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    New Frame Came Today

    Well I got the brown truck today and inside it was a 2010 Canfield Jedi size large. have all the parts but wheels. Should be fully built by end of next week!

    We will start testing on it the following week. Frame looks sick BTW......





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    That is going to be super sick, Ive always wanted to throw a leg over one of those. Congrats! Build??

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    Edray,

    Thanks can't wait to get it built. The build is below.
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    Nice!

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    Sounds stellar, I need to get my hands/feet on some twenty6 pedals. Did you get them from your LBS or online somewhere?
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    looks dam sweet, is it me or does the canfield frames look like they are made out of steel?
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    Sick looking bike. Stoked to see the reviews of it. Going to sell this one when your done like the V-10 or is this going to be for you?

    Also does MRP make that custom guide or does Canfield just make a backplate for the G2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edray
    Sounds stellar, I need to get my hands/feet on some twenty6 pedals. Did you get them from your LBS or online somewhere?
    Cheers
    PS Nice standover!
    I ordered them direct from 26 I know that Competitive Cyclist also carries them. They are just too pretty I almost dont want to ride them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook1989
    Sick looking bike. Stoked to see the reviews of it. Going to sell this one when your done like the V-10 or is this going to be for you?

    Also does MRP make that custom guide or does Canfield just make a backplate for the G2?

    MRP make that version of the G2 specifically for the Jedi F1. Yes I am selling it after we are done testing it to fund the next frame.

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    did you add any spacers on that upper pulley wheel? looks pretty close to the frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba
    did you add any spacers on that upper pulley wheel? looks pretty close to the frame
    No will keep an eye on it when putting it together this next week.

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    let us know about that
    im running an E13 chainguide with a saint cranks and im still messing around with the spacers and chain line

    congrats on your new machine! its going to be great!
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    I can't wait to see it built, it's going to be sick.
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    Welcome to the Canfield Club! You'll love the Jedi.
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    ianjenn - with the saint cranks, the chainline is 2.5mm farther out than most. (new Saint is 57.5 and old saint and others are 55mm). The hot setup is to space the ring IN at the crank, then you won't need any spacers on the guide or pulley wheel. The spacers come with the chainguide. Try not to use any spacers on the pulley, it will run smoother.

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    This is exactly what I did on my '09 Jedi. Space the chainring in from the cranks and everything fell in place so nicely. I tried other approaches too, but wasn't nearly as happy with how things lined up.

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    by spacing it in 2.5 mm, did the chainring leave the spider housing? i tried putting 2.5mm spacers on the inner side of the crankarm spider but it seems at though the chainring doesnt get the support from the spider bulges

    could anyone please upload a pic of this? even in pm ill be very happy to see how its done
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    It won't have as much direct support from the crank spider, but the support that is lessened is more in the lateral plane, which isn't as critical. Realistically the chainring hardware carries most of the force/stress in the spider/chainring interface.

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    so you just use washers between ring and spider? What size?

    (not at home so can't measure and would like to pick some up on way home for a similar issue I have to fix...)

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    I had some lying around the parts bin. I didn't take the time to get out the micrometer, but I'd guess they were around 2-2.5mm. The ones I used were alloy and fit the outside diameter of the chainring hardware perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godfather
    I had some lying around the parts bin. I didn't take the time to get out the micrometer, but I'd guess they were around 2-2.5mm. The ones I used were alloy and fit the outside diameter of the chainring hardware perfectly.
    Yeah not thickness, but inner/outer dia!

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    If you're headed to the LBS, just use the standard chainring nut for sizing.

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    They come with the G2 guide from MRP. It's a standard spacer for a chainring bolt, like an old System 1 guide used. It's 2.5mm thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    They come with the G2 guide from MRP. It's a standard spacer for a chainring bolt, like an old System 1 guide used. It's 2.5mm thick.
    Lance, how many BB spacers are you using on drive side and non-drive side?

    PS If you put the G2 guide directly against the frame, it comes pretty close to the rear tire. Maybe 3mm of clearance with 2.5" Minion. Any issues with that?
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    this is great information!
    i have an E13 chainguide and didnt get any of those chainring spacers

    now i can make some 2.5mm spacers like pictured and stop messing around with tons of spacers for the pulley and chainguide
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    does the canfield have a 1.5 headtube so you can change the headangle.
    i like them but they seem a bit steep

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    once you get to sag, you can notice the HA being like 63\64 degrees
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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_sloth
    does the canfield have a 1.5 headtube so you can change the headangle.
    i like them but they seem a bit steep
    1 1/8 HT only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba
    once you get to sag, you can notice the HA being like 63\64 degrees
    Does that include sag on the fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_sloth
    does the canfield have a 1.5 headtube so you can change the headangle.
    i like them but they seem a bit steep
    Actually, I think it feels quite balanced with 65 degree HT, it never feels jittery or sloppy, its a pretty butter balance. But for 2010 they changed it to 64 to appease the internets.

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    once you get to sag, you can notice the HA being like 63\64 degrees
    yah, and once you get into sag on a commencial, it sits right around 60, or on an m6 and its the same deal. there is a reason nobody measures HA sagged. Its still steeper sagged or unsagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pslide
    Does that include sag on the fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Actually, I think it feels quite balanced with 65 degree HT, it never feels jittery or sloppy, its a pretty butter balance. But for 2010 they changed it to 64 to appease the internets.



    yah, and once you get into sag on a commencial, it sits right around 60, or on an m6 and its the same deal. there is a reason nobody measures HA sagged. Its still steeper sagged or unsagged.
    I'm thinking there is a difference, though, as the Jedi has more rearward travel than the bikes you're comparing it to, so the HA slackens more per a given shock stroke sag. Now I'm curious to know for sure - I'll measure my large '08 tonight when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser
    I'm thinking there is a difference, though, as the Jedi has more rearward travel than the bikes you're comparing it to, so the HA slackens more per a given shock stroke sag. Now I'm curious to know for sure - I'll measure my large '08 tonight when I get home.
    thats what i meant, by having rearward travel, it actually lengthens the wheelbase at sag, taking the rear wheel more back and by extending the wheel base the HA gets a little slacker than everything you mentioned

    just logically speaking, no need to get aggregated
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    I have the recomended BB spacers, 2 non drive and 1 drive side. I looked closer and have one washer between my G2 and ISCG tabs, did it for the chain lining up into the G2 upper guide but that does help with tire clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    I have the recomended BB spacers, 2 non drive and 1 drive side. I looked closer and have one washer between my G2 and ISCG tabs, did it for the chain lining up into the G2 upper guide but that does help with tire clearance.
    What size spacer are you using between ISCG tabs and G2? That's the piece I need to do.

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    Its a stock washer that also comes with the G2.

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    so with the new saint cranks we should go -
    1 spacer drive side
    2 spacers non drive side on the BB

    and 2.5 mm spacers for the chainring to get it inwards

    no spacers for the pulley wheel and the original 2.5 mm washers of the chainguide?

    did i get it right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba
    so with the new saint cranks we should go -
    1 spacer drive side
    2 spacers non drive side on the BB

    and 2.5 mm spacers for the chainring to get it inwards

    no spacers for the pulley wheel and the original 2.5 mm washers of the chainguide?

    did i get it right?
    No 2.5mm spacers for chainguide. Only for the chainring. I couldn't find other spacers that came with G2, so I tried 1 mm washers between G2/frame, and that seemed to do the trick (0.75mm would have been perfect). I think you can even put it directly against the frame and get away with it.

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    Yes except the spacers for the guide are not 2.5mm, just a standard washer (on the three ISCG tab bolts. Magura uses washers on some of there brakes that come in a variety of ultra thin washers, like a shim. They work great to fine tune the guide spacing just perfect.

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    great to know!

    damnit shimano! couldnt you make a proper crank?

    thank you! finally i can get my chainline properly adjusted

    this thread is great info on the jedi\saint combination
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook1989
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    It is sitting at my office with a Dorado Pro and CC headset on it. With cranks and pedals in a box under it. I am awaiting wheels and a stem should be here early next week from Twenty 6!

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    Frame shot in studio. Has a fork and headset on now.

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    AMAZING shot! that bike is gonna be awesome
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    Ok it is built!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianjenn
    Ok it is built!
    Awesome build, right there!

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    ianjenn, can you throw up some actual angles, bb height, and wheelbase? Thanx.
    Oh, what's it weigh in at?

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    Great build

    I'm loving the look of those Dorado Pro's for some reason, and they are supposed to be great forks. Let us know what you think of it after some riding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y
    ianjenn, can you throw up some actual angles, bb height, and wheelbase? Thanx.
    Oh, what's it weigh in at?
    The bike is a large and weighs 40.13 with tubes. Not too bad.

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    I think! Have to check some more......

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    Second the question about real geometry.
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    Sick!

    Quote Originally Posted by ianjenn
    Ok it is built!

    What a beauty, enjoy!
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    Will be a cool build. Keep an eye on you fork bumpers. If it hits the F1 logo in the gusset it will punch it in. Friend did it on one of his first rides out.
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    Very nice build!
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    2010 Jedi Geo

    Here it is.

    For the fork bumpers, they tend to slide down so start with them pushed all the way down, they'll hit the weld between the DT and the DT/HT gusset. We have seen a few dented at the F1 and one broken out completly from a crash. Unsightly but no effect on strength.
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