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    which frame is better?

    two hand made in the USA frames one is rotec rl9 the other is Canfield Brothers f1
    I'm not a racer but i ride fast and big kind of doing evrything all around...
    which one to buy and why
    lots of thanks

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    I'm pretty sure the Canfield is made overseas. I just know because my bro bought one and they told him it's on the boat.

    Rockin bike btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loolilon
    two hand made in the USA frames one is rotec rl9 the other is Canfield Brothers f1
    I'm not a racer but i ride fast and big kind of doing evrything all around...
    which one to buy and why
    lots of thanks

    another hand made........Intense

    M-3 or M-6 no question a better bike for going fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    another hand made........Intense

    M-3 or M-6 no question a better bike for going fast
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    All good suggestions. What kind of "ass-orderant" would you recommend?

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    thanks for the info but still is he happy with the frame in terms of wight

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    another hand made........Intense

    M-3 or M-6 no question a better bike for going fast
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    no kidding. look into a sinister r9 as well. hand made in the USA.

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    You do understand that when going for a "made in the USA" handbuilt frame you are usually paying $500-1,000 more to get that "made in the USA" sticker when a taiwan made frame is typically just as good as far as quality goes... often better. Just My two cents.


    BTW I'd go with the Sinister if I had to pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loolilon
    thanks for the info but still is he happy with the frame in terms of wight
    mines a solid under 40 pounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by loolilon
    thanks for the info but still is he happy with the frame in terms of wight
    He loves it. But it's like 44-46. He has a bunch of heavy stuff on it. You can get it lower then that with a solid build.
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    Rotec!! They are such a sick company, way cool guys on their team too. Canfield's are made over the pond, still way sick though. I got to ride Lance Canfield's Lucky during Crankworx CO and it was a super super sweet bike. I have never ridden a Rotec before, but from their team and my watching, they look amazing
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    I don't know how about the other 2 but sinister isn't the best bike if your going to turn.
    Isn't turner build in the us? Imho much safer choice and if you don't like it some people tuned their frames to be more dh race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norbar
    I don't know how about the other 2 but sinister isn't the best bike if your going to turn.
    are you loco? The R9 is the best cornering bike I've owned. It's long though, if that's what you were refering to, but that only matters on slow techy stuff like North Shore type riding. I've yet to come across a switch back that made me wish I owned a shorter bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnaR9
    are you loco? The R9 is the best cornering bike I've owned. It's long though, if that's what you were refering to, but that only matters on slow techy stuff like North Shore type riding. I've yet to come across a switch back that made me wish I owned a shorter bike.
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    The Rotec's look sick in pictures for sure, but I haven't seen one in person. Canfields are sick, but before this forum, I thought they we're made here. Made in the USA Dh frame that rules? I had a Ventana El Cuervo. Turns great, solid, plush, and top notch manufacturing.

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    is there anyone who rode on the f1 forget the hand made in the usa how is the bike?speed? corning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnaR9
    are you loco? The R9 is the best cornering bike I've owned. It's long though, if that's what you were refering to, but that only matters on slow techy stuff like North Shore type riding. I've yet to come across a switch back that made me wish I owned a shorter bike.
    Some people live in places where turns in dh are actualy turns not just a minor inconsistence on a straight.

    I've been riding similar geo bike but it was just a pain in the ass on techy dh trails.

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    just give it up, become a sam hill fanboy, jump on the bandwagon, and buy a sunday!

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    I own an 05 formula 1, love it. The 06 is pretty similar but a more progressive rate so it is softer off the top of the travel and ramps up. I personally prefer the linear rear end. Both bikes fly. The rearward travel makes it feel and so fast and controlled. It takes control to a new level. My buddy rode mine and said they should have named the frame 'The Erasor' as it literally erases the hits the front of the bike feels in the rear. I would say handling is close second to the rear end performance. You are able to put more weight on the front as the rear will not hang up on obstacles. This bike really is a lot of fun that will let you dance around or plow through rocks with glee, depending on your style.

    What you should do though is wait until their new stuff comes out. Watch Interbike as they have a new evolution of the F1 that is so very good. I literally love my F1 but the new one is a big improvement. The only reason that bike won't fly off the shelves is going to be because they don't make enough or people don't know about it. Watch for it.

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    'nother vote for the turner

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    Quote Originally Posted by aenema
    I own an 05 formula 1, love it. The 06 is pretty similar but a more progressive rate so it is softer off the top of the travel and ramps up. I personally prefer the linear rear end. Both bikes fly. The rearward travel makes it feel and so fast and controlled. It takes control to a new level. My buddy rode mine and said they should have named the frame 'The Erasor' as it literally erases the hits the front of the bike feels in the rear. I would say handling is close second to the rear end performance. You are able to put more weight on the front as the rear will not hang up on obstacles. This bike really is a lot of fun that will let you dance around or plow through rocks with glee, depending on your style.

    What you should do though is wait until their new stuff comes out. Watch Interbike as they have a new evolution of the F1 that is so very good. I literally love my F1 but the new one is a big improvement. The only reason that bike won't fly off the shelves is going to be because they don't make enough or people don't know about it. Watch for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norbar
    Some people live in places where turns in dh are actualy turns not just a minor inconsistence on a straight.

    I've been riding similar geo bike but it was just a pain in the ass on techy dh trails.
    Quote Originally Posted by GnaR9
    I've yet to come across a switch back that made me wish I owned a shorter bike.
    Our trails have their fair share of tight corners, kinda.
    Actually on the really tight stuff I noticed I sometimes have to pedal out of the corner hard enough I get the front end off the ground and swing it around the get going the right direction, but it doesn't feel like it's slowing me down...
    Not trying to argue w/ you, but just my experience so far has been positive. Coma 13 brought up a good point about the R9 last time we rode actually. The bikes made on the northern east coast where, and from what I understand, the trails are really rocky and tech, w/ lots of tight turns. Weird for such a long frame. But the R9 is one of the most popular race rigs over there apparently.

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    but im a fan of romo... is there someone who rode the f1?
    or shell i buy the glory and thats it

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    If I won the lottery I would get a sinister r9.

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    Man, I currently ride an '06 F1 also and am more than happy with it. Got it late last season and really didn't get to mess with it too much before the snow started flying but this year I've been on it almost every single weekend. It has been reliable, fast and has allowed my riding skills to progress x10 over what I was previously on. I'm an east coast junkie and this bike regularly sees Snowshoe, Diablo, Wisp and Denton which means a good mix of high speed, balls to the wall runs mixed in with large amounts of slower speed rock bashing and manmade stunts. Lots of folks think the F1 is a pure freeride bike cause they saw Lance rocking one in the Rampage but it was designed for and truly excels at pure fast, DH riding as the rearward travel path and linkage design pedals extremely well and allows you to float through rough sections. “The eraser” huh? That would describe it good. Santa Cruz V-10’s also have a very similar feel. I’ve never been on an Intense but if the VPP design is similar to a V-10, it would also be a great choice definitely on par with a Canfield and the Cruz if you're shopping VPP bikes. I really think you'd be happy on any of the bikes listed in this thread. None of them are dogs and all are gonna get you riding way fast. I'm definitely a fan of the VPP and parralel link bikes now but there's something to be said of all the designs. I still own two single pivots and love 'em. Bust out your Visa and roll with it. FWIW, the Canfield is made by Pacific Cycles in Taiwan and the build quality is superb.
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    I have ridden f1

    every iteration and recommend you wait till after interbike to check out their newest iteration. It will blow minds with its goodness.

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    A teaser for ya!

    16.25" Chainstay, 7.75" travel with 2.5" rearward travel (feels like 10"+ and is nimble like a 7.75" bike) More rearward than the older F1's and only 10 lbs, frame and shock.
    Welcome to sharp turning rearward travel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    A teaser for ya!

    16.25" Chainstay, 7.75" travel with 2.5" rearward travel (feels like 10"+ and is nimble like a 7.75" bike) More rearward than the older F1's and only 10 lbs, frame and shock.
    Welcome to sharp turning rearward travel!

    Lance, that thing looks killer!! Can I renew the lease on my '06 F1 with the new model?
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    glad you piped in Flymybike

    I was wondering how much info to give out. This bike rides so well and it also looks cool as hell. Maybe we can get Lance to post some more pics if we all ask nicely

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    any of the rides the guys have mentioned will kill... personally i'd lean towards the canfield or the rotec... I got to pedal around the rotec in seattle just befoe its release and i'll tel you .. its cool.. i can imagine that the thing corners incredibly well.. w. its low CoG.. I've always liked the Canfields and last year at interbike i finally got to see them in person... I was definitely blown away. Either one is going to kill and you'll be happy with both. Just go w/ your gut and pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by aenema
    I was wondering how much info to give out. This bike rides so well and it also looks cool as hell. Maybe we can get Lance to post some more pics if we all ask nicely
    Pleeeeeasse?

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    chumba f5...
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    Roll a 2007 Turner DHR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Cliffy
    Pleeeeeasse?
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    please,please,please

    im going to have to start saving
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