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    Most expensive downhill racing bike?

    Hey There!

    I am not sure if this topic had been discussed to death yet but I was wondering what the most expensive downhill racing bike is that the racers use on the world cup circuit?

    The reason I am asking is because one of my friends was watching a world cup downhill broadcast and the commentators mentioned that the bikes cost $50000-$75000. That sounded outrageously expensive given the fact that the weight is not such a critical factor and that they must break parts on the bike quite often.

    Anyways, thanks for any input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro2005
    Hey There!

    I am not sure if this topic had been discussed to death yet but I was wondering what the most expensive downhill racing bike is that the racers use on the world cup circuit?

    The reason I am asking is because one of my friends was watching a world cup downhill broadcast and the commentators mentioned that the bikes cost $50000-$75000. That sounded outrageously expensive given the fact that the weight is not such a critical factor and that they must break parts on the bike quite often.

    Anyways, thanks for any input.

    Pedro
    Probably talking about a one off prototype.

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    they were probly talking about minaars bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhracer1067
    they were probly talking about minaars bike
    Thanks for the responses but I have a couple of more questions:

    Why would minaars bike cost $75K ?

    Also, how much do those bikes usually cost?

    Thanks,

    Pedro

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhracer1067
    they were probly talking about minaars bike

    Thats what I think also, I have seen certain magazines say that is $75,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro2005
    Thanks for the responses but I have a couple of more questions:

    Why would minaars bike cost $75K ?

    Also, how much do those bikes usually cost?

    Thanks,

    Pedro
    His bike would cost that much because it is a one of a kind bike (like the other guy said, it a prototype), that a bike that is mass produced. That is not a bike that you can just go and buy. You can get yourself a great DH bike for less than $5,000.

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    $5,000 to $7,000 would be accurate. As everyone said, the Hondas are sometimes quoted at being called 75k, but they are prototypes, so it's really not a fair comparison. Aside from its prototype status, the next most significant portion of the cost of that bike comes from its very unique transmission.
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    Thanks guys!

    That explains it.

    Those commentators must have been referring to that single bike or they were simply idiots.

    Thanks again,

    Pedro

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    expense o' bike

    On a 75k bike, you have to consider the high paid engineers, modeling software, welder, materials, material working (extrusion, monocoque-ing), custom jigs, wholesale markup, retail markup. The list goes on and on. All of that goes into one bike.

    Granted they already own the engineers, software, welder, materials, jigs, metal working, and the rest. But for the most part, it's just Honda propoganda.

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    Well, if we're talking foes....www.foesracing.com
    The DH frame is $3,200.
    Their DH fork is $2,300 I think.
    So that's $5,500 before you even start adding components.

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    the new Nicolai frames are like 6500 euros i think they take the cake for publicly available bikes

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    How can the bike be "worth" $75000 if no one can buy it? (it's a prototype).
    Wouldn't that make it either priceless or worthless?

    They might as well just add up the salary of every engineer and janitor who was around when the thing was built. "This bike is worth 1 million dollars, because 20 people who all make $50K/year looked at it."

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    the honda bike costs like 30k, i saw it MbA

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog117
    the honda bike costs like 30k, i saw it MbA
    I think I remember seeing that also, and that makes the most sense for me. I mean, this is Honda, they have some of the most effiecent manufacturing ways in the world out of all the car companies as far as being able to make great stuff at pretty low prices. With that comes tons of engineers, R&D, labs for testing, cheap materials, etc.... So I bet that if they gave a group of engineers the project as a side project to work on but not completely envelop their work environments that they could develop it for not too much.... IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog117
    the honda bike costs like 30k, i saw it MbA
    HAHAHA you saw it in MBA so it must be true!

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    Well ..
    This is the most expensive frame that I find and is"only" 6000 bux...
    Don't think that there is a bike that cost 50.000 dollars...if so, who is gonna buy it here..!

    http://www.monkamoo.com/Catalog/Ebay...eontstebay.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    How can the bike be "worth" $75000 if no one can buy it? (it's a prototype).
    Wouldn't that make it either priceless or worthless?
    the worth is based on how much $$$ it would take to replace it. The prototype i built is probably worth 10-15Kcnd, but the value on the otherhand is alot less.

    as for the fluctuating cost of the Honda bike, remember that their were 3 different versions, one of which had that crazy CVT tranny in it (the others with internal cog/derailler type system).
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    Besides what zedro said above, you need to remember that the frame (or at least one of them) was carbon fiber cryogenically bonded to aluminum (or was it titanium). They used cooled liquid hydrogen to bond the two togather ( a technique barowed from f1 racing) that process alone (and developing it) cost s much as 30k. SO maybe your raw materials cost is 10-15k *(as zedro said) but the processes used to make the frame are also extremely expensive. And you also consider the amount of r&d needed, tats costs money, as well as the fact that each omne of the honda bikes is completely hand crafted, no mass production = a hell of a lot more expensive. Honda (well not technicaly) also had to pay showa for there r&d of the fork and rear shock. Though they have an extremely thuro knowledge of motocross shocks its an all new ball game when ur dealing with something that ways 40 lbs. Bottem line, is if you expected to purchase one, be prepaired to spend 75k, thats how much it takes to build and design, then thats how much its worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-team
    zero said .
    Oh snap!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    Oh snap!!!
    sounds like someone with a new identity has an old grudge....
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslingger
    no doubt you must have majored in english or something rad!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedro
    sounds like someone with a new identity has an old grudge....
    Any ideas who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    Any ideas who?
    well the names in his sig dont ring a bell. Don't really care either....
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslingger
    no doubt you must have majored in english or something rad!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedro
    well the names in his sig dont ring a bell. Don't really care either....
    Cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    Cool.
    Word.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslingger
    no doubt you must have majored in english or something rad!!!

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    im lost
    chode1: dude I cant nail that road gap
    jong2: yah dude.
    chode2: dudes, if we had a team...
    jong1: yeah just like on that Disney movie!
    chode1: chix would dig it and wed get layd
    chode2: everyone except you that is
    jong2: yeah lets be the Paris Hilton Death Squad
    chode2: PHOQUE YEAH!
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    Yeah, sho do seem like it somedays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser
    Yeah, sho do seem like it somedays.
    i'd work for a progressive company like Honda over any north american tech giant anyday
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    no doubt you must have majored in english or something rad!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedro
    i'd work for a progressive company like Honda over any north american tech giant anyday
    I am selling my "limited" Azonic Recoil with a Shiver and Saint cranks for the small price of $76,000. Cash gets a 10% discount
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    How can the bike be "worth" $75000 if no one can buy it? (it's a prototype).
    Wouldn't that make it either priceless or worthless?

    They might as well just add up the salary of every engineer and janitor who was around when the thing was built. "This bike is worth 1 million dollars, because 20 people who all make $50K/year looked at it."

    (answer: Who Cares anyway?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedro
    Word.
    zero, get it right. Its WERD, not word.

    Jeez, i expect better from a moderator...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bull
    zero, get it right. Its WERD, not word.

    Jeez, i expect better from a moderator...



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    Here's a pic of both the most expensive and tallest DH bike Go-ride has every built. The retail on it was between $10,000 and $11,000.

    It features a Karpiel Apocalypse frame with Avalanche rear shock and an Avalanche Mountain 10 fork. The frame and fork alone are $7K+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott@GO-RIDE.com
    Here's a pic of both the most expensive and tallest DH bike Go-ride has every built. The retail on it was between $10,000 and $11,000.

    It features a Karpiel Apocalypse frame with Avalanche rear shock and an Avalanche Mountain 10 fork. The frame and fork alone are $7K+.

    Ohh ohh and it comes with Krispy too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tame Ape
    Ohh ohh and it comes with Krispy too!
    geez, talk about a high maintenance purchase....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zedro
    geez, talk about a high maintenance purchase....
    and 24 inch rims and tires
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    and 24 inch rims and tires
    Possibly, but Krispy is more a Spud Webbs then a Shaq...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott@GO-RIDE.com
    Here's a pic of both the most expensive and tallest DH bike Go-ride has every built. The retail on it was between $10,000 and $11,000.

    It features a Karpiel Apocalypse frame with Avalanche rear shock and an Avalanche Mountain 10 fork. The frame and fork alone are $7K+.

    jeez, first the intro to Plush 2, and now this... what's Krispy gonna do next, hire an agent?

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    Told you guys Karpiel's were really expensive and nice. There is some guy on ridemonkey selling the frame for $1,200 of course it has less travel is old and beaten on though. Nice HIGH bike! Cool!

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