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    Headset Installation Tools, Help please.

    Hey guys,
    If you saw my post in the other thread, you know why I'm doing this.

    Anyway, what tools are required to ream/face the headtube and install the headset, and cut the steerer tube?

    If you could link me to the specific tool on www.parktool.com that would be great.
    Thanks

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    bring it to the lbs to ream and face it. while your their just have them install the headset. its not worth the dough to buy the facer for one bike(park tool reamer is $400).. i just used a pipe cutter for the steer tube. hacksaw and guide work also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddy_ryder
    bring it to the lbs to ream and face it. while your their just have them install the headset. its not worth the dough to buy the facer for one bike(park tool reamer is $400).. i just used a pipe cutter for the steer tube. hacksaw and guide work also.
    True.... But every bike I get in the future will need it as well (most likely) so I'm thinking I might as well just buy everything. Or I may just go to the LBS.

    EDIT: Damn, this is ghey, looks like I'm going to the LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddy_ryder
    bring it to the lbs to ream and face it. while your their just have them install the headset. its not worth the dough to buy the facer for one bike(park tool reamer is $400).. i just used a pipe cutter for the steer tube. hacksaw and guide work also.
    How much do you think they will charge me to ream and face/install the headset?

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    LBS is best but here is an idea

    <img src="https://www.booboodog.net/images/headset-press.gif">
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    i dont know why you would need to ream it anyway. every modent bike comes with a faces headtube nowadays. but it should be like 30 or 40 at most

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebikedoctor33
    i dont know why you would need to ream it anyway. every modent bike comes with a faces headtube nowadays. but it should be like 30 or 40 at most
    because its a good idea to, helps everything work properly. i don't want to go to your bike shop if you don't ream sh!t.

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    You can make a tool like SMT posted to press the cups in. As far as facing the head tube it should be fine. Save your money, it's not worth it.

    http://www.parktool.com/products/det...1&item=HTR%2D1

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    Yeah I need to buy a headset in the near furture and I cant put it in myself... I just feel like a d!ck going to the LBS with a online bought part for them to install, but I guess it doesnt matter all too much as long as I dont say that I got it online...
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    we've had to fave one headtube in the past year. the steerer never comes in contact with the tube and the headset smooths out and deformities underneath it so there is no need.

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    I use a pice of 2X4 and a hammer to install my headsets... NEVER A PROBLEM
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoastHucker
    I use a pice of 2X4 and a hammer to install my headsets... NEVER A PROBLEM
    you and i both

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    Do that with a Chris King headset and Standard 125R frame...


    Splintered a few pressure treated 2x4's

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    I had a minor headseat nightmare today. I have an AC with a cane creek sealed bearing internal headset that was starting to make noises. I took the fork off the bike, and out pours a cascade of twisted aluminum and ball bearings. the thing had totally disintegrated, and had also managed to destroy the cup that the internal headset sits in. had to pound it all out of there and get a set of reducers. Tomorrow I get to buy a new standard headset and see if my **** is ovalized or not. .

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    No need to ream or face your headtube unless it's noticeably out.

    I've seen people press them in using a block of wood and a mallet, it works, but you got to make sure it goes in evenly.

    The picture SMT posted up is a better idea.

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    JensonUSA has a nifty headset removal tool, and you can purchase the one someone else purchased.

    Taking it to a LBS would solve everything, but require more dinero. Other then that I would just reccomend cleaning the hell out of your headtube to prep it. I'm kinda iffy with Headsets....
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoastHucker
    I use a pice of 2X4 and a hammer to install my headsets... NEVER A PROBLEM
    I've used the 2x4 method on every bike I've built also, and never had a problem either.

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    For a headset removal tool, a piece of tubing or conduit works just fine. Cut slots in the end, and bend them out.

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    I use a old T handle standard screwdriver for removal, works wonderfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt
    How much do you think they will charge me to ream and face/install the headset?
    I'm pretty sure I have a headset press at my house. I'll check for you when I get home today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt
    because its a good idea to, helps everything work properly. i don't want to go to your bike shop if you don't ream sh!t.
    most frames are faced (not reamed or chased) PRIOR to paint. EVERY frame should be faced and chased - reaming not nec, but why not.

    Chris King will not warraty their headset if it was pressed into an unprepared frame, external bearing BBS will often have binding problems if you dont face and chase the BB.


    Stick to your gunz Matt! People have been cutting corners for years on that. Believe it or not, creaks and cracked frames result from issues that would be avoided by proper frame prep.

    And dont buy the tool unless your an experienced and enthised mechanic, you will RARELY use it. I believe the tool to face and ream the headtubes is 600+. You can get the BB chaser with a facing bit for <250 tho.... the full BB facing set is more tho.

    I saw another company selling prep tools, highly rated/reviewd for ~50% of what Parks cost. That said Park RULES and I am planning on replacing most of my aging tools with a PK57 set this year and some add ons... Id love the MK-120 which includes the prep tools and a plethora of others, but is ~4000 and Im not working on that many bikes...

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    This is straight out of the Park Tool site for the ream tool.

    [Quote] There are cases when a reamer is required to clean out or increase the diameter of the head tube. Most times however, facing of the head tube for good cup fit is the objective. In this case, reaming is not necessary and the pilots can be used in place of the reamers to keep the tool straight and create a faced head tube.

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    Just installed my 1st headset using SMT's method. $3 for a bolt/nut and spacers compared to $20 at the LBS. Used the same principal when installing new bearing on my frame but on a smaller scale. Saved $50 compared to what the LBS was going to charge to install 4 bearings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    LBS is best but here is an idea

    <img src="https://www.booboodog.net/images/headset-press.gif">

    THAT...IS...SWEET! I'm going to Home Depot today!!! Wood, old leather wallets, and nylon cutting boards and a hammer are what I have been using for years with no issues whatsoever, just a bit of a pain in the azz. That is such a good idea SMT!

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    Good thing SMT knows how to use this site.

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    For the record, the bolt/washers headset cup thing wasn't SMT's idea, he's just a GIF thief! A poster from this site who goes by SpeedhubNate or something of that sort made that GIF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coma13
    For the record, the bolt/washers headset cup thing wasn't SMT's idea, he's just a GIF thief! A poster from this site who goes by SpeedhubNate or something of that sort made that GIF.

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    Another option along the line of the bolt and washer method for installing headsets is to use a large C-clamp (10 inch C-clamp will be bigg enough for most frames) and a few pieces of plywood. It works great plus you get a useful C-clamp out of it. I use the C-clamps all the time in my home shop, for instance to hold my truing stand in place.

    As far as frame prep, I used a piece of sand paper and a sanding block to prep the head tube. On BB I use a wired brush on the threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebikedoctor33
    i dont know why you would need to ream it anyway. every modent bike comes with a faces headtube nowadays. but it should be like 30 or 40 at most
    hahaha. i hope you are kidding. the banshee scirocco i purchased last year was more than 1.5 mm out of parallel. i have run across plenty of modent (sic) frames that were in dire need of a good facing.
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    For more than just a pretty picture (thanks coma13), check out this post:

    <a href="https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=130069"><font color="blue" size="4">(link) <b>Homemade Headset Tools</b></font></a>

    The key to headset pressing happiness is finding a UNF threaded bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Good thing SMT knows how to use this site.
    yep......................search and you will find what others post
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    Quote Originally Posted by coma13
    For the record, the bolt/washers headset cup thing wasn't SMT's idea, he's just a GIF thief! A poster from this site who goes by SpeedhubNate or something of that sort made that GIF.
    actually I built my bike 2 1/2 years ago doing that....but yes it is not my gif......I suck doing animated gif's
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    actually I built my bike 2 1/2 years ago doing that....but yes it is not my gif......I suck doing animated gif's
    Done deal. I don't admire SMT anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panthro
    Done deal. I don't admire SMT anymore.

    you would have never seen it if I didn't post it...............geee.....I guess I won't help by posting stuff like that anymore
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    Thats ok SMT it takes alot of beer to find that kind of info, some people just cant get it.

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    Just used the UNF bolt method as well...

    Worked great...

    Also you gotta love buying OEM frames, alread chased and faced and much cheaper!

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    Hmmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    LBS is best but here is an idea

    <img src="https://www.booboodog.net/images/headset-press.gif">
    I just went to the Home Depot but couldn't find the 1/2" or 3/8" UNC threaded bolt. They only had coarse threaded bolts (10 to 13 threads per inch). Any ideas on where I can get the fine threaded bolts?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KONA_in_SB
    Another option along the line of the bolt and washer method for installing headsets is to use a large C-clamp (10 inch C-clamp will be bigg enough for most frames) and a few pieces of plywood. It works great plus you get a useful C-clamp out of it. I use the C-clamps all the time in my home shop, for instance to hold my truing stand in place.

    As far as frame prep, I used a piece of sand paper and a sanding block to prep the head tube. On BB I use a wired brush on the threads.
    The purpose of facing is to ensure the faces of the BB (and headtube) are flat and paralell - sanding/filing the frame is not a substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    actually I built my bike 2 1/2 years ago doing that....but yes it is not my gif......I suck doing animated gif's
    Sorry for stealing your thunder bobalu!!! If it makes you feel any better. I didn't even know what downhill mountain biking was 2 and 1/2 years ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho
    I just went to the Home Depot but couldn't find the 1/2" or 3/8" UNC threaded bolt. ... Any ideas on where I can get the fine threaded bolts?
    Try OSH. My HD doesn't CARRY UNF, either!
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    Unfortunately...

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    Try OSH. My HD doesn't CARRY UNF, either!
    No OSH here in Boise, ID. I'll try to check out Lowes to see if they have a better selection than HD...

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