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    New question here. OPINION: GIANT DH Comp...

    what do people think of this bike...

    ive been leaning away from the RMX for several reasons latly...mainly money and the fact i cant sell my ruckus for as much as id liked to and cant make up the difference i was hoping for (which is a shame coz shes not worth what im going to sell her for) and havnt had a DH bike for more than 4 months so far and its killing me...anyways...

    ive found a great 04' GIANT DH Comp...stock componentry except for an e.13 SRS guide...complete X-9 kit out and upgraded 04 sherman slider...and for a bargain...so i might buy it instead...

    so what do you guys think of it...how do they ride (i need as much info as possible seems as its interstate and i wont be able to test ride it before buying...pics reveal pefect condition though which is good so i dont need to worrie about that) as a single pivot bike...do they create alot of brake jack and if so...is it noticeable enough that ill want a floater...if anything i must admit im concerned about the frame...are they crap or are they just mass produced and actually nice bikes...dave had an AC frame and it was rather thin and the GIANT drop outs or hangers broke constantly on him...he went through 6 this year before he got rid of it...so if any of you guys could offer me any adivce on why to get the bike or if so why not to id greatly appriciate it...

    heres a pic...

    im going to replace the wheels when i get it...but apart form that it has a nice set-up...

    im starting to like the idea...but what do you guys think...

    its a small frame...which is what i would want...

    and just for the hell of it the price im selling the ruckus for is 2100aus and the DH Comp is 3300aus...which is cheap...

    cheers in advance for any help you can offer...
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    Hey BJ. Well, one of my friends has that SAME bike with a similar kit (i think). I've seen him do some nasty stuff on it without any problems, so I'm sure that frame will cause little/no hassle for you. I think Giants are pretty reliable, with my expierences atleast, so I dont think you will have any major problems with it. I've ridden it before, smoooooth ride, it's got a really nice feel to it. I say go for it and enjoy your new DH bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by opiefan3k3
    Hey BJ. Well, one of my friends has that SAME bike with a similar kit (i think). I've seen him do some nasty stuff on it without any problems, so I'm sure that frame will cause little/no hassle for you. I think Giants are pretty reliable, with my expierences atleast, so I dont think you will have any major problems with it. I've ridden it before, smoooooth ride, it's got a really nice feel to it. I say go for it and enjoy your new DH bike
    thanks man...

    ive spoken to the dude who owns it alot and he seems to think its a great bike...so im pretty confident im going to buy it or at least try...

    keep the info cummin...
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    Giant is a local bike manufacture. I live about 20 minuts away from the plant. A lot of people in the area ride and like the bike. The only problem I have heard is tightening the pivots. People don't realize you have to take off the caps then tighten the inards. Great bike though and takes abuse.

    Looks like you have been riding for a year now. If this is the case you might not notice the difference of brake jack. If you do notice then get the floating break. If not then don't buy it.
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    ya i heard that the pivots come loose more than on other bikes, but I would still go for it.
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    yeah, great bike, a lot of locals around here w/ the same one. Is that a Slider + or 6" slider? I have a 152mm (6") slider and don't really like the SPV, but I can deal w/ it, excellent fork other than that.
    As for the mass production, I wouldn't be worried about that, they are hydroformed, and the DH has been around for awhile so all the bugs have been worked out to refine it. Although, if you want more of a fr bike instead of dh specific, I would wait for the new Faith w/ the maestro suspension and 8" of travel and a Marz66, than again, if your getting a deal go w/ that.
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    i think they're awesome bikes, definlty on my list of maybe bikes to get. we're a dealer too . the one problem ive noticed about them is they have sucha huge linkage system which creates two problems. one being the obvious that it cant run in to tons of stuff. the other being the fact that the bb shell is 108mm(im not postive the exact number 108 sounds right though) so before you couldnt ride anything but raceface ISISin there, which isnt such a bad thing. this year race face made the diablous compatiable with it, its actually coming stock on the new comp and team. so that gives you so more options now atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    Giant is a local bike manufacture.
    Uh, No. Giant is a huge Taiwanese corporation that started out building bikes for Specialized and other big companies and now makes bikes in Taiwan for themselves along with many other manufactorers bikes. So your wrong and Giant is giant.

    DH Comps are sweet bikes and would've gotten a DH Team no doubt if i couldn't afford a V-10. I think -BJ would be happier with a DH Comp than a RMX, DH Comps are also pretty light with there build and we all know weight really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSherpa
    and we all know weight really matters.
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    no it doesn't my stinky didn't weigh enough for me so i have some ankle weights wrapped around my top tube. well i guess weight does matter i want more and you want less...

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    Uh, No. Giant is a huge Taiwanese corporation.. So your wrong
    Ever think he might live in Taiwan???
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeSATORI
    Ever think he might live in Taiwan???
    he lives in CA, but i guess theres a plant near him. Regardless, its safe to say its a global company that could crush us mear mortals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zedro
    he lives in CA, but i guess theres a plant near him. Regardless, its safe to say its a global company that could crush us mear mortals.
    in my state alone we have...17 registered dealers that belong to GIANT...there no doubt the biggest bike company...which is kool coz if ever anythign goes wrong it wont be hard to find help or parts...

    anyways...

    cheers for the info so far...sounds like a great bike...cant wait to get it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJ-
    in my state alone we have...17 registered dealers that belong to GIANT...there no doubt the biggest bike company...which is kool coz if ever anythign goes wrong it wont be hard to find help or parts...
    back when i was riding my ATX970 (DS-2 for the yanks), i had a rep come to my house to look at a problem and changed the seatstay bushings for me....
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    no doubt you must have majored in english or something rad!!!

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    giant is the largest bike company in the world, they are made in taiwan.
    I had a 2002 DH team, it was a killer rig I am going back to one for the 2005 season.
    I was very impressed as to how well the bike pedaled even with a fox vanilla shock
    there is a pivot that does come loose a lot but as long as you check it occasionally it works fine the giant is a lot more plush and has more of a racer feel than a RMX. definatly go with the giant

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    BJ, What happened to your Big Hit? Did you break it? I thought Specialized had a great warranty. I remember reading that you loved your bike and thought Big Hits were the best.
    Please don't tell me you got rid of it just because you decided to try something else, I hate those people. Back when I actually had to pay for my bikes I never ever replaced a bike frame untill I broke the one I already had.
    Giant dh bikes are good, what's wrong with the Sun Singletrack rims on it? I only use Sun Rims.
    Keep the Ruckus. If you think you need more travel then get a bmx 24" cruiser and learn to jump and ride with no suspension travel. The Ruckus will feel plusher than yo mommas biggo tiddies after dat!

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    FYI: from the giant-bicycles home page

    giant is global as mentioned:
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    I have run into several people riding them up at Big Bear, and every one of them has been really pleased with the bike. That seems to be the same feedback everyone else in this thread has received, so it's a pretty safe bet that it's true.

    I wouldn't let the Taiwanese thing bother you--my Demo 9 is from Taiwan and my Cannondale Jekyll is "handmade in the USA." From a build-quality perspective, you honestly cannot tell the difference, other than than the fact that Cannondale grinds their welds smooth. That's a nice touch, but it's purely asthetic.

    The only negatives I can recall having heard about the bike are (1) it has a pretty crazy chainline; (2) The linkage hangs below the bottom bracket and is thus more susceptable to damage from bashing stuff; and (3) that the pivots are prone to loosening.

    That said, the chainline is apparently not a problem, so who cares how odd it might appear. As to the linkage damage potential, although I see posts stating the linkage is VULNERABLE to damage, I have never seen a post that states any ACTUAL damage has occured--so there probably isn't a whole lot to be concerned about there either. Finally, as to the linkage loosening, that will only present a problem to those who are unaware of it. All you need to do is consistently check the linkage, and you'll never have a problem.

    None of those issues would cause me to not buy one.

    In sum, if the thing is a good deal, I'd buy it. And if you do, be sure to post the porn.

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    giant

    been riding a dh team for 2 years awsom bike broke it twice big guy and lots o rocks round here giant had replacments in 24 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWISTED
    BJ, What happened to your Big Hit? Did you break it? I thought Specialized had a great warranty. I remember reading that you loved your bike and thought Big Hits were the best.
    Please don't tell me you got rid of it just because you decided to try something else, I hate those people. Back when I actually had to pay for my bikes I never ever replaced a bike frame untill I broke the one I already had.
    Giant dh bikes are good, what's wrong with the Sun Singletrack rims on it? I only use Sun Rims.
    Keep the Ruckus. If you think you need more travel then get a bmx 24" cruiser and learn to jump and ride with no suspension travel. The Ruckus will feel plusher than yo mommas biggo tiddies after dat!
    hahah...

    i wanted to upgrade the fork...but figured it would be cheaper to sell the bike and use some saved money to pay for a whole new better bike with a better fork...turns out ive got more than i bargained for...

    (shaking head)

    and i hate cheap thin rims like single tracks...single tracks especially...doubles are great but singles just suck...especially the pinched version and not the welded ones...

    anyways...


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    I have run into several people riding them up at Big Bear, and every one of them has been really pleased with the bike. That seems to be the same feedback everyone else in this thread has received, so it's a pretty safe bet that it's true.

    I wouldn't let the Taiwanese thing bother you--my Demo 9 is from Taiwan and my Cannondale Jekyll is "handmade in the USA." From a build-quality perspective, you honestly cannot tell the difference, other than than the fact that Cannondale grinds their welds smooth. That's a nice touch, but it's purely asthetic.

    The only negatives I can recall having heard about the bike are (1) it has a pretty crazy chainline; (2) The linkage hangs below the bottom bracket and is thus more susceptable to damage from bashing stuff; and (3) that the pivots are prone to loosening.

    That said, the chainline is apparently not a problem, so who cares how odd it might appear. As to the linkage damage potential, although I see posts stating the linkage is VULNERABLE to damage, I have never seen a post that states any ACTUAL damage has occured--so there probably isn't a whole lot to be concerned about there either. Finally, as to the linkage loosening, that will only present a problem to those who are unaware of it. All you need to do is consistently check the linkage, and you'll never have a problem.

    None of those issues would cause me to not buy one.

    In sum, if the thing is a good deal, I'd buy it. And if you do, be sure to post the porn.
    the info ive recieved so far is great...i guess the bigger and more common brands do have there pros (and alot from the seems of things) and not just cons...

    so how does the linkage come loose...and whats the reason behind it...and which pivot is it...the large one above the BB (one shown in pic) or the smaller one below it...

    cheers for everything so far guys...

    will definatly post pics when i get the sexy thing...
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    What's your beef w/ singletracks?? They are excellent rims, esp. for the price. I guess if your hucking to flat all the time they wouldn't be my first choice though. Also, pinned rims are better than most welded IMO - just look at Arrow DHX's and Atomlab Trailpimps. Proper spoke tension holds them together stronger than welded. Doubletracks are just a wider taller version of the singletracks- crosssection is very similar, just like Double and Singlewides - similar cross-section, just larger dimensions, and therefore much much heavier too.
    anyway, good luck w/ the new rig, I'm sure you'll dig it.
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    I've overheard of a few swayarm crackings while at a couple races. I hear they ride really nice, mtbaction just did a review a few months ago, it got high ratings, but then again it seems like all specialized and giant bikes do in that mag The thing to consider with used bikes (especially dh bikes) is how hard/much did the person ride it before you, you could get it, ride it dh for a month and it cracks, it happens, then when you go to your 1 of 17 dealers their gonna say sorry, your a second owner, new swayarm will cost you blah blah blah. Other than that it looks like a pretty nice build, singletracks will hold for longer than you think if you keep on top of the tension and arent doing those stupid flat drops.

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    i see

    [QUOTE=BJ-]what do people think of this bike...
    well, i'v actually been looking at this bike lately. i mite want to buy a dh rig to add with my p. but so i think if your going to get a good deal on it i'd say sure y not. i'v nvr road one or scene anyone else do so but they seem to be good.

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    i saw two of them today at a race i went to at the you yangs...

    (sigh)

    what an awesome course...

    anyways the bikes look awesome...and are much much beefyer and better looking than i thought they were...and if how the guys who rode them means anything then its an awesome bike...

    as soon as i sell the ruckus...then ill get it...so look forward to some pics very soon...i cant wait...i begin to shake when ever i think about it...

    (how mad it will be to be able to ride agressivly once again)


    Quote Originally Posted by BikeSATORI
    What's your beef w/ singletracks?? They are excellent rims, esp. for the price. I guess if your hucking to flat all the time they wouldn't be my first choice though. Also, pinned rims are better than most welded IMO - just look at Arrow DHX's and Atomlab Trailpimps. Proper spoke tension holds them together stronger than welded. Doubletracks are just a wider taller version of the singletracks- crosssection is very similar, just like Double and Singlewides - similar cross-section, just larger dimensions, and therefore much much heavier too.
    anyway, good luck w/ the new rig, I'm sure you'll dig it.
    im being a snob...much like JM. with boxxers...i can pull reasons out of my ass untill im blue in the face but will never prove anything...i simply dont like them...
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