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    Fox 2012 Sneak peak, Kashima everywhere, 34mm series, 1 piece Ti crown...

    A few pictures i found on Rotorburn, no official word yet, just a few pictures and small descriptions. Ill let the pics do the talking.

    EDIT: Posted on sicklines
    https://www.sicklines.com/2011/04/18...and-evolution/

    Highlights:

    - Kashima has found its way onto the Float, DHX Air and RC4 shocks
    - New 34mm series for the 29'er crowd
    - New Top end Float fork will feature a one piece investment cast Titanium Steerer and crown (Read VERY expensive...
    - Fox now using SKF seals on their forks

    New one piece investment cast Crown/Steer on the high end 26inch 32 series, reportedly around 2.9 lbs uncut



    Kashima coat on all the rear shocks, also some update to the RP23 propedal, flick the switch towards the air valve, shock is in a state of near lock out, then flicking it back you have 3 levels of propedal






    New 29'er only 34 series, upto 140mm travel



    New SKF seals used throughout the lineup (SKF on the left, old version on the right...)

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    too bad 34mm isnt available to 26ers. i think it would be a nice compromise for someone like me who wants longer travel but doesnt need the heft of a 36.

    funny how the new shocks bear a very similar resemblence to the shocks suntour has been putting out.

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    What a travesty.

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    Seen that Kashima coating come off on certain forks. Not a fan.
    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    Seen that Kashima coating come off on certain forks. Not a fan.

    Interesting...especially since its impregnated within the metal and not coated on it which means that you would have also seen the stanchion disintegrating . . .

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    So those are the latest "not-really-a-true-oil-seal-with-a-snap-ring", sweet!
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    sweet shocks. me want.

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    Oh yeah !!! Kashima coating iz th *****e!!! wonder can we get some Kashima coated condemz....???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    Seen that Kashima coating come off on certain forks. Not a fan.

    Hmmmm....my 180 Talas has been grindin against my Dakine pick-up pad for awhile now w/o even a blemish....
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    I sure wish I would have had some of that thar Kishima coating on my knee and shin this past Sunday! LOL

    @manw/one hand....nice pic!
    any time spent riding a bicycle is re-cycled goodness....

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    Quote Originally Posted by man w/ one hand
    Hmmmm....my 180 Talas has been grindin against my Dakine pick-up pad for awhile now w/o even a blemish....
    that might say more about your dakine pad than the kashima. i have kashima but i haven't ridden it enough to judge.

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    So sick looking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by man w/ one hand
    Hmmmm....my 180 Talas has been grindin against my Dakine pick-up pad for awhile now w/o even a blemish....


    All I'm saying is my buddy sent his fork back due to some stanchion issues, and it was the Kashima coating that was rubbing right off the stanchion.

    Don't roll your eyes at me, son.







    Meh.

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    I also have heard and seen cases where the Kashima has flaked off, not only on MTB forks, but in the Moto industry aswell

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    Anybody with photo evidence of the damage to the Kashima coat or flaking? Its not that I dont believe you guys, I am just curious to see this. Is it like the black coating on the manitou travis when it wears off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    All I'm saying is my buddy sent his fork back due to some stanchion issues, and it was the Kashima coating that was rubbing right off the stanchion.

    Don't roll your eyes at me, son.







    sir, i say sir, i doubt your credibility, sir. only people who lie and have something to hide wear fake moustaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    sir, i say sir, i doubt your credibility, sir. only people who lie and have something to hide wear fake moustaches.

    that's his disguise when he is banging your girl
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    I've seen it on the Kowa fork (peeling or flaking)...will try to get a pic of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    that's his disguise when he is banging your girl
    he can have her. she limits me to 2 bikes.

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    https://www.railmaster.net/kashima.jpg


    flake?? not sure.. bike/fork sold now.. but it was like that for a while with no problems..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    All I'm saying is my buddy sent his fork back due to some stanchion issues, and it was the Kashima coating that was rubbing right off the stanchion.

    Don't roll your eyes at me, son.








    Can you describe how it looks? Is it a small patch of little white specs where you can see through the kash??
    video=youtube;][/video]...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    All I'm saying is my buddy sent his fork back due to some stanchion issues, and it was the Kashima coating that was rubbing right off the stanchion.

    Don't roll your eyes at me, son.






    Kashima coating is a bit misleading nomanclature, it is actually impregnated into the metal, i believe. Dakine padz will rub th powder coating/anadozation off of lowers w/o batting an eye but it has yet to make a scratch on my stantionz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swaneedawg
    I sure wish I would have had some of that thar Kishima coating on my knee and shin this past Sunday! LOL

    @manw/one hand....nice pic!

    It would've help a bit I think, maybe try th knee & shin guardz you left at home next time. Killer ride though. You know I wonder if'n it would'a helped my thigh when it bounced off'n that rock layin in th creek bed.....probly not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerhillJDOG
    Can you describe how it looks? Is it a small patch of little white specs where you can see through the kash??
    Maybe I misspoke then, as the "coating" isn't really a coating and can't really rub off. It was simply worn down. Like some of the stanchions on my old Shermann forks back in the day if some sort of crud got stuck in the seals and started to ever-so-slightly wear off the coating on the outside of the fork.

    Sorry for any confusion there, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettym1k3
    Saturnine... my mustache is on the real. Don't deny that you like it.
    yeah, $70 for a moustache ride is a little much. i know the economy is **** and your worthless american greenback somehow creates inflation, but come on!

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    hair piece

    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf
    https://www.railmaster.net/kashima.jpg


    flake?? not sure.. bike/fork sold now.. but it was like that for a while with no problems..

    Must have missed this last night.. that's what mine looks like except 5-6 smaller ones close together. *Still rides fine though

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB5H...tailpage#t=18s
    Last edited by Deerhill; 04-23-2011 at 02:47 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    sir, i say sir, i doubt your credibility, sir. only people who lie and have something to hide wear fake moustaches.
    To his discredit, I also know the scumbag with the fork and can say without a doubt that he has probably put more miles on that thing than most anyone.
    The arsonist has oddly shaped feet!

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    Flaking off started about two months ago.. progressively worse to both sides.. Sent it out today to Fox.. I'll hear back soon...
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    ^That's 2012, too.
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    So how much did you pay for that fork? I would be pissed right about now. Hopefully Fox takes care of you.

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    I paid a Pretty penny and ya its a 2012.. needless to say a little t-'d off... but i'll wait and see what they say. On a side note it did not cause any leaking or performance issues..
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    That TI crown looks sexy as. Like the Kashima too, I just don't want to know what the price is gonna be
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    Quote Originally Posted by killrdanasurfer View Post
    I paid a Pretty penny and ya its a 2012.. needless to say a little t-'d off... but i'll wait and see what they say. On a side note it did not cause any leaking or performance issues..
    Any follow-up info.....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    too bad 34mm isnt available to 26ers. i think it would be a nice compromise for someone like me who wants longer travel but doesnt need the heft of a 36.

    funny how the new shocks bear a very similar resemblence to the shocks suntour has been putting out.
    to make it 34 they would have to use more metal to give it strength....it really doesn't matter for weight difference so the 36 is not an issue
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    I love Fox forks, and have used them for years now.... but that new fork is one of the UGLIEST I've ever seen in my entire life. I mean I know it's about function and not all about looks, but gosh... that thing looks disgusting.

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    I guess a fancy, up-charge coating is how fox has to deal with more complicated valving? Seems like snake oil to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge View Post
    I guess a fancy, up-charge coating is how fox has to deal with more complicated valving? Seems like snake oil to me.

    Mybe if they just used open oil bath designs.... it'd be a lot better.



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    That was my original thinking too. I did demo a nice Ibis Mojo HD with the kashima shock and I cant say I noticed any real substantial difference between it and my RP23 on my Yeti, but I wasn't really trying to notice a difference I guess. Just ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzilla View Post
    That was my original thinking too. I did demo a nice Ibis Mojo HD with the kashima shock and I cant say I noticed any real substantial difference between it and my RP23 on my Yeti, but I wasn't really trying to notice a difference I guess. Just ride!
    My point exactly. If I need a latest greatest coating to make my $1k fork feel smooth(er) than I'm going to start looking elsewhere. When a 55RC3 Ti can be picked up for less than half and is comparable in weight I'm seriously thinking of not having a Fox on my trail bike.

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