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    Metal cable housing?

    Where can i get metal cable housing? I'm starting to see some damage to the hydro cables on my Stinky and I'm wondering if metal housing is the way to go. Does anyone have them on their bike? and if so whats the deal? do they just fit over the existing cable or replace it?

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    just go for a goodridge

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    Most cable housing is metal, but hydro brakes do not use cables.
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    They replace it, since they are hydraulic brakes it's more of a hose than housing. Lots of people use them, I might have to pick up some for my stinky too, as mine are showing some wear. There are tons of debates over them, just use the search to find them.

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    to be honset, I've nevery heard of metal casing which goes on the outside of the hose. maybe you can get it though. but really, just buy a goodridge kit and they will last for years and years - plus they have metal braid which will stop it from tearing and increase performance.
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    agree on Goodridge

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamjtriggs
    just go for a goodridge
    And you get the additional benefit of some slightly increased braking power because the fluid passage expands less than most hoses.
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    The older Shimano XTs had braided steel hoses.They rattled loudly and would eat through a bike frame. If you want metal hoses be sure to get a some with a plastic coating.
    The carbon colored Groodrich lines look pretty sweet. They also have optional colored aluminum fittings to match your bike.

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    Performance gains from a Goodrich hose are negligible, most affects are from a proper bleed.

    Braided SS lines are much more flexible though, and less likely to kink, tear, etc.

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    I disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    Performance gains from a Goodrich hose are negligible, most affects are from a proper bleed.

    Braided SS lines are much more flexible though, and less likely to kink, tear, etc.
    Obviously opinions will come into play here, and also it may depend on the particular brake system they're installed on. I put a set of these on one of my Bullits (Hayes Mags) mainly for the bling factor...coming from racing motorcycles, I thought all performance brake lines ought to be braided lines...and they pretty much are. Anyway, I didn't expect any noticeable braking power...I just knew they would be superior in durability. Well, I did feel the difference. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that perhaps some of you who have not noticed a slight braking power increase are running 8" rotors front and rear. I've long used an 8" on the front but was holding off on the rear...still using 6". I was getting to the point where I wasn't totally happy with the 6" rear on my Bullit as far as power. That extra length, extra fluid, and 6" rotor was just a little weak. The Goodridge lines allowed the 6" rear setup to be more than adequate...and this was because of less hose bulge for that long length of brake hose. My front 8" was already very strong...8" rotor and short brake hose is ideal anyway.

    I think there is a discernable difference on many brake systems. They probably won't be as noticeable on an 8" front and rear rotor setups. Also they are more durable than plastic hoses for wear and for crashes. The downside...they are expensive.

    On a side note, two other guys at the shop have also installed them on their bikes with similar results...and neither of these guys are "bling" oriented. One has Magura Louise FR hydros, and the other has those older XT twin piston calipers.

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    they also eat up yur frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamjtriggs
    just go for a goodridge
    yep .....those cables are top line
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    Sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by azonicrider188a
    they also eat up yur frame
    if you don't know how to route them or secure them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Obviously opinions will come into play here, and also it may depend on the particular brake system they're installed on. I put a set of these on one of my Bullits (Hayes Mags) mainly for the bling factor...coming from racing motorcycles, I thought all performance brake lines ought to be braided lines...and they pretty much are. Anyway, I didn't expect any noticeable braking power...I just knew they would be superior in durability. Well, I did feel the difference. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that perhaps some of you who have not noticed a slight braking power increase are running 8" rotors front and rear. I've long used an 8" on the front but was holding off on the rear...still using 6". I was getting to the point where I wasn't totally happy with the 6" rear on my Bullit as far as power. That extra length, extra fluid, and 6" rotor was just a little weak. The Goodridge lines allowed the 6" rear setup to be more than adequate...and this was because of less hose bulge for that long length of brake hose. My front 8" was already very strong...8" rotor and short brake hose is ideal anyway.

    I think there is a discernable difference on many brake systems. They probably won't be as noticeable on an 8" front and rear rotor setups. Also they are more durable than plastic hoses for wear and for crashes. The downside...they are expensive.

    On a side note, two other guys at the shop have also installed them on their bikes with similar results...and neither of these guys are "bling" oriented. One has Magura Louise FR hydros, and the other has those older XT twin piston calipers.
    from friends....there is a noticable difference on 8 inch rotors too
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    Oh really?...

    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    from friends....there is a noticable difference on 8 inch rotors too
    Well, Duuuh! Now Bob...I gotta ask you...what in the world made you think I don't know that 8" rotors are superior in braking power to an 6" rotor?

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    He's not riding. Thus his heart isn't able to beat fast/hard enough to force blood through his lard congested arteries to his brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azonicrider188a
    they also eat up yur frame
    no more than any other hose - goodridges have durable plastic coating on top of the stainless braid. even if they did, as tnc said only the bike builder causes cable rub, and you should use patches if there is any hose touching the frame or fork.

    as for performance, i didn't notice a huge difference from the standard hayes hose. this is mainly because I didn't have the hoses on at the same time. if you took a brake system with a standard hose and a brake system with a goodridge and tested at the same time it would be easier to see a difference - but then a lot of it is down the bleed in the first place.

    still my opinion is for the goodridge, mainly for durability and they look dam good too.

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    Sounds like you need to go to the LBS. Dont try to install "metal cables" yourself.

    another tip, while you are installing the new SS lines (stainless steel), run the new line inside clear vacuum line to 1) protect the bikes paint and 2) maybe protect the line from a cut or kink in a crash.



    this is the type stuff i used. comes on a spool at the local hardware store. then i used shrink tubing at the end to keep dirt or moisture from working its way up the end of the tubing.


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    M1 joel had a good idea if you dont want to spend $110 on a full set of goodridge hoses. You could buy standard hose and do what he did for added protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Well, Duuuh! Now Bob...I gotta ask you...what in the world made you think I don't know that 8" rotors are superior in braking power to an 6" rotor?
    I guess you didn't understand....using 8 inch rotors and switching to Goodridge lines there is a noticable difference too
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamjtriggs
    M1 joel had a good idea if you dont want to spend $110 on a full set of goodridge hoses. You could buy standard hose and do what he did for added protection.

    you can do the same for brakes that you do not want to disconnect. just slit the tubing along the whole length and snap it over your brake line, secure with a few small zip ties. Works just as good.

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