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    FS street/urban bikes? any out there?

    so, i'm about to go out for a night of urban riding on my friends bmx bike he lent me and i'm looking at ideas for a new bike. i've got a job lined up that is 90% a sure thing so i'll actually be able to buy something, but i wanna build it up. not buy a complete and i've been looking at hardtails and have considered almost every option and almost bought a mtn cycle rumble and built it up, but i really want a FS street bike.

    does anyone know of a bike that would work for urban/street riding, some DJ, and some rough xc with big dh sections.

    i've considered a Kona Howler, but that seems too 4x orinted. would it work for my needs? i will be doing things people hate like drops to flats, but not just those. i'll be doing natural terrain, stair gaps, just about anything the street can throw at you. there is another catch too....

    i would be considering 24" wheels. a set of HALO SAS wheels. with this combo i fear the bb will be wayy to low on a howler. if i could find a Brodie Nemesis for a really good deal used i'd buy it. any ideas? i'd be considering a pike or a reduced nemesis z1. AND i might go single speed. just ideas. i won't buy something until i'm 110% sold on it which is why i haven't gotten a new bike after looking for about 5 months.

    please share ideas and i don't wanna hear something about "don't go FS" i have a hardtail. i wanna mix it up and want something that can handle rough dirtjumps and i can take to the souther part of indiana and bomb down some rocky hills, but it would mainly be my street/jump ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezrg520kid
    so, i'm about to go out for a night of urban riding on my friends bmx bike he lent me and i'm looking at ideas for a new bike. i've got a job lined up that is 90% a sure thing so i'll actually be able to buy something, but i wanna build it up. not buy a complete and i've been looking at hardtails and have considered almost every option and almost bought a mtn cycle rumble and built it up, but i really want a FS street bike.

    does anyone know of a bike that would work for urban/street riding, some DJ, and some rough xc with big dh sections.

    i've considered a Kona Howler, but that seems too 4x orinted. would it work for my needs? i will be doing things people hate like drops to flats, but not just those. i'll be doing natural terrain, stair gaps, just about anything the street can throw at you. there is another catch too....

    i would be considering 24" wheels. a set of HALO SAS wheels. with this combo i fear the bb will be wayy to low on a howler. if i could find a Brodie Nemesis for a really good deal used i'd buy it. any ideas? i'd be considering a pike or a reduced nemesis z1. AND i might go single speed. just ideas. i won't buy something until i'm 110% sold on it which is why i haven't gotten a new bike after looking for about 5 months.

    please share ideas and i don't wanna hear something about "don't go FS" i have a hardtail. i wanna mix it up and want something that can handle rough dirtjumps and i can take to the souther part of indiana and bomb down some rocky hills, but it would mainly be my street/jump ride.

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    Might be a bad sugestion so someone correct me if I'm way off. But I bet a Kona Cowan FS would be fine for street. I'm assuming you've alreald looked at it if you were concidering a Howler. Also, you could just take a freeride rig and make it super light with what ever parts you can, air shock, 66SL, tubeless, single speed with a 6in rear break. Maybe like a Banshee Chaperell would be a good frame to build on. Just some ideas.
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    haha dh and street dont mix usually ur average street machine is like a 24in wheeled hardtail which isnt a good idea for dh

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    kona cowan DS, enduro sx....most short travel 4x frames would be the best bet. i say cowan....

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    how would a howler hold up? do you know anywhere that i could find a used cowan ds?

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    If you want a street bike get a hardtail. I can't imagine riding my f/s bike in the street. If you want to run 24s ... I know someone with a very nice Union Molly for sale. PM for details.


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    http://www.brooklynmachineworks.com/bikes_FQ.htm

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    or Cowan DS, better than howler for dj/street

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    Why not buy a cheap ass BMX bike and an AM/FR bike. A used DJ bike can be really cheap too. Trying to put street, DJ, DH and XC into one bike is just gonna get you stuck with something thats not good at any of it. I mean as far as anything is concerned, if you must have just one bike, a Burly HT with a Z1 or the new RockShox Lyrik. If you must go FS, the right answer will be a Slopestyle oriented bike, Transition Bottlerocket comes to mind. But honestly, if you want to do a lot of urban, you really want a hardtail.

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    Mt Cycle rumble- I use mine for urban, dj, and xc. Running a 6" firefly on it... The rigid rear end is, uh, a handful on fast DH but smoother jumps, drops, etc are a breeze.

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    04' Turner Rail... I've got one, flows nicely, pretty short chainstays, manuals and jumps smooth. extremely versatile. (not to mention you can find them cheap on ebay every once in awhile, which is rare to say for a Turner.

    but, I've wondered for awhile what that Cowan would be like built up SS, since it has the pivot around the bb. That would probably be a pretty frickin' sweet ride with a short fork on it. not the most versatile, but not many street/dj rigs are.


    what is your price range? are you 100% set on 24's? that rules out quite a few fs frames I think. that Commencal 4X frame looks rocksteady too, but i've never ridden or even seen one in person, so can't say much there...
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    Cowan FS with a Pike seems like the way to go dude.



    That's what I'm gonna go for if I don't get the Howler.

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    Norco XXXX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummings
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    or Cowan DS, better than howler for dj/street
    Yes, this is what you are looking for. They are like $3,500 for the frame and cranks though.

    This frame, the Kona Cowan DS and others with the BB pivot can be set up singlespeed and work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaky69
    Norco XXXX?
    Might be wrong but, it doesn't look quite tough enough for street

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    i'm not sure of my budget yet. i'm just looking at used frame options so far. don't know how much i'd wanna spend on this yet. i'm looking into some turner rails, but if i could find a used cowan ds i'd get it. commencal frames are too much $$ and i can't find em anywhere.

    not set on 24's either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeSATORI
    04' Turner Rail... I've got one, flows nicely, pretty short chainstays, manuals and jumps smooth. extremely versatile. (not to mention you can find them cheap on ebay every once in awhile, which is rare to say for a Turner.

    but, I've wondered for awhile what that Cowan would be like built up SS, since it has the pivot around the bb. That would probably be a pretty frickin' sweet ride with a short fork on it. not the most versatile, but not many street/dj rigs are.


    what is your price range? are you 100% set on 24's? that rules out quite a few fs frames I think. that Commencal 4X frame looks rocksteady too, but i've never ridden or even seen one in person, so can't say much there...
    you have any pics of your turner rail?

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    Stinky 2-4 looks nice...

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    i thought the stinky 2-4 was just designed for smaller people?

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    there was a Cowan DS on ridemonkey for sale just recently,, might still be there.

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    the le dude 2 from 24 cycles. i've never ridden one, but i've only heard good things about them. if it comes from 24 cycles it would definitely be street worthy.

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    I ran her for urban before I stripped her down for the hardtail.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! I Know The Perfect Bike!!!!

    The perfect bike is a mountain cycle slopestyle. It likes to go fast has like 5 inches rear wheel travel and is burly. Basically indestructable. Expensive, but if you can build a rumble up this wouldnt be much different.

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    I thought Mountain Cycle went belly up just recently? or was bought out... I remember seeing that orange proto "slopestyle"... before it was named. looked really solid and simple, I liked the bb area.... but I wouldn't trade my Rail for one.
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    i love that bike!! i'm very intrested and i can find coiler frames for alot cheaper and alot easier then the cowan ds. it would probably handle hard landings better then a 4x/dj frame like the cowan ds also. are those the 24"s and all the other parts that are on your new sexy addict frame? wow, that is basically what i want only with a different frame and a bit more suspension. but so far i'm set on going with SAS wheels and a pike. how'd she ride? did it like drops, urban jumps, stair gaps, and rough dirtjumps? even though you made the switch from that to a hardtail. if you had to stick with FS would you have taken the travel of the coiler or would you have liked the smaller cowan frame/travel? thanks alot man! oh one final question. if you don't mind me asking how much did that build cost you to build a coiler like that? thanks bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyride94
    The perfect bike is a mountain cycle slopestyle. It likes to go fast has like 5 inches rear wheel travel and is burly. Basically indestructable. Expensive, but if you can build a rumble up this wouldnt be much different.
    i'd love to have one of those frames, but i can't afford that. i had found everything for the rumble that would have left me with a new white frame, halo sas 24's in white, a used 05 pike, an ss kit, saint cranks, deity bars, stem, avid bb7 8", and all that good stuff for about 1100 to have a sick final build.

    i don't think i could pull that off with the slopestyle frame. if i could even find the frame for a dec. price i'd go lower components, but i couldn't go much lower besides getting cheaper bars, stem, cranks, and that is about it. already plan on running mechanical disc just because they work great and i don't need to stop THAT badly for a set of hydrulics.

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    Most of those parts went over to my addict. The Coiler frame is much beefier than the Cowan/Howler. I had needle bearings at each of the pivots to make it even stiffer. The Coiler was my do-everything bike. It DHed nicely, but was cool for the urban scene. I had a medium, I probably would've been happier with a small for urban. I'm about 5'8".

    As for build cost... I paid below shop cost for almost all of my parts. And I got some of them for free. I know I was under a grand for that, probably around 900. It's probably worth something close to 3 times that.

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    the MC slopestyle bike is available from what ive heard.. very limited number of frames though and about $1200 with shock..

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    i'll have to pass on the MC.

    i'm thinking coiler is the way unless i get a great deal on a cowan ds and i can find some parts deals.

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