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    Installing something need help

    I am about to install my cassette to my rear rim, is there anything I need to do or grease anyhting particular? I heard something about the freehub splines, is that the actual hub itself? Otherwise it seems pretty clear and I have all the right tools, so please let me know.

    Thanks, Shredder111

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    I would not attach a cassette to a rim. I would consider attaching it to the rear hub.

    no need to grease, just slide it on and torque it down.

    Quote Originally Posted by shredder111
    I am about to install my cassette to my rear rim, is there anything I need to do or grease anyhting particular? I heard something about the freehub splines, is that the actual hub itself? Otherwise it seems pretty clear and I have all the right tools, so please let me know.

    Thanks, Shredder111

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    It doesn't hurt to put a little grease on the freehub and lock ring threads.

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    I've never heard of anyone greasing the freehub itself, or seen a reason to do so, but a little grease on the lockring would be a good idea.

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    I put a thin film of grease (or copper anti-seize if it's a ti hub body). it doesn't hurt anything, and aids in cassette removal later.

    but i don't see a need to grease the hub it's self.. unless you need to rebuild it. but just on the freehub body.
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    Just grease the whole bike, front to rear, before you ride it. You put spokes/nipples into your damn rim, not the cassette - that goes on the cassette body which is part of the hub.

    For the love of christ just take the bike to a shop to have them put it together. Let them know what you were thinking of doing to it so they know what sort of headache they are saving themselves from later on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    Just grease the whole bike, front to rear, before you ride it. .
    HA, haha. Good thinking! I think I will take that advice and use it when I build the R9 next time I am home. All the parts are on the way or being built as we speak.

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    Actually, I would love to see a photo of the cassette attached to the rear rim........???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtails Are Better
    I've never heard of anyone greasing the freehub itself, or seen a reason to do so, but a little grease on the lockring would be a good idea.
    I've been doing it at all the shops. And so have the other mechanics. It doesn't hurt, it keeps the cassette from seizing on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    I've been doing it at all the shops. And so have the other mechanics. It doesn't hurt, it keeps the cassette from seizing on.
    I've been working in a shop for a few years and havn't seen anyone do this, and havn't seen a siezed on cassette. Like I said, I can't think of a good reason not to, but I don't think it's nessicary either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jckuretich
    Actually, I would love to see a photo of the cassette attached to the rear rim........???
    you guys are all as$holes, it works GREAT!
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    Didn't you read the sticker on that shock? It said not to do whatever you did.

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    You are at the point where you should check the hub bearings for proper grease and bearing tension. Do this before you put your cassette on. It does not hurt to put a light coat of grease on the freehub body. It may only help keep it from rusting, but it sure does not hurt anything.

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    meh

    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    Just grease the whole bike, front to rear, before you ride it. You put spokes/nipples into your damn rim, not the cassette - that goes on the cassette body which is part of the hub.

    For the love of christ just take the bike to a shop to have them put it together. Let them know what you were thinking of doing to it so they know what sort of headache they are saving themselves from later on....
    i disagree. if he doesn't know how to install a cassette, then he should learn. it's a good thing to know, like all bike maintenance, and it's not rocket science.

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    Cassette lock ring torque?

    no need to grease, just slide it on and torque it down.[/QUOTE]

    After reading the posts, I'm still not clear whether or not to put grease on the freehub. I am installing a 9 speed cassette with titanium cogs on a Crossmax SL wheel (hub). I'd really like to do the job myself, but what's this *&^%^ about torque??? Do I need a torque wrench? How many ftlbs of force?

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    Do not need a torque wrench. Just make it nice and tight.

    It does not hurt to apply a little grease to the freehub.

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    You also do not need to apply grease to the freehub. Just make sure it is free of debris.

    It does not hurt to use a torque wrench and torque to the manufacture specification.



    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    Do not need a torque wrench. Just make it nice and tight.

    It does not hurt to apply a little grease to the freehub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    I've been doing it at all the shops. And so have the other mechanics. It doesn't hurt, it keeps the cassette from seizing on.

    dissimilar metal corrosion. a small amount of grease goes a looooooong way

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    You also do not need to apply grease to the freehub. Just make sure it is free of debris.

    It does not hurt to use a torque wrench and torque to the manufacture specification.
    Try reading. IT DOES NOT HURT.

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    Try reading - IT DOES NOT HURT to use a torque wrench either.........

    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    Try reading. IT DOES NOT HURT.

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    You do not need to grease the splines, I have removed and installed literally thousands of cassettes and have never had an issue of not being able to remove the cassette due to metal corrosion causing the cassette to bond to the freehub. Grease the threads however... little or a lot it doesn't matter just remember to wipe away the excess. As far as torquing it down goes, I usually stick my cassette tool upside down (splines pointing up) in a vise, lightly thread on the lock ring, turn the wheel over onto the cassette tool, and tighten the cassette on by spinning the wheel clockwise... stop when it gets hard to turn (you'll feel notches as you thread it on, when the notches become harder to achieve, stop).


    Congratulations, you've just installed a cassette.

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    Now the question is do I grease the threads of the bolts that I use to mount my vice to my workbench?

    Quote Originally Posted by his dudeness
    You do not need to grease the splines, I have removed and installed literally thousands of cassettes and have never had an issue of not being able to remove the cassette due to metal corrosion causing the cassette to bond to the freehub. Grease the threads however... little or a lot it doesn't matter just remember to wipe away the excess. As far as torquing it down goes, I usually stick my cassette tool upside down (splines pointing up) in a vise, lightly thread on the lock ring, turn the wheel over onto the cassette tool, and tighten the cassette on by spinning the wheel clockwise... stop when it gets hard to turn (you'll feel notches as you thread it on, when the notches become harder to achieve, stop).


    Congratulations, you've just installed a cassette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    Try reading - IT DOES NOT HURT to use a torque wrench either.........
    It doesn't hurt when you jump off a 10-story building. REALLY. Try it.

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    Thats awesome......good to see its working for you. Thanks for the photo. you shut my ass up. Happy riding

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    Grease on threads only, not on splines. Grease attracts dirt, dirt causes wear/slop, so yes there can be harm if you grease them (tho the likelyhood of that are probably up there with the cassette corroding to the spline, LMFAO! Still there is absolutely NO reason to grease the spline).

    Have FUN!

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    Uh huh. As long as you grease up first, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    It doesn't hurt when you jump off a 10-story building. REALLY. Try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086
    Grease on threads only, not on splines. Grease attracts dirt, dirt causes wear/slop, so yes there can be harm if you grease them (tho the likelyhood of that are probably up there with the cassette corroding to the spline, LMFAO! Still there is absolutely NO reason to grease the spline).

    Have FUN!

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    Not exposed. No reason NOT to grease the splines.

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    There's no seal there, they are exposed, and if you've ever taken one off that had been greased up it's covered in dirt. Wish I would have had a pic of that one I had about a month ago.
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    By that logic, pedals and seatposts should be covered in dirt too. There are no seals around those.

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    sure, a little grease on this wouldnt hurt.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    By that logic, pedals and seatposts should be covered in dirt too. There are no seals around those.
    Uhm, just so you have the opportunity to get your 8,900th post (congrats btw) with another comeback...

    Clamped seatposts have a tolerance FAR tighter than a cogset on the freehub spline and yes, my Time clipless are sealed - sealed bearings and rubber seal on the outside where the spindle fits in. Now my Truvativ platforms are not and, well, after 3 rides the bearings seize so I pull them apart, clean and regrease which is really starting to get old, LOL!

    Have FUN!

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    Pedal spindle. The threads that go into the crank. I'm pretty sure there's no seal around that. Nor is there a seal around my bottom bracket threads. Hey, there's no seal around my crank/spindle interface either!

    You're right, seatposts are to a tighter tolerance, and the clamp squeezes the top shut. But I've pulled off my cassettes and the grease was the same color as when I put it on. No, you don't HAVE to grease it, but it doesn't hurt.

    I just like to give you guys a hard time.

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