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    I'm not too sure about those Saint Lever Assemblies. I like the older design better, not sure about these new weirdo brake levers that the new Shimano Line is using, as well as Strokers.
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    I bet those brakes are going to be competitive with Codes and Gustavs, and I wouldn't be surprised if the weight/performance ratio kills everything else out there.

    It all looks really good, an rd with higher spring tension, everything lighter... it'll probably cost a fortune though...

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    I wish they would go ahead and release them so the current style groupo Im about to order would be cheaper.
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    wow that new stuff is lookin good.

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    Good to see that they ditched those stupid Saint special centerlock system with the hubs.

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    not digging the big graphixs on the cranks.....I like stuff low key and clean.....sano baby
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    I like it!

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    I like the cranks. They'ed look awesome on a race DH bike. Maybe not so much on AM/FR/DJ/Urban
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptordude
    I'm not too sure about those Saint Lever Assemblies. I like the older design better, not sure about these new weirdo brake levers that the new Shimano Line is using, as well as Strokers.
    I've been rocking the XTRs since they came out on my XC race bike and I love them. So comfortable and you can definitely feel a difference in the amount of modulation and control they give you.
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    i'm really diggin the brakes. the crank graphics look like they won't last too long.

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    Lookin' good. Shimano is really pulling to get more market share back from Sram. this stuff looks promising.
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    I'm already so stoked on their brakes, I can't imagine it getting better... Nice to see they aren't keeping everything brand specific. I may actually run that derailleur.
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    Not into the gold, but hey thats just cosmetic, the cranks seem interesting, if they are as stiff and reliable as current saints, ill definately be getting some

    p.s. The way they worded the weight comment is slightly ambiguous, I assume they mean they are 100g/90g lighter and dont actually weigh 100g/90g

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    Hmm i like the clean black look of the current cranks, i've never liked big advertisments all over kit, but hey they will still be bombproof i guess!

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    Oh crap, this stuff was made for my Bottlerocket. I think I've found a replacement brakeset when and if I get sick of me Stroker Trails (or if the sexy new Saints just become too tempting ). The rear D looks toight too.

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    Those brakes look very promising. Not a big fan of the logo on the cranks, but other than that:
    Quote Originally Posted by Raptordude
    I'm not too sure about those Saint Lever Assemblies. I like the older design better, not sure about these new weirdo brake levers that the new Shimano Line is using, as well as Strokers.
    It's called radial master cylinders. They've been standard on high end motorcycle brakes for a few years. In theory, they have less mechanical friction in the lever because the linkage between lever and cylinder is reduced, which is supposed to improve modulation and power. They also save some space on the bars.
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    I really, reallyy want those brakess... Does anyone have a clue when they will really be available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Grove
    I really, reallyy want those brakess... Does anyone have a clue when they will really be available?
    It says August '08 on the bottom of that article..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    not digging the big graphixs on the cranks.....I like stuff low key and clean.....sano baby
    I agree with ya, the graphics are gawdy and uneccessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by combatkimura
    Oh crap, this stuff was made for my Bottlerocket. I think I've found a replacement brakeset when and if I get sick of me Stroker Trails (or if the sexy new Saints just become too tempting ). The rear D looks toight too.
    I'll bet you are stoked. You have the pimp raw/gold BR, and these saint bits would be tha shiit on your rig.
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    I like that they did away with the direct axel mount on the rear deraileur, I always hated that on my bike. I don't really care for the graphics, but still looks like they improved everything across the board...
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    deng those are nice ! i should've waited before i got all my gravity dh set up on my bike.

    oh well i like the gravity's too but i couldve gotten a better hook up on those dengit !
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    ". The new crank arm design allows more ankle clearance"

    This has me very interested in the new cranks, if I bash my ankle against the current saint cranks(m800s) again I'm gonna flip..
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    Quote Originally Posted by combatkimura
    Oh crap, this stuff was made for my Bottlerocket. I think I've found a replacement brakeset when and if I get sick of me Stroker Trails (or if the sexy new Saints just become too tempting ). The rear D looks toight too.
    yup with ya there. it's gonna be really hard not to shell out for those brakes. they are beautiful.

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    they are still center lock. i see no 6 bolt pattern on the hubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dowst
    Good to see that they ditched those stupid Saint special centerlock system with the hubs.
    No they didn't. They switched to the same size centerlock that XT uses. The Saint Hub used to have an oversized centerlock that wasn't compatible with any adaptors etc.

    I wasn't able to run Gustavs with the Saint rear hub for this reason.
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    Do not like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjudy13
    No they didn't. They switched to the same size centerlock that XT uses. The Saint Hub used to have an oversized centerlock that wasn't compatible with any adaptors etc.

    I wasn't able to run Gustavs with the Saint rear hub for this reason.
    he was saying that he's glad to see that they ditched the oversize centerlock design that was specific to the 800 series saints and used the xt-size centerlock for the new iteration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain spaulding
    ". The new crank arm design allows more ankle clearance"

    This has me very interested in the new cranks, if I bash my ankle against the current saint cranks(m800s) again I'm gonna flip..
    I don't think you'll have a problem... I never managed to bash my angles off mine.

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    Pretty cool to see them going back to 4-piston design like the old M755.

    I still have no desire to upgrade.

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    i like what shimano did to their saint line.
    but do you still need to run saint hubs to run saint brakes???
    I think that was how it was with the older models, am i right???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreerideMonkey7
    i like what shimano did to their saint line.
    but do you still need to run saint hubs to run saint brakes???
    I think that was how it was with the older models, am i right???
    No. You could run the Saints with 6 bolt ISO rotors before.

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    Saint M810 installed on a Commencal Supreme:

    http://fotos.mtb-news.de/photos/view/81618
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    Do not like.
    Very much agree. Mad that they got rid of the bolt thru.
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    the derailer is sick... friggin tank like. Definitly the most promising thing along with the brakes that I think shimano has done in a long time
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoozinSkin
    the derailer is sick... friggin tank like. Definitly the most promising thing along with the brakes that I think shimano has done in a long time
    Unlike last years der. this new fancy shmancy has to use a hanger, unlike the bolt on, it can be bent, (the hanger).
    I've already taken the trophy, banged Miss America, and gone to Disney Land. You guys ain't gettin shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lelebebbel
    Those brakes look very promising. Not a big fan of the logo on the cranks, but other than that:


    It's called radial master cylinders. They've been standard on high end motorcycle brakes for a few years. In theory, they have less mechanical friction in the lever because the linkage between lever and cylinder is reduced, which is supposed to improve modulation and power. They also save some space on the bars.
    Got it. I wasn't too sure what the new design was all about. I've just heard mixed things about the new levers, not so much the master cylinders.
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    Saw them in person at Otter today.

    Bling Bling to say the least...
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    I like them... a lot.

    Especially the brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    Do not like.
    Also agree with exception to the brake calipers. I will have to go outside the group for the integrated shifter/brake lever combo if I need to replace mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya
    I like them... a lot.

    Especially the brakes.
    i was looking at 4 pot brake options and liked the Hope m4 brakes, but then these came along. sexxxy brakes. might even be a little cheaper too. ya never know.

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    4 pot Saint Brakes!
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    I'm a bit disappointed that the one-piece caliper is gone in favor of a 2 on the 4 pot saint brakes... but I'm sure it's not an issue. I love my saint brakes now, with the new levers and a 4 piston caliper I think I may need to reconsider the use of my tax refund!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWfreeride
    I'm a bit disappointed that the one-piece caliper is gone in favor of a 2 on the 4 pot saint brakes... but I'm sure it's not an issue. I love my saint brakes now, with the new levers and a 4 piston caliper I think I may need to reconsider the use of my tax refund!
    I can assure you that they will most definitally find their way onto my rig... One of them, at least. I'm so stoked on these. I love the feel of the new XTR's, but I'm all about more power

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    Here, 09 Glory? or maybe just 08 with new paint job, but full Saint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tod Says What?!
    Here, 09 Glory? or maybe just 08 with new paint job, but full Saint.
    i heard that the glory frame was supposed to be redesigned for '09. but who knows. good lookin' bike either way.

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    I'm thinking I might have to get some of those cranks. And I might try those brakes instead of ordering codes.
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    i saw it all live at the Seasons premier. the derailur is so hot. they had it all on a custom Seasons Demo.

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