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    First backyard park

    Well I started riding a few months ago, and I really like the ladder drops and stuff, even though I havent done any. lol.

    My brother is pretty good at them (Robert aka RC_Compton on here) and he is usually the crazy one, so I decided I wanted to build some stuff with my friends to build up our skills. We looked at the property we had to work with (private, renting but the owner is super cool and I okayed everything with him) and decided on a few things we wanted to do. This included some drops, 3ft to 10ft, some jumps, and some downed trees to ride on.

    We started it today after work, and in about 3 hours we got this ladder built. It is 5ft from the drop to the ground, but the landing will take some of that height out. We used some old wood that we replaced on our deck, and the landing will be filled with dirt (the plywood is to hold the sides up). I need to get the landlord to bring his tractor over since the dirt is pretty hard.

    Here are the pictures. I know it's not huge, but the biggest drop I have done so far is like 2ft, lol. Let me know what you think! (good or bad)






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    nice and dont give up there!
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    pretty sweet but u'll def wanna go WAY bigger after u hit that lil bugga. but nice start for u to learn on. looks like a blast just gettin all creative and buildin those things tho.

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    That whole little course better be build up next time I come up there. I wish granny would let me build some drops and dirt jumps in the back yard. Im going to see if I can talk her into it tomorrow...

    Is moms land owner gunna let me you make dirt jumps?

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    He would probably be fine with it, but I wouldnt want to build them right there... There is a good piece to build them, but its a little farther out from the house. That is lower on my list, considering I probably won't do them much. We will build some smaller dirt jumps, but nothing like what you want .

    Oh and when are you coming out again?

    We are pretty much out of good wood from he decking material, and I don't really want to spend money on this, so I think I am going to go look for some pallets for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bountainmike
    pretty sweet but u'll def wanna go WAY bigger after u hit that lil bugga. but nice start for u to learn on. looks like a blast just gettin all creative and buildin those things tho.
    True dat. You could probably even use a bigger gap in between the drop and the tranny too...maybe a couple-three feet or so more.
    Jump it onto something off of something or over something.

    There's more to freeriding than dirt jumps.

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    Yeah, we were thinking of pushing it out a little further, but we didn't know. We haven't done any like this, so hopefully it will work out. I figured it might be better to have it closer at first so we don't case it (or not even make it to the landing ).

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    be carefull with pallets

    More durable pallets are often made from different types of hardwood that splits when you nail it when its dry.They usually put them together wet and then let it dry or pre-drill and screw them together. Try drilling before you nail or preferably screw things together if it's a hardwood pallet. The soft pine pallets are typically what you find thrown away and they can usually get nailed together ok but the wood is so soft and weak that it doesn't last long under the kind of loading free riding will subject it to. That being said you could triple stack the boards and probably be ok. Good luck and have fun

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    soon enough you will be gapping into the tranny from the upslope on the ladder
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerSloth
    Yeah, we were thinking of pushing it out a little further, but we didn't know. We haven't done any like this, so hopefully it will work out. I figured it might be better to have it closer at first so we don't case it (or not even make it to the landing ).
    Trust me. If you're going any faster than 'pedal kick drop' speed, you will easily clear the gap that's on it right now. You could start at a stand still on the ground right at the base of your up ramp and still manage to get enough speed to clear the current gap w/o pedal kicking.
    Let's say you had a long enough approach to get in 4-5 good pedal cranks before you rode up the drop, you'd probably have enough speed to clear the entire landing ramp.
    Believe me, once you get comfortable with the current setup (which won't be long), you guys will want to move that ramp out some more.

    More durable pallets are often made from different types of hardwood that splits when you nail it when its dry.They usually put them together wet and then let it dry or pre-drill and screw them together. Try drilling before you nail or preferably screw things together if it's a hardwood pallet. The soft pine pallets are typically what you find thrown away and they can usually get nailed together ok but the wood is so soft and weak that it doesn't last long under the kind of loading free riding will subject it to. That being said you could triple stack the boards and probably be ok. Good luck and have fun
    Unless it's for a temporary setup, I tend to steer clear of whole pallets. I keep thinking of a quote I saw on one of the IMBA pages, "Pallets were designed and built for static loads, not the dynamic loads that mtn. bikes would place on them.
    I've used pallets before for low, wide ladders, but they were gusseted, braced and strengthened with additional lumber.
    Use pallets at your own discretion.
    Jump it onto something off of something or over something.

    There's more to freeriding than dirt jumps.

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    Thanks for all of the advice guys. I was a little worried about the pallets, but I think I'll try them out and a smaller drop just to see how strong it is before building anything too big with them.

    I know I can get a 2"x4"x8' for around $2 which doesnt seem like much, but it would add up QUICK. lol. I'm a poor college student so I don't have huge funds.

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    did you get those shorts at costco? nice drop too...
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    If you find yourself getting "bored" with the drops you can always make the approach ladder really narrow. Even a 5 ft drop is hard when you only have a 6" wide board to ride on. It'll also use less wood which is less $$
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    I didn't buy the swim shorts, but my mom got them for me for a gift last year I think. I'm sure she got them at Costco though. lol. You got a pair too? haha

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    Nice Radio Flyer!

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    You should never nail into trees...
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    I don't care if it was 1 foot......it is great you have a passion and are building for your bliss.....keep building and keep the passion
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    UPDATE

    I haven't done a whole lot since last time. I kept waiting for the landlord to bring dirt, and he never did so I decided to just build a wood landing, which is probably a better idea anyway because I can more it farther out as we get better.

    I built this Monday:
    <img src=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/KillerSloth/noname.jpg>

    I also built a small jump off of a rock that lands down a hill, I dont have pictures of it though. It's nothing special.

    I am going to start on something new this week. What should I build?

    We havent hit the drop yet because I was waiting for my friend to come over but he cant make it until next week, so I may hit it this weekend. I'll be sure to take pictures (or video).

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    ive got an idea of what you could build, an inverted burn! lol dont know about space but there fun!
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    Free lumber

    Hey don't pay for the 2x lumber....go around to the Lowes/Home depots & they throw out alot of the runners from packs of lumber, and even the real warped stuff (which works fine cut down to length).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerSloth
    UPDATE

    I haven't done a whole lot since last time. I kept waiting for the landlord to bring dirt, and he never did so I decided to just build a wood landing, which is probably a better idea anyway because I can more it farther out as we get better.

    I built this Monday:
    <img src=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/KillerSloth/noname.jpg>

    I also built a small jump off of a rock that lands down a hill, I dont have pictures of it though. It's nothing special.

    I am going to start on something new this week. What should I build?

    We havent hit the drop yet because I was waiting for my friend to come over but he cant make it until next week, so I may hit it this weekend. I'll be sure to take pictures (or video).
    From what I can see, the wood landing looks a little feable. Is it complete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideRMB
    You should never nail into trees...
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmarkos
    From what I can see, the wood landing looks a little feable. Is it complete?
    It's really strong... I jumped on it (and I weigh 240 pounds) and it didn't move... I was thinking of adding an upright support in the middle of the triangle on the sides though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmaster1029
    Why not?
    Because it does harm to the tree? Its as simple as that. Nailing or screwing (haha ) disrupts the whole inside of the tree and changes how it grows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideRMB
    Because it does harm to the tree? Its as simple as that. Nailing or screwing (haha ) disrupts the whole inside of the tree and changes how it grows.

    So you should only nail to trees on private land that you have permission to nail to.

    I'm as green as the next guy but when I'm building on the land where I build (180 or so acres of closed down ski mtn) I'll nail to a tree. Hell, I chainsaw out a tree if I think its necessary...THAT disrupts the whole inside of the tree.


    Stunts look fun, you'll be making them bigger pretty damn quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archdukeferdinand
    So you should only nail to trees on private land that you have permission to nail to.

    I'm as green as the next guy but when I'm building on the land where I build (180 or so acres of closed down ski mtn) I'll nail to a tree. Hell, I chainsaw out a tree if I think its necessary...THAT disrupts the whole inside of the tree.


    Stunts look fun, you'll be making them bigger pretty damn quick.
    In defence of, how many quality trails at the Shore have stunts nailed into trees?
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    Great start! Im glad you are building stuff! My only recomendation is that your "up" ramp is fine on that drop, but the platform looks short. Extend those stringers so you can steady yourself and get the feel for speed. As you get better (and hit it faster) you can move the landing out. Looks good. Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideRMB
    Because it does harm to the tree? Its as simple as that. Nailing or screwing (haha ) disrupts the whole inside of the tree and changes how it grows.
    The guy who helped build some of the stunts at my friend Kenny's place, a guy who has been a carpenter/contractor for almost 30 years and who has been building stunts for several years as well, would beg to differ with you. I'm going to believe him.
    As long as you don't rip the bark clean off the tree, you should be fine.
    As long as you aren't drilling 1000s of nails into one single tree, you are fine.

    Oh and...
    http://tree-tech.com/eve/forums/a/tp...1/m/1971081741
    They talk about embedded nails left in the tree can damage saws. That's why Kenny and I have exclusively used screws.
    Jump it onto something off of something or over something.

    There's more to freeriding than dirt jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideRMB
    In defence of, how many quality trails at the Shore have stunts nailed into trees?
    Don't know as I've never been there, I'd love to go sometime. I'd hope none are nailed to trees.


    As I said, fastening to trees has a time and place. Public land is definitely NOT that place. Give the kid a break, he's building in his backyard and asked permission of the property owner (something I never did when I was renting, I always just built first and answered questions later).
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    Finally got around to working on this again. My landlord had to bring is tractor over to dig up our septic pipes and while he was over here he made a giant pile of dirt. I left it at about the height he had it at but moved a bunch to make it a smooth landing. Did it by myself and was pretty damn sore the next day. It's only like a 1' drop right now, but I want my friend to hit it a few times before I make it bigger (he hasn't done any drops).

    I also built a jump, but havent gotten a picture of it yet. It worked pretty well but I hurt my ankle a bit on the landing. I also am building a ladder onto a boulder that I can roll down (really steep backside) or drop off the end.

    I also built a litle 2x4 skinny (8' long).

    I'll try to get some more pictures when I get the roller/drop done (hopefully this weekend)

    Here are a couple videos of the drop: (taken with a phone so low quality)

    <embed id="VideoPlayback" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=8446221839275313557&hl=en&f s=true" style="width:400px;height:326px" allowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> </embed>

    <embed id="VideoPlayback" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-1786796214226282039&hl=en&fs=true" style="width:400px;height:326px" allowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> </embed>

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    Pretty cool man. I can definitely see you being able to extend the landing and still make it fine with a little more speed.

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    build a dirt landing and a wood lip so you can in crease the gap
    the jump instead of the landing because if you case it it might feel better to you and the bike to hit dirt

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    The landing is dirt now. I started with wood, but never actually hit it. The video shows the dirt landing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmaster1029
    Pretty cool man. I can definitely see you being able to extend the landing and still make it fine with a little more speed.
    fa sho

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    Thats a great first drop man.. It is a little small but you gotta start somewhere... We all did it, keep it up and you'll be doing what these guys say and gapping from the up ramp down the tranny...

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    I did some work yesterday so I figured I would post it up.


    New table I built, I haven't hit it yet. Should be doing that tomorrow or Thursday.
    It's hard to see the lip, but its on the left, landing on the right.
    <img src=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/KillerSloth/photo1-1.jpg>

    Here is another picture from standing on my drop:
    <img src=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/KillerSloth/photo2-1.jpg>

    I made the drop bigger, and there is a jump that goes over the landing (left to right):
    <img src=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/KillerSloth/photo3-1.jpg>

    Another picture:
    <img src=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/KillerSloth/photo4-1.jpg>

    I did the jump over the landing before I made it into a double (and bigger) and I tried the drop last night which didnt end so well lol. First try almost went over the bars, second try my front tire washed out and I went over. I need to work on the front tire dropping off the top.

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