does the Sunline V1 and even the Easton Flatboy. It's all in my first post as the OP.

    Thanks for the heads up. Do the Deity Decoys and Kona Wah Wahs have the same issue (I think they are both Trail King copies)? They are also tops on my list.
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    My WahWahs only held up for 2 months/4-5 rides before developing play, I was pissed. A buddy of mine who does bigger drops and is/rides heavier than I has no play in his pair that he's ridden for way longer, so I'm not sure what the hell to think of em'. It's possible I maybe got a bad batch....

    Would have to agree with IDS on the prerunners being the best I've tried so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei
    Would have to agree with IDS on the prerunners being the best I've tried so far.
    The one thing I've noticed about the PreRunners, I have two friends who own some, is that some of the tabs that hold the pins have a habit of bending over snapping. Luckily they already have 20 pins a side or something like that.

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    Wellgo B030 in the house. No ride yet, but as a FYI:

    1. these pedals have the Sun/Ringle Zuzu style pins (solid core, thread thru from the bottom) that I think are the most durable set-up. So far so good.
    2. They look and feel a tad small as compared to your basic HT/Deity/Kona square design...I don't know if this will affect riding yet, but the difference is better seen than felt, if you catch my drift.
    3. For $50 delivered, I really can't complain yet. They are not Podiums, for sure. Time will tell if they work well for my rocky terrain, SS riding.

    BTW, has anybody mentioned the VP-59s yet? They look super simple, but seem to have the essential goods (size, sturdy pins, thin). Apparently VP showed some scary looking pedals at NAHBS this year.
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    Just got vp pedals yesterday and tried them out shortly there after. I like the lower profile and light weight of the pedal. They grip well, at least as good as my old low pro mags which are still in great shape after a year with very minimal play. I need more time to find out how reliable the vp's are but so far I like them. For 60 bucks they seem like a good bang for the buck. Only thing I don't like is the older style pins they use.



    A lot thinner than the low pro mags! I was surpised at the size difference.

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    Idea! Syncros Crux - brother of the Mental pedal

    @monstertiki: thanks for sharing. You'll notice the platform height difference immediately although I would say the old pedal pin layout is equal or better than your new pedals.

    Anyone using the Syncros Crux pedals? They're 6061, lower profile than the Mental's, 4 bearings each pedal, concave, 428g pair.

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    I don't know. They look like they might be pretty sweet. With the rocky trails in SoCal, my pedals look shredded pretty much right away anyway, so I have no problem with the unpolished appearance.

    I particularly like the attention to bearings and free spin. I've got a pair of the neon green 2011 prerunners, and as nice as the platform is, they don't spin very easily. Great for dirt jumps, I suppose, but not so much for the 4700' of climbing it takes to summit Mt. Wilson out of my front door.

    (My current theory is that bearing/bushing/seal drag makes the pedal more likely to roll under the foot when climbing steep, technical trails.)

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    Just an update on my vp-001's... THEY FAWKING SUCK!... The grip is good, thin, and they are light but thats all they got going for them. I raced the local super D this weekend. Upon finishing the race I had a super bad cramp in my calf so I jumped off my bike and let it fall while I stretched my calf out. After I recovered I picked up the bike and noticed the pedal on the side I dropped it on was dented in on the top and bottom of the hole that gives you access to the axle on the outside edge of the pedal. I figured no big deal, I dropped it and that part is thin so thats my bad.

    Today I did the DH race, on the way down I clipped a rock, nothing I haven't done before as the spitfire has a pretty low bottom bracket so it happens now and than. While I was pedaling I felt something weird about the pedal as I continued down the course. Keep in mind I wasn't catching big airs or doing bigger drops (nothing over three feet). When I got to the end and had a chance to stop and check out the pedal this was the result of a minor pedal strike.




    I would not recommend this pedal at all on a mountain bike, bmx bike, or any bike for that matter. The outter edge of the pedal is too fragile. I have hit rocks with my low pro mags, tioga mx, and wellgo b-67's. Sure they get scuffed up a bit but not damaged like these did.
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    Idea! Flypaper Pedal

    @ monstertiki, sorry to hear. VP001s not a good deal at $60, or at $20 for that matter. Here's a quote from MTBR member, NWS: There are plenty of half-baked ideas that make it all the way to retail, so the customers end up doing all of the product testing. If a failed product just meant I had to rip-and-replace, it wouldn't be a big deal, but if a pedal fails at the wrong moment it will produce a trip to the hospital.

    While we're talking about VP, let's post a prototype pedal, VP Free Rider, seen at '11 NAHBS that is clearly inspired by the 2007 "Flypaper pedal" (MTBR member, Bike Doc). The problem with Flypaper was the prerequisite to use modified cranks re: Momentum Bicycle, see the huge interface section at the crankarm and pedal spindle. VP took care of that handicap, but from monstertiki's post above, will VP copy and undercut the original only to leave the customers to product test? Saving a few bucks for a generic copy is actually more expensive in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albeant
    I've got a pair of the neon green 2011 prerunners, and as nice as the platform is, they don't spin very easily. Great for dirt jumps, I suppose, but not so much for the 4700' of climbing it takes to summit Mt. Wilson out of my front door.

    (My current theory is that bearing/bushing/seal drag makes the pedal more likely to roll under the foot when climbing steep, technical trails.)
    Let me know if you figure out a solution for a little better freespin on the prerunners. Probably my only gripe with 'em, I've learnde to deal with it on the climbs.

    On a side note, they perform awesome in the wet!! Spent all day today in the rain and mud going though the soupy to running creeks.

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    Beta-testers of the world unite. Stop paying manufacturers for the privilege of doing their product testing for them.

    Shocking amount of products being thrown out there without any apparent real-world testing behind them. I wouldn't exactly trust VP to come up with a solution to a very difficult equation (in the form of a pedal with no through-axle), when they can't even get their basic pedal right.

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    im looking forward to testing the new pedal trend

    deity and Nukeproof are bringing HT copies to the table.. in shape at least, but with nylon/plastic bodies..

    deity quotes replacement bodies for theirs to be 9 bucks.

    and metal pins.. at around 45 bucks for a set of pedals, its worth a go

    dont get me wrong, i would love a set of podiums, or twenty6s but if the cheap nylon ones work.. im all over those

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    While we're talking about VP, let's post a prototype pedal, VP Free Rider
    The flypaper had the spindle as part of the pedal body with the bearings mounted in the crank. That just looks like a normal pedal with half as many bearings. I wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade
    ...I wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it.
    It would however fly quite well if you did, given its shape.
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    That VP freerider looks amazing if it would work.

    Anyone got any more info, wouldn't mind beta testing those?
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    @monstertiki: thanks for sharing. You'll notice the platform height difference immediately although I would say the old pedal pin layout is equal or better than your new pedals.

    Anyone using the Syncros Crux pedals? They're 6061, lower profile than the Mental's, 4 bearings each pedal, concave, 428g pair.

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    Like the looks of this one.... but it's getting pricey at $145-169.

    I don't smash pedals much (I've been running the same pair of CB acids on my FR bike for 2 years without issue) so maybe the VP would be OK?

    Are platform pedals more exposed/susceptible to rocks than clipless?
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    I ruined those VP pedals in less than a week, riding downhill mind-you. One completely deformed around a rock. That section outside of the axle support folded on both. No good. Got them on eBay for ~$40 IIRC, still not worth it. They might suffice for trail riding, but not DH in my experience. Just a heads up.
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    You don't even need to hit a rock with the vp 001 pedals. I dropped my bike and the hole that leads to the pedal axle was dented pretty good. They are junk.

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    I didn't see the Dark Cycles Arachnids posted:



    I love these pedals! if anything, they are pretty unique looking. But they do work well.

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    +1 on the arachnids! I have a set on my Banshee. light, low profile, grip, stand out in the crowd.

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    I also have a pair of Arachnids. Been running them for 3 years with no issues. They do use the old style grub screw, but this can be changed to one of the new style socket head pins.

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    Picked up a couple sets of these on my internet travels...

    look and feel pretty decent at $46 each, looking forward to trying them once the snow goes away.


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    Wow, those Arachnids look cool, how much??

    Nobody has mentioned the speedplay drilliums, I used em' for a while until i wanted something a lil' thinner and got the wah-wahs. They were some pretty awesome pedals with a super fat platform area. Ended up givin' em' to a buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei
    Wow, those Arachnids look cool, how much??

    Nobody has mentioned the speedplay drilliums, I used em' for a while until i wanted something a lil' thinner and got the wah-wahs. They were some pretty awesome pedals with a super fat platform area. Ended up givin' em' to a buddy.
    Dag. Can I be your buddy? My riding buddy has been on the same set of Drilliums for years - first DH, now XC. I would be there in a New York minit if the pegs weren't set screws. The platform is gargantuan and perfectly concave. It's like a comfy sofa for your feet. I love those pedals.
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    I like that description, sofa for the feet, pretty accurate from what I remember. It was a pretty generous giveaway I 'spose, but I've been hounding this particular dude to get more into biking for a looong while. I figured a few nice pieces might help him enjoy ridin' hard a bit more. He just bought his first FS

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    I was pretty set on the Blackspire Sub4's until I saw this...



    As well here

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    ^^ Yeah that. I'm over getting super light weight pedals if they get damaged easily. I just ordered a set of those answer rove pedals. Not that light but look well built and I like the pins.

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    Xpedo FaceOff XM13

    Stupid grippy with just skate shoes. Only had them 2 weeks so can't speak to strength.

    Notice the pins are focused on the axle where your weight is centered.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Digipenguin
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    Stupid grippy with just skate shoes. Only had them 2 weeks so can't speak to strength.

    Notice the pins are focused on the axle where your weight is centered.
    Had those too, shredded quickly. Hope you have better luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado
    Had those too, shredded quickly. Hope you have better luck.

    What happened to them? Was it that they couldn't take getting bashed or they just fell apart on their own? I ask because I dont smack my pedals very often so if that's the case then I'm not really worried about it, but if they wear out quickly and explode on their own I might look at getting something else. Thanks.

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    digipenguin, my friend's bike has those xpedos, and the grip is pretty mediocre. platform is small too. better pedals out there for not much more $$.
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    They look like Wellgos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kameraguy
    I didn't see the Dark Cycles Arachnids posted:



    I love these pedals! if anything, they are pretty unique looking. But they do work well.
    I just ordered a pair today. I can't wait to see them in person.

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    Oooooo, spooky. I like the looks.

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    Has anyone tried these out? They look pretty good, but then again so did those VP pedals, I dont wana be the one to try them out and have them get shredded by some stoopid rock. I know they are European so its not likely anyone has tried them. They also make some higher end models.

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    Just got a pair of the Deity Decoy LTD's . . . stoked on them. Expensive, light, and blingy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardrocker77
    Has anyone tried these out? They look pretty good, but then again so did those VP pedals, I dont wana be the one to try them out and have them get shredded by some stoopid rock. I know they are European so its not likely anyone has tried them. They also make some higher end models.

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=58615
    They're not European. At least not made in Europe or even designed here (unless a colour scheme is considered as a design). Rebranding mostly. Octane One is the same company as Ns Bikes. Generic Chinese/Taiwanese catalogue products mostly but in some rather awesome colours. I just went with Wellgo V12 copies instead of those Octane Ones (would have loved the green ones), same price range so no biggie if they fail after a year or two.

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    anyone had some time on the new dmr vaults?


    they have everything i like on a pedal.
    Just how good are they grip / durability wise?

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    nice pedals here
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    Idea! Titanium spindle platform pedals 300g/set for sub-$90-

    @Beeskneez: cool colors (blue black gold) there on the DMR's, notice too the different screw types on the pedal (short and tall heights, hex heads?). Wonder why that is?

    This is a good opportunity to bring up my post #60 about the Wellgo MG-1's. I never owned them so cant speak for quality or pedal height (they appear thick compared to all the latest slim platforms) but for sub-$90 shipped, magnesium platforms, titanium spindles and a weight of sub-150g per pedal (300g pedal set), that's pretty legit. Too legit to quit, especially when sellers from Asia are selling the 76g gold anodized titanium spindles alone for $70. There are other blue and silver titanium spindles from Canada that are Ti6Al4V at 82g/set but these do have a 200 lb rider weight limit.

    As a Clydesdale, these weight limits, appreciate they're honest, but they have prevented me from going ti spindles. Notice how weight limits are different amongst all companies from 180lbs Crank Brothers to 235 lbs from Ward industries with USA sourced and made Ti-6al-4v spindles that are rated at 235lbs right weight limit.

    Below: the sub-$90 300g/set Wellgo MG-1's titanium spindles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    @Beeskneez: cool colors (blue black gold) there on the DMR's, notice too the different screw types on the pedal (short and tall heights, hex heads?). Wonder why that is?
    different heights, and also some pins have to go in from the top due to their location. They are a little on the heavy side but DMR bearings seem to last longer than most.

    Funny how many of those broken Sub4 pics are from a single user (DHPete)

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    OMG! Fanboi alert! Seen on Sam Hill's bike:



    Crank Brothers protos apparently...

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    I have a set of used red arachnids for sale if anyone want. let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    OMG! Fanboi alert! Seen on Sam Hill's bike...
    Looks flexy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash
    Just got a pair of the Deity Decoy LTD's . . . stoked on them. Expensive, light, and blingy.
    I have been running those since last August. Multiple laps down Porcupine Rim in Moab, which is hard on gear. So far, so good. They are definitely light and blingy, and my credit card did not like me the day I bought them.

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    Best flats... Being clipped in.
    The arsonist has oddly shaped feet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by his dudeness
    Best flats... Being clipped in.
    Blasphemer!! Keep you clipless coolaid to yourself.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Platform Adapters for Clipless

    @his dudeness: Below are pix of CB platform adapters that will qualify your impious statement. However, twisting the platform adapters disengages them, so they're for nothing more than "test rides" and grocery store quick runs.

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    The Winwood Decksters require a set of cleats that customer provides which makes them expensive and a poor value. If you're in that direction, you may just go top shelf with White Industries pedal insert cranks with the QR so you can pop in different pedals minus a wrench or allen key.

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    About 3 weeks ago I had a bad experience with my vp-001 pedals. Long story short, they didn't last a weekend of racing so I wrote a few reviews about them and I chocked it up as a loss. Well a few weeks later I got a pm from a VP rep stating he was a sorry I had a bad experience with the pedals and was gonna send me out a few replacement sets of different pedals. I was amazed by this because I didn't even contact vp directly.

    Last week I got a set of vp-00x pedals delivered to my door. Here they are compared to the vp-001.

    They are almost the same pedal except with a solid axle going all the way through them. This makes them stronger but as a result a tiny bit heavier than the vp-001. The weight is hardly noticeable by feel. Another thing you'll notice is where the axle connects to the cranks is smaller effectively bringing the pedal closer to the crank arms. It wasn't a problem for me, but riders that like larger and wider platforms might not like this.

    After trying them today my opinion on them is they grip very well and felt good under my feet. I do like their low profile and will probably use them on my xc hardtail. Imo these pedals would be good for light trail riding but not dh or freeriding. The rep advised me of this as well. Can't wait to get the other pedals, I give props to VP for listening and providing excellent customer service. I will post pics of the other pedals when I get them.

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    If that rep is reading this, I still have the new-in-box VP-001s that I posted about back here, before we all discovered how long they (don't/won't) last...
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstertiki
    About 3 weeks ago I had a bad experience with my vp-001 pedals. Long story short, they didn't last a weekend of racing so I wrote a few reviews about them and I chocked it up as a loss. Well a few weeks later I got a pm from a VP rep stating he was a sorry I had a bad experience with the pedals and was gonna send me out a few replacement sets of different pedals. I was amazed by this because I didn't even contact vp directly.

    Last week I got a set of vp-00x pedals delivered to my door. Here they are compared to the vp-001.

    They are almost the same pedal except with a solid axle going all the way through them. This makes them stronger but as a result a tiny bit heavier than the vp-001. The weight is hardly noticeable by feel. Another thing you'll notice is where the axle connects to the cranks is smaller effectively bringing the pedal closer to the crank arms. It wasn't a problem for me, but riders that like larger and wider platforms might not like this.

    After trying them today my opinion on them is they grip very well and felt good under my feet. I do like their low profile and will probably use them on my xc hardtail. Imo these pedals would be good for light trail riding but not dh or freeriding. The rep advised me of this as well. Can't wait to get the other pedals, I give props to VP for listening and providing excellent customer service. I will post pics of the other pedals when I get them.
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    the dark cycle arachnids are sick!! I love them on my bike.
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    Bullseye BMX Pedals

    Blue anodized Bullseye pedals with a holy batload of pins across the platform.

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    Ultra Mag CNC Superstar

    Superstar pedals, with cutouts and colored pins. Who has the specs on pedal pins?! Are all threaded holes created equal and are pins interchangeable? Which pin system, grub screw, system is the preferred or best?
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    Good job!

    Got a pair of VP-59's, a much stronger pedal than the 001's and haven't heard any of my buddies having problems with them. Great pedal so far!


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    @TheRifleman, the 5 pins are insufficient and the design process explained by VP is something that just doesn't happen in the real world. e.g. You don't want your foot to slip on a jump, and then reposition after. Let's take it back to the OT and present candidates for best platform pedals ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei
    Let me know if you figure out a solution for a little better freespin on the prerunners. Probably my only gripe with 'em, I've learnde to deal with it on the climbs.

    On a side note, they perform awesome in the wet!! Spent all day today in the rain and mud going though the soupy to running creeks.

    An update: I did disassemble the pedals and relube the bushing with Manitou M-Prep to try to free-up the spin a bit. Sorry to say it didn't make a significant difference; the pedals still turned very stiffly. It was my only gripe too, but it was significant enough that I ended up selling them. Too bad, as they were perfect in just about every other way, but super-thin isn't worth it to me if the pedals spin on relatively high-friction bushings.

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    According to the guy I spoke with at Twenty6, the drag is mostly due to the 4 o-rings. I've learned to deal with the friction; I really like the platform, machinework, look, and grip on downhill runs.

    Just won an auction for a set of their older model with the Ti spindles, the Rallye (It'll be going on a 700c rigid/hardtail build):
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    Hard to reply to your post without sounding like a flame, but here goes....

    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    @TheRifleman, the 5 pins are insufficient and the design process explained by VP is something that just doesn't happen in the real world. e.g. You don't want your foot to slip on a jump, and then reposition after. Let's take it back to the OT and present candidates for best platform pedals ;-)
    Can we honestly talk about the perfect pedal without also talking about shoes, type of riding being done, ride style, experience level, fitness level, etc.? Maybe you can, thinking that all you need is a gazillion studs in your flats to keep your foot on the pedal but in all my years of riding I've not had much of an issue keeping my feet on a pedal of any kind. I have a hard time keeping my tires on the ground, that's about it!

    The FIVE pins on my VP-59 (have you used these pedals?) and 510's stick together just fine and I do a lot of freeride, DJ and trails. Hell sometimes I think there's glue on my shoes! I don't have this "real world" issue you speak of so I just came in here to present the OP with MY experience and it's that the VP-59 is a killer pedal in my experience with them in the "real world". ymmv

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    I have been a long time DX fan but have used Burtecs Penthouse MK11s and now for the last few years MK111s which have a lower profile!

    These are not the cheapest pedal around but I think Twenty 6s Point Ones etc would be as if not more expensive!

    The key benefits for me have been super reliability, and feel, feel for me is solidity, I feel like I'm still on my moto, they're super grippy, handle all seasons,wet and dry, rocks and mud, for me its a true platform!

    If I was to change Ive long liked what Point One do its different but for me and my huge width/girth of foot its hard for me to change to something else when I have no reason for change, the weight is not a concern to me, the secure feel stiffness and knowing my foot is well protected and will stay on no matter what, everything I need in a pedal this one covers and covers very well for me.

    Sometimes the grip is too much, but you adapt, I use 5:10s wouldn't use anything else either!

    Servicing, super easy to do, I strip them re grease a few times a year, current ones only done 2-3 times over last 2 seasons, I haven't had to replace anything pins either they are allen key from the opposite side, still looking great 2, just such an easy pedal to live with. my all time pedal pick, simple no gimmicks no marketing just works.

    I have DXs but never use em, and have ridden quite a few brands mentioned here, surprised Burgtecs don't come up a bit more, but then its a UK brand and works well for UK conditions, says it all really, also very popular with WC riders not riding sponsored brands, I know one or too an ex BT rider who would rather be riding these than say 50/50s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digipenguin
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    Stupid grippy with just skate shoes. Only had them 2 weeks so can't speak to strength.

    Notice the pins are focused on the axle where your weight is centered.
    They don't look that grippy to me. Pins are too shallow and wide. They also look kinda flmsy, the plates seem awfully thin. I wouldn't want to have a crash with them pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    189 replies and we still haven't answered which is the best flat pedal???
    As you can tell by the thread, there is no best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV11
    As you can tell by the thread, there is no best.
    Say it ain't so!!!???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman2058
    Say it ain't so!!!???

    lol, sorry to be a downer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    Superstar pedals, with cutouts and colored pins. Who has the specs on pedal pins?! Are all threaded holes created equal and are pins interchangeable? Which pin system, grub screw, system is the preferred or best?
    I've been running a pair of these ^^^ HT-made "Superstar Ultra-Mag CNC" pedals on my AM & DH bike for a while now (Black with gold pins FYI, and steel axle... but at only 310g/pair I see little point in going the expensive Ti axles...though it does bring the weight to an insane 260g/pair!!).

    Very light, and really well made. Slightly concavity to its shape which I find nice, and pretty thin for extra clearance. Grip wise, initially they didn't have as much insane grip as I was used to (compared to my NS Legeaters on my street bike) but now that the pins have some wear on top of them they actually grip better, as they are sharper (if that makes sense). I also like the fact that these pins are stronger than the hollow hex threaded-pins, and the bolt head itself stays well intact for later replacement if needed, unlike the hollow hex type pins which get full of crud, deform, and generally seem to get pulled out a lot easier.

    I've smashed these Ultra Mag CNC pedals many times on rocks and the like, without issue (apart from a loss of some colour of course). I will be buying these again - the weight/price and performance/price is brilliant, let alone all the different colour combo's you can chose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starship303
    I've been running a pair of these ^^^ HT-made "Superstar Ultra-Mag CNC" pedals on my AM & DH bike for a while now (Black with gold pins FYI, and steel axle... but at only 310g/pair I see little point in going the expensive Ti axles...though it does bring the weight to an insane 260g/pair!!).

    Very light, and really well made. Slightly concavity to its shape which I find nice, and pretty thin for extra clearance. Grip wise, initially they didn't have as much insane grip as I was used to (compared to my NS Legeaters on my street bike) but now that the pins have some wear on top of them they actually grip better, as they are sharper (if that makes sense). I also like the fact that these pins are stronger than the hollow hex threaded-pins, and the bolt head itself stays well intact for later replacement if needed, unlike the hollow hex type pins which get full of crud, deform, and generally seem to get pulled out a lot easier.

    I've smashed these Ultra Mag CNC pedals many times on rocks and the like, without issue (apart from a loss of some colour of course). I will be buying these again - the weight/price and performance/price is brilliant, let alone all the different colour combo's you can chose from.

    Cheers,
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    Price, and place to purchase them (anywhere aside from superstar themselves, prefer not ordering from across seas)? 260g/pair for the ti spindle is unreal.

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    Well Superstar branded stuff is only available direct from them at http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk. From my experience their postage was good, i had no issues buying them from the other side of the world.

    Interestingly, unlike the more common design available under lots of different names (still a great pedal it has to be said) I've actually not seen this slightly different, lighter Ultra Mag version labelled anything else other than Superstar. Maybe search for HT pedals and see what you get?

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    So creeped this thread for 30 minutes now and all I know is my head hurts.

    I think I've narrowed it down to straitline(s), sunline v one(s), or the budget minded sun ringle zuzu(s)? Haven't seen them mentioned to much except in the first page, but no bad reviews at least thats I saw. Am I missing some weak points on either? Does the V One's hold more mud with all that platform?

    has anybody reviewed the zuzu(s) did I over look them?

    Oh and HT is the restamper or the original? I feel lost..... and scared. I really don't want to regret my first platform pedal decision. haha

    thanks!

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    I just ordered the Nuke Proof Neutron Alloy-Ti Pedal 2011 - Silver - Alloy - Ti Axle. So I'm pretty ripped to try them out.

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    I'm liking my Gravity Light Pedals
    **** Looking for a Sram 9.0SL rear hub *****

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