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    heres the issue, Dobermann vs. EVIL imp.

    well I think I'm finally narrowing the frame choices down for my new build to two choices, the dobermann moloose and the Evil imperial. Heres the lowdown.

    Imperial: roughly $800

    Tough as nails, looks amazing, costs about $100 more than the dob frame, and is difficult to find (out of stock lots of places and go-ride.com says the imp line won't be available till later this fall with minor changes to the frame).

    Dobermann moloose: Roughly $700

    not quite as tough as the imp, but the dobermann guys say that if I break the frame in two years, then they'd custom make me a new frame that I definitely couldn't break for free. Very cool company, great CS and stuff like that. I love the look and the cutom colors.
    www.dobermannbikes.com (i couldn't get a pic of the moloose but you can find them at the dob website)

    what would you guys do, keep in mind that money is sort of an issue and I'll hopefully be running it SS with a boxxer ride up front (I love the idea of an adjustable travel DC fork)

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    forgot to mention that I'll be doing mostly DJ, urban, and DS stuff, with the occasional DH trip

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    go with the dob for sure.

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    look into an STP
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    look into an STP
    what can you tell me about STPs I've looked into them and just never felt impressed. But then again I didn't look too deeply into them.

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    I vote imperial, I love that frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomrcrkhsbiker
    I vote imperial, I love that frame
    i would pretty much go that route but I can't find them in stock anywhere. And that whole go-ride notice had me wondering if they weren't going to be available anywhere for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickqid
    i would pretty much go that route but I can't find them in stock anywhere. And that whole go-ride notice had me wondering if they weren't going to be available anywhere for a while.
    I just checked and beyond bikes has them in stock for $775 bucks ---> http://www.beyondbikes.com/bb/ItemMa...l&MatrixType=1

    Try calling Unreal Cycles too, they might have them in stock. I also checked ride-this.com, They are out of stock at the moment but you could call and ask when they'll have 'em.

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    Dobbermann. Canadian hand made. Yea ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummings
    Dobbermann. Canadian hand made. Yea ya!
    thats what I was thinking, and that dobermann warranty is amazing! ...I really wish I could get on Evil's website....

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    ive found used imp frames for like 400 bucks
    Just ride.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman
    ive found used imp frames for like 400 bucks
    where have you found these frames, I've been looking, and I suppose that lack of a warranty issue with used imps wouldn't be bad as most all reviews say they are bombproof. Any info on where to find used imps?

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    Well I just happen to be living in boston where there is a large contingent of Evil sponsored riders as well as their headquarters so often its just browsing the local forums. get at me via PM or something and I'll see if i can help you out
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    Quote Originally Posted by cummings
    Dobbermann. Canadian hand made. Yea ya!
    the Evil Imperial is the same...


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    I have a white Evil IMP that I have ridden like 6 or so times in the last year!!! It is in really good cond. I may be willing to sell it. I need to get a new derailure hanger for it though. Where do you live???? It would be frame, Fork 2003 Manitou Breakout + 7" single crown, headset and post!!!!

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    P.M.s sent to both you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickqid
    P.M.s sent to both you guys.
    Dude. Call EVIL. Are crew had the same problem trying to find a Evil D.O.C., Every shop we called said NO all gone.

    One call to EVIL, oh ya we have a couple right here, what's your CC #. Week later on the doorstep. I don't know but It can't get any eaiser than that.

    And $800 for a hardtail frame I hope you can throw down, don't let it go to waste.

    Goodluck!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by #1ORBUST
    Dude. Call EVIL. Are crew had the same problem trying to find a Evil D.O.C., Every shop we called said NO all gone.

    One call to EVIL, oh ya we have a couple right here, what's your CC #. Week later on the doorstep. I don't know but It can't get any eaiser than that.

    And $800 for a hardtail frame I hope you can throw down, don't let it go to waste.

    Goodluck!!
    meh, i don't want to hold back on the frame and have one crack on me. I'm probably going to beat it up good.

    as for calling evil, does anyone know the number, their website is down,

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    Here is the shot of my bike. Obviousley fully biult!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianjenn
    Here is the shot of my bike. Obviousley fully biult!!!
    I would enjoy buying your bike, I pm'ed you my email address, let me know whats going on.

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    The imp is hot, but it must be a heavy mofo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianjenn
    Here is the shot of my bike. Obviousley fully biult!!!
    BEAST...thats beautiful the doberman bikes look sweet to and same with the warranty
    . If moneys an issue go with the DOB.
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    Yeah w/those 321 and DH tubes and tires it was like 36lbs or so!!! I have lighter wheels on it now and it is like 33lbs!!!

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    seriously go with the dobermann

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    All get you the # for Evil tomorrow around 8:00. Is it just me but why dose the crown on that fork looks backwards to me. I know im a MZ boy but what the??
    Hardtail downhill
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    am i correct when I assume that I need not worry about breaking an imp? aren't they sort of bombproof like the morphine?

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    yea, you could run a fox 40 or a 888 or similar style fork on an imp and not break it.
    Just ride.....

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    I think I have a pic on an imp with a super monster... Never mind.

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    Get the evil. The dobermans are nice, and the warranty is good, but with the evil you won't have to worry about needing one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaky69
    I think I have a pic on an imp with a super monster... Never mind.
    yea, I can't get the pic to work for some reason, but its on this thread

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...=evil+imperial

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaky69
    I think I have a pic on an imp with a super monster... Never mind.
    yea, I can't get the pic to work for some reason, but its on this thread

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...=evil+imperial

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    What about a Morphine??? Here's a few off of Pinkbike.com buy/sell.
    2003 Yellow Small $400cdn- http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/188169/
    2005 Red Medium $450usd- http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/191298/

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    EVIL Has a Warrenty To. People are sounding like they don't. They have CRASH REPLACEMENT. The warrenty card says. If this Frame brakes we will fix it or give you a new one at, I think it's NO Charge or like $100.. BUT we will only do this once so learn from your mistakes.
    Hardtail downhill
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    tresspassing, thievery and poaching is all part of a DH'ers life

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    I say go with the Evil Imperial frame

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    Lickqid you got a PM
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    Evil Imperial = Sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xKREDx
    I say go with the Evil Imperial frame
    I say you stop bringing up old dead threads. Really, theres no point to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xray
    I say you stop bringing up old dead threads. Really, theres no point to it.
    Just a dumbass n00b looking to raise his post count.

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    My vote goes for the Imperial too. I've been riding and abusing mine since '04 and have had no problems with it, even with different long travel forks on it.
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    Always loved the Imperial in matt black (preferably with Super Monster Ts :P )

    My vote's for the Imperial anyway.
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